Hi Kathy,
Below is my Initial Report for the Obermeyer Kestral Jacket. The link to my HTML
report is
http://www.backpackgeartest.org/reviews/test/TESTS/IR%20-%20Obermeyer%20Kestral%\
20Jacket%20-%20Brian%20Hartman/
 
http://snurl.com/25mmnwk
 
Thanks,
Brian
 
 
INITIAL REPORT
    
PRODUCT INFORMATION & SPECIFICATIONS
 
<<IMAGE GOES HERE. ALT TEXT = "IMAGE 1"  IMAGE CAPTION = "Courtesy of
Obermeyer">>
Manufacturer: Sport Obermeyer
Year of Manufacture: 2012
Manufacturer's Website: <<HYPERLINK GOES HERE - "http://www.obermeyer.com/">>
MSRP: US $475.00
Listed Weight: Not Listed
Measured Weight: 2.8 lbs (1,280 g)
Colors Available:  Baja, Bling, Black, Juice, Quarry
Color Tested: Quarry
Sizes Available: Small, Medium, Large, XL, 2XL
Size Tested: Small
Fabric / Coating: EcoGenesis - 100% polyester mechanical stretch with 20,000mm /
10,000g laminate
Insulation / Lining: Thinsulate; Cocona Baselayer - 52% Cocona polyester, 48%
polyester
Waterproofing: 20,000mm / 10,000g
Fit: Alpine Cut
 
Features:
  External storm flap with hook and loop closure
  Internal windguard with fleece chin protector
  Fully seam sealed
  Zippered hand warmer pockets with key holder and d-ring
  Zippered chest pockets with detachable goggle cloth
  Wrist accessory pocket with water resistant zipper
  Zip-off hood with 2-way adjustment
  Adjustable internal hem drawcord
  Brushed collar lining
  Gusseted cuffs with adjustable closure
  Stretch fleece inner cuffs
  Helmet compatible hood
  Internal zippered electronic pockets
  RECCO rescue reflector
  Underarm ventilation with mesh gussets
  Powderskirt with gripper elastic
 
PRODUCT DESCRIPTION & INITIAL IMPRESSION
 
<<IMAGE GOES HERE. ALT TEXT = "IMAGE 2"  IMAGE CAPTION = "Storm flap">> The
Obermeyer Kestral jacket arrived at my doorstep in great condition with four
hang tags attached.  After giving it a brief once-over, my initial impression
was that it was a great looking jacket (as seen in the photo above in Quarry
gray color with black pinstripes) and it appeared to be a very well made.
 
The Obermeyer Kestral Jacket (hereafter called Kestral or jacket) is a
waterproof / breathable insulated jacket utilizing Obermeyer's green friendly
EcoGenesis stretch fabric.  The entire jacket (shell, lining and insulation) is
made of 100% polyester fibers.  Waterproofing and breathability are accomplished
by adding the manufacturer's proprietary 'Hydroblock' microporous coating and
'Duroguard' DWR finish to the jacket which help give it its 20,000mm / 10,000g
rating.  Hydroblock is a polyurethane coating that prevents water from
penetrating the shell while still allowing body moisture to evaporate out.  It
does this by reducing the size of the fabric pores such that water droplets are
too large to enter but water vapor can still pass through.  For added
protection, the Duroguard finish is applied as a hydrophobic coating to the
exterior of the jacket to increase surface tension causing water to bead up.  As
noted on Obermeyer's website,
  Duroguard also makes the fabric more durable and helps prevent stains.  The
significance of the waterproof / breathability rating system is that
manufacturers can use a standardized test to determine the waterproof /
breathability rating of their clothing and then display their results for
marketing purposes and to allow consumers to compare clothing based on their
particular needs.  Finally, the jacket is fully seam sealed to prevent water
permeation through any stitched areas where the fabric is sewn together.
 
The Kestral has a full-length front zipper with a 1.5 inches (4 cm) wide
exterior storm flap that is secured by six hook and loop closures.  The storm
flap prevents water from seeping through the front zipper, which is not
waterproof.  The front of the jacket is also protected against air filtration by
an internal zipper windguard that measures approx 1.25 inches (3 cm) in width. 
Moving to the top of the jacket, the top 8 inches (20 cm) of the windguard is
fleece-lined on the inside as a chin protector.  As an added bonus, the entire
inside of the jacket collar, which stands 4 inches (10 cm) tall, is
fleece-lined.  The hood is fully adjustable via two drawcords on its lower left
and ride hand sides that can be used to loosen or tighten it as necessary.  The
hood can also be adjusted vertically using a drawcord that is located on the
back side of the hood.  It is secured to the back of the jacket by a zipper and
two hook and loop closures that
  hold it in place on the sides.  The hood is also fully detachable and is large
enough to be worn with a helmet for ice climbing or downhill skiing.
 
<<IMAGE GOES HERE. ALT TEXT = "IMAGE 3"  IMAGE CAPTION = "Interior pocket">> 
<<IMAGE GOES HERE. ALT TEXT = "IMAGE 4"  IMAGE CAPTION = "Sleeve pocket">> The
Kestral has five exterior and two interior pockets.  Starting with the exterior
pockets, the two front hand pockets measure 7.5 inches (19 cm) deep by 11 inches
(28 cm) tall.  These pockets are fleece-lined and are covered by storm flaps. 
The right hand pocket houses a plastic D-clip for securing car keys or some
other object.  Moving upwards, the right chest pocket is protected by a
waterproof zipper and measures 6 inches (15 cm) by 6 inches (15 cm) while the
left chest pocket is secured by a regular zipper and storm flap and measures 5
inches (13 cm) deep by 8 inches (20 cm) tall.  This pocket contains a detachable
goggle cloth which I already know will come in handy when my glasses fog up or
get dirty.  The fifth and final exterior pocket is located on the left sleeve
and is protected by
  a waterproof zipper.  It measures 4 inches (10 cm) by 5 inches (13 cm).  Both
interior pockets are mesh.  The right interior pocket has a hook and loop
closure and measures 8 inches (20 cm) deep by 7 inches (18 cm) tall while the
left interior pocket is zippered and is 5 inches (13 cm) deep by 9 inches (23
cm) tall.
 
For improved ventilation, the Kestral jacket has underarm zippers with mesh
gussets.  They provide a convenient way to release excess body heat and
perspiration while doing strenuous hiking.  When fully unzipped each opening
measures 14 inches (35 cm).  For decreased ventilation and / or to prevent cold
air from entering the jacket, the Kestral has gusseted cuffs that are fully
adjustable via hook and loop closures.  The inner cuffs work very well in
providing enough stretch to seal off any air flow coming up the sleeves. 
Another place where cold air tends to enter most jackets is at the waist line
and so Obermeyer has incorporated a powder skirt into the Kestral.  The powder
skirt has an elastic waistband that helps prevent cold air flow (and snow) from
entering the jacket around the waist.  The jacket also has an adjustable
drawcord located at its lower hem to help seal out cold air as well as snow.
 
As a safety measure for those hiking in avalanche prone areas, the Kestral is
fitted with a RECCO rescue reflector.  The reflector is a small device that is
sewn into the right shoulder of the jacket.  When used in conjunction with
RECCO's radar detectors which are standard issue for most search and rescue
teams, it helps locate an avalanche victim under several feet of snow.  Last but
not least, Obermeyer's name is printed on the left chest pocket of the jacket as
well as on the lower back.
<<IMAGE GOES HERE. ALT TEXT = "IMAGE 5"  IMAGE CAPTION = "Cuffs">> <<IMAGE GOES
HERE. ALT TEXT = "IMAGE 6"  IMAGE CAPTION = "Underarm ventilation">> <<IMAGE
GOES HERE. ALT TEXT = "IMAGE 7"  IMAGE CAPTION = "Powder skirt">>
 
READING THE INSTRUCTIONS
 
As mentioned earlier, four hang tags were attached to the jacket zipper upon its
arrival.  The first was from 3M with details regarding Thinsulate; the second
hang tag was from Obermeyer and it provided a brief background on the company as
well as a sizing chart; the third hang tag was also from Obermeyer and it aptly
described the advanced design and construction features of the Kestral; the
final hang tag was from RECCO and it briefly described their avalanche rescue
system.
 
Care Instructions for the Kestral are listed on the jacket's collar tag. 
Obermeyer also provides detailed instructions on their website regarding how to
properly wash and care for the jacket.  Of particular note is that the DWR
finish can wear off or become masked by dirt over time.  When this happens,
washing can help restore the effectiveness of the finish and /or a new coating
of DWR can be applied at home.  My experience is that it is pretty easy to know
when either of these procedures is necessary as water no longer beads up on the
outside of the jacket.
 
Warranty: Obermeyer offers a lifetime warranty against defects in the materials
or workmanship of all of their products. The warranty does not cover normal wear
and tear, misuse, accidents, fading or the natural breakdown of materials over
time.
 
As someone who does most of his shopping online, I must say that Obermeyer's
website is very well laid out and easy to navigate, which is not an easy feat to
pull off while still providing the wealth of information they do about their
product line.  They have done a great job of describing each article of clothing
and I really like that they provide large, detailed product photos and allow
those photos to be rotated 360 degrees to provide a full view of their clothing
from all angles.  While on the website I also spent some time reading about the
history of the company and its founder, Klaus Obermeyer and found it quite
interesting.  In this age of large corporations, it was inspiring to read Klaus'
story and how his dream evolved into the company it is today.
 
TRYING IT OUT
 
I have been wearing the Kestral jacket around town for the past few days and
also went hiking at a local park this weekend.   When I went on my hike, it was
sunny and the temperature was just above freezing at 34 F (1 C).  My initial
thoughts after this brief examination of the Kestral are as follows:
 
I really like the materials that were used in the construction of this jacket. 
The shell is made with a very tightly woven polyester fabric that feels smooth
to the touch and durable.  It also has some stretch to it which I noticed after
moving around for a few minutes.  I think the stretch 'factor' gives it a better
fit and will allow me a larger range of motion while backpacking.  Based on
these factors, I am not too concerned about how this jacket will hold up in the
field.  From my initial exam it appears to be very durable and so I am not too
concerned about snagging it on a branch or wearing down the shoulders or waist
fabric from my backpack straps.  I also really like that the fabric drapes well
and isn't overly noisy as I move my arms back and forth while hiking.
 
In regards to construction, the Kestral's stitching is impeccable and I wasn't
able to find a single loose thread or blemish.  The zippers are solid and slide
readily back and forth.  The hood is generously sized and appears to be securely
fastened.  While hiking it was very easy for me to adjust the hood and as a
quick test I was easily able to remove it once back to my car.  Although the
Kestral does not have thumb inserts in the cuffs akin to some other winter
jackets, it still has very nice inner cuffs that are stretchy enough to prevent
cold air from getting up my sleeves.
 
As stated in my bio, I am a mid weight hiker and so I am not all that concerned
about carrying a few extra ounces for the sake of comfort or convenience.  In
this regard, I must say that I really like the fleece-lined hand pockets.  They
are a joy to use and well positioned so as not to interfere with my pack
straps.  In addition, they are plenty large to carry whatever I need.  I can see
myself using the sleeve pocket for various small items I may need to access
readily while on the trail.  Based on my initial hike this morning in 34 F (1 C)
weather, the Kestral was plenty warm with a long sleeve shirt underneath so much
so that I found myself trying out the underarm vents.  They were easy to open
and did a great job of venting some of the heat I had built up during my hike.
 
SUMMARY
 
I first became familiar with Obermeyer products a few years ago when I tested
one of their shell jackets.  I was impressed with the design and the quality of
their products back then and so I came into this test with high expectations for
this jacket.  So far the Kestral does not disappoint.  It has a stylish design,
a ton of great features, and, if it is as rugged as it appears, it will be a
sure winner.  One last note is that I had the opportunity to talk with
Obermeyer's customer service department and they are outstanding.  As a regular
'Joe' calling up asking questions about their products, they were extremely
knowledgeable and friendly.  This concludes my Initial Report for the Obermeyer
Kestral jacket.  Thank you to Sport Obermeyer and BackpackGearTest.org for the
opportunity to test this jacket.  I am really excited for the thermometer to
drop a few more degrees and the snow to start flying.
 
