Thanks for your edits. My Internet is down right now so I will get I it as soon
as possible.  Thanks again

--- In backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com, "the_fish_guy"  wrote:
>
> Alex,
>
> Nice report!  Just a few items below for your attention, then feel free to
upload.  Catch you on the LTR!
>
> Mike
>
> I have carried the day pack on many different occasions. There has been lots
of
> day hikes, a few backpacking trips, and a number of times when the pack was
used
> as a makeshift shopping bag at my local supermarket.
> EDIT:  There have been . . .
>
> I took the pack on 3 trips to the Mt. Baldy Wilderness Area, south of Tucson,
> Arizona. On each trip I covered fro 9 mi to 15 mi (14 km to 24 km) in varying
> conditions of sunny and dry to light and down pouring rain.
> EDIT:  On each trip I covered from . . .
>  The Temperature ranged from 7 F to 40F (-14 C to 4 C)
> and the conditions left me in the fog and rain the entire time.
> EDIT:  temperature (doesn't need to be capitalized)
>
> I often
> load it with a base layer (1pair pants and 1shirt), . . .
> EDIT:  there should be a space after the digit 1 in both cases.
>
>
> I was a little bummed when my collapsable water bottle didn't fit securely in
> the small compression straps on the front of the pack.
> EDIT:  spelling . . . collapsible
>
>
> The lightweight material that constructs this pack is a lot more comfortable
> than I had suspected.
> Comment:  This sentence sounds funny to me.  You might try "The lightweight
material this pack is constructed with is a lot more comfortable than I had
expected."
>
>

Thanks Kathy!  See you in a few months.
 
Brian


________________________________
  From: Kathy Waters <kathy@...>
To: 'Brian Hartman' <bhart1426@...>
Cc: BackpackGearTesters@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2013 1:00 PM
Subject: [backpackgeartesters] EDIT:  FR - Obermeyer Kestral Jacket - Brian
Hartman


 

Brian,

Sorry for the delay in this edit but I'm still trying to catch up after
ORWM.  Thank you for an excellent report!  I only have two very minor
additions, so please remember to delete your test file when you correct and
upload your report.

Thanks and I'll see you (more promptly, I hope) in two months!

Kathy

Please help support me in my 2nd Tubbs' Romp to Stomp out Breast Cancer
Snowshoe Race, March 2, 2013.  You can donate at
http://tinyurl.com/bem2xm4> http://tinyurl.com/bem2xm4. THANKS!

__________________________________________________________
______________

I hiked several hundred yards through heavy cold rain while water beaded up
and rolled off of the jacket.

EDIT:  And metric  - "several hundred yards (meters)".

Despite hiking off-trail through thorny, bristly brush and plowing through
low tree limbs and branches, the Kestral looks great and has only a few
small scratches that are hardly noticeable from more than a few feet away.

EDIT:  And metric - "more than a few feet (a meter) away"

From: Brian Hartman [mailto:mailto:bhart1426%40yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 5:10 PM
To: mailto:backpackgeartesters%40yahoogroups.com
Cc: Kathy Waters
Subject: FR - Obermeyer Kestral Jacket - Brian Hartman

Hi Kathy,

Thanks for all the work you did at ORWM 2013.  Sounds like things were
really busy.  Hope you had a good time as well.

Below is my Field Report for the Obermeyer Kestral Jacket. The link to my
HTML report is
http://www.backpackgeartest.org/reviews/test/TESTS/FR%20-%20Obermeyer%20Kest
ral%20Jacket%20-%20Brian%20Hartman/

http://snurl.com/2690iid

Thanks,

Brian

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Sorry to inform the applicants but the test of the Super Armadillo Nano
Gaiters has been cancelled/postponed for now due to a shortage of product.



Thanks to all who applied.



Kathy



Please help support me in my 2nd Tubbs' Romp to Stomp out Breast Cancer
Snowshoe Race, March 2, 2013.  You can donate at http://tinyurl.com/bem2xm4.
THANKS!







[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Uploaded version can be found here: http://tinyurl.com/atp3sa2
Text only version is below.

Please note that in addition to the LTR section, I went back and edited the FR
section to reflect comments that I received from Ray and other BGT staff. 
Specifically I rephrased my criticism of the cramped space to acknowledge that
two people can indeed fit, although with some difficulty.  Furthermore, I
originally found the tent very cold and planned to do the LTR in March when it
got warmer.  Because I did the LTR in January (to meet the deadline as well as
to see how it performs in the winter), I removed all statements about my March
plans from the FR.

Thank you Kathy, Ray, Richard, and Mike for helping me get this across the
finish line.


NEMO OBI 2P TENT
TEST SERIES BY ANDREI GIRENKOV
LTR
February 10, 2013

TESTER INFORMATION

NAME: Andrei Girenkov
EMAIL: agirenkov[AT]yahoo[DOT]com
AGE: 31
LOCATION: New York, New York, USA
GENDER: M
HEIGHT: 5' 10" (1.78 m)
WEIGHT: 150 lb (68.00 kg)

I have been backpacking for 6 years, mostly 3-season weekend trips in the
Adirondacks, and other parks in the Northeastern

US. Additionally, I try to take at least one 5-7 day trip each summer to other
destinations in Canada, Western United

States and Central America. I use lightweight gear on a budget. My multi-day
pack weight is around 20-25 lb (9-11kg). I

enjoy sleeping comfortably and cooking a hot meal at night


INITIAL REPORT

PRODUCT INFORMATION & SPECIFICATIONS

Manufacturer: NEMO Equipment Inc.
Year of Manufacture: 2012
Manufacturer's Website: <<HYPERLINK GOES HERE - "http://www.nemoequipment.com/"
LINK TEXT =

"http://www.nemoequipment.com/">>
MSRP: Tent: $389.95, Footprint: $49.95

Listed Weight:
Minimum tent weight (just tent body, fly, poles): 3 lb 0 oz (1360 g)
Packed weight  (everything included in the package): 3 lb 10 oz (1644 g)
Footprint: 8.6 oz (245 g)

  <<IMAGE GOES HERE. ALT TEXT = "Packed Tent"  IMAGE CAPTION = "Tent packed in
its compression sack.">>

Measured Weight:
Tent realistically packed (body, fly, poles, guy lines, stakes, repair kit,
stuff sacks): 3 lb 6.6 oz  (1605 g)
Footprint: 8.6 oz (245 g)

Listed Interior Height: 40 in (102 cm)
Listed Floor Dimensions 84 x 50 in (213 x 127 cm)
Verified Accurate

Listed Area: 27 sq ft (2.5 sq m)
Listed Vestibules Area: 18 sq ft (1.7 sq m)
Listed Packed Size: 7.5 in length x 6 in diameter (19 x 15 cm)
Measured Packed Size (after opening and repacking): 10.5 x 6.5 in (27 x 16.5 cm)

Fly / Vestibule Fabric:  20D Polyurethane Treated Nylon
Floor Fabric: 30D Polyurethane Treated Nylon
Footprint Fabric: 70D Polyurethane Treated Nylon

Manufacturer's Description:

NEMO bills the Obi tent as a lightweight, carefully designed, "finely tuned
instruments."  The company states that every

piece of material utilized serves for a purpose, and not an extra ounce of
weight was used to accomplish this task.



INITIAL IMPRESSIONS

The package included 3 stuff sacks which contained the main NEMO Obi 2P Tent
(hereafter called Obi 2P or simply the tent),

the poles, and a footprint.

The first thing that struck me was the small size of the tent itself.  As you
can see from the photograph, the initial size

of the compressed tent is about as long as a  men's size 10 US (44 EU) shoe and
about twice as wide.  The tent poles came

in an elongated stuff sack that physically clips to the tent's compression sack.

The manufacturer was kind enough to include a footprint as well in a separate
mesh bag.  This accessory normally retails

for an additional $50. It weighs in at a hefty 8.6 oz (245 g) - a significant
portion of the overall weight given the

manufacturer's stated goal of not wasting a single ounce.


TRYING IT OUT

<<IMAGE GOES HERE. ALT TEXT = "Hub and Clip"  IMAGE CAPTION = "Hub and Clip">>
The Obi 2P uses a pole and hub system. The poles now are GREEN anodized DAC
Featherlite NSL.  DAC describes this as a new

process for anodizing poles that minimizes the use of toxic chemicals.  The
center pole extends to a hub at each end.  Two

poles extend from each hub to the corners of the tent, forming an elongated X.

The poles end in a small metal ball which goes into a socket at each corner of
the tent.   Once the poles are erected, the

tent clips to them with plastic twist clips. The twist makes it very easy to
clip on, and the shape forces the pole into

the deepest part of the hook so they don't slide down.  Here is a photo of the
initial tent setup and a closeup of a pole

hub with an attached twist clip.


At each corner of the tent is a mechanism called a "Jake's Foot".   It is
designed to allow the poles, fly and footprint to

quickly and securely attach to the tent.  This is quite a handy mechanism once
you know how to use it, however the

instructions it comes with are limited to 4 pictures without any words, akin to
IKEA assembly instructions.  After about 10

minutes of fumbling about with the fly and the foot print I had to watch a video
online to see how to use it.

The Jake's foot  without any attachments is pictured below.  The poles snap into
the ball socket in the middle of the

Jake's foot.  Then the fly snaps into place with the little hook facing down on
the outermost cross member of the Jake's

foot.  Then the footprint snaps in with the hook facing up on the innermost
cross member.

<<IMAGE GOES HERE. ALT TEXT = "Fully Attached Jake's Foot"  IMAGE CAPTION =
"Fully Attached Jake's Foot">> <<IMAGE GOES

HERE. ALT TEXT = "Empty Jake's Foot"  IMAGE CAPTION = "Empty Jake's Foot">>

The floor of the Obi 2P is made of lightweight 30D Polyurethane (PU) nylon.  An
optional 70D PU nylon footprint can be

attached below. The walls are ultra lightweight 20D PU nylon for the first half
up from the floor and then a switch to a

No-See-Um polyester mesh. There are two wide D-shaped doors.  NEMO provides a
loop and toggle to secure each door so it

doesn't flap in the breeze when open.  There is a single very small storage
pocket behind one of the doors.

The green rain fly is made of the same ultral ightweight 20D PU nylon as the
walls.  As mentioned above, it snaps to the

tent via a Jake's Foot in each corner. The fly has two vestibules with D-shaped
doors and storm flaps over the zippers.

The Vestibules are very roomy, which I believe will come in very handy given the
tight dimensions of this tent.  The fly

does not extend all the way to the ground on all sides.  On the head end of the
tent the fly stops half way down the walls,

covering only the mesh portion.  This allows the tent to ventilate.  There are
no other vents on the fly itself.

