I don't particularly want to spark a discussion about the perceived rights and wrongs of homosexual practice (even if it might be a way of sparking this list...
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Raymond Hobbs
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Jul 17, 2000 12:18 pm
Nathan: A very topic for discussion, especially in these times. I know of several Baptist congregations here in Canada, in the US and in Europe who are now...
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V.G.Lumpkin
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Jul 17, 2000 1:05 pm
I think your point is well made, but it seems to me, this type of thinking is more relevant to sacramental theology than ordinance theology. In an ordinance ...
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Raymond Hobbs
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Jul 17, 2000 1:11 pm
Vicki: You are right, it does not belong in an 'ordinance theology', but I have the sneaking suspicion that such a distinction between sacramental and...
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Alec Gilmore
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Jul 17, 2000 9:49 pm
I have come across two useful Research Bibliographies, one on Liturgics and the other on Homiletics, compiled by Robert R Howard at Vanderbilt, and with his...
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Nathan Nettleton
nathan@...
Jul 18, 2000 1:44 am
... I don't want to close off the "blessings" thread, but this useful distinction could initiate a parallel conversation. Thanks for making it Vicki, and good...
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Psheppyjlg@...
Jul 18, 2000 5:39 am
Nathan, What a good discussion to wake up to! Like you I am intrigue by Chris Ellis's attempt to close down the distinction between ordinance and sacrament -...
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Nathan Nettleton
nathan@...
Jul 21, 2000 7:50 am
... There seem to be several models for understanding the process of blessing. I think that the tradition that asserts that we bless God for the gifts would...
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Nathan Nettleton
nathan@...
Jul 25, 2000 12:11 pm
Dear Friends, Back at the beginning of the year, a number of you offered some helpful feedback on an attempt I'd made (for my students) to provide a broad ...
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V.G.Lumpkin
vlumpkin@...
Jul 25, 2000 1:40 pm
Nathan, I like it! It's nice to see someone work in some different directions other than the usual. I'm not sure, however, that I understand how you intend...
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Raymond Hobbs
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Jul 25, 2000 1:50 pm
Nathan: I think this is a very useful model, but would suggest some refinement beyond the one-sentence definitions. Bruce Malina's adaptation of Mary...
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Psheppyjlg@...
Jul 25, 2000 2:12 pm
Dear Nathan, Have you read Paul Bradshaw on this theme in the early Church? You may find some illumination/support. Also, try Robert Gribben in Melbourne....
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Vaughn CroweTipton
vct@...
Jul 25, 2000 2:46 pm
Nathan, I think your ideas here are very good although I use a different taxonomy myself. If it is helpful, here are the categories (in brief) I use as...
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Nathan Nettleton
nathan@...
Jul 26, 2000 1:27 pm
... Fair question, Vicki. It points to the limitation of calling it a taxonomy, becasue that term, coming from biology, implies clear cut categories across...
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Mark Bailey
mbailey@...
Jul 27, 2000 10:23 am
Hi to all. By way of brief introduction my name is Mark Bailey and I am a minister of a small community based Baptist Church in the inner-city of Melbourne. I...
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Psheppyjlg@...
Jul 27, 2000 9:09 pm
Dear Mark, Given that where there are three Baptists you will find four opinions, I doubt whether you will get an authoritative opinion. Lay presidency is...
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Nathan Nettleton
nathan@...
Jul 28, 2000 4:49 am
... I certainly intended to expand the descriptions beyond one sentence - I was just posting the short versions. I have taken your advice, Ray, and had a look...
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Nathan Nettleton
nathan@...
Jul 28, 2000 5:23 am
... My view on this subject is generally regarded as heretical, but I think it is consistent with Baptist emphases, so I'll share it here. I don't think it is...
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Raymond Hobbs
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Jul 29, 2000 2:59 pm
Nathan: This is one of the difficulties with the use of social-anthropological models. One must realise that they do not describe reality, but are 'useful' in...
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Nathan Nettleton
nathan@...
Aug 22, 2000 3:12 am
... I've been able to fill him in on the theology of it, the distinction between dedication and presentation, and the usual scripture warrants, but does...
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Alec Gilmore
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Aug 22, 2000 9:22 pm
Nathan Thanks. You wrote on 22/8/00 4:13am ... I don't know that I have a lot to offer but I did attempt a summary in my book, Baptism and Christian Unity,...
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Alec Gilmore
a.gilmore@...
Aug 23, 2000 3:35 pm
First my apologies for responding through the list instead of direct to Nathan. Put it down to a lack of concentration late at night. But now I do have...
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V.G.Lumpkin
vlumpkin@...
Aug 24, 2000 4:37 pm
Alec, Is this a current link? I don't get very far with it. Vicki _________ Alec Gilmore <a.gilmore@...> wrote: First my apologies for responding...
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Nathan Nettleton
nathan@...
Sep 11, 2000 4:07 am
I came across the quote below and I'm interested to hear whether others have cause to agree or disagree with its assertion that the primary reason Baptists...
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Nathan Nettleton
nathan@...
Sep 15, 2000 12:42 am
Dear Friends, On another list a question was put to me about whether the refusal to baptize children ammounts to exclusion of them from the church. My reply ...
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Psheppyjlg@...
Sep 15, 2000 4:56 am
Dear Nathan, My snap response to your "position paper" is that it expresses very well a central Baptist understanding of church. Our difficulty is that if we...
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Nathan Nettleton
nathan@...
Sep 15, 2000 6:26 am
... I agree. I think I was trying to include that image when I made the point about the relationship between "the Church" and "a church", but my emphasis...
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Garry Deverell
g.deverell@...
Sep 20, 2000 2:27 am
Dear Nathan Yes, a succinct statement of YOUR baptist ecclesiology, which I have a great deal of respect for. Nevertheless, my friend, I continue to ask the...
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Psheppyjlg@...
Sep 20, 2000 4:52 am
I think that Garry's case represents the Anabaptist revolt quite well. However, the Baptist tradition did not stay in one place and the separatist agenda was...
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Nathan Nettleton
nathan@...
Sep 20, 2000 10:01 am
... As I said, my reason for posting it was to test MY baptist ecclesiology against that of others to see whether I am actually in the stream I think I'm in. ...