 
This report was created with the BGT Report Generator.
Copyright 2012.  All rights reserved.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Kerri,

For your editor's pen. HTML version is posted in the Tests folder at
http://tinyurl.com/a39h3hz

Cheers, Richard

__________________________________________________

DAHLGREN MEN'S BACKPACKING CREW SOCKS
Test Series by Richard Lyon

Initial Report November 17, 2012
Long Term Report expected mid-March 2013

Personal Details and Backpacking Background

Richard Lyon
Male, 66 years old
Height: 6'4" [1.91 m], Weight 205 lb [91 kg]
Home: Bozeman, Montana USA
Email: Montana DOT angler AT gmail DOT com
Shoe size: 13 US, 47 European

I've been backpacking regularly in the Rockies since 1986. I do at least one
weeklong trip every summer, and often take three-day trips. I'm usually camping
in alpine terrain, at altitudes 5000 to 10000 ft (1500-3000 m). I prefer base
camp backpacking, a long hike in with day trips from camp. Recently I've been
actively reducing my pack weight, but still sleep in a floored tent and often
include my favorite camp conveniences. Outdoor activities in winter are often on
telemark or touring skis.

INITIAL REPORT - November 17, 2012

THE SOCKS

Dahlgren 1 Dahlgren's Backpacking socks are crew length (over-the-ankle) wool
socks listed by that company as "Heavy Weight" and intended for, well,
backpacking.  In addition to Dahlgren's signature use of alpaca these socks
feature its new Dri-Stride technology.  To summarize from Dahlgren's website,
Dri-Stride employs Winking Rings and Wicking Channels (both of these are
patented and trademarked) in the Transfer Zone - the fabric encircling the
arch/instep area of the sock - to increase significantly the wicking from the
Absorption Zones (heel and toe).  The different areas of the sock have different
fabric content, presumably to facilitate wicking and add strength. The toe and
heel [solid brown in the photo below] are 55% merino wool, 28% nylon, 17%
alpaca; the arch/instep and Wicking Rings [double-knit flecked tan, then oblong
pattern] 70% recycled polyester 17% merino, 8% nylon, 5% alpaca; and the upper
[tan "striped"] 75% recycled polyester, 23% nylon, 2% Spandex. From a diagram on
the tag attached to the socks (which I tried unsuccessfully to copy) Dri-Stride
works by having each sock's construction drive the wicked-away perspiration to
the transfer zone and up to the top of the sock for evaporation.


Details:

Manufacturer: Dahlgren Footwear, Inc.
Website: http://www.dahlgrenfootwear.com
Product: Backpacking socks [located in Dahlgren's "Outdoor/Hiking" category]
Size: XL [for Men's US 11-13; also available in L for 8-10½]
Color: Bark [the only color for size L; also available in XL in Moss or Pitch]
Weight, measured: 4.0 oz (113 g) per pair
Height, measured heel to top:  9.5 in (24 cm)
MSRP: $20.95 US
Country of origin: All Dahlgren socks are made "exclusively" in the United
States.
Warranty: I couldn't find one on Dahlgren's website, though the company does
provide instructions on returns and suggests that it will replace defective
products. Customer pays for return to Dahlgren's facility in Oregon.

FIRST IMPRESSIONS

"Cozy" may not be a word often associated with backpacking gear, but it's the
best one-word description of these socks.  The alpaca makes these socks
exceptionally soft against my skin, and they have kept my feet warm on a couple
of chilly days around the house and on my daily walks with my dog.  Another
first impression is that these are relatively thick for crew-length socks, which
in my experience more closely resemble street-wear bulk in this category.

Dahlgren 2 Fit is good, in fact just about perfect, with my heel sitting flush
inside the heel of the sock, even though I am at the upper end of Dahlgren's
stated size range. The socks come several inches/centimeters above the cuff of
the boots (one pair full-grain leather, one pair GORE-TEX) I ordinary wear when
hiking or snowshoeing in winter.  The same is true of my ski touring boots, but,
alas, the socks are too short to wear with either my telemark or randonèe ski
boots. Fit is tight but not constraining at the top of the socks.

These socks are so comfortable that but for this test and my reporting
obligations I'd be tempted to limit their use to the front country.  But I'll do
my best to put them through their outdoor paces, when hiking, snowshoeing, and
ski touring this winter in the Rockies.

ACKNOWLEDGMENT

My Initial Report ends here, with thanks to Dahlgren and BackpackGearTest.org
for the chance to test these socks. Check back next March for my Long Term
Report and the results of a winter's wear.

Fed ex dropped it off, wow is this thing small!  IR to come.

-Alex Legg

Thank you Dawn for movin' up the ranks.

Jamie D

--- In backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com, "Kathy Waters" <kathy@...> wrote:
>
> Hear ye, hear ye!
>
> I'm pleased to announce that Dawn Larsen has be "promoted" to the position
> of Test Call Manager!  Dawn will be receiving a bonus salary roughly 2x her
> present renumeration for 10x her current work load. <g>
>
> Thank you Dawn for your continued participation in BGT!
>
> Kathy
>

There is a folder named Clothing/Socks/Dahlgren Expedition Socks
 
It should be named Clothing/Socks/Dahlgren Backpacking Socks
 
The manyfacturer changed the sock used for the test because they ran out of the
Expedition style
 
Thanks

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Brian,

Thank you for your prompt IR!  You had great pictures and very good detail
in the report.  I look forward to reading your adventures in this great
jacket.  I, personally, have several Obermeyer products and have been very
pleased with their quality and performance.

I have a few minor edits and a couple of request for more information.  I
know it's a pain, but could you please re-post for me before you upload?

Thanks!
Kathy

Measured Weight: 2.8 lbs (1,280 g)
EDIT:  Conversion should be 1.27 kg

After giving it a brief once-over, my initial impression was that it was a
great looking jacket (as seen in the photo above in Quarry gray color with
black pinstripes) and it appeared to be a very well made.
EDIT:  Delete the "a" between "be" and "very".

EDIT/COMMENT:  Under the "Product Description & Initial Impression" the
second paragraph is very detailed and a bit long.  I, being tired, had
trouble reading it.  I think (though it will mess up your neat format!) it
needs to be broken up into at least two paragraphs.

It would be nice if you explained why the EcoGenesis is "green friendly".

I also think that to avoid soundly like a PR advertising piece you need to
add some more "as reported by Obermeyer" - "is supposed to be", etc.  Right
now, you don't have any experience to be stating some of Obermeyer's claims.
Great info though - I liked the waterproof rating explanation.

The front of the jacket is also protected against air filtration by an
internal zipper windguard that measures approx 1.25 inches (3 cm) in width.
EDIT:  Please spell out "approximately".

The hood is fully adjustable via two drawcords on its lower left and ride
hand sides that can be used to loosen or tighten it as necessary.
EDIT:  Should be "left and right".

As a safety measure for those hiking in avalanche prone areas, the Kestral
is fitted with a RECCO rescue reflector.
EDIT:  Delete "As a safety measure" - RECCO is NOT as safety measure - it is
a passive reflector.

Also, you don't have to add it here, but at some point, please expound on
the fact that the RECCO is NOT a safety device!  It will NOT help an
avalanche victim - it will only help SARs to locate a body!  Very important
distinction from an active avalance beacon system where a live rescue is
possible.

COMMENT:  Is there only 1 RECCO?  I have two different Obermeyer jackets and
they all had more than that, so that's puzzling.

__________________________________________


----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Hartman
To: backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com
Cc: kathy@...
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 12:03 PM
Subject: [backpackgeartesters] IR - Obermeyer Kestral jacket - Brian Hartman



Hi Kathy,
Below is my Initial Report for the Obermeyer Kestral Jacket. The link to my
HTML report is
http://www.backpackgeartest.org/reviews/test/TESTS/IR%20-%20Obermeyer%20Kestral%\
20Jacket%20-%20Brian%20Hartman/

http://snurl.com/25mmnwk

Thanks,
Brian

Good morning Kathy,
No problem re-posting.  Thank you for the edits!
 
http://www.backpackgeartest.org/reviews/test/TESTS/IR%20-%20Obermeyer%20Kestral%\
20Jacket%20-%20Brian%20Hartman/
 
http://snurl.com/25mmnwkbackpackgeartest.org
 
Brian
 
 
INITIAL REPORT
    
PRODUCT INFORMATION & SPECIFICATIONS
 
<<IMAGE GOES HERE. ALT TEXT = "IMAGE 1"  IMAGE CAPTION = "Courtesy of
Obermeyer">>
Manufacturer: Sport Obermeyer
Year of Manufacture: 2012
Manufacturer's Website: <<HYPERLINK GOES HERE - "http://www.obermeyer.com/">>
MSRP: US $475.00
Listed Weight: Not Listed
Measured Weight: 2.8 lbs (1.27 kg)
Colors Available:  Baja, Bling, Black, Juice, Quarry
Color Tested: Quarry
Sizes Available: Small, Medium, Large, XL, 2XL
Size Tested: Small
Fabric / Coating: EcoGenesis - 100% polyester mechanical stretch with 20,000mm /
10,000g laminate
Insulation / Lining: Thinsulate; Cocona Baselayer - 52% Cocona polyester, 48%
polyester
Waterproofing: 20,000mm / 10,000g
Fit: Alpine Cut
 
Features:
  External storm flap with hook and loop closure
  Internal windguard with fleece chin protector
  Fully seam sealed
  Zippered hand warmer pockets with key holder and d-ring
  Zippered chest pockets with detachable goggle cloth
  Wrist accessory pocket with water resistant zipper
  Zip-off hood with 2-way adjustment
  Adjustable internal hem drawcord
  Brushed collar lining
  Gusseted cuffs with adjustable closure
  Stretch fleece inner cuffs
  Helmet compatible hood
  Internal zippered electronic pockets
  RECCO rescue reflector
  Underarm ventilation with mesh gussets
  Powderskirt with gripper elastic
 
PRODUCT DESCRIPTION & INITIAL IMPRESSION
 
<<IMAGE GOES HERE. ALT TEXT = "IMAGE 2"  IMAGE CAPTION = "Storm flap">> The
Obermeyer Kestral jacket arrived at my doorstep in great condition with four
hang tags attached.  After giving it a brief once-over, my initial impression
was that it was a great looking jacket (as seen in the photo above in Quarry
gray color with black pinstripes) and it appeared to be very well made.
 
As reported by Obermeyer, the Kestral jacket (hereafter called Kestral or
jacket) is a waterproof / breathable insulated jacket utilizing Obermeyer's
green friendly EcoGenesis stretch fabric.  EcoGenesis is made from 100%
polyester, 53% of which is recycled from PET bottles.  In fact, the entire
jacket (shell, lining and insulation) is made of 100% polyester fibers. 
Waterproofing and breathability are accomplished by adding the manufacturer's
proprietary 'Hydroblock' microporous coating and 'Duroguard' DWR finish to the
jacket which help give it its 20,000mm / 10,000g rating.  Hydroblock is a
polyurethane coating that the manufacturer claims prevents water from
penetrating the shell while still allowing body moisture to evaporate out.  It
does this by reducing the size of the fabric pores such that water droplets are
too large to enter but water vapor can still pass through.  For added
protection, the Duroguard finish is applied as a hydrophobic
  coating to the exterior of the jacket to increase surface tension causing water
to bead up.  As noted on Obermeyer's website, Duroguard also makes the fabric
more durable and helps prevent stains.
 
The significance of the waterproof / breathability rating system mentioned above
is that manufacturers can use a standardized test to determine the waterproof /
breathability rating of their clothing and then display their results for
marketing purposes and to allow consumers to compare clothing based on their
particular needs.  Finally, the jacket is fully seam sealed which should help
prevent any water permeation through the stitched areas where the fabric is sewn
together.
 
