It's a long way from Kenya to Washington, otherwise I'd be glad to help.  I am

sure there are some members of the group in the Pacific Northwest.  Any takers?



Cheers,



Matthew



--- In bolger@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

>

> Hello All.

> There is a fair bit, I think, I will need help with towards pulling together

all sorts of odds and ends to consolidate the knowledge-base on matters

'Bolger'.

>

> These 'Missions' will emerge in random occurrence as I run up against a

challenge, someone (or -two) amongst you might have a (reasonably ?) handy way

of resolving for me.  This one seems like a fine excuse to 'invest' a long day

in a road-trip - unless you are already there...

>

> Mission #1:

> - Design #410 "Phouma" (Steel Oceanographic Research Motorsailing Vessel)

96'6/125' as stretched during construction x 16'x 3'6".

>

> - Task: There are no decent photos of her afloat in the files.  It would be

great to get a bunch of high-res. ones from all angles.

>

> - Location: Last seen in Eureka, CA, north of the City, via Route 255, in the

marina on the south-side of Woodley Island. According to GOOGLE EARTH she is on

the outside of the western-most 300+ feet long floating pier. GOOGLE EARTH

offers a few shots of her from land and from water.

>

> - Challenge:

> 1. While she seems to still be securely tucked away alongside a pier in the

shadow of a sizable barrier-island along the Pacific, topography suggests that

getting her full profile (unfortunately without spars beyond her two masts)

would require a watercraft as a photo-platform or a very long lens w/ tripod

located to her South-West on the mainland (City).

> 2. As so often in matters photographic, timing matters.  She is oriented in a

north-south position, with bow facing south.

> 3. This being the Pacific coastline with just a low barrier-island to the west

or of course from afloat, the best lighting I would assume would be between

early afternoon all the way up to sunset.

> 4. Weather might be a challenge, as nearby a test-facility pioneered

instrument landing due to frequent and 'reliably' heavy fog.

> 5. No 'per diem' available.  Just a fine excuse to hit Highway 101 to go and

see #410...

>

> - Her owner lives in Eureka.  Last year I talked with him on friendly terms. 

Depending upon his perspective, he might collaborate in this 'Mission' perhaps

with on-deck access or even perhaps below.

> It could be that eventually she would be available for a new and unusual

mission in light of her very unorthodox proportions and layout.

> But first the visuals 'for the record' with photographer duly referenced in

photo-credits later.

>

>

> So there it is.  Cue the theme...

> "Should you accept this mission...yadayadah...will self-destruct in 10 seconds

!"

>

> Susanne Altenburger, PB&F

>

----- Original Message -----

From: BruceHallman

To: bolger@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 1:00 PM

Subject: Re: [bolger] Mission #1 in support of PB&F

 

There are a number of photo's of Phouma on the web.  (A new design to me!)  I grabbed them and put them here:

http://hallman.org/bolger/410.jpg

http://hallman.org/bolger/410a.jpg

http://hallman.org/bolger/410b.jpg

http://hallman.org/bolger/410c.jpg

http://hallman.org/bolger/410d.jpg

http://hallman.org/bolger/410e.jpg

http://hallman.org/bolger/410f.jpg

http://hallman.org/bolger/410g.jpg

On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:28 PM, <philbolger@...> wrote:

Woodley Island

----- Original Message -----

From: BruceHallman

To: bolger@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 1:25 PM

Subject: Re: [bolger] Mission #1 in support of PB&F

 

I would love to find a slot in my tight schedule to do this!  Judging from the photos online all being from a public beach opposite side of the channel, the best thing would be to bring a cartop rowboat to get good photo angles.

On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 10:20 AM, <philbolger@...> wrote:

 

Thank you Bruce.

    These images do help some.
But I'd state there continues to be a need to see Mission #1 engaged in by someone closer to Eureka, CA than I can be.  From San Francisco for instance, I believe it would be a good day round-trip on the Redwoods Highway (Route 101)...

Thanks for this effort to find images for her.

Susanne Altenburger, PB&F

  

----- Original Message -----

From: BruceHallman

To: bolger@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 1:00 PM

Subject: Re: [bolger] Mission #1 in support of PB&F

 

There are a number of photo's of Phouma on the web.  (A new design to me!)  I grabbed them and put them here:

http://hallman.org/bolger/410.jpg

http://hallman.org/bolger/410a.jpg

http://hallman.org/bolger/410b.jpg

http://hallman.org/bolger/410c.jpg

http://hallman.org/bolger/410d.jpg

http://hallman.org/bolger/410e.jpg

http://hallman.org/bolger/410f.jpg

http://hallman.org/bolger/410g.jpg

On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:28 PM, <philbolger@...> wrote:

Woodley Island

----- Original Message -----

From: philbolger@...

To: bolger@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 1:35 PM

Subject: Re: [bolger] Mission #1 in support of PB&F

 

Bruce, cue the theme from MI...
Gotta a burn a disc for endless loop until you throw it out the window at mile marker 13 or so...

