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Naming implies authority: another look at Genesis 2:23   Message List  
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Does the fact that the human (ha-'adam) of Genesis 2 names the
'ishah mean he thereby wields thereby authority over her? The
suggestion seems strained to me.

According to "Mona Lisa's Sword" – gotta love that title
– a site for self-defense instructors, "naming implies
authority." Its positive use involves the drawing of clear
boundaries. Here's the link:

http://www.monalisas-sword.com/mysd/index.php?id=113
<http://www.monalisas-sword.com/mysd/index.php?id=113>

Naming, in some contexts, is an exercise of power. Wielding authority,
furthermore, is a positive thing. The authority vacuum which
characterizes many aspects of society today is the cause of much
suffering in the world. Self-defense instructors are right to encourage
their students to name potentially threatening individuals in their
environment, and wield authority over them. Right on, Mona! Wield that
sword! The alternative, "turning the other cheek," is very
unhelpful advice. True, somebody I respect said those words, but the
words have been mis-contextualized and abused by well-meaning followers.
It's always someone else who is supposed to turn the other cheek,
isn't it?

But to suggest, as many scholars do, that the naming of the 'ishah
in Gen 2 is an example of wielding authority, seems strained to me. The
subtleties of the biblical text in which the human (ha-'adam)
proclaims that "this one" shall be called 'ishah
"woman," a play on 'ish, "man," are thereby
overlooked.

As Nahum Sarna puts it in his Genesis (JPSTC; Philadelphia: Jewish
Publication Society, 1989) 23:

[I]n naming her 'ishah, he simultaneously names himself. Hitherto he
is consistently called 'adam; he now calls himself 'ish for the
first time. Thus he discovers his own manhood and fulfillment only when
he faces the woman, the human being who is to be his partner for life.

Naming is not always about wielding authority. It can be an expression
of love and appreciation, the conclusion of a process of discovery and
self-discovery.




John

www.ancienthebrewpoetry.typepad.com
<http://www.ancienthebrewpoetry.typepad.com/>






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Wed Mar 5, 2008 10:04 pm

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Does the fact that the human (ha-'adam) of Genesis 2 names the 'ishah mean he thereby wields thereby authority over her? The suggestion seems strained to me. ...
hobbinsjohn Offline Send Email Mar 5, 2008
10:04 pm

... Of course, John goes on from there. I won't quote the whole post (and in so doing, I hope to set a good example). Thank you, John. I agree with you about...
Christopher Heard
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Mar 5, 2008
10:43 pm

... John, I sense an invitation to danse. This is probably one of the most colourful lines in the entire history of Bible translation. This evening I will post...
suzmccarth Offline Send Email Mar 5, 2008
11:23 pm

Dansons-nous, mon cheri....
hobbinsjohn Offline Send Email Mar 5, 2008
11:43 pm

Rob Holmstedt on my blog just commented saying the background is ANE, to which I replied, that background is more multi-faceted than sometimes assumed. No one...
hobbinsjohn Offline Send Email Mar 5, 2008
11:33 pm

Hi, Is there a difference some how in the use between where Adam names the animals, which seems to stem from his 'dominion' over them, to where Adam names Eve?...
geoff
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Mar 6, 2008
12:24 am

On this issue George Ramsey wrote a very useful paper: G. W. Ramsey, "Is Name-Giving an Act of Dominion in Genesis 2-3 and Elsewhere?" CBQ 50.1 (Jan 1988)...
Martin Shields
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Mar 6, 2008
12:37 am

... Geoff, Does the context of Gen 1 and 2 give the Hebrew word for "to call" the additional meaning of "have dominion over?" It is not part of basic meaning,...
suzmccarth Offline Send Email Mar 6, 2008
1:57 am

suzmccarth wrote: /Does the context of Gen 1 and 2 give the Hebrew word for "to call" the additional meaning of "have dominion over?" It is not part of basic ...
geoff
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Mar 6, 2008
3:18 am

... We are working with the same word throughout, I believe, KR) "qere" "to call." It is not a word that pertains exclusively to "naming", and it is translated...
Suzanne McCarthy
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Mar 6, 2008
3:31 am

