Spend a night in the TREES; Treehouse Rentals

Across the country, you can find treehouses to rent. Some accomondation
are simple, and some have all the comforts of home.
Odd Inns - Treehouse Resorts Link
   <http://www.oddinns.com/index.php/pages/treehousesinns.html>
Cheers,
Susie


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Listing of some of the hike in lodges, links, and photos. Including
Mount Le Conte in the Smokies and Sperry Chalet in Glacier.

Top 10 Hike - In Lodges in North America
<http://www.oddinns.com/index.php/pages/hikeinlodges.html>

Cheers,
Susie



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I don't have any general advice but I do have one specific recommendation
for a family-sized tent that has done well in the wind for us: the REI
Base Camp 4.  We were camping with my parents in the Owens Valley
of California one winter when we briefly (for an hour or two) had freak
very high winds (peak gusts over 80 mph).  My parents' tent was
shredded but while the Base Camp 4 flexed quite a bit it survived
with no damage.

I'm sure there are many other tents that do just as well, but this is
one we've used.

I just looked up the Vaude Badawi 2 - holy smokes that is a huge
tent.  The Base Camp 4 is nowhere near that big

-Keith

On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 1:44 PM, steph74de <Steph74de@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi there. We took the children on a five week camping trip this summer. Well,
it was meant to be a five week camping trip. We had bought a big European family
tent (Vaude Badawi 2) but as soon as we hit the Atlantic coast that was it. The
tent did not last for one night because the campgrounds were not sheltered and
the wind was too strong. So we spent the rest of the time by the sea - but not
in a tent.
>
> We have decided now maybe to get two smaller tents instead and try again. Can
you recommend any storm-proof tents or tent shapes?
> Thanks!
>
> STeph
>
>

--- In backpackingwithchildren@yahoogroups.com, "steph74de" <Steph74de@...>
wrote:
>
> We have decided now maybe to get two smaller tents instead and try again. Can
you recommend any storm-proof tents or tent shapes?
> Thanks!
>
> STeph
>
### Having a vertical door means that when the door is open, you do not
automatically have rain coming inside. Having a door that is leaning in towards
the tent peak means that as soon as the zipper is opened in a hair (and a hair
below the coverage line of the fly), the rain/snow gets in. So the simplest
thing is to aim for a tent with vertical doors.  From there, one shape
(nowadays) will shed wind as well as another (assuming the whole business is
properly guyed, as well -- nothing beats running after a mobile tent that is
rolling down the hill into town, will all of your best possessions in it --
"Come baaaaaaack!")

Vertical Doors.

Hi there. We took the children on a five week camping trip this summer. Well, it
was meant to be a five week camping trip. We had bought a big European family
tent (Vaude Badawi 2) but as soon as we hit the Atlantic coast that was it. The
tent did not last for one night because the campgrounds were not sheltered and
the wind was too strong. So we spent the rest of the time by the sea - but not
in a tent.

We have decided now maybe to get two smaller tents instead and try again. Can
you recommend any storm-proof tents or tent shapes?
Thanks!

STeph

So impressed with your journey & the lovely views you shared.



Just showed the photos you posted with my 2-yr-old daughter.  She & her big
bro (6) and big sis (8) are going to get a small taste of hiking &
tent-camping this wknd.



Thanks for sharing your pics and helping us all get pumped up about getting
out in nature!  Best wishes to you & your small backpacking partner!



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Oh my goodness.
Scott, I am really only 7 years old.
Adopt me?

--- In backpackingwithchildren@yahoogroups.com, Jenn Von Bork <dr.jackalope@...>
wrote:
>
> Awesome pix! Looks like you guys had a wonderful time. Your son is very
lucky:) Thanks for sharing!
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 7:34 PM, scott patterson <kesscokim@...>wrote:
> >
> > Oops, here is the link: >
> >
> >
http://www.summitpost.org/trip-report/547714/beautiful-beartooths-photo-trip-rep\
ort-.html

Awesome pix! Looks like you guys had a wonderful time. Your son is very
lucky:) Thanks for sharing!