I guess making the weather match your schedule would be one challenge.  I'd check with the marina office to make sure she'll be there...

Keep us posted.

Susanne Altenburger, PB&F  

----- Original Message -----

From: BruceHallman

To: bolger@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 1:25 PM

Subject: Re: [bolger] Mission #1 in support of PB&F

 

I would love to find a slot in my tight schedule to do this!  Judging from the photos online all being from a public beach opposite side of the channel, the best thing would be to bring a cartop rowboat to get good photo angles.

On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 10:20 AM, <philbolger@...> wrote:

 

Thank you Bruce.

    These images do help some.
But I'd state there continues to be a need to see Mission #1 engaged in by someone closer to Eureka, CA than I can be.  From San Francisco for instance, I believe it would be a good day round-trip on the Redwoods Highway (Route 101)...

Thanks for this effort to find images for her.

Susanne Altenburger, PB&F

  

----- Original Message -----

From: BruceHallman

To: bolger@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 1:00 PM

Subject: Re: [bolger] Mission #1 in support of PB&F

 

There are a number of photo's of Phouma on the web.  (A new design to me!)  I grabbed them and put them here:

http://hallman.org/bolger/410.jpg

http://hallman.org/bolger/410a.jpg

http://hallman.org/bolger/410b.jpg

http://hallman.org/bolger/410c.jpg

http://hallman.org/bolger/410d.jpg

http://hallman.org/bolger/410e.jpg

http://hallman.org/bolger/410f.jpg

http://hallman.org/bolger/410g.jpg

On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:28 PM, <philbolger@...> wrote:

Woodley Island

Bruce



I am down in Napa Valley Marina for the winter. Here's why



http://www.hjboats.com/columbia38/index.html



Maybe I could borrow one of your boats, I have my long bed chevy with me. It has

a

rack and a camper shell that I am using for tool hauling.



500 mile round trip from here. It would be a bit before I could get to it---if

at all.



HJ







  I would love to find a slot in my tight schedule to do this!  Judging from

> the photos online all being from a public beach opposite side of the

> channel, the best thing would be to bring a cartop rowboat to get good

> photo angles.

>

> On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 10:20 AM, <philbolger@...> wrote:

>

>> **

>>

>>

>> **

>> Thank you Bruce.

>>     These images do help some.

>> But I'd state there continues to be a need to see Mission #1 engaged in by

>> someone closer to Eureka, CA than I can be.  From San Francisco for

>> instance, I believe it would be a good day round-trip on the Redwoods

>> Highway (Route 101)...

>>

>> Thanks for this effort to find images for her.

>>

>> Susanne Altenburger, PB&F

>>

>>

>>

>> ----- Original Message -----

>> *From:* BruceHallman <hallman@...>

>> *To:* bolger@yahoogroups.com

>> *Sent:* Monday, January 21, 2013 1:00 PM

>> *Subject:* Re: [bolger] Mission #1 in support of PB&F

>>

>>

>>

>> There are a number of photo's of Phouma on the web.  (A new design to me!)

>>  I grabbed them and put them here:

>>

>> http://hallman.org/bolger/410.jpg

>> http://hallman.org/bolger/410a.jpg

>> http://hallman.org/bolger/410b.jpg

>> http://hallman.org/bolger/410c.jpg

>> http://hallman.org/bolger/410d.jpg

>> http://hallman.org/bolger/410e.jpg

>> http://hallman.org/bolger/410f.jpg

>> http://hallman.org/bolger/410g.jpg

>>

>>

>>

>> On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:28 PM, <philbolger@...> wrote:

>>

>>> Woodley Island

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>

----- Original Message -----

From: BruceHallman

To: bolger@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 4:30 PM

Subject: Re: [bolger] Mission #1 in support of PB&F

 

Asking a far out question: Does Phouma have leeboards?  

----- Original Message -----

From: BruceHallman

To: bolger@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 5:03 PM

Subject: Re: [bolger] Mission #1 in support of PB&F

 

This has to be the largest leeboarder in the world, or nearly so.

Is the hull flat bottomed with linear keel, and a rounded chine like with Resolution?  

On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 1:35 PM, <philbolger@...> wrote:

 

She is designed for them, depends on them for lateral plane, but they have yet to be built and hung.

Susanne Altenburger, PB&F

----- Original Message -----

From: BruceHallman

To: bolger@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 4:30 PM

Subject: Re: [bolger] Mission #1 in support of PB&F

 

Asking a far out question: Does Phouma have leeboards?  

From: Mason Smith

To: bolger@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 8:55 AM

Subject: RE: [bolger] Mission #1 in support of PB&F

 

That bow intrigued me in the photos, Susanne. A way of making a desirable shape more manageable in steel? I look forward to your piece in MAIB on it.