A couple of quick observations. (1) 'ish and 'isha are semantically related. Historically, they may not derive from the same root. Whoop-de-do. 'av...
hobbinsjohn Offline Send Email Mar 6, 2008
5:11 am

... Right, John, that's the part I missed - the whoop-de-do. Never mind, this is the line in the Bible where translators have demonstrated the most...
Suzanne McCarthy
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Mar 6, 2008
5:47 am

What I find interesting about the declaration in Gen 2:23 is that it departs from the ³normal² naming formula found in Genesis and in the rest of the Hebrew...
Tyler F. Williams
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Mar 6, 2008
6:40 am

... If you look at Ramsey's article from CBQ (cited earlier) you'll find that there is considerable diversity in language used to bestow names. Trible tried to...
Martin Shields
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Mar 6, 2008
8:39 am

... Very well said, Martin! Richard was right to be careful about extending an observation that works fine across a broad swath of texts that deal with...
hobbinsjohn Offline Send Email Mar 6, 2008
8:58 am

... Is it really the case that there is no semantic link (I don't know Hebrew, I hasten to add)? I'd always assumed the words were related, like our...
David Cavanagh
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Mar 7, 2008
8:13 am

... Certamente sono termini correlati, come 'uomo' e 'donna' in italiano, pur essendo parole di radici diverse. In fact, David, I pointed out the correctness...
hobbinsjohn Offline Send Email Mar 7, 2008
8:28 am

... I wonder if the real question you are asking is whether there is an ETYMOLOGICAL link. There is certainly a semantic link because the words have related...
Peter Kirk
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Mar 7, 2008
10:27 am

... Yes, Peter, that is probably what I meant: I apologize, but as a layman I often get my terms a bit confused! David Cavanagh Major (The Salvation Army) ...
David Cavanagh
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Mar 7, 2008
10:43 am

At first sight, especially from a transliteration, ... loss ... Peter, This is what I meant, different etymology, but I posed the question sloppily. So, Adam...
Suzanne McCarthy
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Mar 7, 2008
4:04 pm

... I think, Suzanne, that the text was not designed to answer those kind of questions. It's fun to speculate of course. Derash interpretation of scripture...
hobbinsjohn Offline Send Email Mar 7, 2008
4:58 pm

Hi, Suzanne, ... HH: Yes, he named her. The text is as clear in English as in Hebrew: Gen. 2:23 The man said, "This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my ...
Harold Holmyard
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Mar 7, 2008
7:07 pm

... This is what I have been trying to figure out. If it says that Adam gave her this name, then it appears that Adam was not, in fact, speaking Hebrew. This...
Suzanne McCarthy
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Mar 7, 2008
8:01 pm

... Sorry, gang, but I'm trying to figure out if there is any other "cash value" (than that which Suzanne cites) to asking about "what language Adam spoke." As...
Christopher Heard
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Mar 8, 2008
4:20 pm

In partial response to Chris's question (I am away from my office and resources there), I have dug up my esoteric notes on "woman" from my Hebraica seminar at...
Danny Mathews
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Mar 9, 2008
12:26 am

Danny Mathews wrote: It appears that the doubling in Heb *ishshah* stems from the original, now assimilated, nun. I write: I'm glad you brought that up, Danny....
Kevin P. Edgecomb
kedgecom2002 Offline Send Email
Mar 9, 2008
1:10 am

Well, here's a question for the linguists among us: since the dagesh only actually appears in the dotted MT, the earliest example of which we have is the...
Yigal Levin
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Mar 9, 2008
12:37 am

Would not the plural of àéùä [ )Y$H ], viz. ðùéí [ N$YM ], indicate that it derives, not from àéù, [ )Y$ ] but rather from àðåù [ )NW$ ] ? ...
George F Somsel
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Mar 9, 2008
1:47 am

Right, George. It seems pretty clear that )Y$H has ).N.$ for its root. I'm wondering what's the scoop on )Y$ -- why is it this outlier, or is it? It's easy...
Kevin P. Edgecomb
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Mar 9, 2008
2:37 am
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