Let it Grow LV <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Let_It_Grow_LV/>: a resource
for desert gardeners.



On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 7:34 PM, scott patterson <kesscokim@...>wrote:

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> Oops, here is the link:
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ort-.html
>
> --- On Mon, 8/31/09, scott patterson
<kesscokim@...<kesscokim%40yahoo.com>>
> wrote:
>
> From: scott patterson <kesscokim@... <kesscokim%40yahoo.com>>
> Subject: [backpackingwithchildren] Mountaineering in Montana Trip Report
> To:
backpackingwithchildren@yahoogroups.com<backpackingwithchildren%40yahoogroups.co\
m>
> Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 8:32 PM
>
>
> Here is a trip report from last week concerning a mountaineering trip with
> my seven year old son.  I hope you enjoy it.
>
>
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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Oops, here is the link:
 
http://www.summitpost.org/trip-report/547714/beautiful-beartooths-photo-trip-rep\
ort-.html

--- On Mon, 8/31/09, scott patterson <kesscokim@...> wrote:


From: scott patterson <kesscokim@...>
Subject: [backpackingwithchildren] Mountaineering in Montana Trip Report
To: backpackingwithchildren@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 8:32 PM


Here is a trip report from last week concerning a mountaineering trip with my
seven year old son.  I hope you enjoy it.


     

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Yahoo! Groups Links








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Here is a trip report from last week concerning a mountaineering trip with my
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EXCELLENT! Ha! And you've only just begun!


--- In backpackingwithchildren@yahoogroups.com, "ed_rodriguez52"
<ed_rodriguez52@...> wrote:
>
> Hello all, got back from taken out my grandkid from her first backpacking
trip. We hike in 2.3 miles in. She did really good walk the first miles then had
to be help along for the rest. She had the time of her life along the trail. Did
well at camp she took a nap then afterwards all help broke loss. We took
forumula so she can drink insted of milk. She had no part of that lesson learn
have to test out what she drink befor we head on out. Made it through the night.
She sleep warm. Got her dad hook on backpacking.  Ed
>

Hello all, got back from taken out my grandkid from her first backpacking trip.
We hike in 2.3 miles in. She did really good walk the first miles then had to be
help along for the rest. She had the time of her life along the trail. Did well
at camp she took a nap then afterwards all help broke loss. We took forumula so
she can drink insted of milk. She had no part of that lesson learn have to test
out what she drink befor we head on out. Made it through the night. She sleep
warm. Got her dad hook on backpacking.  Ed

--- On Wed, 8/12/09, Jan Lite <liteshoe@...> wrote:

> Well, Skeeter, neither of us are really drinkers.
> It was one of those "When in Rome things..."

### Seven years ago the boys and I went the 170 miles from Killington to Pinkham
Notch -- a trip that involved a couple of good hitches to move the car around. I
think we parked it at The Long Trail Inn first, hiked to Glencliff, hitched back
to retrieve car/food, parked it at Glencliff, hiked to Pinkham, then hitched
back to Glencliff for our ride home. (Boy is it easy to hitch when you've got
twin boys out front with plaintive looks and thumbs outstretched...) Stopped in
Dartmouth and we were interviewed by an undergraduate -- the boys loved that,
and she loved them, and suddenly, we had a place to shower and launder and stay
for the night. (Boy is it easy to score some town magic when you've got twin
boys out front with plaintive looks and bowls outstretched saying, "Please, may
I 'ave some more?")

### It was beastly hot, horribly dry, and punishingly humid that year, with even
New England springs running dry. In thousands of miles of hiking, this was the
only time I ever filtered: there were flatworms about in two different water
sources, including that pond in the Whites (Ethan?); we also had two tiny
ridgetop water sources blown by idiots with dogs (guess how), and saw three
different throughhikers QUIT right there in the Whites. Yow -- 1700-1800 miles
up. (And we heard about others.) It was hard going, I thought. On our last day,
coming down Jefferson-> Pinkham in unrelenting sunshine, each boy fell hard --
Connor put a rock into the side of his head just coming off Madison, Cole fell
off a shallow bridge onto granite nearly within sight of Pinkham -- I thought
he'd fractured his hip. BUT! We went "duty-free" through the Whites (a major
worry for a party of 3 on a limited income)... and we stayed with it when others
wilted and quit. (The boys
  don't remember it being that hot -- I asked them exactly a year ago, as we were
doing last year's hot/humid/hazy hike of the KT.)