<<IMAGE GOES HERE. ALT TEXT = "Set Up Tent"  IMAGE CAPTION = "Initial Set Up">>

SUMMARY

NEMO set out to make a compact, lightweight and comfortable two-person tent, in
which every detail serves a purpose.  The

initial impression is that they succeeded at least on the first two counts,
particularly on packed size.  The tent shaves a

pound of weight and about 50% of packed size from my current ultra light tent
that was state of the art when I bought it 6

years ago.  The instructions for the new Jake's Foot system are not obvious at
first glance.  However setup became very

simple and quick once I looked at an instructional video online.  The jury is
still out on the comfort of this tent.  I

hope to answer that question in the Field and Long Term Reports.



<a name="FRPT">FIELD REPORT</a>

FIELD LOCATIONS AND CONDITIONS

I took the NEMO Obi 2P Tent out on three weekend trips in late September and
early October in upstate New York. One trip

was to the Sawtooth Ridge in the Adirondack Mountains, the second to Minnewaska
State Oark, and the third to the Catskill

Mountains.  The weather was mild and sunny on all three trips.  Daytime
temperatures were around 50 F (10 C).   The

temperature dropped below freezing on a single night during my October trip.

In order to minimize the weight of the tent, NEMO designers have eliminated
material or substituted a lightweight

alternative wherever possible.  Case in point, more than half of the body of the
tent is made from a mesh material.  While

this provides for great ventilation, and a  beautiful view of the stars on a
clear night, it also limits the temperature

range when the tent can be used.  I will take the tent out on a winter trip to
confirm this observation.

PERFORMANCE IN THE FIELD

<<IMAGE GOES HERE. ALT TEXT = "Mesh walls"  IMAGE CAPTION = "You can clearly see
the foliage through two layers of

mesh.">>Let me start off by saying that for the weather conditions of my field
test, the tent was just about perfect. It

was extremely light and compact and very well ventilated.   I carried it without
a rainfly because of the fair weather.

Sleeping in it felt very open - as if I was lying without a tent at all.  The
mesh disappeared into the night sky, and the

moon and stars were my roof!  This setup worked out very well for all but my
last night outside, when the temperature

dipped below freezing.  Without a fly, it was very cold, even with a 20 F (-7 C)
rated sleeping bag.

One aspect of this tent that users should be aware of is its compact interior
space.  This version of the Obi is advertised

as a two person tent.  Two pads will fit into the tent, however you will get to
know your tent mate very closely!  Here is

an overhead view of my regular-sized (20 in or 51 cm wide) Therm-a-Rest Neo Air
which is centered inside the tent.  When I

sleep on my back, I occupy the entire width of the pad.  I could just fit two of
them inside the tent side by side, and

sleeping on either one required touching the wall of the tent with my body.  
Without a fly this was not an issue.  In a

future test I will try such an arrangement with the fly on to see if
condensation becomes an issue.  With two people inside

this tent there is no room for any personal items other than what will fit under
your pillow or inside the single pocket.

The good news is that this tent is light enough to be carried on a solo trip. 
For a single sleeper, it felt like my own

personal Taj Mahal. There was a lot of room on both sides of my sleeping bag for
a flashlight, book, clothes and other

personal items as well as plenty of headroom above me.  On these trips I left my
pack and shoes unprotected outside

overnight.  In my next test I would like to check if there is enough space in
the vestibule to keep my pack, or if I have

to sacrifice more internal space.

<<IMAGE GOES HERE. ALT TEXT = "Overhead view"  IMAGE CAPTION = "Single or double
wide?  You be the judge.">><<IMAGE GOES

HERE. ALT TEXT = "Inside View"  IMAGE CAPTION = "A solo Taj Mahal!">>

SUMMARY

This is a very light tent.  This advantage is enhanced even further by the
ability to leave the rain fly at home and save

another pound or so.  In this configuration, there is great ventilation and no
condensation whatsoever.  Additionally, all

the materials and construction are topnotch.  There are no loose threads or
seams, and the footprint, tent, and fly line up

perfectly with each other for quick and easy assembly.

I do have a concern about the interior room if used as a two-person tent.  It is
spacious for one person, but becomes

cramped if two people are sleeping inside.   Additionally I would like to see
whether this tent can be used in the winter

with the fly pitched.



LONG-TERM REPORT

LONG-TERM TEST LOCATIONS AND CONDITIONS

In the fall, I used the Obi as a solo tent, and pitched it without a fly.  My
field review left several questions

unanswered.  During my subsequent trips I wanted to find out how the tent will
perform with a fly in cold weather, whether

condensation is a problem, and how comfortable it is for two person use.  This
long term review answers those questions.

I carried the tent with me on a two night snowshoe trip to the Rockingham
Recreational Trail in New Hampshire in January.

The round trip took me across approximately 52 mi (84 km) of 3 ft (91 cm) of
packed snow.  This is a rather flat trail that

follows an abandoned railroad line.  The elevation ranges from 250 to 400 ft (76
to 122 m) above sea level.  The weather

was clear to cloudy.  Temperature ranged from 4 to 17 F (-15 to -8 C).

PERFORMANCE IN THE FIELD

For this trip I was accompanied by a hiking buddy.  We pitched the tent with a
fly and both slept in it.  We used foam

pads, with a 4 season inflatable sleeping pad on top, and both slept in 0 F (-18
C) sleeping bags as well as in some winter

clothing.  We left our backpacks, boots, and snowshoes in the vestibule
overnight.

The tent provided adequate wind protection, and we did not experience any snow
drifting into the tent under the fly.

Although the temperatures were quite low, we had a very warm sleeping setup as
you can see above.  Neither one of us woke

up from cold temperature in the middle of the night.

There was a fair amount of condensation in the form of frost that formed on the
mesh overnight.  This is typical of winter

camping because the cold temperature cause exhaled moisture to freeze almost
immediately.  I cannot blame the tent in this

case.

The biggest challenge for us was fitting all the winter sleeping gear into the
tent, as well as finding room for snowshoes

and backpacks in the vestibule.  The cramped two person sleeping conditions I
described in the field review are only

exacerbated by the need to carry bulkier winter gear.

SUMMARY

The NEMO Obi 2P is the lightest, most compact two person tent that I have
personally had the pleasure of using.  The setup

is a breeze once you learn how to do it, and the packed size and weight leave
very little to be desired.  The tent is very

well constructed and ventilated.  Its only weak spot is the limited interior
room.  I would not hesitate to recommend it as

a one or two person three season tent.  However I would not use it as a two
person tent in the winter given the extra space

needed to accommodate winter gear.

Pros:
Lightweight.
Compact.
Two nice size vestibules.
Transparent mesh allows for great view of sky at night.
Easy to set up.
Very spacious for a single person.

Cons:
Cramped for two people.
Only one interior pocket.



This report was created with the BGT Report Generator.
Copyright 2013.  All rights reserved.

I just caught the fact that the LTR has the wrong date on it.  Does anyone know
how to update the date in the BGT report writer?  I don't see a field for it.

--- In backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com, "agirenkov"  wrote:
>
> Uploaded version can be found here: http://tinyurl.com/atp3sa2
> Text only version is below.
>
> Please note that in addition to the LTR section, I went back and edited the FR
section to reflect comments that I received from Ray and other BGT staff. 
Specifically I rephrased my criticism of the cramped space to acknowledge that
two people can indeed fit, although with some difficulty.  Furthermore, I
originally found the tent very cold and planned to do the LTR in March when it
got warmer.  Because I did the LTR in January (to meet the deadline as well as
to see how it performs in the winter), I removed all statements about my March
plans from the FR.
>
> Thank you Kathy, Ray, Richard, and Mike for helping me get this across the
finish line.
>
>
> NEMO OBI 2P TENT
> TEST SERIES BY ANDREI GIRENKOV
> LTR
> February 10, 2013
>
> TESTER INFORMATION
>
> NAME: Andrei Girenkov
> EMAIL: agirenkov[AT]yahoo[DOT]com
> AGE: 31
> LOCATION: New York, New York, USA
> GENDER: M
> HEIGHT: 5' 10" (1.78 m)
> WEIGHT: 150 lb (68.00 kg)
>
> I have been backpacking for 6 years, mostly 3-season weekend trips in the
Adirondacks, and other parks in the Northeastern
>
> US. Additionally, I try to take at least one 5-7 day trip each summer to other
destinations in Canada, Western United
>
> States and Central America. I use lightweight gear on a budget. My multi-day
pack weight is around 20-25 lb (9-11kg). I
>
> enjoy sleeping comfortably and cooking a hot meal at night
>
>
> INITIAL REPORT
>
> PRODUCT INFORMATION & SPECIFICATIONS
>
> Manufacturer: NEMO Equipment Inc.
> Year of Manufacture: 2012
> Manufacturer's Website: <

> "http://www.nemoequipment.com/">>
> MSRP: Tent: $389.95, Footprint: $49.95
>
> Listed Weight:
> Minimum tent weight (just tent body, fly, poles): 3 lb 0 oz (1360 g)
> Packed weight  (everything included in the package): 3 lb 10 oz (1644 g)
> Footprint: 8.6 oz (245 g)
>
>  < >
>
> Measured Weight:
> Tent realistically packed (body, fly, poles, guy lines, stakes, repair kit,
stuff sacks): 3 lb 6.6 oz  (1605 g)
> Footprint: 8.6 oz (245 g)
>
> Listed Interior Height: 40 in (102 cm)
> Listed Floor Dimensions 84 x 50 in (213 x 127 cm)
> Verified Accurate
>
> Listed Area: 27 sq ft (2.5 sq m)
> Listed Vestibules Area: 18 sq ft (1.7 sq m)
> Listed Packed Size: 7.5 in length x 6 in diameter (19 x 15 cm)
> Measured Packed Size (after opening and repacking): 10.5 x 6.5 in (27 x 16.5
cm)
>
> Fly / Vestibule Fabric:  20D Polyurethane Treated Nylon
> Floor Fabric: 30D Polyurethane Treated Nylon
> Footprint Fabric: 70D Polyurethane Treated Nylon
>
> Manufacturer's Description:
>
> NEMO bills the Obi tent as a lightweight, carefully designed, "finely tuned
instruments."  The company states that every
>
> piece of material utilized serves for a purpose, and not an extra ounce of
weight was used to accomplish this task.
>
>
>
> INITIAL IMPRESSIONS
>
> The package included 3 stuff sacks which contained the main NEMO Obi 2P Tent
(hereafter called Obi 2P or simply the tent),
>
> the poles, and a footprint.
>
> The first thing that struck me was the small size of the tent itself.  As you
can see from the photograph, the initial size
>
> of the compressed tent is about as long as a  men's size 10 US (44 EU) shoe
and about twice as wide.  The tent poles came
>
> in an elongated stuff sack that physically clips to the tent's compression
sack.
>
> The manufacturer was kind enough to include a footprint as well in a separate
mesh bag.  This accessory normally retails
>
> for an additional $50. It weighs in at a hefty 8.6 oz (245 g) - a significant
portion of the overall weight given the
>
> manufacturer's stated goal of not wasting a single ounce.
>
>
> TRYING IT OUT
>
> < >
> The Obi 2P uses a pole and hub system. The poles now are GREEN anodized DAC
Featherlite NSL.  DAC describes this as a new
>
> process for anodizing poles that minimizes the use of toxic chemicals.  The
center pole extends to a hub at each end.  Two
>
> poles extend from each hub to the corners of the tent, forming an elongated X.
>
> The poles end in a small metal ball which goes into a socket at each corner of
the tent.   Once the poles are erected, the
>
> tent clips to them with plastic twist clips. The twist makes it very easy to
clip on, and the shape forces the pole into
>
> the deepest part of the hook so they don't slide down.  Here is a photo of the
initial tent setup and a closeup of a pole
>
> hub with an attached twist clip.
>
>
> At each corner of the tent is a mechanism called a "Jake's Foot".   It is
designed to allow the poles, fly and footprint to
>
> quickly and securely attach to the tent.  This is quite a handy mechanism once
you know how to use it, however the
>
> instructions it comes with are limited to 4 pictures without any words, akin
to IKEA assembly instructions.  After about 10
>
> minutes of fumbling about with the fly and the foot print I had to watch a
video online to see how to use it.
>
> The Jake's foot  without any attachments is pictured below.  The poles snap
into the ball socket in the middle of the
>
> Jake's foot.  Then the fly snaps into place with the little hook facing down
on the outermost cross member of the Jake's
>
> foot.  Then the footprint snaps in with the hook facing up on the innermost
cross member.
>
> < > <