The Kestral has a full-length front zipper with a 1.5 inches (4 cm) wide
exterior storm flap that is secured by six hook and loop closures.  The storm
flap prevents water from seeping through the front zipper, which is not
waterproof.  The front of the jacket is also protected against air filtration
by an internal zipper windguard that measures approximately 1.25 inches (3 cm)
in width.  Moving to the top of the jacket, the top 8 inches (20 cm) of the
windguard is fleece-lined on the inside as a chin protector.  As an added
bonus, the entire inside of the jacket collar, which stands 4 inches (10 cm)
tall, is fleece-lined.  The hood is fully adjustable via two drawcords on its
lower left and right hand sides that can be used to loosen or tighten it as
necessary.  The hood can also be adjusted vertically using a drawcord that is
located on the back side of the hood.  It is secured to the back of the jacket
by a zipper and two hook and loop closures
  that hold it in place on the sides.  The hood is also fully detachable and is
large enough to be worn with a helmet for ice climbing or downhill skiing.
 
<<IMAGE GOES HERE. ALT TEXT = "IMAGE 3"  IMAGE CAPTION = "Interior pocket">> 
<<IMAGE GOES HERE. ALT TEXT = "IMAGE 4"  IMAGE CAPTION = "Sleeve pocket">> The
Kestral has five exterior and two interior pockets.  Starting with the exterior
pockets, the two front hand pockets measure 7.5 inches (19 cm) deep by 11 inches
(28 cm) tall.  These pockets are fleece-lined and are covered by storm flaps. 
The right hand pocket houses a plastic D-clip for securing car keys or some
other object.  Moving upwards, the right chest pocket is protected by a
waterproof zipper and measures 6 inches (15 cm) by 6 inches (15 cm) while the
left chest pocket is secured by a regular zipper and storm flap and measures 5
inches (13 cm) deep by 8 inches (20 cm) tall.  This pocket contains a
detachable goggle cloth which I already know will come in handy when my glasses
fog up or get dirty.  The fifth and final exterior pocket is located on the
left sleeve and is protected by
  a waterproof zipper.  It measures 4 inches (10 cm) by 5 inches (13 cm).  Both
interior pockets are mesh.  The right interior pocket has a hook and loop
closure and measures 8 inches (20 cm) deep by 7 inches (18 cm) tall while the
left interior pocket is zippered and is 5 inches (13 cm) deep by 9 inches (23
cm) tall.
 
For improved ventilation, the Kestral jacket has underarm zippers with mesh
gussets.  They provide a convenient way to release excess body heat and
perspiration while doing strenuous hiking.  When fully unzipped each opening
measures 14 inches (35 cm).  For decreased ventilation and / or to prevent cold
air from entering the jacket, the Kestral has gusseted cuffs that are fully
adjustable via hook and loop closures.  The inner cuffs work very well in
providing enough stretch to seal off any air flow coming up the sleeves. 
Another place where cold air tends to enter most jackets is at the waist line
and so Obermeyer has incorporated a powder skirt into the Kestral.  The powder
skirt has an elastic waistband that helps prevent cold air flow (and snow) from
entering the jacket around the waist.  The jacket also has an adjustable
drawcord located at its lower hem to help seal out cold air as well as snow.
 
For those hiking in avalanche prone areas, the Kestral is fitted with a RECCO
rescue reflector.  The reflector is a small device that is sewn into the right
shoulder of the jacket.  When used in conjunction with RECCO's radar detectors
which are standard issue for most search and rescue teams, it helps locate an
avalanche victim under several feet of snow.  Last but not least, Obermeyer's
name is printed on the left chest pocket of the jacket as well as on the lower
back.
<<IMAGE GOES HERE. ALT TEXT = "IMAGE 5"  IMAGE CAPTION = "Cuffs">> <<IMAGE GOES
HERE. ALT TEXT = "IMAGE 6"  IMAGE CAPTION = "Underarm ventilation">> <<IMAGE
GOES HERE. ALT TEXT = "IMAGE 7"  IMAGE CAPTION = "Powder skirt">>
 
READING THE INSTRUCTIONS
 
As mentioned earlier, four hang tags were attached to the jacket zipper upon its
arrival.  The first was from 3M with details regarding Thinsulate; the second
hang tag was from Obermeyer and it provided a brief background on the company as
well as a sizing chart; the third hang tag was also from Obermeyer and it aptly
described the advanced design and construction features of the Kestral; the
final hang tag was from RECCO and it briefly described their avalanche rescue
system.
 
Care Instructions for the Kestral are listed on the jacket's collar tag. 
Obermeyer also provides detailed instructions on their website regarding how to
properly wash and care for the jacket.  Of particular note is that the DWR
finish can wear off or become masked by dirt over time.  When this happens,
washing can help restore the effectiveness of the finish and /or a new coating
of DWR can be applied at home.  My experience is that it is pretty easy to know
when either of these procedures is necessary as water no longer beads up on the
outside of the jacket.
 
Warranty: Obermeyer offers a lifetime warranty against defects in the materials
or workmanship of all of their products. The warranty does not cover normal wear
and tear, misuse, accidents, fading or the natural breakdown of materials over
time.
 
As someone who does most of his shopping online, I must say that Obermeyer's
website is very well laid out and easy to navigate, which is not an easy feat to
pull off while still providing the wealth of information they do about their
product line.  They have done a great job of describing each article of
clothing and I really like that they provide large, detailed product photos and
allow those photos to be rotated 360 degrees to provide a full view of their
clothing from all angles.  While on the website I also spent some time reading
about the history of the company and its founder, Klaus Obermeyer and found it
quite interesting.  In this age of large corporations, it was inspiring to read
Klaus' story and how his dream evolved into the company it is today.
 
TRYING IT OUT
 
I have been wearing the Kestral jacket around town for the past few days and
also went hiking at a local park this weekend.   When I went on my hike, it
was sunny and the temperature was just above freezing at 34 F (1 C).  My
initial thoughts after this brief examination of the Kestral are as follows:
 
I really like the materials that were used in the construction of this jacket. 
The shell is made with a very tightly woven polyester fabric that feels smooth
to the touch and durable.  It also has some stretch to it which I noticed after
moving around for a few minutes.  I think the stretch 'factor' gives it a
better fit and will allow me a larger range of motion while backpacking.  Based
on these factors, I am not too concerned about how this jacket will hold up in
the field.  From my initial exam it appears to be very durable and so I am not
too concerned about snagging it on a branch or wearing down the shoulders or
waist fabric from my backpack straps.  I also really like that the fabric
drapes well and isn't overly noisy as I move my arms back and forth while
hiking.
 
In regards to construction, the Kestral's stitching is impeccable and I wasn't
able to find a single loose thread or blemish.  The zippers are solid and slide
readily back and forth.  The hood is generously sized and appears to be
securely fastened.  While hiking it was very easy for me to adjust the hood and
as a quick test I was easily able to remove it once back to my car.  Although
the Kestral does not have thumb inserts in the cuffs akin to some other winter
jackets, it still has very nice inner cuffs that are stretchy enough to prevent
cold air from getting up my sleeves.
 
As stated in my bio, I am a mid weight hiker and so I am not all that concerned
about carrying a few extra ounces for the sake of comfort or convenience.  In
this regard, I must say that I really like the fleece-lined hand pockets.  They
are a joy to use and well positioned so as not to interfere with my pack
straps.  In addition, they are plenty large to carry whatever I need.  I can
see myself using the sleeve pocket for various small items I may need to access
readily while on the trail.  Based on my initial hike this morning in 34 F (1
C) weather, the Kestral was plenty warm with a long sleeve shirt underneath so
much so that I found myself trying out the underarm vents.  They were easy to
open and did a great job of venting some of the heat I had built up during my
hike.
 
SUMMARY
 
I first became familiar with Obermeyer products a few years ago when I tested
one of their shell jackets.  I was impressed with the design and the quality of
their products back then and so I came into this test with high expectations for
this jacket.  So far the Kestral does not disappoint.  It has a stylish
design, a ton of great features, and, if it is as rugged as it appears, it will
be a sure winner.  One last note is that I had the opportunity to talk with
Obermeyer's customer service department and they are outstanding.  As a regular
'Joe' calling up asking questions about their products, they were extremely
knowledgeable and friendly.  This concludes my Initial Report for the Obermeyer
Kestral jacket.  Thank you to Sport Obermeyer and BackpackGearTest.org for the
opportunity to test this jacket.  I am really excited for the thermometer to
drop a few more degrees and the snow to start flying.
 
 
This report was created with the BGT Report Generator.
Copyright 2012.  All rights reserved.
 

________________________________
  From: Kathy Waters <kathy@...>
To: backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 11:07 PM
Subject: [backpackgeartesters] EDIT:  IR - Obermeyer Kestral jacket - Brian
Hartman


 

Brian,

Thank you for your prompt IR!  You had great pictures and very good detail
in the report.  I look forward to reading your adventures in this great
jacket.  I, personally, have several Obermeyer products and have been very
pleased with their quality and performance.

I have a few minor edits and a couple of request for more information.  I
know it's a pain, but could you please re-post for me before you upload?

Thanks!
Kathy

Measured Weight: 2.8 lbs (1,280 g)
EDIT:  Conversion should be 1.27 kg

After giving it a brief once-over, my initial impression was that it was a
great looking jacket (as seen in the photo above in Quarry gray color with
black pinstripes) and it appeared to be a very well made.
EDIT:  Delete the "a" between "be" and "very".

EDIT/COMMENT:  Under the "Product Description & Initial Impression" the
second paragraph is very detailed and a bit long.  I, being tired, had
trouble reading it.  I think (though it will mess up your neat format!) it
needs to be broken up into at least two paragraphs.

It would be nice if you explained why the EcoGenesis is "green friendly".

I also think that to avoid soundly like a PR advertising piece you need to
add some more "as reported by Obermeyer" - "is supposed to be", etc.  Right
now, you don't have any experience to be stating some of Obermeyer's claims.
Great info though - I liked the waterproof rating explanation.

The front of the jacket is also protected against air filtration by an
internal zipper windguard that measures approx 1.25 inches (3 cm) in width.
EDIT:  Please spell out "approximately".

The hood is fully adjustable via two drawcords on its lower left and ride
hand sides that can be used to loosen or tighten it as necessary.
EDIT:  Should be "left and right".

As a safety measure for those hiking in avalanche prone areas, the Kestral
is fitted with a RECCO rescue reflector.
EDIT:  Delete "As a safety measure" - RECCO is NOT as safety measure - it is
a passive reflector.

Also, you don't have to add it here, but at some point, please expound on
the fact that the RECCO is NOT a safety device!  It will NOT help an
avalanche victim - it will only help SARs to locate a body!  Very important
distinction from an active avalance beacon system where a live rescue is
possible.

COMMENT:  Is there only 1 RECCO?  I have two different Obermeyer jackets and
they all had more than that, so that's puzzling.

