HEllo Jeff,
Thanks for the info.
Hmmmm, now I might have a use for some of those cryo cars....
Regards,
Charlie
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From: Jeff
Date: Friday, December 18, 2009 10:42 am
Subject: [bnsf_modelers] Re: Modeling a BNSF "Smurf"
To: bnsf_modelers@yahoogroups.com
> --- In bnsf_modelers@yahoogroups.com, charles tobin
> wrote:
> >
> > Hey Jeff,
> >
> > Did you also do the reefer in the background?
> >
> > If so, what car was used? Kitbash??
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Charlie Tobin
>
>
> Hi Charlie,
>
> Yup, that's my reefer back there. I started with a Walthers
> cryogenic reefer, rebuilt the ends with sheet styrene, and
> scratch-built the reefer end using one of the A-Line Reefer
> units, sheet and strip styrene, and a lot of patience. I used
> the fuel tank that A-Line provides, with styrene tubing to
> extend it to the whole width of the car. The difficult thing
> about the car is having to splice the floor to move the truck on
> the reefer end closer to the "new" end, since you're extending
> the car's length by a few feet, so the truck center's would be
> off if you left it as is. With this, you have to rebuild the
> swing coupler mechanism too, which proved to be rather
> difficult.
>
> Thanks a lot, and let me know if I can be of any more help,
> Jeff Carlson
> Topeka, KS
>
>
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--- In bnsf_modelers@yahoogroups.com, charles tobin <cjtobin@...> wrote:
>
> Hey Jeff,
>
> Did you also do the reefer in the background?
>
> If so, what car was used? Kitbash??
>
> Thanks,
>
> Charlie Tobin
Hi Charlie,
Yup, that's my reefer back there. I started with a Walthers cryogenic reefer,
rebuilt the ends with sheet styrene, and scratch-built the reefer end using one
of the A-Line Reefer units, sheet and strip styrene, and a lot of patience. I
used the fuel tank that A-Line provides, with styrene tubing to extend it to the
whole width of the car. The difficult thing about the car is having to splice
the floor to move the truck on the reefer end closer to the "new" end, since
you're extending the car's length by a few feet, so the truck center's would be
off if you left it as is. With this, you have to rebuild the swing coupler
mechanism too, which proved to be rather difficult.
Thanks a lot, and let me know if I can be of any more help,
Jeff Carlson
Topeka, KS
Hey Tom,
When and if you need a second unit,let me know.
I have a new unit(# 9959) available for $85.00
Regards,
Charlie
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From: bnsf_modelers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bnsf_modelers@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of krzyvolfan
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 9:14 AM
To: bnsf_modelers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bnsf_modelers] Re: BNSF SD70 MAC Kato or Genesis??
Hi, Guys,
Thanks for your answers. After losing an Auction for a niecly weathered
Athearn SD70 in the Exec Scheme, I took your advise and ordered a Kato Sd70
in the H2 Scheme. Now I just have to get it, add Dcc and prolly sound, the a
tad of weathering
Tom G
iuka
Hi, Guys,
Thanks for your answers. After losing an Auction for a niecly weathered
Athearn SD70 in the Exec Scheme, I took your advise and ordered a Kato Sd70 in
the H2 Scheme. Now I just have to get it, add Dcc and prolly sound, the a tad of
weathering
Tom G
iuka
FTC clears BNSF takeover; Berkshire plans stock split
The Federal Trade Commission has given Berkshire Hathaway antitrust
approval for its planned takeover of Burlington Northern Santa Fe Corp.,
operator of BNSF Railway. The approval, which was expected, appeared Monday in a
list of antitrust clearances routinely issued by the FTC.
Berkshire has offered to pay $26.4 billion for the 77.4% of BNSF that it
does not now own. Combined with previously owned shares and $10 billion in debt,
the takeover is valued at around $44 billion.
Berkshire has also filed a preliminary proxy statement with the Securities
and Exchange Commission giving notice that it has set Jan. 20 for a special
shareholders meeting in Omaha. Shareholders will be asked to approve a 50-for-1
split of Berkshire's Class B shares. The higher-priced Class A shares will not
be affected.
The split would bring Berkshire Hathaway's Class B shares down to about
$66 each from their current level of around $3,300.
Berkshire's Warren Buffett said earlier in an interview with CNBC that the
split will enable "anybody that has as little as one share of BNSF to opt for
the tax-free exchange ... So those small shareholders can have exactly the same
availability that otherwise would only have been available to a big
shareholder."
