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#68788 From: "ringrat55" <amurland@...>
Date: Thu Jun 2, 2011 2:45 pm
Subject: ARRIVED - SmartWool PhD Outdoor Light Socks - Andrea Murland
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Socks have arrived!
They fit well.
IR sometime next week when I'm BIP.
Andrea

#68789 From: "Ray" <rayestrella@...>
Date: Thu Jun 2, 2011 7:10 pm
Subject: Re: FW: EDIT Tubbs Flex Snowshoes LTR--Estrella
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Thanks for the edits and for working with us on this test Mike.

See you down the trail,

Ray

#68790 From: Cheryl Mcmurray <cherylmcmurray2@...>
Date: Thu Jun 2, 2011 11:39 pm
Subject: IR-High Sierra Bobcat 65-Cheryl McMurray
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Hi Ray,
	 Here's my IR for the High Sierra Bobcatpack.  The URL is
http://tinyurl.com/3jklev2.  I'll be OOP until late Monday the 6th so I will
post my edits after that.  Thanks in advance for your edits.
Cheryl

HIGH SIERRA BOBCAT 65 BACKPACK

TEST SERIES
BY CHERYL MCMURRAY
INITIAL REPORT  June 3, 2011
FIELD REPORT  August 3, 2011
LONG TERM REPORT  October 3, 2011

TESTER INFORMATION

Name:  Cheryl McMurray
Age:  52
Gender:  Female
Height:  5 ft 8 in (173 cm)
Weight:  145 lb (66.6 kg)
Torso Length:  18.5 in (47 cm)
Waist:  34 in (98 cm)
Email Address:  cherylmcmurray2ATgmailDOTcom
City, State, Country:  Garden Grove, California, U.S.

BACKPACKING BACKGROUND

I've been backpacking and hiking for four years, mostly on weekends year around.
Overnight trips are usually long weekend trips in the Eastern Sierras with 32 lb
to 40 lb (15 kg to 18 kg) loads depending on the season.  One class two rock
climb with a day pack is common.   Day hikes are 10-15 mi (16 km to 24 km) in
the San Gabriel Mountains with loads of 15 lb to 20 lb (7 kg to 9 kg).  I'm a
tent style camper and have experienced snow, sub-freezing temperatures, winds
(once was gale force), light rain, but mostly fair weather.

INITIAL REPORT

PRODUCT INFORMATION

Manufacturer:  High Sierra Sport Company
Manufacturer Website:  www.highsierrasport.com
Year of Manufacture:  2011
Material:  Mini-Diamond Ripstop, Mini-Weave Duralite
Pack Type:  External frame
List Weight:  7 lb (3.2 kg)
Actual Weight:  5 lb 6 oz (2.45 kg)
Weight of extra pins:  long, .3 oz (8 gm); short, .25 oz (7 gm)
Listed Capacity:  3966 in^3 (65 l)
Size:  25 in x 19 in x 8.5 in (63 cm x 48 cm x 21.5 cm)
Fit:  One size-torso range 16 in to 22 in (41 cm to 56 cm), 30 in (76 cm) and up
waist
Height Range:  68 in to 72 in (173 cm to 183 cm)
Available Colors:  Black, Pacific Nebula, Amazon Pine
Color Tested:  Pacific Nebula (blue)
MSRP:  NA
Warranty:  To original owner against defects

PRODUCT DESCRIPTION

The High Sierra Bobcat is an external frame backpack that consists of a
top-loading main compartment, adjustable top lid, front-loading sleeping bag
compartment, large front pocket and smaller zippered pockets on each side.  The
adjustable shoulder straps and waist belt are VAPEL mesh padding that wicks
moisture away and the back panel features a stretch mesh AIRFLOW system that is
designed to keep the back cool and dry.  The Bobcat is hydration compatible
offering dual exit ports for the reservoir tube along with a side mesh pocket
that will hold a 33 oz (1 l) bottle.