__________________________________________

----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Hartman
To: mailto:backpackgeartesters%40yahoogroups.com
Cc: mailto:kathy%40backpackgeartest.com
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 12:03 PM
Subject: [backpackgeartesters] IR - Obermeyer Kestral jacket - Brian Hartman

Hi Kathy,
Below is my Initial Report for the Obermeyer Kestral Jacket. The link to my
HTML report is
http://www.backpackgeartest.org/reviews/test/TESTS/IR%20-%20Obermeyer%20Kestral%\
20Jacket%20-%20Brian%20Hartman/

http://snurl.com/25mmnwk

Thanks,
Brian





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Kathy, I've uploaded my IR for your review at http://tinyurl.com/a6gwh8k.  This
seems to be a great jacket!  I can't wait to get out and play with it :) Text
version follows.  Thanks in advance for your edits! Initial
Report
Product
Information & Specifications
Manufacturer: Sport Obermeyer
Year of
Manufacture:  2012Manufacturer's Website:
www.obermeyer.comMSRP: $475Listed Weight: N/AMeasured Weight: 3 lb 1.9 oz (1.4
kg)Size Tested:  XL (Also available in XS, Small, Medium, Large, ,
2XL)Colors Available: Baja, Bling, Black, Juice, QuarryColor Tested: Juice
Fabric/Coating: EcoGenesis - 100% polyester
mechanical stretch with 20,000mm / 10,000g laminateInsulation/Lining:
Thinsulate; Cocona Baselayer
- 52% Cocona polyester, 48% polyester
Product DescriptionThe Obermeyer Kestral Insulated Jacket, hereafter
referred to as the "Kestral" or "jacket," is an insulated, hooded winter
jacket.   The Kestral is a waterproof jacket, courtesy of the DWR finish,
Duroguard.  The jacket also uses a microporous coating called Hydroblock that
helps prevent water from coming through the pours while allowing water vapor to
escape.  The shell is made from the EcoGenesis stretch fabric and is 100%
polyester.   The jacket arrived with five hangtags affixed to the zipper of the
left pocket.  One is for pricing, another for Thinsulate, one for RECCO and the
other two for various features of the jacket from Obermeyer.
The jacket
features a full length zipper down the front with a generous storm flap held
tight by six hoop and loop closures.  The zipper pull is a sturdy and large
enough to grasp with gloves and mittens.  A nice touch is that the top of the
zipper is lined with fleece so my chin shouldn't be rubbed raw in the cold!  The
manufacturer also points out that the collar provides wind protection and is
fleece-lined all the way around.  There is a removable hood that is oversized to
fit a ski helmet underneath.  The hood is held in place by a YKK zipper as well
as several hook and loop closures.  The hood is adjustable 2 ways; first to
cinch around my face and second to pull the hood back.  This latter feature is
helpful when there isn't a helmet on my head.  I've been told I have a big head,
but not THAT big!


The jacket body has nice, clean lines.  There are
pockets for my hands that are fleece-lined and zippered.  Inside the right
pocket there is a clip for keys.  Inside the left pocket is a d-ring.  There are
also chest pockets on both sides of the jacket.  The right side has a waterproof
zipper.  The left pocket is a standard zippered pocket, but does have a storm
flap over it.  It also has a goggle cloth that is affixed to an elastic strip by
a simple snap.  In both of these pockets, the zipper pulls are courtesy of
cordage with a plastic nub to make it easy to grasp.  There are also zippered
armpits for ventilation.  These pits have a mesh fabric and extend 14 in (36 cm)
lengthwise and about 3 in (8 cm) wide at the center.

One other unique
zippered pocket is on the left arm.  It has a 6 in (15 cm) zippered opening and
a pocket deep enough for my iPhone.  I'm not quite sure what I will use that for
yet.  As for the cuffs of the Kestral, they are gusseted with adjustable, hook
and loop closures.  They also feature an inner cuff that is fleece-lined with a
stretch fabric.  This is a great touch, especially when I am
snowboarding!

I should also point out that the Kestral utilizes RECCO
avalanche recovery system.  While this is not a typically viable rescue system
in the backcountry in the unfortunate avalanche tragedy, it is comforting to
know that should I use this jacket on the resort slopes here in Colorado.  I
have no plans to use this feature, so hopefully I will have nothing more to say
on the matter!

The insulation is courtesy of Thinsulate. I can feel the
insulation throughout the jacket and it does give the Kestral some heft.  The
inside of the jacket is partly fleece-lined with the remaining fabric a soft and
smooth synthetic.  This fabric has some patterns and the Obermeyer name printed
on it.  There is a nice 6 x 4 in (15 x 10 cm) yellow patch near the nape of my
neck that has the same pattern and name on it as well,  Below the patch are tags
with the sizing and materials used.  Further down, at the base of the jacket are
several other tags; one for care instruction, one for Thinsulate and the last
one for the government regulators ("this tag not to be
removed...").

There are two interior mesh pockets as well.  The first one
is on the right side and is oversized to accommodate goggles.  The other pocket
is on the left side and is zippered with the same water resistant zipper as some
of the outside pockets.  Inside this pocket is another pocket made of fleece
ideal for holding electronics, such as my phone or music player.  This pocket
has an elastic strip sewn into the opening to help keep items in one place.
  Just above the mesh pocket is a small fabric loop.  This loop would be ideal to
string my headphones through so the wire doesn't pull on my ears as I ride or
hike.
There is a powder skirt also included with the
Kestral.  It has snaps that keep it tucked away in the back but then also to
connect it around my waist when I am snowboarding.  The powder skirt also has an
elastic band that has a side that "grips" my clothing, helping it to stay put
and the snow out.  Beneath the  powder skirt but easily accessible is another
adjustable drawcord for the hem.

According to the manufacturer, the
jacket comes fully seam sealed. According to the website, the manufacturer has a
lifetime warranty for manufacturer defects.  The language is very inviting,
which is pretty neat to see.  Initial Impressions
One thing that is quicky apparent is how well the
jacket is constructed.  There are no loose threads, the quality of craftsmanship
is superior and the fabric chosen seems to be of a very high quality.  The
jacket barely looks thicker than a shell so it is heavier than it first looks.
  I don't find it to be excessively hefty, however.

My first hike with the Kestral was just a short
hike with my dogs in the neighborhood.  It was just above freezing, so an ideal
opportunity for a brisk walk!  The hood is really big and it kept flopping into
my face until I could find the "sweet spot" by adjusting the drawcords.  The
brim is not especially stiff but holds a shape pretty well.  I should also say
that the insulation is excellent!  I could not feel any drafts, stayed warm and
didn't feel sweaty inside.  I usually size
up for shells so that I have space for additional layers.  Because this is an
insulated jacket I wasn't sure if I would need that, but I decided to go with a
larger size anyway.  I don't think it will be an issue since the fit is pretty
good.  I definitely have space for another layer or two and the jacket hangs
nice on me.  I can imagine that it could easily get warm under a backpack so I
am anxious to get out in the field and start testing it!
SummaryThe Obermeyer Kestral Insulated jacket appears to
be a fine jacket off the shelf.  I'm curious to see how I like it while hiking.
  I have some hut trips and backcountry snowboarding trips coming up over the
duration of the test, so the Kestral should get a solid workout!Pros: Excellent
construction, warm so far.  Cons: none so far.This concludes my Initial Report. 
I would like to
thank Obermeyer for their generosity as
well as the folks at BackpackGearTest.org for allowing me to be a part of this
test series.
  Please check back in about four months to see how much I enjoyed the Kestral
out in the backcountry!

Brett Haydin

---------------------------------------------------

"Teamwork: It's amazing how much
   can be accomplished when no one
   cares who gets the credit."


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Jerry,

Duly revised.

Richard

--- In backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com, jerry adams <jerryaadams@...> wrote:
>
> There is a folder named Clothing/Socks/Dahlgren Expedition Socks
>  
> It should be named Clothing/Socks/Dahlgren Backpacking Socks
>  
> The manyfacturer changed the sock used for the test because they ran out of
the Expedition style
>  
> Thanks
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Brian,

That's great!  Thank you for your gracious acceptance of my edits!  All is well
and you are free to upload to the proper folder.  Please remember to delete your
test file.

Here's hoping for lots of snow!  See you in two months.

Kathy

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Brian Hartman
   To: kathy@...
   Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 7:13 AM
   Subject: Fw: [backpackgeartesters] EDIT: IR - Obermeyer Kestral jacket - Brian
Hartman


   Kathy,
   The snurl below is incorrect.  Please use this one instead:
http://snurl.com/25mmnwk
   Thanks,
   Brian

   ----- Forwarded Message -----
   From: Brian Hartman <bhart1426@...>
   To: "backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com"
<backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com>
   Cc: "kathy@..." <kathy@...>
   Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 9:06 AM
   Subject: Re: [backpackgeartesters] EDIT: IR - Obermeyer Kestral jacket - Brian
Hartman

   Good morning Kathy,
   No problem re-posting.  Thank you for the edits!

  
http://www.backpackgeartest.org/reviews/test/TESTS/IR%20-%20Obermeyer%20Kestral%\
20Jacket%20-%20Brian%20Hartman/

   http://snurl.com/25mmnwkbackpackgeartest.org

   Brian


   INITIAL REPORT    PRODUCT INFORMATION & SPECIFICATIONS <<IMAGE GOES HERE. ALT
TEXT = "IMAGE 1"  IMAGE CAPTION = "Courtesy of Obermeyer">>Manufacturer: Sport
ObermeyerYear of Manufacture: 2012Manufacturer's Website: <<HYPERLINK GOES HERE
- "http://www.obermeyer.com/">>MSRP: US $475.00Listed Weight: Not ListedMeasured
Weight: 2.8 lbs (1.27 kg)
   Colors Available:  Baja, Bling, Black, Juice, QuarryColor Tested: QuarrySizes
Available: Small, Medium, Large, XL, 2XLSize Tested: SmallFabric / Coating:
EcoGenesis - 100% polyester mechanical stretch with 20,000mm / 10,000g
laminateInsulation / Lining: Thinsulate; Cocona Baselayer - 52% Cocona
polyester, 48% polyesterWaterproofing: 20,000mm / 10,000gFit: Alpine Cut

   Features:  External storm flap with hook and loop closure  Internal windguard
with fleece chin protector  Fully seam sealed  Zippered hand warmer pockets with
key holder and d-ring  Zippered chest pockets with detachable goggle cloth 
Wrist accessory pocket with water resistant zipper  Zip-off hood with 2-way
adjustment  Adjustable internal hem drawcord  Brushed collar lining  Gusseted
cuffs with adjustable closure  Stretch fleece inner cuffs  Helmet compatible
hood  Internal zippered electronic pockets  RECCO rescue reflector  Underarm
ventilation with mesh gussets  Powderskirt with gripper elastic PRODUCT
DESCRIPTION & INITIAL IMPRESSION <<IMAGE GOES HERE. ALT TEXT = "IMAGE 2"  IMAGE
CAPTION = "Storm flap">> The Obermeyer Kestral jacket arrived at my doorstep in
great condition with four hang tags attached.  After giving it a brief
once-over, my initial impression was that it was a great looking jacket (as seen
in the photo above in Quarry gray color with black pinstripes) and it appeared
to be very well made.

   As reported by Obermeyer, the Kestral jacket (hereafter called Kestral or
jacket) is a waterproof / breathable insulated jacket utilizing Obermeyer's
green friendly EcoGenesis stretch fabric.  EcoGenesis is made from 100%
polyester, 53% of which is recycled from PET bottles.  In fact, the entire
jacket (shell, lining and insulation) is made of 100% polyester fibers. 
Waterproofing and breathability are accomplished by adding the manufacturer's
proprietary 'Hydroblock' microporous coating and 'Duroguard' DWR finish to the
jacket which help give it its 20,000mm / 10,000g rating.  Hydroblock is a
polyurethane coating that the manufacturer claims prevents water from
penetrating the shell while still allowing body moisture to evaporate out.  It
does this by reducing the size of the fabric pores such that water droplets are
too large to enter but water vapor can still pass through.  For added
protection, the Duroguard finish is applied as a hydrophobic coating to the
exterior of the jacket to increase surface tension causing water to bead up.  As
noted on Obermeyer's website, Duroguard also makes the fabric more durable and
helps prevent stains.

   The significance of the waterproof / breathability rating system mentioned
above is that manufacturers can use a standardized test to determine the
waterproof / breathability rating of their clothing and then display their
results for marketing purposes and to allow consumers to compare clothing based
on their particular needs.  Finally, the jacket is fully seam sealed which
should help prevent any water permeation through the stitched areas where the
fabric is sewn together.