### But at the start, as we're once again enjoying McGrath's Irish Pub at
Killington (having visited multiple times in 2000, 2001), Connor -- infused with
the heady atmosphere of darts and food and droughts of dark liquid, hoists my
glass and in a loud, clear voice expounds "Daddy, it's a great day for a
Guinness!" and right there, with everyone looking at this sure-voiced eight year
old, he quaffs a goodly portion of my draft, leaving that wondrous Guinness
mustache behind, should anyone doubt what they just witnessed. Ohmigod. (I'm not
sure, but I think my reaction was to sit silently for a couple of seconds,
blinking widely, emotions running wildly between horror and pride. Frankly, I
don't remember what came out of my mouth. I think I was too busy trying to gauge
the reaction of the lunch crowd...ready to run should hostilities ensue.)

Ahhhh. Memories. "Daddy! It's a great day for a Guinness!" And what day is not,
my boy?

Color me
Guinnesstoe

Just wanted to let you know that Upside Over Inc. is having a clearance sale
with some amazing deals on stuff.  40 to 70% off all kids outdoor gear and
clothing.

www.upsideover.com

How wonderful that must have been!!!!  My husband and I were just talking about
what a great place Emigrant Wilderness is. I'm very much looking forward to when
our little girl can carry her own pack. Thanks for the pix, we really enjoyed
them!!!!

--- In backpackingwithchildren@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Martinez" <joe@...> wrote:
>
> Last week, I took by boys Calvin (almost 10) and Alex (almost 7) backpacking
in the Emigrant Wilderness for 4 nights, 5 days.  It was an excellent trip. 
Here are the photos:
>
> http://outdoors.webshots.com/album/573804023OvWgoX
>
> -Joe
>

Hi Kris, my name is Ed from Nor Cal,Am also about to take my 2 year old grand
kid backpacking for her first time. What I will suggest is first mamake sure you
know the trial that you are going. Am taking my grand kid to carson pass off of
88 we are hiking 2 miles in. I know this trial there are some up hills but for
the most part its flat. I took her to the track so she can walk with me as I get
myself in shape and to wear her down. Of all your daughter gear how much is she
going to cacarry. Also what part of camp set up are you planning to do with her.
It may not be a bad idea to set up camp in your back yard. Last weekend I took
my 22 year old daughter (the mother of my grandkid) backpacking and we had
afternoon tunder showers so keep in mind the longer you wait the more chance of
rain. Good luck, and happy trials ~ Ed

--- In backpackingwithchildren@yahoogroups.com, "Kris Vargas" <sausdsdc@...>
wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I excited to have found this group.  I'm a hiker and backpacking Mama with a 5
yr old daughter who loves the trials and car camping.  We are fully geared-up,
but for my daughter's first backpacking trip I'm not sure what would be
appropriate for her, and exactly how far into fall should I consider taking her
out.  From what I have read, a few miles in for 2 or so nights is good.  I just
want it to be a good expereince for her.  I guess I'm a little hesitant because
it's just her and I, as my husband does not hike or backpack.
>
> Kris in SoCal
>

Hello,

I excited to have found this group.  I'm a hiker and backpacking Mama with a 5
yr old daughter who loves the trials and car camping.  We are fully geared-up,
but for my daughter's first backpacking trip I'm not sure what would be
appropriate for her, and exactly how far into fall should I consider taking her
out.  From what I have read, a few miles in for 2 or so nights is good.  I just
want it to be a good expereince for her.  I guess I'm a little hesitant because
it's just her and I, as my husband does not hike or backpack.