> HERE. ALT TEXT = "Empty Jake's Foot"  IMAGE CAPTION = "Empty Jake's Foot">>
>
> The floor of the Obi 2P is made of lightweight 30D Polyurethane (PU) nylon. 
An optional 70D PU nylon footprint can be
>
> attached below. The walls are ultra lightweight 20D PU nylon for the first
half up from the floor and then a switch to a
>
> No-See-Um polyester mesh. There are two wide D-shaped doors.  NEMO provides a
loop and toggle to secure each door so it
>
> doesn't flap in the breeze when open.  There is a single very small storage
pocket behind one of the doors.
>
> The green rain fly is made of the same ultral ightweight 20D PU nylon as the
walls.  As mentioned above, it snaps to the
>
> tent via a Jake's Foot in each corner. The fly has two vestibules with
D-shaped doors and storm flaps over the zippers.
>
> The Vestibules are very roomy, which I believe will come in very handy given
the tight dimensions of this tent.  The fly
>
> does not extend all the way to the ground on all sides.  On the head end of
the tent the fly stops half way down the walls,
>
> covering only the mesh portion.  This allows the tent to ventilate.  There are
no other vents on the fly itself.
>
> < >
>
> SUMMARY
>
> NEMO set out to make a compact, lightweight and comfortable two-person tent,
in which every detail serves a purpose.  The
>
> initial impression is that they succeeded at least on the first two counts,
particularly on packed size.  The tent shaves a
>
> pound of weight and about 50% of packed size from my current ultra light tent
that was state of the art when I bought it 6
>
> years ago.  The instructions for the new Jake's Foot system are not obvious at
first glance.  However setup became very
>
> simple and quick once I looked at an instructional video online.  The jury is
still out on the comfort of this tent.  I
>
> hope to answer that question in the Field and Long Term Reports.
>
>
>
> <a rel="nofollow" name="FRPT">FIELD REPORT</a>
>
> FIELD LOCATIONS AND CONDITIONS
>
> I took the NEMO Obi 2P Tent out on three weekend trips in late September and
early October in upstate New York. One trip
>
> was to the Sawtooth Ridge in the Adirondack Mountains, the second to
Minnewaska State Oark, and the third to the Catskill
>
> Mountains.  The weather was mild and sunny on all three trips.  Daytime
temperatures were around 50 F (10 C).   The
>
> temperature dropped below freezing on a single night during my October trip.
>
> In order to minimize the weight of the tent, NEMO designers have eliminated
material or substituted a lightweight
>
> alternative wherever possible.  Case in point, more than half of the body of
the tent is made from a mesh material.  While
>
> this provides for great ventilation, and a  beautiful view of the stars on a
clear night, it also limits the temperature
>
> range when the tent can be used.  I will take the tent out on a winter trip to
confirm this observation.
>
> PERFORMANCE IN THE FIELD
>
> < >Let me start off by saying that for the weather conditions of my field
test, the tent was just about perfect. It
>
> was extremely light and compact and very well ventilated.   I carried it
without a rainfly because of the fair weather.
>
> Sleeping in it felt very open - as if I was lying without a tent at all.  The
mesh disappeared into the night sky, and the
>
> moon and stars were my roof!  This setup worked out very well for all but my
last night outside, when the temperature
>
> dipped below freezing.  Without a fly, it was very cold, even with a 20 F (-7
C) rated sleeping bag.
>
> One aspect of this tent that users should be aware of is its compact interior
space.  This version of the Obi is advertised
>
> as a two person tent.  Two pads will fit into the tent, however you will get
to know your tent mate very closely!  Here is
>
> an overhead view of my regular-sized (20 in or 51 cm wide) Therm-a-Rest Neo
Air which is centered inside the tent.  When I
>
> sleep on my back, I occupy the entire width of the pad.  I could just fit two
of them inside the tent side by side, and
>
> sleeping on either one required touching the wall of the tent with my body.  
Without a fly this was not an issue.  In a
>
> future test I will try such an arrangement with the fly on to see if
condensation becomes an issue.  With two people inside
>
> this tent there is no room for any personal items other than what will fit
under your pillow or inside the single pocket.
>
> The good news is that this tent is light enough to be carried on a solo trip. 
For a single sleeper, it felt like my own
>
> personal Taj Mahal. There was a lot of room on both sides of my sleeping bag
for a flashlight, book, clothes and other
>
> personal items as well as plenty of headroom above me.  On these trips I left
my pack and shoes unprotected outside
>
> overnight.  In my next test I would like to check if there is enough space in
the vestibule to keep my pack, or if I have
>
> to sacrifice more internal space.
>
> < ><

> HERE. ALT TEXT = "Inside View"  IMAGE CAPTION = "A solo Taj Mahal!">>
>
> SUMMARY
>
> This is a very light tent.  This advantage is enhanced even further by the
ability to leave the rain fly at home and save
>
> another pound or so.  In this configuration, there is great ventilation and no
condensation whatsoever.  Additionally, all
>
> the materials and construction are topnotch.  There are no loose threads or
seams, and the footprint, tent, and fly line up
>
> perfectly with each other for quick and easy assembly.
>
> I do have a concern about the interior room if used as a two-person tent.  It
is spacious for one person, but becomes
>
> cramped if two people are sleeping inside.   Additionally I would like to see
whether this tent can be used in the winter
>
> with the fly pitched.
>
>
>
> LONG-TERM REPORT
>
> LONG-TERM TEST LOCATIONS AND CONDITIONS
>
> In the fall, I used the Obi as a solo tent, and pitched it without a fly.  My
field review left several questions
>
> unanswered.  During my subsequent trips I wanted to find out how the tent will
perform with a fly in cold weather, whether
>
> condensation is a problem, and how comfortable it is for two person use.  This
long term review answers those questions.
>
> I carried the tent with me on a two night snowshoe trip to the Rockingham
Recreational Trail in New Hampshire in January.
>
> The round trip took me across approximately 52 mi (84 km) of 3 ft (91 cm) of
packed snow.  This is a rather flat trail that
>
> follows an abandoned railroad line.  The elevation ranges from 250 to 400 ft
(76 to 122 m) above sea level.  The weather
>
> was clear to cloudy.  Temperature ranged from 4 to 17 F (-15 to -8 C).
>
> PERFORMANCE IN THE FIELD
>
> For this trip I was accompanied by a hiking buddy.  We pitched the tent with a
fly and both slept in it.  We used foam
>
> pads, with a 4 season inflatable sleeping pad on top, and both slept in 0 F
(-18 C) sleeping bags as well as in some winter
>
> clothing.  We left our backpacks, boots, and snowshoes in the vestibule
overnight.
>
> The tent provided adequate wind protection, and we did not experience any snow
drifting into the tent under the fly.
>
> Although the temperatures were quite low, we had a very warm sleeping setup as
you can see above.  Neither one of us woke
>
> up from cold temperature in the middle of the night.
>
> There was a fair amount of condensation in the form of frost that formed on
the mesh overnight.  This is typical of winter
>
> camping because the cold temperature cause exhaled moisture to freeze almost
immediately.  I cannot blame the tent in this
>
> case.
>
> The biggest challenge for us was fitting all the winter sleeping gear into the
tent, as well as finding room for snowshoes
>
> and backpacks in the vestibule.  The cramped two person sleeping conditions I
described in the field review are only
>
> exacerbated by the need to carry bulkier winter gear.
>
> SUMMARY
>
> The NEMO Obi 2P is the lightest, most compact two person tent that I have
personally had the pleasure of using.  The setup
>
> is a breeze once you learn how to do it, and the packed size and weight leave
very little to be desired.  The tent is very
>
> well constructed and ventilated.  Its only weak spot is the limited interior
room.  I would not hesitate to recommend it as
>
> a one or two person three season tent.  However I would not use it as a two
person tent in the winter given the extra space
>
> needed to accommodate winter gear.
>
> Pros:
> Lightweight.
> Compact.
> Two nice size vestibules.
> Transparent mesh allows for great view of sky at night.
> Easy to set up.
> Very spacious for a single person.
>
> Cons:
> Cramped for two people.
> Only one interior pocket.
>
>
>
> This report was created with the BGT Report Generator.
> Copyright 2013.  All rights reserved.
>

Alex,

My apologies . . . I missed a few edits in my initial round.  Please see below,
and re-upload as soon as you're able.

Thanks!

Mike

<SNIP>

On each trip I covered fro 9 mi to 15 mi (14 km to 24 km) in varying conditions

EDIT: from

<SNIP>

The daypack was only on my back for a 6 mi (10 km) stretch, and was otherwise
filled with clothes and use as a dry bag

<SNIP>

EDIT: and "used" as

<SNIP>

I often load it with a base layer (1 pair pants and 1 shirt), a lightweight
synthetic down jacket

Edit: synthetic "fill" jacket

<END>

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From: backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of agirenkov
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 8:07 AM.


To: backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [backpackgeartesters] Re: LTR - NEMO Obi 2P Tent - Andrei Girenkov





I just caught the fact that the LTR has the wrong date on it. Does anyone
know how to update the date in the BGT report writer? I don't see a field
for it.

