Andy and others,

I downloaded and re-uploaded the video to my own youtube account in case the other one is taken down: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEDyL-h9M3o

I noticed the following (following with what Andy had already done):

Male and female deacons are all being installed together (0:03)
Deb, elected to be a female deacon is being used as the exemplar to represent the other 17 being installed later that morning
The Pastor states: "Deb is assuming the Diaconal Role this morning." (0:13)
Nominated (0:20) by members of Redeemer as a Candidate just as the other elders and deacons
Extensive Training Process (0:28)
Interviewed by other officers of the Church (0:35)
Elected by vote of congregation (0:41)
Deaconess for Deb is an extraordinary calling (1:17)
She is charged (1:34)
Six Ordination Questions are asked to the woman (4:26)
The Pastor clearly uses the word 'ordination' in regard to what is going on (5:09)
The members of Redeemer promise and covenant to yield obedience to her. (6:02).

With that last one, do those who hold to women 'deacons' really think that there is no authority in the office?  :)


Andrew Barnes
Tchula PCA



--- In bbwarfield@yahoogroups.com, "Andrew J. Webb" <ajwebb@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Brothers,
>
> I'm grateful to Andrew Barnes for posting this. I would recommend you
> watch the following video which is publicly available to the entire
> world on Youtube. It shows the ordination and installation of a
> Deacons and Deaconesses at Redeemer NYC during a worship service:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvJ2CUnRnlc
>
> I'd note several things, the male and female deacons are all being
> installed together and Deb, a female deacon is being used as the
> exemplar to represent the other 17 being installed that morning. The
> Pastor states: "Deb is assuming the Deaconal Role this morning." He
> asks her the questions for the ordination and installation of deacons
> from the BCO and clearly uses the word ordination in regard to what
> is going on.
>
> He also indicates that she has been "called" she is a "candidate" she
> went through the same interviews she was "elected" a charge is given
> and then the members of Redeemer promise and covenant to yield
> obedience to her.
>
> I'm sending this again merely as an evidence of how needful the
> overture Central Carolina just voted to send to the GA really is, I
> do not doubt that several other PCA churches are following exactly
> the same procedure. Brothers, this is a public act of ORDINATION at a
> PCA church in their Sunday worship service not a private sin
> committed against me. This is not a Matthew 18 issue dealing with
> individuals. It is the official practice of a church that is public,
> well known, has been in place for years, is ongoing and which the
> session has implemented and defended in print, in their presbytery,
> and in debates.
>
> Your Servant in Christ,
>
> TE Andy Webb
>
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