Kris in SoCal

Bob,

    Best way to do it is to jump in and try it just like you've been doing.  Try
and find good used gear or "seconds".  My backpacking tent is from a North Face
outlet and was like 75% off because there is some magic marker on the carrying
bag, otherwise, perfect.  You will probably change what's in your "kit" quite a
bit over the years.
Check out some of the websites people mention in the archives (Sierra Trading
Post, Campmor, etc.)


    I just took my 3 year old and three of her friends (with their dads),
backpacking last month.  We only hiked in 1-1/2 miles but the girls (all 4 kids
were girls) had a blast (hint, glowsticks!).  With a 9 y.o and 11 y.o. you can
actually really get out to some great places.

    One of the best ways to find a great spot is to talk to the ranger at the
park.  They know where all the great spots are and are almost always super nice.
Adjust what they say to what you feel your and your kids capabilities are of
course.

     Good luck!

                 -Dave in SF



--- In backpackingwithchildren@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Blakey" <kerflop@...>
wrote:
>
> Hello fellow parents...  Just want to introduce myself and my situation.  I am
a father of two great kids, 9 yo boy and 11 yo daughter, and husband to a
wonderful young lady.  My son and I love getting outdoors when ever we can.  We
go hiking, camping and swiming but have never seriouly backpacked out to the
backcountry.  We have been experimenting with backpacking at a local state park
that has some walk to campsites.  The site is about 300 yards from where you
park and into thick woods.  We have been carrying limited supplies and food.  We
hike the trails at this park, about 4 miles each day over a weekend.   Not bad
so far, but we are working to improve our equipment and add to it with packs,
bags and shelters.  Looking forward to the groups recommendations and
information.
>
> Talk to everyone real soon...
>
> Bob from Kansas City
>

### Marvelous! And as someone more oriented towards the hardwood forests out
east, I can't help but notice the excellent hats you all were wearing -- BOY
does that become important in those blue, blue skies out there!


--- In backpackingwithchildren@yahoogroups.com, Bob Blakey <kerflop@...> wrote:
>
> These are some great photos...  Thanks for sharing.
>
> On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Joe Martinez <joe@...> wrote:
>
> > http://outdoors.webshots.com/album/573804023OvWgoX

These are some great photos...  Thanks for sharing.

On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Joe Martinez <joe@...> wrote:

>
>
> Last week, I took by boys Calvin (almost 10) and Alex (almost 7)
> backpacking in the Emigrant Wilderness for 4 nights, 5 days. It was an
> excellent trip. Here are the photos:
>
> http://outdoors.webshots.com/album/573804023OvWgoX
>
> -Joe
>
>
>



--
Bob Blakey


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Last week, I took by boys Calvin (almost 10) and Alex (almost 7) backpacking in
the Emigrant Wilderness for 4 nights, 5 days.  It was an excellent trip.  Here
are the photos:

http://outdoors.webshots.com/album/573804023OvWgoX

-Joe

Hello fellow parents...  Just want to introduce myself and my situation.  I am a
father of two great kids, 9 yo boy and 11 yo daughter, and husband to a
wonderful young lady.  My son and I love getting outdoors when ever we can.  We
go hiking, camping and swiming but have never seriouly backpacked out to the
backcountry.  We have been experimenting with backpacking at a local state park
that has some walk to campsites.  The site is about 300 yards from where you
park and into thick woods.  We have been carrying limited supplies and food.  We
hike the trails at this park, about 4 miles each day over a weekend.   Not bad
so far, but we are working to improve our equipment and add to it with packs,
bags and shelters.  Looking forward to the groups recommendations and
information.

Talk to everyone real soon...