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Hi Tom
I own 6 Athearn SD70MACs and 3 Kato SD70MACs. I give Kato a slight edge over the
Athearn units. Both models are fairly detailed and run smooth and quiet. Both
are about equeal in terms of pulling power. The Athearn SD70MAC will M.U. with
other athearn units with little problem. The Kato models dont M.U. with any
other model maanufacturer other than another kato unless DCC is involved.
Parts are availible from both manufacturersÂ
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Where Kato really shines is in train handling. Like Cornelius I also run 36 car
coal trains up and down a 1.8% grade on a helix. While two of either SD70MAC
can handle a train of this size and length albeit with a bit of wheel slip, a
third unit lessens wheel slip. The Katos climb and hold the train on the down
grade without a lot of throttle adjustments as is the case for the Athearns. The
Kato SD70MACs provide superior train handling over the Athearn MACs. Also Katos
drive line and trucks are more durable and track better than Athearn which
require disassembly and adjustments to get the same results.
Â
Both are Good models but the Kato has less problems right out of the box.
Â
hope this helps
Paul--- On Mon, 12/7/09, koelewyn@... <koelewyn@...> wrote:
From: koelewyn@... <koelewyn@...>
Subject: RE: [bnsf_modelers] BNSF SD70 MAC Kato or Genesis??
To: bnsf_modelers@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, December 7, 2009, 3:15 PM
Â
Hi Tom,
As the owner of about 10 Kato SD70MAC's I'd say go with a Kato.
The Kato's run very smooth and look quite nice. I sometimes run 36 car coal
trains with two Kato SD70MAC's up front and one at the rear without any
problem.
On the other hand, some people think the Athearn SD70MAC has better detail.
But from other Athearns in my collection I know these details can be very
fragile. And sometimes the parts haven't been applied correctly or with
large glue stains.
Kato's don't have this problem.
Overall I think Kato offers better value for the $, even if the price is a
bit higher than Athearn.
Greetings, Cornelius Koelewijn.
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From: krzyvolfan tom@toltecltg. com
Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 19:39:21 -0000
To: bnsf_modelers@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [bnsf_modelers] BNSF SD70 MAC Kato or Genesis??
Good Afternoon,.
I am a new member who models the BNSF and MRL in Montana. I am looking to
add an SD70MAC to my Roster. I would like some input as to which would be
the best one to purchase and why? Thanks in advance for your thoughts...
Tom Gregory
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Hi Tom,
As the owner of about 10 Kato SD70MAC's I'd say go with a Kato.
The Kato's run very smooth and look quite nice. I sometimes run 36 car coal
trains with two Kato SD70MAC's up front and one at the rear without any
problem.
On the other hand, some people think the Athearn SD70MAC has better detail.
But from other Athearns in my collection I know these details can be very
fragile. And sometimes the parts haven't been applied correctly or with
large glue stains.
Kato's don't have this problem.
Overall I think Kato offers better value for the $, even if the price is a
bit higher than Athearn.
Greetings, Cornelius Koelewijn.
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From: krzyvolfan tom@...
Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 19:39:21 -0000
To: bnsf_modelers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bnsf_modelers] BNSF SD70 MAC Kato or Genesis??
Good Afternoon,.
I am a new member who models the BNSF and MRL in Montana. I am looking to
add an SD70MAC to my Roster. I would like some input as to which would be
the best one to purchase and why? Thanks in advance for your thoughts...
Tom Gregory
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Good Afternoon,.
I am a new member who models the BNSF and MRL in Montana. I am looking to add
an SD70MAC to my Roster. I would like some input as to which would be the best
one to purchase and why? Thanks in advance for your thoughts...
Tom Gregory
has anyone attempted to use the bachmann full dome car for the bay view? I
already have a set of TSP trucks, was thinking bout adding wire grabs and such.
Thoughts, comments? I have seen some Lambert brass cars, but, heard the quality
is not so good.
--- In bnsf_modelers@yahoogroups.com, Josh Baakko <josh@...> wrote:
>
> Here's the 3rd:
> http://www.danrutherford.org/valleyview.pdf
>
> Josh
>
> engco18 wrote:
> > I didnt know they had a 3rd 1 josh! Im not sure if they have more, I
actually found them on accident! On another note, Im wondering if they make
grils in N scale that would work for the snoqualimie pass? Im thinking maybe a
GP style radiator screen?
http://rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1281269
> >
> > --- In bnsf_modelers@yahoogroups.com, Josh Baakko <josh@> wrote:
> >
> >> Does that site have any more PDF's? That's 3 so far from there.