   The Kestral has a full-length front zipper with a 1.5 inches (4 cm) wide
exterior storm flap that is secured by six hook and loop closures.  The storm
flap prevents water from seeping through the front zipper, which is not
waterproof.  The front of the jacket is also protected against air filtration by
an internal zipper windguard that measures approximately 1.25 inches (3 cm) in
width.  Moving to the top of the jacket, the top 8 inches (20 cm) of the
windguard is fleece-lined on the inside as a chin protector.  As an added bonus,
the entire inside of the jacket collar, which stands 4 inches (10 cm) tall, is
fleece-lined.  The hood is fully adjustable via two drawcords on its lower left
and right hand sides that can be used to loosen or tighten it as necessary.  The
hood can also be adjusted vertically using a drawcord that is located on the
back side of the hood.  It is secured to the back of the jacket by a zipper and
two hook and loop closures that hold it in place on the sides.  The hood is also
fully detachable and is large enough to be worn with a helmet for ice climbing
or downhill skiing.

   <<IMAGE GOES HERE. ALT TEXT = "IMAGE 3"  IMAGE CAPTION = "Interior pocket">> 
<<IMAGE GOES HERE. ALT TEXT = "IMAGE 4"  IMAGE CAPTION = "Sleeve pocket">> The
Kestral has five exterior and two interior pockets.  Starting with the exterior
pockets, the two front hand pockets measure 7.5 inches (19 cm) deep by 11 inches
(28 cm) tall.  These pockets are fleece-lined and are covered by storm flaps. 
The right hand pocket houses a plastic D-clip for securing car keys or some
other object.  Moving upwards, the right chest pocket is protected by a
waterproof zipper and measures 6 inches (15 cm) by 6 inches (15 cm) while the
left chest pocket is secured by a regular zipper and storm flap and measures 5
inches (13 cm) deep by 8 inches (20 cm) tall.  This pocket contains a detachable
goggle cloth which I already know will come in handy when my glasses fog up or
get dirty.  The fifth and final exterior pocket is located on the left sleeve
and is protected by a waterproof zipper.  It measures 4 inches (10 cm) by 5
inches (13 cm).  Both interior pockets are mesh.  The right interior pocket has
a hook and loop closure and measures 8 inches (20 cm) deep by 7 inches (18 cm)
tall while the left interior pocket is zippered and is 5 inches (13 cm) deep by
9 inches (23 cm) tall.

   For improved ventilation, the Kestral jacket has underarm zippers with mesh
gussets.  They provide a convenient way to release excess body heat and
perspiration while doing strenuous hiking.  When fully unzipped each opening
measures 14 inches (35 cm).  For decreased ventilation and / or to prevent cold
air from entering the jacket, the Kestral has gusseted cuffs that are fully
adjustable via hook and loop closures.  The inner cuffs work very well in
providing enough stretch to seal off any air flow coming up the sleeves. 
Another place where cold air tends to enter most jackets is at the waist line
and so Obermeyer has incorporated a powder skirt into the Kestral.  The powder
skirt has an elastic waistband that helps prevent cold air flow (and snow) from
entering the jacket around the waist.  The jacket also has an adjustable
drawcord located at its lower hem to help seal out cold air as well as snow.

   For those hiking in avalanche prone areas, the Kestral is fitted with a RECCO
rescue reflector.  The reflector is a small device that is sewn into the right
shoulder of the jacket.  When used in conjunction with RECCO's radar detectors
which are standard issue for most search and rescue teams, it helps locate an
avalanche victim under several feet of snow.  Last but not least, Obermeyer's
name is printed on the left chest pocket of the jacket as well as on the lower
back.
   <<IMAGE GOES HERE. ALT TEXT = "IMAGE 5"  IMAGE CAPTION = "Cuffs">> <<IMAGE
GOES HERE. ALT TEXT = "IMAGE 6"  IMAGE CAPTION = "Underarm ventilation">>
<<IMAGE GOES HERE. ALT TEXT = "IMAGE 7"  IMAGE CAPTION = "Powder skirt">>
    READING THE INSTRUCTIONS As mentioned earlier, four hang tags were attached
to the jacket zipper upon its arrival.  The first was from 3M with details
regarding Thinsulate; the second hang tag was from Obermeyer and it provided a
brief background on the company as well as a sizing chart; the third hang tag
was also from Obermeyer and it aptly described the advanced design and
construction features of the Kestral; the final hang tag was from RECCO and it
briefly described their avalanche rescue system.

   Care Instructions for the Kestral are listed on the jacket's collar tag. 
Obermeyer also provides detailed instructions on their website regarding how to
properly wash and care for the jacket.  Of particular note is that the DWR
finish can wear off or become masked by dirt over time.  When this happens,
washing can help restore the effectiveness of the finish and /or a new coating
of DWR can be applied at home.  My experience is that it is pretty easy to know
when either of these procedures is necessary as water no longer beads up on the
outside of the jacket.

   Warranty: Obermeyer offers a lifetime warranty against defects in the
materials or workmanship of all of their products. The warranty does not cover
normal wear and tear, misuse, accidents, fading or the natural breakdown of
materials over time.

   As someone who does most of his shopping online, I must say that Obermeyer's
website is very well laid out and easy to navigate, which is not an easy feat to
pull off while still providing the wealth of information they do about their
product line.  They have done a great job of describing each article of clothing
and I really like that they provide large, detailed product photos and allow
those photos to be rotated 360 degrees to provide a full view of their clothing
from all angles.  While on the website I also spent some time reading about the
history of the company and its founder, Klaus Obermeyer and found it quite
interesting.  In this age of large corporations, it was inspiring to read Klaus'
story and how his dream evolved into the company it is today.
    TRYING IT OUT I have been wearing the Kestral jacket around town for the past
few days and also went hiking at a local park this weekend.   When I went on my
hike, it was sunny and the temperature was just above freezing at 34 F (1 C). 
My initial thoughts after this brief examination of the Kestral are as follows:

   I really like the materials that were used in the construction of this jacket.
The shell is made with a very tightly woven polyester fabric that feels smooth
to the touch and durable.  It also has some stretch to it which I noticed after
moving around for a few minutes.  I think the stretch 'factor' gives it a better
fit and will allow me a larger range of motion while backpacking.  Based on
these factors, I am not too concerned about how this jacket will hold up in the
field.  From my initial exam it appears to be very durable and so I am not too
concerned about snagging it on a branch or wearing down the shoulders or waist
fabric from my backpack straps.  I also really like that the fabric drapes well
and isn't overly noisy as I move my arms back and forth while hiking.

   In regards to construction, the Kestral's stitching is impeccable and I wasn't
able to find a single loose thread or blemish.  The zippers are solid and slide
readily back and forth.  The hood is generously sized and appears to be securely
fastened.  While hiking it was very easy for me to adjust the hood and as a
quick test I was easily able to remove it once back to my car.  Although the
Kestral does not have thumb inserts in the cuffs akin to some other winter
jackets, it still has very nice inner cuffs that are stretchy enough to prevent
cold air from getting up my sleeves.

   As stated in my bio, I am a mid weight hiker and so I am not all that
concerned about carrying a few extra ounces for the sake of comfort or
convenience.  In this regard, I must say that I really like the fleece-lined
hand pockets.  They are a joy to use and well positioned so as not to interfere
with my pack straps.  In addition, they are plenty large to carry whatever I
need.  I can see myself using the sleeve pocket for various small items I may
need to access readily while on the trail.  Based on my initial hike this
morning in 34 F (1 C) weather, the Kestral was plenty warm with a long sleeve
shirt underneath so much so that I found myself trying out the underarm vents. 
They were easy to open and did a great job of venting some of the heat I had
built up during my hike. SUMMARY I first became familiar with Obermeyer products
a few years ago when I tested one of their shell jackets.  I was impressed with
the design and the quality of their products back then and so I came into this
test with high expectations for this jacket.  So far the Kestral does not
disappoint.  It has a stylish design, a ton of great features, and, if it is as
rugged as it appears, it will be a sure winner.  One last note is that I had the
opportunity to talk with Obermeyer's customer service department and they are
outstanding.  As a regular 'Joe' calling up asking questions about their
products, they were extremely knowledgeable and friendly.  This concludes my
Initial Report for the Obermeyer Kestral jacket.  Thank you to Sport Obermeyer
and BackpackGearTest.org for the opportunity to test this jacket.  I am really
excited for the thermometer to drop a few more degrees and the snow to start
flying.
     This report was created with the BGT Report Generator.Copyright 2012.  All
rights reserved.

   From: Kathy Waters <kathy@...>
   To: backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 11:07 PM
   Subject: [backpackgeartesters] EDIT: IR - Obermeyer Kestral jacket - Brian
Hartman


   Brian, Thank you for your prompt IR! You had great pictures and very good
detail in the report. I look forward to reading your adventures in this great
jacket. I, personally, have several Obermeyer products and have been very
pleased with their quality and performance. I have a few minor edits and a
couple of request for more information. I know it's a pain, but could you please
re-post for me before you upload? Thanks! Kathy Measured Weight: 2.8 lbs (1,280
g) EDIT: Conversion should be 1.27 kg After giving it a brief once-over, my
initial impression was that it was a great looking jacket (as seen in the photo
above in Quarry gray color with black pinstripes) and it appeared to be a very
well made. EDIT: Delete the "a" between "be" and "very". EDIT/COMMENT: Under the
"Product Description & Initial Impression" the second paragraph is very detailed
and a bit long. I, being tired, had trouble reading it. I think (though it will
mess up your neat format!) it needs to be broken up into at least two
paragraphs. It would be nice if you explained why the EcoGenesis is "green
friendly". I also think that to avoid soundly like a PR advertising piece you
need to add some more "as reported by Obermeyer" - "is supposed to be", etc.
Right now, you don't have any experience to be stating some of Obermeyer's
claims. Great info though - I liked the waterproof rating explanation. The front
of the jacket is also protected against air filtration by an internal zipper
windguard that measures approx 1.25 inches (3 cm) in width. EDIT: Please spell
out "approximately". The hood is fully adjustable via two drawcords on its lower
left and ride hand sides that can be used to loosen or tighten it as necessary.
EDIT: Should be "left and right". As a safety measure for those hiking in
avalanche prone areas, the Kestral is fitted with a RECCO rescue reflector.
EDIT: Delete "As a safety measure" - RECCO is NOT as safety measure - it is a
passive reflector. Also, you don't have to add it here, but at some point,
please expound on the fact that the RECCO is NOT a safety device! It will NOT
help an avalanche victim - it will only help SARs to locate a body! Very
important distinction from an active avalance beacon system where a live rescue
is possible. COMMENT: Is there only 1 RECCO? I have two different Obermeyer
jackets and they all had more than that, so that's puzzling.
__________________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From:
Brian Hartman To: mailto:backpackgeartesters%40yahoogroups.com Cc:
mailto:kathy%40backpackgeartest.com Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 12:03 PM
Subject: [backpackgeartesters] IR - Obermeyer Kestral jacket - Brian Hartman Hi
Kathy, Below is my Initial Report for the Obermeyer Kestral Jacket. The link to
my HTML report is
http://www.backpackgeartest.org/reviews/test/TESTS/IR%20-%20Obermeyer%20Kestral%\
20Jacket%20-%20Brian%20Hartman/ http://snurl.com/25mmnwk Thanks, Brian


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I will continue to display this report as completed in the Test Administration
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Brett,

Thanks for your prompt IR and an easy edit.  Some minor edits for you and
then you are good to upload your report.

I have several Obermeyer products so I'm confident you will find it to be a
stand-up jacket in the Colorado backcountry.  Just stay safe, as you know
that RECCO feature is just so your wife can claim your life insurance! <g>

Kathy

MSRP: $475
EDIT:  Please add "US", i.e., "$475 US" or "US $475"

The jacket also uses a microporous coating called Hydroblock that helps
prevent water from coming through the pours while allowing water vapor to
escape.
EDIT:  Should be "pores" (not "pours").

The shell is made from the EcoGenesis stretch fabric and is 100% polyester.
Edit:  Could you please give a one-liner here explaining EcoGenesis is made
from recycled PET bottles?