--- In backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:backpackgeartesters%40yahoogroups.com> , "agirenkov" wrote:
>
> Uploaded version can be found here: http://tinyurl.com/atp3sa2
> Text only version is below.
>
> Please note that in addition to the LTR section, I went back and edited
the FR section to reflect comments that I received from Ray and other BGT
staff. Specifically I rephrased my criticism of the cramped space to
acknowledge that two people can indeed fit, although with some difficulty.
Furthermore, I originally found the tent very cold and planned to do the LTR
in March when it got warmer. Because I did the LTR in January (to meet the
deadline as well as to see how it performs in the winter), I removed all
statements about my March plans from the FR.
>
> Thank you Kathy, Ray, Richard, and Mike for helping me get this across the
finish line.
>
>
> NEMO OBI 2P TENT
> TEST SERIES BY ANDREI GIRENKOV
> LTR
> February 10, 2013
>
> TESTER INFORMATION
>
> NAME: Andrei Girenkov
> EMAIL: agirenkov[AT]yahoo[DOT]com
> AGE: 31
> LOCATION: New York, New York, USA
> GENDER: M
> HEIGHT: 5' 10" (1.78 m)
> WEIGHT: 150 lb (68.00 kg)
>
> I have been backpacking for 6 years, mostly 3-season weekend trips in the
Adirondacks, and other parks in the Northeastern
>
> US. Additionally, I try to take at least one 5-7 day trip each summer to
other destinations in Canada, Western United
>
> States and Central America. I use lightweight gear on a budget. My
multi-day pack weight is around 20-25 lb (9-11kg). I
>
> enjoy sleeping comfortably and cooking a hot meal at night
>
>
> INITIAL REPORT
>
> PRODUCT INFORMATION & SPECIFICATIONS
>
> Manufacturer: NEMO Equipment Inc.
> Year of Manufacture: 2012
> Manufacturer's Website: <

> "http://www.nemoequipment.com/">>
> MSRP: Tent: $389.95, Footprint: $49.95
>
> Listed Weight:
> Minimum tent weight (just tent body, fly, poles): 3 lb 0 oz (1360 g)
> Packed weight (everything included in the package): 3 lb 10 oz (1644 g)
> Footprint: 8.6 oz (245 g)
>
> < >
>
> Measured Weight:
> Tent realistically packed (body, fly, poles, guy lines, stakes, repair
kit, stuff sacks): 3 lb 6.6 oz (1605 g)
> Footprint: 8.6 oz (245 g)
>
> Listed Interior Height: 40 in (102 cm)
> Listed Floor Dimensions 84 x 50 in (213 x 127 cm)
> Verified Accurate
>
> Listed Area: 27 sq ft (2.5 sq m)
> Listed Vestibules Area: 18 sq ft (1.7 sq m)
> Listed Packed Size: 7.5 in length x 6 in diameter (19 x 15 cm)
> Measured Packed Size (after opening and repacking): 10.5 x 6.5 in (27 x
16.5 cm)
>
> Fly / Vestibule Fabric: 20D Polyurethane Treated Nylon
> Floor Fabric: 30D Polyurethane Treated Nylon
> Footprint Fabric: 70D Polyurethane Treated Nylon
>
> Manufacturer's Description:
>
> NEMO bills the Obi tent as a lightweight, carefully designed, "finely
tuned instruments." The company states that every
>
> piece of material utilized serves for a purpose, and not an extra ounce of
weight was used to accomplish this task.
>
>
>
> INITIAL IMPRESSIONS
>
> The package included 3 stuff sacks which contained the main NEMO Obi 2P
Tent (hereafter called Obi 2P or simply the tent),
>
> the poles, and a footprint.
>
> The first thing that struck me was the small size of the tent itself. As
you can see from the photograph, the initial size
>
> of the compressed tent is about as long as a men's size 10 US (44 EU) shoe
and about twice as wide. The tent poles came
>
> in an elongated stuff sack that physically clips to the tent's compression
sack.
>
> The manufacturer was kind enough to include a footprint as well in a
separate mesh bag. This accessory normally retails
>
> for an additional $50. It weighs in at a hefty 8.6 oz (245 g) - a
significant portion of the overall weight given the
>
> manufacturer's stated goal of not wasting a single ounce.
>
>
> TRYING IT OUT
>
> < >
> The Obi 2P uses a pole and hub system. The poles now are GREEN anodized
DAC Featherlite NSL. DAC describes this as a new
>
> process for anodizing poles that minimizes the use of toxic chemicals. The
center pole extends to a hub at each end. Two
>
> poles extend from each hub to the corners of the tent, forming an
elongated X.
>
> The poles end in a small metal ball which goes into a socket at each
corner of the tent. Once the poles are erected, the
>
> tent clips to them with plastic twist clips. The twist makes it very easy
to clip on, and the shape forces the pole into
>
> the deepest part of the hook so they don't slide down. Here is a photo of
the initial tent setup and a closeup of a pole
>
> hub with an attached twist clip.
>
>
> At each corner of the tent is a mechanism called a "Jake's Foot". It is
designed to allow the poles, fly and footprint to
>
> quickly and securely attach to the tent. This is quite a handy mechanism
once you know how to use it, however the
>
> instructions it comes with are limited to 4 pictures without any words,
akin to IKEA assembly instructions. After about 10
>
> minutes of fumbling about with the fly and the foot print I had to watch a
video online to see how to use it.
>
> The Jake's foot without any attachments is pictured below. The poles snap
into the ball socket in the middle of the
>
> Jake's foot. Then the fly snaps into place with the little hook facing
down on the outermost cross member of the Jake's
>
> foot. Then the footprint snaps in with the hook facing up on the innermost
cross member.
>
> < > <

> HERE. ALT TEXT = "Empty Jake's Foot" IMAGE CAPTION = "Empty Jake's Foot">>
>
> The floor of the Obi 2P is made of lightweight 30D Polyurethane (PU)
nylon. An optional 70D PU nylon footprint can be
>
> attached below. The walls are ultra lightweight 20D PU nylon for the first
half up from the floor and then a switch to a
>
> No-See-Um polyester mesh. There are two wide D-shaped doors. NEMO provides
a loop and toggle to secure each door so it
>
> doesn't flap in the breeze when open. There is a single very small storage
pocket behind one of the doors.
>
> The green rain fly is made of the same ultral ightweight 20D PU nylon as
the walls. As mentioned above, it snaps to the
>
> tent via a Jake's Foot in each corner. The fly has two vestibules with
D-shaped doors and storm flaps over the zippers.
>
> The Vestibules are very roomy, which I believe will come in very handy
given the tight dimensions of this tent. The fly
>
> does not extend all the way to the ground on all sides. On the head end of
the tent the fly stops half way down the walls,
>
> covering only the mesh portion. This allows the tent to ventilate. There
are no other vents on the fly itself.
>
> < >
>
> SUMMARY
>
> NEMO set out to make a compact, lightweight and comfortable two-person
tent, in which every detail serves a purpose. The
>
> initial impression is that they succeeded at least on the first two
counts, particularly on packed size. The tent shaves a
>
> pound of weight and about 50% of packed size from my current ultra light
tent that was state of the art when I bought it 6
>
> years ago. The instructions for the new Jake's Foot system are not obvious
at first glance. However setup became very
>
> simple and quick once I looked at an instructional video online. The jury
is still out on the comfort of this tent. I
>
> hope to answer that question in the Field and Long Term Reports.
>
>
>
> FIELD REPORT
>
> FIELD LOCATIONS AND CONDITIONS
>
> I took the NEMO Obi 2P Tent out on three weekend trips in late September
and early October in upstate New York. One trip
>
> was to the Sawtooth Ridge in the Adirondack Mountains, the second to
Minnewaska State Oark, and the third to the Catskill
>
> Mountains. The weather was mild and sunny on all three trips. Daytime
temperatures were around 50 F (10 C). The
>
> temperature dropped below freezing on a single night during my October
trip.
>
> In order to minimize the weight of the tent, NEMO designers have
eliminated material or substituted a lightweight
>
> alternative wherever possible. Case in point, more than half of the body
of the tent is made from a mesh material. While
>
> this provides for great ventilation, and a beautiful view of the stars on
a clear night, it also limits the temperature
>
> range when the tent can be used. I will take the tent out on a winter trip
to confirm this observation.
>
> PERFORMANCE IN THE FIELD
>
> < >Let me start off by saying that for the weather conditions of my field
test, the tent was just about perfect. It
>
> was extremely light and compact and very well ventilated. I carried it
without a rainfly because of the fair weather.
>
> Sleeping in it felt very open - as if I was lying without a tent at all.
The mesh disappeared into the night sky, and the
>
> moon and stars were my roof! This setup worked out very well for all but
my last night outside, when the temperature
>
> dipped below freezing. Without a fly, it was very cold, even with a 20 F
(-7 C) rated sleeping bag.
>
> One aspect of this tent that users should be aware of is its compact
interior space. This version of the Obi is advertised
>
> as a two person tent. Two pads will fit into the tent, however you will
get to know your tent mate very closely! Here is
>
> an overhead view of my regular-sized (20 in or 51 cm wide) Therm-a-Rest
Neo Air which is centered inside the tent. When I
>
> sleep on my back, I occupy the entire width of the pad. I could just fit
two of them inside the tent side by side, and
>
> sleeping on either one required touching the wall of the tent with my
body. Without a fly this was not an issue. In a
>
> future test I will try such an arrangement with the fly on to see if
condensation becomes an issue. With two people inside
>
> this tent there is no room for any personal items other than what will fit
under your pillow or inside the single pocket.
>
> The good news is that this tent is light enough to be carried on a solo
trip. For a single sleeper, it felt like my own
>
> personal Taj Mahal. There was a lot of room on both sides of my sleeping
bag for a flashlight, book, clothes and other
>
> personal items as well as plenty of headroom above me. On these trips I
left my pack and shoes unprotected outside
>
> overnight. In my next test I would like to check if there is enough space
in the vestibule to keep my pack, or if I have
>
> to sacrifice more internal space.
>
> < ><