From: bolger@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bolger@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of philbolger@...
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 5:13 PM
To: bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [bolger] Mission #1 in support of PB&F

 

I would assume that our Chinese friends had/have (?) much larger leeboarders... But, perhaps not.
Slight arc bottom with hard-chine but a regular vee-bow with actually an intriguing inverted Vee intersection where 'lower' bow meets upper bow flare, visible from her forward quarters.
I'll do a MAIB piece, with Phil's perspective on this design.

Susanne Altenburger, PB&F 

----- Original Message -----

From: BruceHallman

To: bolger@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 5:03 PM

Subject: Re: [bolger] Mission #1 in support of PB&F

 

This has to be the largest leeboarder in the world, or nearly so.

Is the hull flat bottomed with linear keel, and a rounded chine like with Resolution?  

On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 1:35 PM, <philbolger@...> wrote:

 

She is designed for them, depends on them for lateral plane, but they have yet to be built and hung.

Susanne Altenburger, PB&F

----- Original Message -----

From: BruceHallman

To: bolger@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 4:30 PM

Subject: Re: [bolger] Mission #1 in support of PB&F

 

Asking a far out question: Does Phouma have leeboards?  

----- Original Message -----

From: BruceHallman

To: bolger@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 6:06 PM

Subject: Re: [bolger] Mission #1 in support of PB&F [1 Attachment]

 

On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 6:56 AM, <philbolger@...> wrote:

 

I'll quote Phil on this and share her lines in MAIB.  Her shape is one of those exercises that make his work to interesting.  Instead of going 'standard-issue' whatever, he figures another approach which clearly worked and was executed without dramatics and without any ship-yard to support the construction...

Susanne Altenburger, PB&F  

This could be a parlor game, guessing what Phuma looks like below the water lines.  Here is my guess.

 

I am heading north for Bellingham and the ferry home on the 26 or 7th of April,

I

could make a pass by then.



HJ



  I wish the reality of my life included the flexibility of this 10 hour

> round trip, but so far, it does not.  Maybe someone else?

>

> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 8:05 AM, <philbolger@...> wrote:

>

>> **

>>

>>

>>  Has anyone had a chance to visit PHOUMA in Eureka, CA in support of

>> Mission #1 ?

>>

>> Susanne Altenburger, PB&F

>>

>>

>>

>

I will put it on my want to do while I am down here list. I have always wanted

to

visit Humboldt Bay. I am trucking the boat to Puget Sound, then sailing it home

so

I won't get to see it by sea.



I might leave a day early here and stop by on the way north.



HJ



Hi Harry,

>

> You always are welcome to borrow any of my boats.  They all are more than a

> bit neglected, but the Cartoon 5, Tortoise, and Kotick are stored on the

> roof of my garage in SF, and the Micro (sorely neglected in the marina by

> the ballpark) and the Topaz Spyder is in a boatyard in Dogpatch.  My spare

> time comes in very small chunks now-a-days with first priority being my

> health and marriage.  Followed by my day job, and this endless remodel of a

> money-pit 125 year old house.

>

> Bruce

>

> On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 6:49 PM, <welshman@...> wrote:

>

>> **

>>

>>

>> Bruce

>>

>> I am down in Napa Valley Marina for the winter. Here's why

>>

>> http://www.hjboats.com/columbia38/index.html

>>

>> Maybe I could borrow one of your boats, I have my long bed chevy with me.

>> It has a

>> rack and a camper shell that I am using for tool hauling.

>>

>> 500 mile round trip from here. It would be a bit before I could get to

>> it---if at all.

>>

>> HJ

>>

>>

>

----- Original Message -----

From: Stephen Kandul

To: bolger@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 7:22 PM

Subject: [bolger] Re: Mission #1 in support of PB&F

 

>>>> Bruce Hallman's remark that this design was a new one for him sort of stopped me cold.
As they say "I'll be darned..." - I'd rather someone did my socks...- but I could have sworn that Phil/we had run Design #410 in the decades-long MAIB Bolger-On-Design narrative. But I seem to be mistaken. Has anyone else another set of lenses through which to scan that stack of articles ?
<<<<

I took a look at the pictures Bruce posted links to of the vessel.   Near as I can tell it was not featured in MAIB in past ten or so years.  Seems like you have found a follow-on topic to write up once that Navy landing craft/patrol boat splashes…

Now, about those study plans for a boat with Elco “happy smack” characteristics, and Bolger innovation and functionality…??  Awaiting your reply.

Regards, SSK

That sailor in the background looks like he is 20' tall!



http://hallman.org/bolger/410h.jpg



Andrew







--- In bolger@yahoogroups.com, BruceHallman  wrote:

>

> Here are a couple more Flickr photos found of Phouma, one is a nice side

> view taken from another boat

>

> http://hallman.org/bolger/410h.jpg

> http://hallman.org/bolger/410h.jpg

>

>

> Another factoid, the boat berthed just next to Phouma is the 'Coral Sea'

> which is owned and operated by the Humbolt State University Oceanography

> department.

>