The zipper pull is a sturdy and large enough to grasp with gloves and
mittens.
EDIT:  Need to delete the "a".

Inside the left pocket is a d-ring.
EDIT:  Should be "D-ring" with the "d" capitalized to actually denote the
shape of the object.

One thing that is quicky apparent is how well the jacket is constructed.
EDIT:  Should be "quickly".
___________________________________________________

----- Original Message -----
From: Brett Haydin
To: backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com ; kathy@...
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 7:27 AM
Subject: [backpackgeartesters] IR - Obermeyer Kestral Jacket - Brett Haydin



Kathy, I've uploaded my IR for your review at http://tinyurl.com/a6gwh8k.
This seems to be a great jacket! I can't wait to get out and play with it :)
Text version follows. Thanks in advance for your edits!

Thanks Kerri
 
Edited, uploaded, deleted,...

From: Kerri Larkin <kerrilarkin@...>
To: jerry adams <jerryaadams@...>
Cc: "BackpackGearTesters@yahoogroups.com" <BackpackGearTesters@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:18 PM
Subject: [backpackgeartesters] EDIT: IR - Dahlgren Socks - Jerry Adams

Hi Jerry,

Apologies for the delay in getting these edits to you. I'm on the road at
present so only getting intermittent internet access. There's only a few edits
needed and they follow the standard format:
EDIT: Must be changed
Edit: a suggested change
Comment: No need to change - a comment only.

The HTML looks fine, so once the edits are completed please go ahead and upload
your report.

They make a number of styles including Expedition (extra heavy weight, tall),
Backpacking (heavy weight), Hiking (medium weight),... I
EDIT: For clarity, could you delete the comma after "weight)"and make the "I"
the start of a new sentence please. It's okay to leave the ellipsis, so it would
read, "medium weight)… I am

If that moisture can be wicked up to the ankles, it would evaporate a lot
better.
EDIT: Past and present tense (can, would). Can you please change "can" to
"could".

I think they would be comfortable if I had a size 11 or 13 foot, as they
advertise.
EDIT: If I'm understanding you correctly, you are saying here that they fit the
size 12 foot, but would also be comfortable for a size 11 or size 13 foot? If
that's the case, can you insert the word "also" after "would" to read, "I think
they would also be…"

They're well made - very uniform feeling across the different zones of the socks
- heel, toe,…
Edit: if using the ellipsis, there is no need for a comma. However, for clarity
you may want to consider changing the end of the sentence to something like,
"…zones of the socks - heel, toe, ankle and leg."

Look foreword to my Field Report in two months.
EDIT: Please change "foreword" to "forward"

That's it! These look to be an interesting design so I'll look forward to your
Field Report.
Kind Regards,

Kerri

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Question: is this test a repeat of the one we did in 2009?:

  
http://www.backpackgeartest.org/reviews/Trekking%20Poles/Poles/Mountainsmith%20C\
arbonlite%20ProTrekking/

Assuming not, my app follows.

1. Disclaimer: I have read the BackpackGearTest.org bylaws v. 0609 in
their entirety and my signed compliance statement is on file.

2. Bio: Resident of Tucson, AZ. 6' 4", 230 lbs, age 59, gender=male,
e-mail: kwpapke(at)gmail(dot)com.  I do a variety of canyon, mountain
and desert hiking, mostly in southern Arizona.

3. Link to Previous Test Reports:
http://www.backpackgeartest.org/tester_reviews/kwpapke
Includes one prior trekking pole test:
http://www.backpackgeartest.org/reviews/Trekking%20Poles/Poles/Black%20Diamond%2\
0Trail%20Shock%20Trekking%20Poles/Test%20Report%20by%20Kurt%20Papke/

4. Link to Test Status Page: http://teststatus.backpackgeartest.org/T1789.htm

5. Tests in Progress: none

6. Outstanding Applications: none

7. Any BGT Roles: call manager, monitor(1)

8. Test plan: I have never used carbon fiber poles before because I am
very hard on my poles and have had reservations concerning carbon
fiber durability.  I always use poles when hiking except when
scrambling, and between my substantial weight, tough canyon
conditions, and hiking pace I manage to destroy a pair of poles
annually.  This typically occurs when I do a "scree slide" and my feet
go out from underneath me when descending a steep, gravelly canyon
trail.  My poles end up breaking my fall - I'd rather sacrifice them
than me.

I am intrigued by several other features of these Mountainsmith poles:
the neoprene strap sounds pretty comfy, and I've never used cork
handles before.  I am bit dubious of the twist-lock adjustments with
their 160lb limits, but willing to give them a try.  The shock
absorber lockout is something I'd use on my mountain bike, but I'm
curious to see if/how I would use it on a trekking pole.

We are entering into the winter hiking season here in Southern AZ, so
these poles will get most of their miles in low-altitude mountains
such as the Superstitions and Tucsons.  I also have a January trip
planned to the Mojave desert in California.

All that said, please accept my application for testing the
Mountainsmith Carbonlite Pro trekking poles.

Regards,
--Kurt

Howdy!

Thanks in advance for your edits.  The url is:  http://tinyurl.com/dx5674a

Dawn


Test Report
Dahlgren Backpacking Socks

Initial Report 19 November 2012

Name:  Dawn Larsen
Age: 51
Gender: female
Height: 5' 4" (163 cm)
Weight: 155 lb (70 kg)
Email address: vicioushillbilly AT gmail DOT com
Florence, South Carolina USA

Backpacking Background:
I used to backpack in college a zillion years ago and just in the last few years
have backpacked some private trails in Tennessee, Missouri and most recently
South Carolina. I have been an avid car-camper for eleven years and I have
kayak/canoe camped for four years, in South Carolina, Tennessee, Missouri and
Arkansas. I use a lot of the same equipment for both. I hike hilly/rocky trails
especially in Missouri (my home state) and Arkansas. I live in South Carolina
and am busy checking out the terrain here with my nineteen year-old son.

socks

Product Information
Manufacturer: Dahlgren Footwear, Inc.
Website: www.dahlgrenfootwear.com
Product: Backpacking socks (located in Dahlgren's "Outdoor/Hiking" category)
Size: M (for Women's US 71/2-101/2[EU 38-43, UK 5-8]; also available in S for US
4-7)
Color: Thistle (also available in Cedar or Pitch) **The website lists S is only
available in Thistle and Cedar, M in Cedar and Pitch, but mine are size M in
Thistle.
Weight, measured: 3.5 oz (99 g) per pair
Height, measured heel to top: 9.25 in (23.5 cm)
MSRP: $20.95 US
All Dahlgren socks are made "exclusively" in the United States.

The socks arrived in a plain mailing envelope and packaged like most socks with
a cardboard printed cap and hangtag.

Dahlgren's Backpacking socks are "Heavy Weight" crew length (over-the-ankle)
wool socks intended for backpacking. The tag on the socks lists them as
"Dri-Stride Alpaca." From Dahlgren's website: Dri-Stride employs Winking Rings
and Wicking Channels (both of these are patented and trademarked) in the
Transfer Zone (the fabric encircling the arch/instep area of the sock) to
increase significantly the wicking from the Absorption Zones (heel and toe). The
different areas of the sock have different fabric content. The toe and heel are
55% merino wool, 28% nylon, 17% alpaca; the arch/instep and Wicking Rings 70%
recycled polyester 17% merino, 8% nylon, 5% alpaca; and the upper 75% recycled
polyester, 23% nylon, 2% Spandex. According to the diagram on the tag attached
to the socks, I think Dri-Stride works by driving the wicked-away perspiration
to the "transfer zone" and up to the top of the sock for evaporation.

I couldn't find a warrenty on Dahlgren's website, though there are instructions
on returns and the website suggests that they will replace defective products.
The customer pays for the return to Dahlgren's facility in Oregon.

Initial Observations
I love the color!  These socks are very "cushy."  They feel very warm. They
almost seemed a little long to me when I first put them on because when I pulled
them on, the heel landed up my ankle.  I wear an US 8.5 shoe (EU 39).  I
situated them back where they should be and found that there is plenty of room
in the toe box.  I like that.  They are also not very tight in any area around
my foot.  If they hold their shape, that will be fine, but I wonder if they will
stretch out.  When I put them on with a low/light hiking shoe, the heel slipped
up my ankle a bit.  I walked around a little and the heel does slip somewhat. 
These socks are heavier than any I own, so I will have to relace my boots to
allow for the bulk.  I also am wary because I'm typically not a big fan of the
crew sock.  I have wide calves and small ankles, so most crews fall down.  These
do not seem to bind my calves though.  And wearing them around the house, they
have not fallen down.  They feel funny, though, because I'm not used to wearing
crews.

Because they are very cushy, I'll be tempted to sleep in them!

What I like
The Thistle color is beautiful!
They feel very "cushy."
They seem warm.

What I don't like
The heel slips a little in the shoe.
I really don't like crew length socks.

This concludes my Initial Report. Check back about mid-March for my Long Term
Report. Many thanks to Dahlgren and BackpackGearTest.org for the opportunity to
test their Backpacking socks.

Please accept my application to test the Montbell Highland Jacket.  I have read
and understand the entire BackpackGearTest.org Bylaws v0609 including Chapter 5.
I agree to comply with all requirements.  My signed tester agreement is on file.

Tester Information:
Name:  Alex Legg
Age:  30
Gender:  Male
Height:  6'4" (1.9 m)
Weight:  195 lb (88 kg)
Shoe Size:  13 Mens
Email address:  alexlegg2 AT yahoo DOT com
City, State, Country:  Tucson, Arizona, USA
I grew up backpacking in the Rockies.   I hike ranges throughout Arizona and
Colorado year round.  I carry a light pack, mostly water.  I prefer a tarp
shelter to my heavier 2-person tent.  I do many day hikes and I also spend as
many as 5 days out at a time.  Temperatures range from below freezing to above
100 F (38 C), and elevations from 2,000 ft to 14,000 ft (610 m to 4, 300 m).  I
bag a mountain almost every weekend, and I walk my dogs 4 miles daily through
deep sand and overgrown mesquite trees in our local washes.

Test Plan:
This jacket is the perfect addition to my lightweight backpacking gear.  I am
surprised that a down jacket can pack down as small and as lightweight as
Montbell claims.  I have been very impressed with Montbell's products in the
past, so I look forward to finding out how this jacket holds up to the test.  I
think that I could stop carrying heavy fleece or multiple base layers on my
overnight trips while using this jacket.  I foresee numerous outings in the Sky
Island mountain ranges around Tucson this winter.  Elevations will be above
8,000 ft and weather will be unpredictable.  Often temperatures will get below
freezing.  I will also be spending some time in Colorado where temperatures will
be cold and snowy regularly.  The weight of this jacket makes it a great choice
for those trips when I am not sure how quickly and severely the weather may
change.  It seems like I could just pull it out and throw it on whenever I
needed it, all while not really noticing that I have been carrying it in my bag.

Current test load: Suisse Sport Mammoth Tent (LTR stage), Suisse Sport K2
Sleeping Bag (LTR stage). Gerber Instant Knife (FR stage), Sea to Summit
Ultra-Sil Dry Day Bag (Awaiting delivery).
Tester status page:  http://teststatus.backpackgeartest.org/T1896.htm
Owner Reviews in past year:  10
Link to reviews/tests:  http://www.backpackgeartest.org/tester_reviews/alexlegg
Outstanding applications:  Mountainsmith Trekking Poles
Additional BGT roles:  None at this time.

Thank you for the consideration!

Please accept my application to test the Mountainsmith Trekking Poles.  I have
read and understand the entire BackpackGearTest.org Bylaws v0609 including
Chapter 5.  I agree to comply with all requirements.  My signed tester agreement
is on file.