> HERE. ALT TEXT = "Inside View" IMAGE CAPTION = "A solo Taj Mahal!">>
>
> SUMMARY
>
> This is a very light tent. This advantage is enhanced even further by the
ability to leave the rain fly at home and save
>
> another pound or so. In this configuration, there is great ventilation and
no condensation whatsoever. Additionally, all
>
> the materials and construction are topnotch. There are no loose threads or
seams, and the footprint, tent, and fly line up
>
> perfectly with each other for quick and easy assembly.
>
> I do have a concern about the interior room if used as a two-person tent.
It is spacious for one person, but becomes
>
> cramped if two people are sleeping inside. Additionally I would like to
see whether this tent can be used in the winter
>
> with the fly pitched.
>
>
>
> LONG-TERM REPORT
>
> LONG-TERM TEST LOCATIONS AND CONDITIONS
>
> In the fall, I used the Obi as a solo tent, and pitched it without a fly.
My field review left several questions
>
> unanswered. During my subsequent trips I wanted to find out how the tent
will perform with a fly in cold weather, whether
>
> condensation is a problem, and how comfortable it is for two person use.
This long term review answers those questions.
>
> I carried the tent with me on a two night snowshoe trip to the Rockingham
Recreational Trail in New Hampshire in January.
>
> The round trip took me across approximately 52 mi (84 km) of 3 ft (91 cm)
of packed snow. This is a rather flat trail that
>
> follows an abandoned railroad line. The elevation ranges from 250 to 400
ft (76 to 122 m) above sea level. The weather
>
> was clear to cloudy. Temperature ranged from 4 to 17 F (-15 to -8 C).
>
> PERFORMANCE IN THE FIELD
>
> For this trip I was accompanied by a hiking buddy. We pitched the tent
with a fly and both slept in it. We used foam
>
> pads, with a 4 season inflatable sleeping pad on top, and both slept in 0
F (-18 C) sleeping bags as well as in some winter
>
> clothing. We left our backpacks, boots, and snowshoes in the vestibule
overnight.
>
> The tent provided adequate wind protection, and we did not experience any
snow drifting into the tent under the fly.
>
> Although the temperatures were quite low, we had a very warm sleeping
setup as you can see above. Neither one of us woke
>
> up from cold temperature in the middle of the night.
>
> There was a fair amount of condensation in the form of frost that formed
on the mesh overnight. This is typical of winter
>
> camping because the cold temperature cause exhaled moisture to freeze
almost immediately. I cannot blame the tent in this
>
> case.
>
> The biggest challenge for us was fitting all the winter sleeping gear into
the tent, as well as finding room for snowshoes
>
> and backpacks in the vestibule. The cramped two person sleeping conditions
I described in the field review are only
>
> exacerbated by the need to carry bulkier winter gear.
>
> SUMMARY
>
> The NEMO Obi 2P is the lightest, most compact two person tent that I have
personally had the pleasure of using. The setup
>
> is a breeze once you learn how to do it, and the packed size and weight
leave very little to be desired. The tent is very
>
> well constructed and ventilated. Its only weak spot is the limited
interior room. I would not hesitate to recommend it as
>
> a one or two person three season tent. However I would not use it as a two
person tent in the winter given the extra space
>
> needed to accommodate winter gear.
>
> Pros:
> Lightweight.
> Compact.
> Two nice size vestibules.
> Transparent mesh allows for great view of sky at night.
> Easy to set up.
> Very spacious for a single person.
>
> Cons:
> Cramped for two people.
> Only one interior pocket.
>
>
>
> This report was created with the BGT Report Generator.
> Copyright 2013. All rights reserved.
>





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Hi Nancy,
Just a couple of edits and you’re good to upload.

Your edits are in the usual format -
EDIT – must change
edit – my recommended change if you agree
comment – just that
So, here we go...

“This requires removing the Jake's Feet from the tent and then the pole,
footprint and fly attach to the feet.”

EDIT – This sentence is difficult to read as “footprint and fly attach to
the feet” seems to be a disjointed thought that was added. I would either
rewrite this or split it into two sentences.

“With the fly completely closed down there was adequate wind protection.”

edit – “down” is unnecessary and repetitive. I would just write, “With
the fly completely closed there was adequate wind protection.”



That’s it! Please remember to delete your test file copy.
It was good to be able to work with you during this test and I hope to see you
again soon.
Mike



From: Nancy Griffith
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 5:56 PM
To: backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com ; Mike Mosack
Subject: [backpackgeartesters] LTR: NEMO Obi 2p Tent- Nancy Griffith


Hi Mike,

I've posted my LTR to the test folder.  Thanks in advance for providing the
edits.

My camera died during the test period but my phone managed to bail me out.

Nancy

http://www.backpackgeartest.org/reviews/test/TESTS/LTR-%20NEMO%20Obi%20Tent-%20N\
ancy%20Griffith/

http://tinyurl.com/bjabu4m


LONG-TERM REPORT

LONG-TERM TEST LOCATIONS AND CONDITIONS

< >Over the Long-Term test period I used the tent for an additional two
backpacking trips of three days each for four additional nights for a total of
twelve nights.  All uses were two-person with my husband sharing the tent with
me.  He is 5' 10 " (1.8 m) tall and weighs 165 lb (75 kg).
Backpacking:
Point Reyes National Seashore, California: 2 nights; 9.3 mi (15 km); 0 to 1,407
ft (429 m) elevation; overnight lows of 40 and 42 F (4 to 5 C); sunny to partly
cloudy conditions.
Snowshoe Backpacking:
Loon Lake Trail, Sierra Nevada, California: 2 nights; 16.2 mi (26 km); elevation
6,327 to 7,030 ft (1,928 to 2,143 m); 22 to 50 F (-5 to 10 C); clear to cloudy
conditions with light wind.  Camping was on 4 ft (1.2 m) of packed snow.

PERFORMANCE IN THE FIELD

The tent continued to perform similarly to the Field Test period but I was able
to snow camp and use the footprint/fly combination in sand during this test
period.
< >On the Point Reyes coastal trip I had the opportunity to use the footprint
and fly configuration.  This requires removing the Jake's Feet from the tent and
then the pole, footprint and fly attach to the feet.  We had hiked to our
campsite near the coast and decided to take it down to the beach for a peaceful
afternoon since I wasn't feeling very well.  The sun was shining and it was nice
to have the fly as a shade.  As I took a nap the wind kicked up significantly
and the fly then provided some needed wind block.  Eventually too much sand was
blowing under as the wind increased and we decided to head back to camp.
I really like the option of setting up this way although it is a bit of a
luxury.  On most of my future trips, I probably won't choose to carry the
footprint in order to keep my pack weight down and since I usually don't have
time during the day for lounging under a sun shade.  However, on more leisurely
trips I would definitely pack and use this combination.  If I find myself using
this set-up often then I will likely purchase another set of Jake's Feet to
eliminate the need for removing them from the tent.
We were sleeping on deep snow on the second trip.  I used trekking poles to
stake out the vestibule in the snow since the stakes are too short to do much
good in snow.  Fortunately it wasn't windy to need to have the tent sides and
corners staked down.  With the fly completely closed down there was adequate
wind protection.  The skies were clear at night so the tent didn't see any snow
loads.
I was able to set up and take down the tent in cold temperatures while wearing
thin gloves.  It was easy to operate the attachments even when they were filled
with snow, the plastic was frozen and my hands were a little cold.

SUMMARY

The NEMO Obi 2P tent is a well-constructed, well-designed two-person tent with
great features while still being lightweight.
Great:
Lightweight for a double-walled tent
Accurate weights advertised
Two doors and vestibules
Easy in
Light pocket
Compression stuff sack
Not-so-great:
A bit cramped for two people
A little difficult to get out
Side pocket lost contents overnight
This concludes my Long-Term Test Report and this test series.  Thanks to NEMO
Equipment, Inc. and BackpackGearTest.org for allowing me to participate in this
test.



This report was created with the BGT Report Generator.
Copyright 2013.  All rights reserved.

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Mike,
No problem, thanks for getting those.  See you next time.


-Alex Legg
--- In backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com, "the_fish_guy"  wrote:
>
> Alex,
>
> My apologies . . . I missed a few edits in my initial round.  Please see
below, and re-upload as soon as you're able.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> On each trip I covered fro 9 mi to 15 mi (14 km to 24 km) in varying
conditions
>
> EDIT: from
>
>
>
> The daypack was only on my back for a 6 mi (10 km) stretch, and was otherwise
filled with clothes and use as a dry bag
>
>
>
> EDIT: and "used" as
>
>
>
> I often load it with a base layer (1 pair pants and 1 shirt), a lightweight
synthetic down jacket
>
> Edit: synthetic "fill" jacket
>
>
>

Date has been updated - same URL as before.