Bob from Kansas City

Thank You will look into what you suggest. Ed

--- In backpackingwithchildren@yahoogroups.com, "sloetoe" <sloetoe@...> wrote:
>
> And I somehow forgot to mention Sierra Trading Post!!! for premium stuff at
(sometimes) bargain basement prices. Google away!
>
>
> --- In backpackingwithchildren@yahoogroups.com, "sloetoe" <sloetoe@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In backpackingwithchildren@yahoogroups.com, "Edwardo Rodriguez"
<ed_rodriguez52@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thank Every one for your wonderful ideas. For  now look like I be going
fleece went to REI and saw some thing that might work or me. We are getting her
a fleece outfit both jacket and pants and a fleece sleeping bag liner and roll
that up. Next year we see about going more high tech.
> >
> > ### As fleece is just a *wonderful* item, don't be surprised if your
high-tech solution IS fleece. But for fleece (and this may not work for you,
ed), there are many options to escape the premium prices of REI-ville. (And no
offense to REI intended -- I've been a member since 1979.) So! Cheaper than
REI??
> >
> > 1) Campmor: they sell stuff under their own label, some of which is Malden
Mills Polarfleece or Windstopper -- from the great Massachusetts company that
makes buying at a premium price worth every penny.
> >
> > 2) KTarWallgetmart: Generic stuff which I have purchased, used, and found
worthy. AND cheap. Including blankets, pullovers, vests, etc.
> >
> > 3) Secondhand stores: Goodwill, Salvation Army, etc, BOY you can find Eddie
Bauer/LLBean stuff in there, with the tags, for $2.00. Been there, done that.
> >
> > 4) SEWING fleece is as easy as it gets -- I actually went on one
test-overnight with things safety-pinned together!!! -- so sewing *itself* is
kind of optional. But purchasing a simple fleece blanket will often be cheaper
than purchasing fleece from a fabric store.
> >
> > With Warm Fuzzies for you all..
> > sloetoe
> >
>

And I somehow forgot to mention Sierra Trading Post!!! for premium stuff at
(sometimes) bargain basement prices. Google away!


--- In backpackingwithchildren@yahoogroups.com, "sloetoe" <sloetoe@...> wrote:
>
> --- In backpackingwithchildren@yahoogroups.com, "Edwardo Rodriguez"
<ed_rodriguez52@> wrote:
> >
> > Thank Every one for your wonderful ideas. For  now look like I be going
fleece went to REI and saw some thing that might work or me. We are getting her
a fleece outfit both jacket and pants and a fleece sleeping bag liner and roll
that up. Next year we see about going more high tech.
>
> ### As fleece is just a *wonderful* item, don't be surprised if your high-tech
solution IS fleece. But for fleece (and this may not work for you, ed), there
are many options to escape the premium prices of REI-ville. (And no offense to
REI intended -- I've been a member since 1979.) So! Cheaper than REI??
>
> 1) Campmor: they sell stuff under their own label, some of which is Malden
Mills Polarfleece or Windstopper -- from the great Massachusetts company that
makes buying at a premium price worth every penny.
>
> 2) KTarWallgetmart: Generic stuff which I have purchased, used, and found
worthy. AND cheap. Including blankets, pullovers, vests, etc.
>
> 3) Secondhand stores: Goodwill, Salvation Army, etc, BOY you can find Eddie
Bauer/LLBean stuff in there, with the tags, for $2.00. Been there, done that.
>
> 4) SEWING fleece is as easy as it gets -- I actually went on one
test-overnight with things safety-pinned together!!! -- so sewing *itself* is
kind of optional. But purchasing a simple fleece blanket will often be cheaper
than purchasing fleece from a fabric store.
>
> With Warm Fuzzies for you all..
> sloetoe
>

I wasn't sure about the locale or the dates, and so held off until I confirmed a
good way to get there but, simply put, THE best advice I know of (outside of
immediate experience) is found by going to our group's website, hitting the
email/archive search window, and entering  "diaper Emma" (without the quotes).

Over 100 messages of wisdom from Our Queen.




sloetoe

--- In backpackingwithchildren@yahoogroups.com, "Edwardo Rodriguez"
<ed_rodriguez52@...> wrote:
>
> Thank Every one for your wonderful ideas. For  now look like I be going fleece
went to REI and saw some thing that might work or me. We are getting her a
fleece outfit both jacket and pants and a fleece sleeping bag liner and roll
that up. Next year we see about going more high tech.