Tester Information:
Name:  Alex Legg
Age:  30
Gender:  Male
Height:  6'4" (1.9 m)
Weight:  195 lb (88 kg)
Shoe Size:  13 Mens
Email address:  alexlegg2 AT yahoo DOT com
City, State, Country:  Tucson, Arizona, USA
I grew up backpacking in the Rockies.   I hike ranges throughout Arizona and
Colorado year round.  I carry a light pack, mostly water.  I prefer a tarp
shelter to my heavier 2-person tent.  I do many day hikes and I also spend as
many as 5 days out at a time.  Temperatures range from below freezing to above
100 F (38 C), and elevations from 2,000 ft to 14,000 ft (610 m to 4, 300 m).  I
bag a mountain almost every weekend, and I walk my dogs 4 miles daily through
deep sand and overgrown mesquite trees in our local washes.

Test Plan:
I have always wanted to try trekking poles but have not had the chance yet.  I
feel they could be especially helpful now that I am still recovering form a foot
surgery and having trouble clocking the extensive miles that I'm accustomed to. 
I plan on using the poles on every backpacking outing from the lowland Sonoran
Desert to the Sky Island mountain tops and even on my planned trip to Colorado. 
I will report back on how sturdy they feel and how well they hold up to
continued use.  I am interested to see if they feel cumbersome compared to not
carrying poles, or if they become so comfortable and useful that I feel I can't
live without them.

Current test load: Suisse Sport Mammoth Tent (LTR stage), Suisse Sport K2
Sleeping Bag (LTR stage). Gerber Instant Knife (FR stage), Sea to Summit
Ultra-Sil Dry Day Bag (IR Stage).
Tester status page:  http://teststatus.backpackgeartest.org/T1896.htm
Owner Reviews in past year:  10
Link to reviews/tests:  http://www.backpackgeartest.org/tester_reviews/alexlegg
Outstanding applications:  Montbell Highland Jacket
Additional BGT roles:  None at this time.

Thank you for the consideration!

On 19/11/2012, at 3:16 PM, Kerri Larkin <kerrilarkin@...> wrote:

> Hi Richard,
>
> Thanks for your report. The HTML looks great and I've only a couple of edits
for you which follow the standard format:
> EDIT: Must be changed
> Edit: a suggested change
> Comment: No need to change - a comment only.
>
> To summarize from Dahlgren's website, Dri-Stride employs Winking Rings and
Wicking Channels
> EDIT: I wish I could leave this one as it is, but I think you mean Wicking
Rings, not Winking rings?
>
> The socks come several inches/centimeters above the cuff of the boots (one
pair full-grain leather, one pair GORE-TEX) I ordinary wear when hiking or
snowshoeing in winter.
> EDIT: Please change "ordinary" to "ordinarily".
>
> Otherwise it's all good, so please go ahead and upload after the changes.
Don't forget to delete your test upload. I'll look forward to your LTR in March
but until then, have fun playing int the snow!
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Kerri



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Kerri,

Revised and uploaded, and Tests folder copy deleted.

See you in March

Cheers, Richard

--- In backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com, Kerri Larkin <kerrilarkin@...>
wrote:
>
>
> On 19/11/2012, at 3:16 PM, Kerri Larkin <kerrilarkin@...> wrote:
>
> > Hi Richard,
> >
> > Thanks for your report. The HTML looks great and I've only a couple of edits
for you which follow the standard format:
> > EDIT: Must be changed
> > Edit: a suggested change
> > Comment: No need to change - a comment only.
> >
> > To summarize from Dahlgren's website, Dri-Stride employs Winking Rings and
Wicking Channels
> > EDIT: I wish I could leave this one as it is, but I think you mean Wicking
Rings, not Winking rings?
> >
> > The socks come several inches/centimeters above the cuff of the boots (one
pair full-grain leather, one pair GORE-TEX) I ordinary wear when hiking or
snowshoeing in winter.
> > EDIT: Please change "ordinary" to "ordinarily".
> >
> > Otherwise it's all good, so please go ahead and upload after the changes.
Don't forget to delete your test upload. I'll look forward to your LTR in March
but until then, have fun playing int the snow!
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> >
> > Kerri
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Hi Dawn,

Thanks for your report and congratulations on becoming a Test Manager! The HTML
looks great and I've only got a couple of edits for you which follow the
standard format:
EDIT: Must be changed
Edit: a suggested change
Comment: No need to change - a comment only.

Size: M (for Women's US 71/2-101/2[EU 38-43, UK 5-8]; also available in S for US
4-7)
EDIT: a space is needed between "101/2" and the [ bracket. I'd also suggest a
space between the 10 and the 1/2 so it doesn't look like 101, and between the 7
and the 1/2 so it doesn't look like 71.

Dri-Stride employs Winking Rings and Wicking Channels (both of these are
patented and trademarked) in the Transfer Zone
EDIT: I wish I could leave this one as it is, but I think you mean Wicking
Rings, not Winking rings?

See you in March Dawn, and enjoy the cosy socks.

Kind Regards,,

Kerri

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This Call closes Wednesday.  Get those Apps in before a turkey induced
slumber!Big thanks for the three that have been submitted!!  Here's the Call
below once more.
Happy Thanksgiving,Mike
Blacksmith's still need those heavy hammers.  But with Mountainsmith you can use
some ultra-light poles to forge ahead. 

Mountainsmith and BackpackGearTest.org are offering three individuals the 
opportunity to test the Mountainsmith Carbonlite Pro Trekking Poles. 

Product information available at:

http://www.mountainsmith.com/products.asp?productId=115&categoryId=15&subCategor\
yId=0&subCategory2Id=0

TEST CALL DETAILS:

* Newbie Limit Does NOT Apply
* Three(3) Report Test Series
* U.S. Shipping Included
* Andrea Murland is the Test Director


APPLICATIONS TO INCLUDE:

* Brief Test Plan including Disclaimer and Bio
* Link to Previous Test Reports
* Link to Test Status Page
* Test in Progress
* Outstanding Applications
* Any BGT Roles 
* Subject Line "Mountainsmith Trekking Poles"
* PLEASE CC ME; MIKEPEARL36 AT YAHOO DOT COM

Test Call closes at midnight (PST) Wednesday, November 21. 

Hammer out those apps!
Mike

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Kurt,

The poles have had some design and materials updates since 2009 - 7075 aluminum
now vs. 6061 aluminum then, etc.

Thanks for the app,

Andrea



--- In backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com, Kurt Papke <kwpapke@...> wrote:
>
> Question: is this test a repeat of the one we did in 2009?:
>
>  
http://www.backpackgeartest.org/reviews/Trekking%20Poles/Poles/Mountainsmith%20C\
arbonlite%20ProTrekking/
>
> Assuming not, my app follows.
>
> 1. Disclaimer: I have read the BackpackGearTest.org bylaws v. 0609 in
> their entirety and my signed compliance statement is on file.
>
> 2. Bio: Resident of Tucson, AZ. 6' 4", 230 lbs, age 59, gender=male,
> e-mail: kwpapke(at)gmail(dot)com.  I do a variety of canyon, mountain
> and desert hiking, mostly in southern Arizona.
>
> 3. Link to Previous Test Reports:
> http://www.backpackgeartest.org/tester_reviews/kwpapke
> Includes one prior trekking pole test:
>
http://www.backpackgeartest.org/reviews/Trekking%20Poles/Poles/Black%20Diamond%2\
0Trail%20Shock%20Trekking%20Poles/Test%20Report%20by%20Kurt%20Papke/
>
> 4. Link to Test Status Page: http://teststatus.backpackgeartest.org/T1789.htm
>
> 5. Tests in Progress: none
>
> 6. Outstanding Applications: none
>
> 7. Any BGT Roles: call manager, monitor(1)
>
> 8. Test plan: I have never used carbon fiber poles before because I am
> very hard on my poles and have had reservations concerning carbon
> fiber durability.  I always use poles when hiking except when
> scrambling, and between my substantial weight, tough canyon
> conditions, and hiking pace I manage to destroy a pair of poles
> annually.  This typically occurs when I do a "scree slide" and my feet
> go out from underneath me when descending a steep, gravelly canyon
> trail.  My poles end up breaking my fall - I'd rather sacrifice them
> than me.
>
> I am intrigued by several other features of these Mountainsmith poles:
> the neoprene strap sounds pretty comfy, and I've never used cork
> handles before.  I am bit dubious of the twist-lock adjustments with
> their 160lb limits, but willing to give them a try.  The shock
> absorber lockout is something I'd use on my mountain bike, but I'm
> curious to see if/how I would use it on a trekking pole.
>
> We are entering into the winter hiking season here in Southern AZ, so
> these poles will get most of their miles in low-altitude mountains
> such as the Superstitions and Tucsons.  I also have a January trip
> planned to the Mojave desert in California.
>
> All that said, please accept my application for testing the
> Mountainsmith Carbonlite Pro trekking poles.
>
> Regards,
> --Kurt
>

BackpackGearTest.org is pleased to offer three (3) ladies the opportunity to
test the Slipstream down jacket, courtesy of ISIS.

> http://www.isisforwomen.com/p-751-slipstream-jacket.aspx

* 800-fill-power down
* Velvet lined collar
* Zipper garage
* Reverse coil front zip with no-snag draft flap
* Invisible zip hand pockets
* Internal mesh zip security pocket with snowflake earphone portal
* Lycra® cuffs
* Drawcord hem
* Body length: 27 inches

APPLICATION PARAMETERS

Please include the following in your short but succinct application:

1. Subject line: APPLICATION - Slipstream Jacket - Your Name
2. The opening disclaimer for testing
3. A brief personal bio
4. A brief test plan (just long enough to demonstrate your understand the
product and where you will be testing it.)
5. A link to your previous tests/ORs (summary page) and number of ORs in the
last 12 months
6. List your current test load, AND a link to your test status page
7. List any applications currently under consideration
8. List any additional BGT roles (mentor, monitor, etc.)

TEST SPECIFICS
* US shipping included
* Newbie limit does NOT apply
* Curt is the Test Director

This test call will close at midnight (MST), Monday, November 26, 2012.

Please Cc my personal email address along with the list to ensure I receive your
application.

73,

~derek

Made from neither armadillos or alligators, but purported to protect against
abrasion and slashes while being both breathable and
wind/waterproof--introducing the Super Armadillo Nano Gaiters from Hillsound.

Let the apps pile in!

> http://hillsound.com/hillsound-product/super-armadillo-nano-gaiter/

* Breathable, waterproof, and stretchy "SuperFabric"
* Calf-high gaiters


APPLICATION PARAMETERS

Please include the following in your short but succinct application:

1. Subject line: APPLICATION - Hillsound Armadillo Gaiter - Your Name
2. The opening disclaimer for testing
3. A brief personal bio
4. A brief test plan (just long enough to demonstrate your understand the
product and where you will be testing it.)
5. A link to your previous tests/ORs (summary page) and number of ORs in the
last 12 months
6. List your current test load, AND a link to your test status page
7. List any applications currently under consideration
8. List any additional BGT roles (mentor, monitor, etc.)

TEST SPECIFICS
* US & Canadian shipping included
* Newbie limit does NOT apply
* Curt is the Test Director

This test call will close at midnight (MST), Monday, November 26, 2012.

Please Cc my personal email address along with the list to ensure I receive your
application.

73,

~derek

FYI, the MontBell Highland jacket test call is scheduled to close tonight. 
There is still time if you wish to submit your application for consideration.