--- In backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com, "Kathy Waters"  wrote:
>
> No worry!  When you first open RW and you clip on the "Write and Edit
> Reports" selection, it brings up the box with your lists of reports and ORs.
> Click on the "Advanced" radio button, select the report you need to change
> the date in  and then just change the date in the "date" field below
>
>
>
> OK?
>
>
>
> Kathy
>
>
>
> Please help support me in my 2nd Tubbs' Romp to Stomp out Breast Cancer
> Snowshoe Race, March 2, 2013.  You can donate at
>  http://tinyurl.com/bem2xm4.  THANKS!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of agirenkov
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 8:07 AM.
>
>
> To: backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [backpackgeartesters] Re: LTR - NEMO Obi 2P Tent - Andrei Girenkov
>
>
>
>
>
> I just caught the fact that the LTR has the wrong date on it. Does anyone
> know how to update the date in the BGT report writer? I don't see a field
> for it.
>
> --- In backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com
>  , "agirenkov" wrote:
> >
> > Uploaded version can be found here: http://tinyurl.com/atp3sa2
> > Text only version is below.
> >
> > Please note that in addition to the LTR section, I went back and edited
> the FR section to reflect comments that I received from Ray and other BGT
> staff. Specifically I rephrased my criticism of the cramped space to
> acknowledge that two people can indeed fit, although with some difficulty.
> Furthermore, I originally found the tent very cold and planned to do the LTR
> in March when it got warmer. Because I did the LTR in January (to meet the
> deadline as well as to see how it performs in the winter), I removed all
> statements about my March plans from the FR.
> >
> > Thank you Kathy, Ray, Richard, and Mike for helping me get this across the
> finish line.
> >
> >
> > NEMO OBI 2P TENT
> > TEST SERIES BY ANDREI GIRENKOV
> > LTR
> > February 10, 2013
> >
> > TESTER INFORMATION
> >
> > NAME: Andrei Girenkov
> > EMAIL: agirenkov[AT]yahoo[DOT]com
> > AGE: 31
> > LOCATION: New York, New York, USA
> > GENDER: M
> > HEIGHT: 5' 10" (1.78 m)
> > WEIGHT: 150 lb (68.00 kg)
> >
> > I have been backpacking for 6 years, mostly 3-season weekend trips in the
> Adirondacks, and other parks in the Northeastern
> >
> > US. Additionally, I try to take at least one 5-7 day trip each summer to
> other destinations in Canada, Western United
> >
> > States and Central America. I use lightweight gear on a budget. My
> multi-day pack weight is around 20-25 lb (9-11kg). I
> >
> > enjoy sleeping comfortably and cooking a hot meal at night
> >
> >
> > INITIAL REPORT
> >
> > PRODUCT INFORMATION & SPECIFICATIONS
> >
> > Manufacturer: NEMO Equipment Inc.
> > Year of Manufacture: 2012
> > Manufacturer's Website: <
>
> > "http://www.nemoequipment.com/">>
> > MSRP: Tent: $389.95, Footprint: $49.95
> >
> > Listed Weight:
> > Minimum tent weight (just tent body, fly, poles): 3 lb 0 oz (1360 g)
> > Packed weight (everything included in the package): 3 lb 10 oz (1644 g)
> > Footprint: 8.6 oz (245 g)
> >
> > < >
> >
> > Measured Weight:
> > Tent realistically packed (body, fly, poles, guy lines, stakes, repair
> kit, stuff sacks): 3 lb 6.6 oz (1605 g)
> > Footprint: 8.6 oz (245 g)
> >
> > Listed Interior Height: 40 in (102 cm)
> > Listed Floor Dimensions 84 x 50 in (213 x 127 cm)
> > Verified Accurate
> >
> > Listed Area: 27 sq ft (2.5 sq m)
> > Listed Vestibules Area: 18 sq ft (1.7 sq m)
> > Listed Packed Size: 7.5 in length x 6 in diameter (19 x 15 cm)
> > Measured Packed Size (after opening and repacking): 10.5 x 6.5 in (27 x
> 16.5 cm)
> >
> > Fly / Vestibule Fabric: 20D Polyurethane Treated Nylon
> > Floor Fabric: 30D Polyurethane Treated Nylon
> > Footprint Fabric: 70D Polyurethane Treated Nylon
> >
> > Manufacturer's Description:
> >
> > NEMO bills the Obi tent as a lightweight, carefully designed, "finely
> tuned instruments." The company states that every
> >
> > piece of material utilized serves for a purpose, and not an extra ounce of
> weight was used to accomplish this task.
> >
> >
> >
> > INITIAL IMPRESSIONS
> >
> > The package included 3 stuff sacks which contained the main NEMO Obi 2P
> Tent (hereafter called Obi 2P or simply the tent),
> >
> > the poles, and a footprint.
> >
> > The first thing that struck me was the small size of the tent itself. As
> you can see from the photograph, the initial size
> >
> > of the compressed tent is about as long as a men's size 10 US (44 EU) shoe
> and about twice as wide. The tent poles came
> >
> > in an elongated stuff sack that physically clips to the tent's compression
> sack.
> >
> > The manufacturer was kind enough to include a footprint as well in a
> separate mesh bag. This accessory normally retails
> >
> > for an additional $50. It weighs in at a hefty 8.6 oz (245 g) - a
> significant portion of the overall weight given the
> >
> > manufacturer's stated goal of not wasting a single ounce.
> >
> >
> > TRYING IT OUT
> >
> > < >
> > The Obi 2P uses a pole and hub system. The poles now are GREEN anodized
> DAC Featherlite NSL. DAC describes this as a new
> >
> > process for anodizing poles that minimizes the use of toxic chemicals. The
> center pole extends to a hub at each end. Two
> >
> > poles extend from each hub to the corners of the tent, forming an
> elongated X.
> >
> > The poles end in a small metal ball which goes into a socket at each
> corner of the tent. Once the poles are erected, the
> >
> > tent clips to them with plastic twist clips. The twist makes it very easy
> to clip on, and the shape forces the pole into
> >
> > the deepest part of the hook so they don't slide down. Here is a photo of
> the initial tent setup and a closeup of a pole
> >
> > hub with an attached twist clip.
> >
> >
> > At each corner of the tent is a mechanism called a "Jake's Foot". It is
> designed to allow the poles, fly and footprint to
> >
> > quickly and securely attach to the tent. This is quite a handy mechanism
> once you know how to use it, however the
> >
> > instructions it comes with are limited to 4 pictures without any words,
> akin to IKEA assembly instructions. After about 10
> >
> > minutes of fumbling about with the fly and the foot print I had to watch a
> video online to see how to use it.
> >
> > The Jake's foot without any attachments is pictured below. The poles snap
> into the ball socket in the middle of the
> >
> > Jake's foot. Then the fly snaps into place with the little hook facing
> down on the outermost cross member of the Jake's
> >
> > foot. Then the footprint snaps in with the hook facing up on the innermost
> cross member.
> >
> > < > <
>
> > HERE. ALT TEXT = "Empty Jake's Foot" IMAGE CAPTION = "Empty Jake's Foot">>
> >
> > The floor of the Obi 2P is made of lightweight 30D Polyurethane (PU)
> nylon. An optional 70D PU nylon footprint can be
> >
> > attached below. The walls are ultra lightweight 20D PU nylon for the first
> half up from the floor and then a switch to a
> >
> > No-See-Um polyester mesh. There are two wide D-shaped doors. NEMO provides
> a loop and toggle to secure each door so it
> >
> > doesn't flap in the breeze when open. There is a single very small storage
> pocket behind one of the doors.
> >
> > The green rain fly is made of the same ultral ightweight 20D PU nylon as
> the walls. As mentioned above, it snaps to the
> >
> > tent via a Jake's Foot in each corner. The fly has two vestibules with
> D-shaped doors and storm flaps over the zippers.
> >
> > The Vestibules are very roomy, which I believe will come in very handy
> given the tight dimensions of this tent. The fly
> >
> > does not extend all the way to the ground on all sides. On the head end of
> the tent the fly stops half way down the walls,
> >
> > covering only the mesh portion. This allows the tent to ventilate. There
> are no other vents on the fly itself.
> >
> > < >
> >
> > SUMMARY
> >
> > NEMO set out to make a compact, lightweight and comfortable two-person
> tent, in which every detail serves a purpose. The
> >
> > initial impression is that they succeeded at least on the first two
> counts, particularly on packed size. The tent shaves a
> >
> > pound of weight and about 50% of packed size from my current ultra light
> tent that was state of the art when I bought it 6
> >
> > years ago. The instructions for the new Jake's Foot system are not obvious
> at first glance. However setup became very
> >
> > simple and quick once I looked at an instructional video online. The jury
> is still out on the comfort of this tent. I
> >
> > hope to answer that question in the Field and Long Term Reports.
> >
> >
> >
> > FIELD REPORT
> >
> > FIELD LOCATIONS AND CONDITIONS
> >
> > I took the NEMO Obi 2P Tent out on three weekend trips in late September
> and early October in upstate New York. One trip
> >
> > was to the Sawtooth Ridge in the Adirondack Mountains, the second to
> Minnewaska State Oark, and the third to the Catskill
> >
> > Mountains. The weather was mild and sunny on all three trips. Daytime
> temperatures were around 50 F (10 C). The
> >
> > temperature dropped below freezing on a single night during my October
> trip.
> >
> > In order to minimize the weight of the tent, NEMO designers have
> eliminated material or substituted a lightweight
> >
> > alternative wherever possible. Case in point, more than half of the body
> of the tent is made from a mesh material. While
> >
> > this provides for great ventilation, and a beautiful view of the stars on
> a clear night, it also limits the temperature
> >
> > range when the tent can be used. I will take the tent out on a winter trip
> to confirm this observation.
> >
> > PERFORMANCE IN THE FIELD
> >
> > < >Let me start off by saying that for the weather conditions of my field
> test, the tent was just about perfect. It
> >
> > was extremely light and compact and very well ventilated. I carried it
> without a rainfly because of the fair weather.
> >
> > Sleeping in it felt very open - as if I was lying without a tent at all.
> The mesh disappeared into the night sky, and the
> >
> > moon and stars were my roof! This setup worked out very well for all but
> my last night outside, when the temperature
> >
> > dipped below freezing. Without a fly, it was very cold, even with a 20 F
> (-7 C) rated sleeping bag.
> >
> > One aspect of this tent that users should be aware of is its compact
> interior space. This version of the Obi is advertised
> >
> > as a two person tent. Two pads will fit into the tent, however you will
> get to know your tent mate very closely! Here is
> >
> > an overhead view of my regular-sized (20 in or 51 cm wide) Therm-a-Rest
> Neo Air which is centered inside the tent. When I
> >
> > sleep on my back, I occupy the entire width of the pad. I could just fit
> two of them inside the tent side by side, and
> >
> > sleeping on either one required touching the wall of the tent with my
> body. Without a fly this was not an issue. In a
> >
> > future test I will try such an arrangement with the fly on to see if
> condensation becomes an issue. With two people inside
> >
> > this tent there is no room for any personal items other than what will fit
> under your pillow or inside the single pocket.
> >
> > The good news is that this tent is light enough to be carried on a solo
> trip. For a single sleeper, it felt like my own
> >
> > personal Taj Mahal. There was a lot of room on both sides of my sleeping
> bag for a flashlight, book, clothes and other
> >
> > personal items as well as plenty of headroom above me. On these trips I
> left my pack and shoes unprotected outside
> >
> > overnight. In my next test I would like to check if there is enough space
> in the vestibule to keep my pack, or if I have
> >
> > to sacrifice more internal space.
> >
> > < ><
>
> > HERE. ALT TEXT = "Inside View" IMAGE CAPTION = "A solo Taj Mahal!">>
> >
> > SUMMARY
> >
> > This is a very light tent. This advantage is enhanced even further by the
> ability to leave the rain fly at home and save
> >
> > another pound or so. In this configuration, there is great ventilation and
> no condensation whatsoever. Additionally, all
> >
> > the materials and construction are topnotch. There are no loose threads or
> seams, and the footprint, tent, and fly line up
> >
> > perfectly with each other for quick and easy assembly.
> >
> > I do have a concern about the interior room if used as a two-person tent.
> It is spacious for one person, but becomes
> >
> > cramped if two people are sleeping inside. Additionally I would like to
> see whether this tent can be used in the winter
> >
> > with the fly pitched.
> >
> >
> >
> > LONG-TERM REPORT
> >
> > LONG-TERM TEST LOCATIONS AND CONDITIONS
> >
> > In the fall, I used the Obi as a solo tent, and pitched it without a fly.
> My field review left several questions
> >
> > unanswered. During my subsequent trips I wanted to find out how the tent
> will perform with a fly in cold weather, whether
> >
> > condensation is a problem, and how comfortable it is for two person use.
> This long term review answers those questions.
> >
> > I carried the tent with me on a two night snowshoe trip to the Rockingham
> Recreational Trail in New Hampshire in January.
> >
> > The round trip took me across approximately 52 mi (84 km) of 3 ft (91 cm)
> of packed snow. This is a rather flat trail that
> >
> > follows an abandoned railroad line. The elevation ranges from 250 to 400
> ft (76 to 122 m) above sea level. The weather
> >
> > was clear to cloudy. Temperature ranged from 4 to 17 F (-15 to -8 C).
> >
> > PERFORMANCE IN THE FIELD
> >
> > For this trip I was accompanied by a hiking buddy. We pitched the tent
> with a fly and both slept in it. We used foam
> >
> > pads, with a 4 season inflatable sleeping pad on top, and both slept in 0
> F (-18 C) sleeping bags as well as in some winter
> >
> > clothing. We left our backpacks, boots, and snowshoes in the vestibule
> overnight.
> >
> > The tent provided adequate wind protection, and we did not experience any
> snow drifting into the tent under the fly.
> >
> > Although the temperatures were quite low, we had a very warm sleeping
> setup as you can see above. Neither one of us woke
> >
> > up from cold temperature in the middle of the night.
> >
> > There was a fair amount of condensation in the form of frost that formed
> on the mesh overnight. This is typical of winter
> >
> > camping because the cold temperature cause exhaled moisture to freeze
> almost immediately. I cannot blame the tent in this
> >
> > case.
> >
> > The biggest challenge for us was fitting all the winter sleeping gear into
> the tent, as well as finding room for snowshoes
> >
> > and backpacks in the vestibule. The cramped two person sleeping conditions
> I described in the field review are only
> >
> > exacerbated by the need to carry bulkier winter gear.
> >
> > SUMMARY
> >
> > The NEMO Obi 2P is the lightest, most compact two person tent that I have
> personally had the pleasure of using. The setup
> >
> > is a breeze once you learn how to do it, and the packed size and weight
> leave very little to be desired. The tent is very
> >
> > well constructed and ventilated. Its only weak spot is the limited
> interior room. I would not hesitate to recommend it as
> >
> > a one or two person three season tent. However I would not use it as a two
> person tent in the winter given the extra space
> >
> > needed to accommodate winter gear.
> >
> > Pros:
> > Lightweight.
> > Compact.
> > Two nice size vestibules.
> > Transparent mesh allows for great view of sky at night.
> > Easy to set up.
> > Very spacious for a single person.
> >
> > Cons:
> > Cramped for two people.
> > Only one interior pocket.
> >
> >
> >
> > This report was created with the BGT Report Generator.
> > Copyright 2013. All rights reserved.
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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>