> >> Josh
> >>
> >> engco18 wrote:
> >>
> >>> http://www.danrutherford.org/mississippi.pdf
> >>>
> >>> http://www.danrutherford.org/fredharvey.pdf
> >>>
> >>> --- In bnsf_modelers@yahoogroups.com, "engco18" <riss2509@> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Im in the same boat to Josh, I found some Broadway cars that are close.
Some of the Rapido BN executive cars are right on except for the fluting. If I
can figure out how to do fluting and make it look good, that would solve a few
cars right there! Riss
> >>>>
> >>>> --- In bnsf_modelers@yahoogroups.com, Josh Baakko <josh@> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> The most I've started on are the Bi-levels. Still trying to find
> >>>>> someone who can laser cut acrylic sides, or etch brass sides for those.
> >>>>> Josh
> >>>>>
> >>>>> engco18 wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> As this project is moving forward, has anyone else attempted to build
some reasonable stand-ins for the BNSF business car fleet? So far I have 1 car,
and 2 on order to start the project. Been looking at ideas for a coach car,
sleeper. Rapido is a possibility, but, how do ya go about doing fluting? Any
ideas, past modeling attempts??? Thanks, Eric R.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --- In bnsf_modelers@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Carlson" <Tuba147@> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> There are a few cars that are actually quite easy to come across in
HO.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The Bachmann dome car can be used to model the ex-ATSF Bay View.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Kato made a business car a few years back that is the exact same car
as the Mississippi River/Gerald Grinstein, and is fairly similar to the
"Topeka."
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> From Walthers' "Super Chief" set from a few years ago, the diner is a
dead ringer for today's "Fred Harvey."
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The HEP car/Baggage car that was formerly the BNSF 77 has now been
renumbered (52?) and renamed "Glorieta Pass." This car could be easily had from
the Walthers or Rivarossi baggage cars.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> For any of the other sleepers or lounge cars, reasonable facsimilies
can be had from using the Walthers cars that have been released. Decals for
these cars are made be ELS trains, and they are great to work with.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Let me know if there's anything else I can help you with.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -Jeff Carlson
> >>>>>>> Topeka, KS
> >>>>>>>
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Here's the 3rd:
http://www.danrutherford.org/valleyview.pdf
Josh
engco18 wrote:
> I didnt know they had a 3rd 1 josh! Im not sure if they have more, I actually
found them on accident! On another note, Im wondering if they make grils in N
scale that would work for the snoqualimie pass? Im thinking maybe a GP style
radiator screen? http://rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1281269
>
> --- In bnsf_modelers@yahoogroups.com, Josh Baakko <josh@...> wrote:
>
>> Does that site have any more PDF's? That's 3 so far from there.
>> Josh
>>
>> engco18 wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.danrutherford.org/mississippi.pdf
>>>
>>> http://www.danrutherford.org/fredharvey.pdf
>>>
>>> --- In bnsf_modelers@yahoogroups.com, "engco18" <riss2509@> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Im in the same boat to Josh, I found some Broadway cars that are close.
Some of the Rapido BN executive cars are right on except for the fluting. If I
can figure out how to do fluting and make it look good, that would solve a few
cars right there! Riss
>>>>
>>>> --- In bnsf_modelers@yahoogroups.com, Josh Baakko <josh@> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The most I've started on are the Bi-levels. Still trying to find
>>>>> someone who can laser cut acrylic sides, or etch brass sides for those.
>>>>> Josh
>>>>>
>>>>> engco18 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> As this project is moving forward, has anyone else attempted to build
some reasonable stand-ins for the BNSF business car fleet? So far I have 1 car,
and 2 on order to start the project. Been looking at ideas for a coach car,
sleeper. Rapido is a possibility, but, how do ya go about doing fluting? Any
ideas, past modeling attempts??? Thanks, Eric R.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --- In bnsf_modelers@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Carlson" <Tuba147@> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There are a few cars that are actually quite easy to come across in HO.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Bachmann dome car can be used to model the ex-ATSF Bay View.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kato made a business car a few years back that is the exact same car as
the Mississippi River/Gerald Grinstein, and is fairly similar to the "Topeka."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From Walthers' "Super Chief" set from a few years ago, the diner is a
dead ringer for today's "Fred Harvey."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The HEP car/Baggage car that was formerly the BNSF 77 has now been
renumbered (52?) and renamed "Glorieta Pass." This car could be easily had from
the Walthers or Rivarossi baggage cars.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For any of the other sleepers or lounge cars, reasonable facsimilies can
be had from using the Walthers cars that have been released. Decals for these
cars are made be ELS trains, and they are great to work with.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let me know if there's anything else I can help you with.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Jeff Carlson
>>>>>>> Topeka, KS
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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