Ryan

--- In backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com, Ryan Christensen <bigdawgryan@...>
wrote:
>
> One does not have to be from the Clan MacLeod to be a Highlander.  It has been
said "There can be only one" however, Montbell and BackpackGearTest are pleased
to offer three qualified individuals the opportunity to test the Montbell
Highland Down Jacket.  Testers, like Immortals, can be of either gender.
>
>
> Details about the Highland jacket can be found via the following links:
>
> Men: http://www.montbell.us/products/disp.php?p_id=2301167  
>
>
> Women: http://www.montbell.us/products/disp.php?p_id=2301168
>
> TEST CALL SPECIFICS:
>
> > Newbie Limit Does NOT Apply
> > Three (3) Report Test Series
> > U.S. SHIPPING INCLUDED
>
>
> SUCCINCT APPLICATIONS SHOULD INCLUDE:
>
> >  Brief Test Plan
> >  Link to Previous Test Reports
> >  Link to Tester Status Page
>  (many forget this, please include it)
> >  Current Test Load
> >  Current Applications
> >  Current role(s) at BGT (editor, mentor, monitor, other labors of love)
> >  Please include "Montbell" and "Highland" in the subject line of your
application
> >  Test Call closes midnight (MST) Monday, November 19, 2012
>
> >  Richard is the Test Director (akin to the Immortal mentor Ramirez)
>
> Hope to see lots of apps!
>
>
> Ryan
>
>
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>

Application to test the Hillsound Super
Armadillo Nano Gaiters
Derek,Please accept my application to test the Hillsound Super
Armadillo Nano Gaiters.  I have read the BGT
Survival Guide v. 0609 and Bylaws v. 0609 and I agree to comply with all
requirements and timetables.  My signed
Tester Agreement is on file with BGT.
 
Reviewer Information:
 
Name:Ryan L. Christensen
Age:  48
Gender:  Male
Height:  6 ft 2 in (1.88 m)
Weight:  235 lb (107 kg)
Email address:  bigdawgryan (at) yahoo (dot) com
City, State, Country:  Idaho
Falls, Idaho  U.S.A

Backpacking
Background: 
 
I began backpacking at twelve, continuing until 25.  After an extended hiatus,
due in part to a
bad back, I resumed cycling, hiking, and backpacking several years ago and began
snowshoeing and cross-country skiing.  I share
my love for backpacking and these sports with my children.  For several years,
we have hiked or camped nearly
every month, year-round.  We vary our
experience: desert, forest, meadow, and mountain; spring, summer, fall, and
winter; sunshine, rain, wind, or snow.  I
am a lightweight backpacker, but carry a full array of necessary gear.
 
Field Information:
 
I live in southeastern Idaho at approximately 4,700 ft (1,433 m)
above sea level.  Outings during the test
period will include elevations ranging between 4,700 ft (1,433 m) and
12,668 feet (3,861 m).  Potential destinations for what will be snowshoe and
cross-country
outings once the snow falls include the Portneuf Range near Pocatello, Idaho;
Craters of the Moon National Monument near Arco, Idaho; the Kelly Canyon Nordic
Area near Idaho Falls, Idaho; and the Palisades and Teton Valley areas. 
Weather during the test period should include
wind, rain, snow with average temps ranging from highs in the low 60’s F (15
C)
in October to the low teens F (-10 to -18 C).  However, the temperature can and
often does drop to 30 below 0 F (-34 C)
or colder.
 
Proposed Test Plan:
 
I normally get in several overnight ski/snow shoe trips
during the winter; I intend to get in several this season.  I wear gaiters on
all my cross-country skiing
and snowshoeing outings and will wear the Super Armadillo Nano
Gaiters on all my winter outings; both day and overnight trips.  I am
interested in seeing
whether these gaiters live up to the manufacturer’s claims that its Schoeller
fabrics have premier breathable, waterproof and stretch capabilities.  How
easily are they to don and doff?  Are these gaiters well suited for winter
activities?  How well does the
nanotech-based finish sluff off snow, leaves and other plant material, and
mud?  I would like the opportunity to find
the answers to these and most likely several questions unasked in this
application.
 
Current Tests:
 
-          Black Diamond Mercury 75 backpack – Long Term Testing
-          Suisse Sport "K2"
mummy sleeping bag – Long Term Testing
-          Obermeyer Kestral jacket – Initial Report due
 
Tester Status Page:
 
http://teststatus.backpackgeartest.org/T1466.htm
 
Test Applications Currently Under Consideration:
 
-          None
 
BGT Involvement:
 
- Test Call Manager
- Test Monitor
 
Previous Reviews:
 
Please click the link
below to access my previous reports.
 
http://tinyurl.com/pwvrl
 
Owner Reviews (past 12 months): 0

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Please accept my application to test the Mountainsmith Trekking Poles.  I have
read the BackpackGearTest.org Bylaws v0609 including Chapter 5 I agree to comply
with all requirements.  My signed tester agreement is on file.

Tester Info:
Name:  Erin Foudy
Age:  32
Gender:  Female
Height:  5'11'' (1.8 m)
Weight:  150 lbs (68 kg)
Email address:  erinfoudyATyahooDOTcom
City, State, Country:  Tucson, Arizona, USA

Backpacking Background:
I started backpacking while working for the National Park service ten years ago.
I have been a backcountry ranger/law enforcement ranger and served on search and
rescue crews.  I typically take two or more camping trips a month, year round. 
I appreciate light weight, but am not obsessed by it.  I often carry a 30 lb (14
kg) pack and stay out from three to nine days at a time.  I also enjoy day trips
with only water on my back.  I take trips to Colorado and Montana in the
summertime and enjoy the outdoors there as well.

Test Plan:
If selected this would be my first time owning or even trying hiking poles.  I
have always been extremely curious about hiking poles, as I have several hiking
buddies who swear by them.  I have been told that poles can aid your stamina
when hiking uphill, allowing the user to comfortably hike longer as well as
farther.  When traveling down hill I am very interested in seeing if hiking
poles will help stabilize me as I have had problems with weak ankles and knees.
I will be taking many trips during this testing period.  I have one to Colorado
planned to do some backpacking and visit family.  I will also be taking many
trips up the local mountain ranges around Tucson, and some trips in the lower
desert areas as well.  There will be lots of rocky terrain and uneven paths.  I
will test the poles for durability and strength as well as weight and ease of
use.


I have 2 current test: Suisse Sport Mckinley Sleeping Bag ( LTR stage), View
Ranger App (2 report test LTR stage), Honey Stingers (awaiting delivery)
My tester status page is at: http://teststatus.backpackgeartest.org/T1900.htm
I have 3 OR's uploaded to the BGT site.
My OR's can be viewed at:
http://www.backpackgeartest.org/tester_reviews/erinfoudy
I have 0 applications pending

I have no additional BGT responsibilities.

Thank you!

Please accept my application to review the Hillsound Armadillo Gaiters. I have
read the BGT Survival Guide v. 0609 and Bylaws v. 0609 and I agree to comply
with all requirements and timetables. My signed Tester Agreement is on file with
BGT.

Name: Lori Pontious
Age: 45
Gender: Female
Height: 5' 7" (1.7 m)
Weight: 163 (74 kg)
email address: lori.pontious at gmail.com
location: Fresno County, California, USA

I have been dayhiking/backpacking in California since 2006, mostly in the Sierra
Nevada, in the coastal ranges in winter, and into low elevation parks such as
Henry Coe. I have been out at least monthly, several times a month in spring and
summer, and usually carry a lightweight pack.

Test Plan: I have backpacking trips scheduled out for the next four months to
the coast and into the snowy (I hope!) mountains, as well as day trips. My snow
trips will be day snowshoe outings and several overnights. Winter training for
search and rescue will also fall within the testing period, and potentially
winter searches. Trail hiking on the coast involves quite a bit of encroaching
brush, so long gaiters are a good thing to have. I am interested in finding out
whether the Armadillos are up to the job - are they waterproof and breathable to
keep my feet dry even while active in wet snow or underbrush?  Will the straps
hold together or come apart from the gaiter, or part under the beating beneath
my boots?

My thanks to Hillsound and Backpack Gear Test for their consideration.

Current tests: Suisse Sport Mammoth Tent (LTR due in two months), Suisse Sport
K2 Sleeping Bag (LTR due in two months), ViewRanger GPS app (field testing),
Chaco Tedinho Boots (FR due in two months), Sea to Summit mesh/dry bags (waiting
for item to arrive)

Test status page at http://teststatus.backpackgeartest.org/T1883.htm

ORs in last year: 3

Other test applications: none pending

BGT involvement: monitor: GSI Kettle

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Hi Derek:  Please accept my application to test the Isis Slipstream Down Jacket.
I have read Chapter 5 of the BackpackGearTest Survival Guide, Version 0609 and I
will follow all requirements.  My signed tester agreement is on file.

Bio:
Name: Frances Penn
Age: 56
Gender: Female
Height: 5 ft 9 in (1.75 m)
Weight: 135 lb (61 kg)
E-mail: fpenn AT sbcglobal DOT net
Location: Costa Mesa, California, USA

Backpacking background: I have been backpacking for five years mostly on long
weekends in Southern California with one or two 5-day trips per year in the
Sierras. My total daypack weight is usually 15 lb (7 kg) and my total backpack
weight is usually 28-30 lb (13-14 kg). I am a tent camper and have experienced
all night rain, heavy winds, camping in snow, but mostly fair weather.

Test Plan:  I plan to wear this jacket everyday that I am outdoors during the
testing period this winter.  I have many trips planned in snow conditions and
will extensively test this jacket in every temperature and condition available
(snow, wind, rain, etc.)  I currently own a Patagonia Down sweater and find it
warm in colder weather.  I look forward to putting this jacket through its
paces.

Tester summary page: http://www.backpackgeartest.org/tester_reviews/fpenntester

Link to Tester Status Page:  http://teststatus.backpackgeartest.org/T1905.htm

Current Test Load:  I am currently testing the following items:
Energizer - Carabiner LED Area Light >>> LTR DUE March 13, 2013 [2 report test]
REPORT FOLDER: http://teststatus.backpackgeartest.org/link2585.htm
Honey Stinger - Organic Waffles >>> LTR DUE March 5, 2013 [2 report test]
REPORT FOLDER: http://teststatus.backpackgeartest.org/link2589.htm
180 Tack,LLC - 180 STOVE >>> FR DUE Jan 08, 2013
REPORT FOLDER: http://teststatus.backpackgeartest.org/link2588.htm

Current Applications:  I have applied to test the Montbell Down Jacket and the
Mountainsmith Trekking Poles.

Owner Reviews: I have completed 2 ORs in the last year.

Current role(s) at BGT:  I hold no additional BGT roles.  I am just enjoying
testing all of the great gear available.

Please accept my application to review the Slipstream down jacket. I have read
the BGT Survival Guide v. 0609 and Bylaws v. 0609 and I agree to comply with all
requirements and timetables. My signed Tester Agreement is on file with BGT.

Name: Lori Pontious
Age: 45
Gender: Female
Height: 5' 7" (1.7 m)
Weight: 163 (74 kg)
email address: lori.pontious at gmail.com
location: Fresno County, California, USA

I have been dayhiking/backpacking in California since 2006, mostly in the Sierra
Nevada, in the coastal ranges in winter, and into low elevation parks such as
Henry Coe. I have been out at least monthly, several times a month in spring and
summer, and usually carry a lightweight pack.

Test Plan: I have backpacking trips scheduled out for the next four months to
the coast and into the snowy (I hope!) mountains, as well as day trips. The
Slipstream will likely be used as a mid-layer, under a shell in inclement
weather and as a primary insulator in milder temperatures. I anticipate being
out overnight in temperatures ranging from 40 - 10 F.

I am interested to find out what a "zipper garage" will do for me, and find out
if those invisible zip hand pockets really have invisible zips. More
importantly, will the jacket be warm and toasty and comfortable, and withstand
the stuffing and compression while backpacking?

If selected, i would need a medium, and prefer either Dusk or Vixen (what fun
color choices).

My thanks to ISIS and Backpack Gear Test for their consideration.

Current tests: Suisse Sport Mammoth Tent (LTR ), Suisse Sport K2 Sleeping Bag
(LTR ), ViewRanger GPS app (field testing), Chaco Tedinho Boots (FR due in two
months), Sea to Summit mesh/dry bags (waiting for item to arrive)

Test status page at http://teststatus.backpackgeartest.org/T1883.htm

ORs in last year: 3

Other test applications: Hillsound Armadillo Gaiters

BGT involvement: monitor: GSI Kettle

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