Thanks Mike. Got it modified and uploaded and deleted the test file.

It was nice working with you on this test. See you again on another I'm sure.

Happy trails

Nancy

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 10, 2013, at 9:03 AM, "Mike Mosack" <mosack@...> wrote:

> Hi Nancy,
> Just a couple of edits and you’re good to upload.
>
> Your edits are in the usual format -
> EDIT – must change
> edit – my recommended change if you agree
> comment – just that
> So, here we go...
>
> “This requires removing the Jake's Feet from the tent and then the pole,
footprint and fly attach to the feet.”
>
> EDIT – This sentence is difficult to read as “footprint and fly attach to
the feet” seems to be a disjointed thought that was added. I would either
rewrite this or split it into two sentences.
>
> “With the fly completely closed down there was adequate wind protection.”
>
> edit – “down” is unnecessary and repetitive. I would just write, “With
the fly completely closed there was adequate wind protection.”
>
> That’s it! Please remember to delete your test file copy.
> It was good to be able to work with you during this test and I hope to see you
again soon.
> Mike
>
> From: Nancy Griffith
> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 5:56 PM
> To: backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com ; Mike Mosack
> Subject: [backpackgeartesters] LTR: NEMO Obi 2p Tent- Nancy Griffith
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> I've posted my LTR to the test folder. Thanks in advance for providing the
edits.
>
> My camera died during the test period but my phone managed to bail me out.
>
> Nancy
>
>
http://www.backpackgeartest.org/reviews/test/TESTS/LTR-%20NEMO%20Obi%20Tent-%20N\
ancy%20Griffith/
>
> http://tinyurl.com/bjabu4m
>
>
> LONG-TERM REPORT
>
> LONG-TERM TEST LOCATIONS AND CONDITIONS
>
> < >Over the Long-Term test period I used the tent for an additional two
backpacking trips of three days each for four additional nights for a total of
twelve nights. All uses were two-person with my husband sharing the tent with
me. He is 5' 10 " (1.8 m) tall and weighs 165 lb (75 kg).
> Backpacking:
> Point Reyes National Seashore, California: 2 nights; 9.3 mi (15 km); 0 to
1,407 ft (429 m) elevation; overnight lows of 40 and 42 F (4 to 5 C); sunny to
partly cloudy conditions.
> Snowshoe Backpacking:
> Loon Lake Trail, Sierra Nevada, California: 2 nights; 16.2 mi (26 km);
elevation 6,327 to 7,030 ft (1,928 to 2,143 m); 22 to 50 F (-5 to 10 C); clear
to cloudy conditions with light wind. Camping was on 4 ft (1.2 m) of packed
snow.
>
> PERFORMANCE IN THE FIELD
>
> The tent continued to perform similarly to the Field Test period but I was
able to snow camp and use the footprint/fly combination in sand during this test
period.
> < >On the Point Reyes coastal trip I had the opportunity to use the footprint
and fly configuration. This requires removing the Jake's Feet from the tent and
then the pole, footprint and fly attach to the feet. We had hiked to our
campsite near the coast and decided to take it down to the beach for a peaceful
afternoon since I wasn't feeling very well. The sun was shining and it was nice
to have the fly as a shade. As I took a nap the wind kicked up significantly and
the fly then provided some needed wind block. Eventually too much sand was
blowing under as the wind increased and we decided to head back to camp.
> I really like the option of setting up this way although it is a bit of a
luxury. On most of my future trips, I probably won't choose to carry the
footprint in order to keep my pack weight down and since I usually don't have
time during the day for lounging under a sun shade. However, on more leisurely
trips I would definitely pack and use this combination. If I find myself using
this set-up often then I will likely purchase another set of Jake's Feet to
eliminate the need for removing them from the tent.
> We were sleeping on deep snow on the second trip. I used trekking poles to
stake out the vestibule in the snow since the stakes are too short to do much
good in snow. Fortunately it wasn't windy to need to have the tent sides and
corners staked down. With the fly completely closed down there was adequate wind
protection. The skies were clear at night so the tent didn't see any snow loads.
> I was able to set up and take down the tent in cold temperatures while wearing
thin gloves. It was easy to operate the attachments even when they were filled
with snow, the plastic was frozen and my hands were a little cold.
>
> SUMMARY
>
> The NEMO Obi 2P tent is a well-constructed, well-designed two-person tent with
great features while still being lightweight.
> Great:
> Lightweight for a double-walled tent
> Accurate weights advertised
> Two doors and vestibules
> Easy in
> Light pocket
> Compression stuff sack
> Not-so-great:
> A bit cramped for two people
> A little difficult to get out
> Side pocket lost contents overnight
> This concludes my Long-Term Test Report and this test series. Thanks to NEMO
Equipment, Inc. and BackpackGearTest.org for allowing me to participate in this
test.
>
>
>
> This report was created with the BGT Report Generator.
> Copyright 2013. All rights reserved.
>
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>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>


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All fixed. Sorry about that.

On Feb 7, 2013, at 5:07 PM, Kathy Waters <kathy@...> wrote:

> Lori,
>
> Can you please fix the date on your long term report. It should be January
> 14, 2013, not 2012.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kathy
>
> Please help support me in my 2nd Tubbs' Romp to Stomp out Breast Cancer
> Snowshoe Race, March 2, 2013. You can donate at http://tinyurl.com/bem2xm4.
> THANKS!
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>



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Could an Empowered One please delete:

http://www.backpackgeartest.org/reviews/Sleep%20Gear/Sleeping%20Bags/Exxel%20Sui\
sse%20Sport%20K2%20sleeping%20bag/Test%20Report%20by%20Lori%20Pontious/

for Lori?  Thanks!  --kurt

On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 10:19 PM, Lori Pontious <lori.pontious@...> wrote:
> I can't upload the edited report - help please?
>
> On Jan 30, 2013, at 8:01 AM, Kurt Papke <kwpapke@...> wrote:
>
>> Hey Lori.  As always, EDIT=must, edit=optional, comment= editorial
>>
>>> Although I have been somewhat rough with it, stuffing it into the trunk of
the car under bins and gear, the bag is pretty much in the same condition as
when I received it.
>>
>> edit: this somewhat contradicts your finding of unraveling seams in
>> the FR.  Would it make sense to restate that it is in the same shape
>> as it was when you concluded the FR or something to that effect?
>>
>>> Probably the only other frustrating thing about this bag is a minor quibble
as it is not the intended use for the feature - but the hood of the bag is where
I stuff a pillow or some clothing to cushion my head, and it's so generous that
whatever I put there slides out while I'm sleeping.
>>
>> edit: this is a bit of a run-on sentence, and the "-" punctuation here
>> might be a little confusing.  I'd suggest you rephrase this to
>> something like "The generous length of the bag is a great feature, but
>> has an unintended consequence of allowing my pillow to slide up from
>> underneath my head."  Choose your own words, but I'd try and simplify
>> that sentence a bit to make it easier to parse.
>>
>> C'est tout!  Upload when your edits are complete, and please delete
>> from the Test folder.
>>
>> See ya on a future series!
>>
>> --Kurt
>

Hi Kurt/ Lori

It's outta there now.  Thanks for the link.

Nancy

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 11, 2013, at 6:30 AM, Kurt Papke <kwpapke@...> wrote:

> Could an Empowered One please delete:
>
>
http://www.backpackgeartest.org/reviews/Sleep%20Gear/Sleeping%20Bags/Exxel%20Sui\
sse%20Sport%20K2%20sleeping%20bag/Test%20Report%20by%20Lori%20Pontious/
>
> for Lori? Thanks! --kurt
>
> On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 10:19 PM, Lori Pontious lori.pontious@...>
wrote:
> > I can't upload the edited report - help please?
> >
> > On Jan 30, 2013, at 8:01 AM, Kurt Papke kwpapke@...> wrote:
> >
> >> Hey Lori. As always, EDIT=must, edit=optional, comment= editorial
> >>
> >>> Although I have been somewhat rough with it, stuffing it into the trunk of
the car under bins and gear, the bag is pretty much in the same condition as
when I received it.
> >>
> >> edit: this somewhat contradicts your finding of unraveling seams in
> >> the FR. Would it make sense to restate that it is in the same shape
> >> as it was when you concluded the FR or something to that effect?
> >>
> >>> Probably the only other frustrating thing about this bag is a minor
quibble as it is not the intended use for the feature - but the hood of the bag
is where I stuff a pillow or some clothing to cushion my head, and it's so
generous that whatever I put there slides out while I'm sleeping.
> >>
> >> edit: this is a bit of a run-on sentence, and the "-" punctuation here
> >> might be a little confusing. I'd suggest you rephrase this to
> >> something like "The generous length of the bag is a great feature, but
> >> has an unintended consequence of allowing my pillow to slide up from
> >> underneath my head." Choose your own words, but I'd try and simplify
> >> that sentence a bit to make it easier to parse.
> >>
> >> C'est tout! Upload when your edits are complete, and please delete
> >> from the Test folder.
> >>
> >> See ya on a future series!
> >>
> >> --Kurt
> >
>


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Sorry for the delay.  Any ORs posted into the beginning of Feb. that qualified
for last month's Call will be honored.  As for the February "Call for Owner
Reviews" let's do something a bit more popular: Shelters and Trekking Poles (and
assessories)

Please refer to the http://www.backpackgeartest.org/reviews/ page for
sub-categories and ideas of what others have already been reviewing. Obviously,
original items not already listed are certainly welcome as long as they fit BGT
standards.