### As fleece is just a *wonderful* item, don't be surprised if your high-tech
solution IS fleece. But for fleece (and this may not work for you, ed), there
are many options to escape the premium prices of REI-ville. (And no offense to
REI intended -- I've been a member since 1979.) So! Cheaper than REI??

1) Campmor: they sell stuff under their own label, some of which is Malden Mills
Polarfleece or Windstopper -- from the great Massachusetts company that makes
buying at a premium price worth every penny.

2) KTarWallgetmart: Generic stuff which I have purchased, used, and found
worthy. AND cheap. Including blankets, pullovers, vests, etc.

3) Secondhand stores: Goodwill, Salvation Army, etc, BOY you can find Eddie
Bauer/LLBean stuff in there, with the tags, for $2.00. Been there, done that.

4) SEWING fleece is as easy as it gets -- I actually went on one test-overnight
with things safety-pinned together!!! -- so sewing *itself* is kind of optional.
But purchasing a simple fleece blanket will often be cheaper than purchasing
fleece from a fabric store.

With Warm Fuzzies for you all..
sloetoe

Thank Every one for your wonderful ideas. For  now look like I be going fleece
went to REI and saw some thing that might work or me. We are getting her a
fleece outfit both jacket and pants and a fleece sleeping bag liner and roll
that up. Next year we see about going more high tech. It is my wish that my
dauther and her child fall in love with the back country. thank you again your
in the back country~Ed

--- In backpackingwithchildren@yahoogroups.com, Jenn Von Bork <dr.jackalope@...>
wrote:
>
> We had Feathered Friends make us a custom bag. They said it was the smallest
> one they ever made. I figured for the time, effort, and energy it would take
> to buy, sew and try to stuff a homemade bag, $150 was a really reasonable
> price. Great company!
>
> On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 10:15 PM, Edwardo Rodriguez <
> ed_rodriguez52@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > How do you guy keep the little one warm during the night. Each time I took
> > her camping she seams to get cold. She like to move around as she sleep. I
> > was thinking to open up my bag like a blanket and try it that way. Any
> > ideas.
> > Thank You
> > ~ Ed
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

We had Feathered Friends make us a custom bag. They said it was the smallest
one they ever made. I figured for the time, effort, and energy it would take
to buy, sew and try to stuff a homemade bag, $150 was a really reasonable
price. Great company!

On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 10:15 PM, Edwardo Rodriguez <
ed_rodriguez52@...> wrote:

>
>
> How do you guy keep the little one warm during the night. Each time I took
> her camping she seams to get cold. She like to move around as she sleep. I
> was thinking to open up my bag like a blanket and try it that way. Any
> ideas.
> Thank You
> ~ Ed
>
>
>


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--- In backpackingwithchildren@yahoogroups.com, Noelle Schwartz <nps2@...>
wrote:
>
>  We dressed the kids in fleece top and bottom and then in a snowsuit
> with down boots and mitts, and a balaclava if it was bitter cold. Yes
> even in july ...



### Balaclavas are worth their weight in GOLD, even in July, yep!


(Come to think of it, even when I'm going ultralight (the summertime pack of 5
pounds or so!), I carry one for myself -- silk or fleece.)

--- In backpackingwithchildren@yahoogroups.com, "Edwardo Rodriguez"
<ed_rodriguez52@...> wrote:
>
> How do you guy keep the little one warm during the night. Each time I took her
camping she seams to get cold. She like to move around as she sleep. I was
thinking to open up my bag like a blanket and try it that way. Any ideas.
>  Thank You
>   ~ Ed
>
### Our guys were a little undersized, so even at 3 years old, we could fit one
of them and an adult in an adult mountain bag inside of a bivy sac. Your idea of
opening your bag to be quiltish is right along this line. (Just be prepared that
as kids tend to "travel" when asleep????, well, you'll find the blanket getting
kicked off, or find the kid at 90° to you[!!!] a couple of times through the
night. If you're prepared for it, you can smile, adjust as necessary, and roll
over with a {great} smile..... Night-night!