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Re: [blogging4educators] a question

I was waiting for this question.

First of all, Google reader and Technorati are two different things. Google
Reader and Bloglines are feedreaders. If you want to follow a blog (you
have one in mind) you can subscribe to its feed. But you already have to
know about the blog.

Technorati and http://blogsearch.google.com/ search blogs to help you find
ones you you are looking for but don't know about yet. I haven't used
blogsearch that much and I don't know whether or not it searches for tags in
blog postings.There is information here that says it utilizes blog
'structure' http://www.google.com/help/about_blogsearch.html but I found no
mention of tags. A search on blogging4educators only turns up 19 results.
I turned the safe filter off, and got the same.

Notice point 5 at the above URL. It points to information about pinging
http://www.google.com/help/blogsearch/about_pinging.html

Now, how does Google or Technorati know that a blog exists? It has to at
some point ping that blog. A ping is like a sonar packet of data that one
server sends another, which the receiving server acknowledges and returns a
ping to that effect. So to start the process your blog has to ping Google
or Technorati and say, yoo hoo, here I am. Normally the search engines
troll blog sites and look for blogs, ping them, and once they've found them,
follow them, but in case you have to go proactive, there is information on
how to do that here:
http://www.google.com/help/blogsearch/about_pinging.html

I know more about this with Technorati. Technorati searches on TAGS in
blogs, but you have to be sure your blog is PUBLIC (somewhere in your
settings you can make it so). This will enable it to communicate with blog
search engines (i.e. ping them and answer pings). If it still doesn't show
on listings, you might have to manually send a ping to the search engine.

David Warlick has some information about how you can do that with Technorati
here: http://hitchhikr.com/index.php?mode=faq#2

Also, you can register with Technorati. Once you've done that you can
'claim' your blog. If you follow this procedure you'll eventually reach a
point where you can ping Technorati. Yoo hoo, I'm here !!

When we were experimenting with writingmatrix we had a lot of people,
including me, who could not get their blogs to show up in Technorati
listings despite numerous attempts using all the tricks mentioned so far. I
wrote them to ask what was going on. They wrote back that they would look
into it. Eventually they came up with a tweak on their interface whereby
you can adjust the level of authority you want your blog results to be
invested with. If you are researching latest developments on a vexing
physics problem you might want to weed out hits where the poster is not
known. If you are dealing with first time bloggers (educators, that's us!)
then you want to see posts of blogs of students and colleages with zero
'authority'. So now Technorati have made it possible to search on posts
with ANY authority. This is what you want. You can see how to adjust this
in my screencast given in the wiki for Week 3:

- Managing Feeds in Google Reader (3.5 mb)
http://213.42.148.233/mod/resource/view.php?id=13029 or



http://213.42.148.233/file.php/83/internetsearch/google_reader_manage_feeds.wmv<\
http://213.42.148.233/file.php>
-

http://213.42.148.233/file.php/83/internetsearch/google_reader_manage_feeds.swf(
13.8 megabytes)

When I do a search in Technorati on blogging4educators tagged posts with ANY
authority
http://technorati.com/search/blogging4educators?authority=n&language=en

I get 48 hits. If i change this to 'a little' authority that number reduces
to 8 hits.

This probably sounds more complicated to some of you than you wish it was,
but this is the reality as far as my colleagues and I in writingmatrix were
able to work it out over the past several months. On the up side, my posts
are now showing up in Technorati listings ;-) So try some of the hints
indicated above and let us know if it solves your problem (and if not,
that's ok too, because your feedback will help push us to the next level of
discovery)

And if you already KNOW, been there done that, then we want to hear from
YOU.

Ever Inquiringly,
Vance


On Feb 2, 2008 1:54 AM, Ms andreea pele <andreeapele@...> wrote:

> hi all,
> i need your expert help. again!
> the first problem is the following: i'm on blogger and i can't find my
> blog on technorati. i only see it as a link on one of my friend's blog. i
> can't find it on google either. :( so clearly i haven't checked something
> properly. do you happen to know what?
> and two, what do we do with the tags. do we have to bring them together on
> google reader? is yes, how?
>
> many many thanks ^:)^
> andreea
>
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hi all, i need your expert help. again! the first problem is the following: i'm on blogger and i can't find my blog on technorati. i only see it as a link on...
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I was waiting for this question. First of all, Google reader and Technorati are two different things. Google Reader and Bloglines are feedreaders. If you...
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Vance, thanks for your help, It's one of thsoe occasions that makes me realise how close i am to hating technology. For google blog search, i pinged them by...
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Things often work better in the morning. You'll get a fresh idea while you sleep. Keep trying, we'll help, Vance ... -- Vance Stevens ...
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I have a question about pinging + technorati.... I used David Warlick's Blog tag Generator. The second step asked: Copy the html code here, and paste it in the...
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Hi Gina, I'll share my baby experience at this with you. At the Dashboard of your blog, and under presentation, you'll find widgets. Drag one of the 'text'...
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You are brilliant... mine's still a bit clumsy, but at least I'm on the right path. Gina http://webgina.edublogs.org ... [Non-text portions of this message...
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