The Edit team is twiddling their thumbs so bring on the tsunami of Owner
Reviews!

Safe hiking,
Jamie D.
Editors Team Director

Hi Ray,

As usual excellent report. All I can say is Burrrrr.

The second picture is kind of interesting. Nothing like a camp swing and the
object in the background, at first glance looks like a wrecked boat. I'm
assuming it is a barn or something?

Looks like just a temperature issue and you are good to go.

All the best,
Bob


> The first was warm for the time of year with a low of 12 F (-11 C) while the
second was back to normal with a low of 10 (-23 C)
>
EDIT: For a second I didn't really understand how 12 F was warm and 10 was
normal. Check your numbers but I think it should read -10 F (-23 C)


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The MPOWERD Luci light test call is officially closed.

Thanks to all who applied.  Stay tuned for selections.

Ryan

The Ahnu Footware Mendocino Boots test is now complete! You can read the test
reports here: http://teststatus.backpackgeartest.org/link2545.htm or here:
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The Black Diamond Equipment Mercury 75L Men's Backpack test is now complete! You
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The Clif Bar Kit's Organic Bars test is now complete! You can read the test
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The Exxel Outdoors Suisse Sport McKinley Mummy Sleeping Bag test is now
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I can't delete the field report. Could someone help me out?

On Feb 2, 2013, at 6:41 PM, laurence kirschner <asklarry98@...> wrote:

>
>
> Hi Lori-
>
> Just a couple of small things for you to fix, and then you are good to go.
> Nice working with you on this report.
>
> See you on down the trail
>
> -larry
>
> ----
>
> Comment: Both the IR and the FR have a horizontal bar above the report to
separate from the sections above. Can you please add as well for the LTR?
>
> EDIT: Mercey Hot Springs Resort.
> >>>I don�t know where this is--Can you put a location? (city, state). I assume
the spelling (Mercey) is correct, but please verify.
>
> Edit: Some of the tent stakes have bent a little. I can still use them,
though, and lucky for me they are usable.
> >>>Not sure what you are trying to say here? The tent stakes are still
functional?
>
>



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Poof....Gone Lori.
A link would have been helpful or even the name "Exxel Suisse Sport Mammoth
Tent" so that I could find it easily.
Cheers
Ralph

-----Original Message-----
From: backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lori Pontious
Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2013 1:46 PM
To: backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [backpackgeartesters] DELETE request: LTR SS Mammoth tent - L
Pontious

I can't delete the field report. Could someone help me out?

On Feb 2, 2013, at 6:41 PM, laurence kirschner <asklarry98@...>
wrote:

>
>
> Hi Lori-
>
> Just a couple of small things for you to fix, and then you are good to go.
> Nice working with you on this report.
>
> See you on down the trail
>
> -larry
>
> ----
>
> Comment: Both the IR and the FR have a horizontal bar above the report to
separate from the sections above. Can you please add as well for the LTR?
>
> EDIT: Mercey Hot Springs Resort.
> >>>I don't know where this is--Can you put a location? (city, state). I
assume the spelling (Mercey) is correct, but please verify.
>
> Edit: Some of the tent stakes have bent a little. I can still use them,
though, and lucky for me they are usable.
> >>>Not sure what you are trying to say here? The tent stakes are still
functional?
>
>



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Yahoo! Groups Links

Hi Bob,

Thank you for editing this series. Yes you were correct, I had the wrong temp.

Yes that is a collapsed barn. It is amazing how fast buildings fall apart once
abandoned.

Ray

Francis,

It was pointed out to me that I missed a few things when editing your
report.  Please see to the three items below.

Sorry for the second run-through.  Thanks!

James

Listed Compact Measurement: 26" (66cm)
Listed Extended Measurement: 54" (137m)
[EDIT] needs spaces after the numbers (66 cm)

The Carbonlite Pro trekking poles are lightweight at a little over a pound
for both poles.
[EDIT] need the metric conversion

The poles are constructed with a blend of carbon and aircraft grade 7075
aluminum
[EDIT]  with a blend of carbon ?fiber?




From:   jetriple@...
To:     backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com
Date:   02/01/2013 11:29 AM
Subject:        [backpackgeartesters] [EDIT] IR MOUNTAINSMITH CARBONLITE
PRO TREKKING POLES - Frances Penn
Sent by:        backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com



> Subject: IR MOUNTAINSMITH CARBONLITE PRO TREKKING POLES - Frances Penn
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ae4u6te

Hi Frances...  Thank you for your Pole report.  Sorry for the delay in
getting back to you.  I was out last week, and came back with a cold.
And... my backup at work, well, didn't.

Anyway...  Nice report!  I only have a few small edits below,  Please
consider my edits and when you are satisfied with your report, upload to
the official folder.  Please delete
the test copy once you have uploaded.

Thanks again!  I look forward to the next installment.

James E. Triplett
  Mountainsmith - Carbonlite Trekking Pole Monitor

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Listed Weight: 1 lb. 2 oz (51 kg)
Measured Weight: 1 lb. 2 oz (54 g) excluding rubber tips and baskets
[Edit]  Please state that this is for the pair.

Compact Measurement: 27" (69 cm)
Extended Measurement: 57" (145 cm)
[EDIT]  From the Mountainsmith website I see they report the dimensions
as: Compressed: 26", Extended: 54".  You should include this before your
measurements.

end tab resting on neoprene portion ot wrist strap
[EDIT] "ot" should be "of"

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


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BGT and Chaos Hats are looking for 3 testers who get out even when the
weather is nasty!



Introducting, the Headwall Collection Adventurer Hat - "The Adventurer is a
Balaclava style technical accessory that has a water/wind/snow resistant
head cover, 70g ThinsulateR insulation and fleece lining for comfort. The
ventilated mask with mesh lining ensures high performance and the adjustable
Velcro side panels ensure a snug fit. Available in four colors: Black,
Orange, Grey and Blue. $44.99"



The info is not on the website, but there is a Word Doc file in the
BackpackGearTesters Yahoo Groups file section which includes a graphic of
the hat - Chaos_adventurer>Hat_spc.doc.



US SHIPPING IS INCLUDED,  This DOES NOT count towards the newbie limit.



*****  This will be a 2-report test with the second FR/LTR due AFTER 2
months (at least) but not necessarily 4 months out if weather becomes a
factor.



*  Brief Test Plan; how you'll use the hat backpacking

*  Link to Previous Test Reports

*  Link to Tester Status Page

*  Current Test Load

*  Current Applications

*  Current role(s) at BGT (editor, mentor, monitor, other labors of love)

*  Please include "Chaos Adventurer" in the subject line of your application

*  Please send a copy of your application to me at jrw at backpackgeartest
dot org



I'm the test manager and test director and this test call will close one
week from tonight, Tuesday, February 19 at 9pm MST.



Make me work at this and send me lots of good apps!


Thanks and good luck!

John















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Thanks for the edits, Kathy!  I don't know HOW you and John do it... You two are
incredible. Changes made, uploaded and cleared out the test folder.  Now on to
writing apps...

Brett Haydin

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"Teamwork: It's amazing how much
   can be accomplished when no one
   cares who gets the credit."

  To: bhaydin@...
CC: BackpackGearTesters@yahoogroups.com
From: kathy@...
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 11:20:34 -0700
Subject: [backpackgeartesters] EDIT: FR - Obermeyer Kestral Jacket - Brett
Haydin


























       Brett,



Totally apologized for the delay in editing.  I'm still trying to catch up

from ORWM.  Any way, it sounds like you have been having so good Colorado

winter fun in your jacket!



Just a few minor edits and you are good to delete the test file and upload.

See you in the next couple of months.



Kathy



Please help support me in my 2nd Tubbs' Romp to Stomp out Breast Cancer

Snowshoe Race, March 2, 2013.  You can donate at

http://tinyurl.com/bem2xm4> http://tinyurl.com/bem2xm4.  THANKS!



__________________________________________________________

__________



I experienced strong winds, some good snowfall of 6 in (15, cm) and

temperatures between 10 and 40 F (-12 and 4 C).



EDIT:  Delete the comma after "15" and before "cm".



Under a heavy pack, this jacket is as comfortable as any other than I have

worn.  The fabric is soft and smooth and there are no odd seams to cause any

chaffing under the straps.



EDIT:  While spelled correctly, wrong meaning - should be "chafing".



While hiking, I find that a midweight or expedition-weight base layer and a

fleece vest is just about the perfect combination with this jacket.



EDIT:  Should change "Is" to "are".



Taking the jood on and off is really easy.



EDIT:  Change to "hood".



Because the summer trail disappears and reappears, it is easy to get off

track and have to bushwack through all sorts of shrubs



EDIT:  Change to "bushwhack"



From: Brett Haydin [mailto:bhaydin@...]

Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 11:33 PM

To: backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com; Kathy Waters; Kathy Waters

Subject: FR - Obermeyer Kestral Jacket - Brett Haydin



Kathy,



Hope you are having a great winter!  I have my FR ready for you to edit.

Too bad the snow is falling right now... 48 inches in Silverton?  I know

where I want to go!  You can find the HTML at http://tinyurl.com/a8tzyre.

Hopefully I have made the edits easy for you...



Cheers!



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I am planning to take advantage of the long upcoming weekend with a 5-day
backpack trip in Joshua Tree National Park.  I am leaving Thursday morning 2/14
and will be back Monday Feb 19.  I already e-mailed my shipping info to the
monitor for my one outstanding app.  Hope that covers everything.

Perfect, Frances!  This is exactly what needs to be done when taking an OOP!
You having alerted the test manager will prevent delays.  THANKS!



Kathy



Please help support me in my 2nd Tubbs' Romp to Stomp out Breast Cancer
Snowshoe Race, March 2, 2013.  You can donate at
<http://tinyurl.com/bem2xm4> http://tinyurl.com/bem2xm4.  THANKS!





From: backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
fpenn@...
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 8:27 AM
To: backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [backpackgeartesters] OOP Frances Penn 2/14-2/19





I am planning to take advantage of the long upcoming weekend with a 5-day
backpack trip in Joshua Tree National Park. I am leaving Thursday morning
2/14 and will be back Monday Feb 19. I already e-mailed my shipping info to
the monitor for my one outstanding app. Hope that covers everything.





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