Well I have Ron but that is beside the point ...... in this particular case ;-) ... From: rbrock750ii To: bayonetcollecting@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday,...
Jeff, My first idea is that it has been "Turked". :o) Harry ... From: Jeff To: bayonetcollecting@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 10:08 AM ...
Jeff, All I get when I click on the link is " Page cannot be found " ?? So I can't pass an opinion. ... No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG...
Peter, its only picking up the first half of the link. Copy and paste the second half into your browser address window. Harry ... From: Peter Illingworth To:...
EH ??? I'm not a NERD Harry - I don't know what the Hell your talking about !! - I still call radio - WIRELESS !!! ;-) BTW - while we're at it ALL the hilts on...
Peter, Not really. The early ones, with the silver alloy hilts and quillons don't unscrew. This option was added later, though I'm not 100% certain when. I...
Hi Harry, The model for the removeable hilt is the 86/93. All previous fixed hilts were white metal up until that point. After my reading maybe you could...
Check that last statement, according to Kiesling Vol 4 the brass and steel hilts weren't introduced until the 86/93/16. Pardon my silly little self ;0) Scott ...
Harry and Scott, The original M1886 also had a hilt that was screwed on. The bayonet tang continued to the end of the hilt and had a thread cut on it. The...
Hi Peter, Thanks for the info on the M1886. Obviously this would be a very scarce bayonet to come across. So how would you identify one of these animals. I...
Scott, Yeah, the Lebels can be a bit confusing. ... From: Scott Ring To: bayonetcollecting@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 4:49 PM Subject: Re:...
Peter, Are you saying that the early Lebels, silver handled with quillon and no "spanner holes" in the end of the pommel will screw off by just twisting the...
Scott, I think "German silver" is white metal. That would be the early Lebels with the quillon and no spanner holes, I guess. Waiting to hear back from Peter...
Scott, German Silver is the correct name for the " White Metal " ;-) The original 86's will be very, VERY rare - I've never seen one. Well the 86/93's, as you...
German silver, name for various alloys of copper, zinc, and nickel, sometimes also containing lead and tin. They were originally named for their silver-white...
Harry, Yes - that's what I'm saying. Haven't ever ever read about them in a book ??? I have and I don't even collect the Damn things - You have led a sheltered...
Peter, I have two such as you describe, with just the 1/4" or maybe 5/16" steel center and no spanner holes. Both have the German silver handles and the...
Harry and Peter, Now you guys make me feel better anyway explaining German silver is more like pot metal than real silver. Sure glad I didn't buy that 1800's...
Harry, There you are. I bet you got 'em off fleabay ??? Now get the Stillsons on one and see if you can get the hilt off BUT I " wash my hands " of the whole...
Peter, Been looking at it, and thinking you are right. The ends of the tang certainly aren't peened over like a Chassepot, so they have to be held on somehow....
Vial covers the 1886 types fairly extensively in his "Atlas de la Baionette de Collection" Vol.2, and even for those of us whose French reading skills may be...
Ron, Thanks, I have a copy of Vial's Volume II, don't know why I didn't think to look there, was thinking the Lebels would be in Volume III I guess. Or maybe...
Harry: I have to admit that looking at illustrations & 'reading' Vial didn't do much for me except confuse me further on the issue....especially when I...
Ron, Looked at Vial's volume II last night, and have to agree with you. :o) But I notice that Vol.II only goes up to 608mm and the original uncut Lebels are...
Harry: Well at least something has now become clear....I was referring to the original "ABC" rather than the 'New' volume thereof; sorry. The original volume 2...
Ron, Yes, that makes things a bit clearer as far as the references go. The confusion on the bayonets themselves will probably take a bit more time. lol ...
Harry, I'm only supposing the French changed the design to make it easier to take the hilt off, although I can't imagine WHY they would want to be screwing the...
Peter, I humbly bow to your knowledge. :o) After noting that "German Silver" is actually pretty hard, being mostly nickel, I bit the bullet and after removing...
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