Bobcat Backpack (taken from website)
Bobcat Backpack in Amazon Pine color (taken from Website)

INITIAL IMPRESSIONS

I've only used an external backpack on one occasion which was the first time I
ever had a backpack on.  After 4 years of using internal frame backpacks, this
will be a different experience for me.  When I pulled the pack out of the box
after it arrived, it felt heavier than I expected.  When I first saw the pack on
the website the weight was not listed so I didn't know what to expect but after
weighing the pack, it wasn't quite as heavy as I thought (actually weighing 1 lb
10 oz (740 gm) less than the stated weight on the website).  I think the
bulkiness of an external pack might have added to the impression that it weighed
more than it did.  I do like the feel and look of the Mini-Diamond Ripstop and
Mini-Weave Duralite material and the Pacific Nebula color is really nice.  The
pack seemed to fit well right out of the box so I didn't think that much
adjustment was going to be needed.  The pack looks very well made and both the
shoulder straps and hip belt feel very cushy.  I do like the number of pockets
that are included as I like to keep things organized.  The included rain cover
is a nice touch along with the media pocket that fits my GPS (however I can't
close the lid).  One thing that I thought was interesting, though, was that the
hydration sleeve is very shallow and wide.  My first conclusion was that I would
need to put my hydration reservoir in sideways and I was concerned about how
that might affect the flow of water when the level gets low.  One thing I found
missing were some lashing straps below the main pack and I was hoping to strap
my bear canister there but I'm confident that I can get creative and make it
work.  There is no user manual included with the pack but the website lists all
of the features which is helpful.

PRODUCT FEATURES

MAIN COMPARTMENTS AND MAIN POCKETS

The main compartment is top loading with a gusseted closure and includes the
hydration sleeve that is sewn in horizontally as opposed to vertically.  I'm
hoping, though, that I can still place my reservoir in vertically.  I'll test it
both ways and see if there are any issues either way.  There is a large external
pocket on the front of the main compartment with lashing points on both sides to
attach extra gear, and below the main compartment is a separate sleeping bag
compartment.

Hydration sleeve, gusset closure
	 Front pocket, sleeping bag compartment

STRAPS, BELT, BACK PANEL

The shoulder straps and hip belt are both made of VAPEL mesh padding that feels
soft and cushy.  One shoulder strap sports a media pocket that will fit my GPS
and both have an elastic loop at the outside of the strap to run a hydration
hose through along with a loop on the sternum strap that will do the same thing.
I'm used to having a whistle on the buckle of the sternum strap but this pack
doesn't have that so I'll just attach my own.  The load lifters, shoulder
straps, back mesh panel and hip belt are all adjustable using a pin and ring
system to fine tune the fit.  The pack also includes hip stabilizer straps.

Haul strap, media pocket, shoulder straps, mesh back ring and pin system visible
Haul strap, media pocket, mesh back, shoulder straps, pin and ring system
visible

POCKETS

The large lid pocket extends the full width of the top lid and includes a key
clip.  One side of the pack has a tall pocket including a mesh pocket attached
to the outside of it and the other side has two smaller pockets.  All of the
zippers have storm flaps, seem sturdy and have large zipper pulls to grab on to.

Lid pocket with key clip
	 Tall side pocket and mesh pocket
	 small side pockets
Lid pocket with key clip
	 Tall side pocket and mesh pocket
	 Smaller side pockets

RAIN COVER

There is a separate smaller zippered pocket on the lid that holds the rain cover
which is attached to the pack with webbing and a buckle.  It covers the complete
pack down to the area above the hip belt so if I attach anything below the
sleeping bag compartment I'll need to put it in a waterproof sack.  I do like
having the rain cover as a part of the pack so that I don't have to carry a
separate one.  There are no straps below the sleeping bag compartment to attach
items there.  It would be nice to have a few straps with quick release buckles
there for a tent or bear canister, however, straps can be placed around the
horizontal bars to attach those items so that the area doesn't go to waste.

Rain cover pocket
	 Rain cover
Rain cover pocket
	 Rain cover in place

TRYING IT OUT

I have a backpacking trip coming up so I decided to lay everything out and
practice packing the pack.  It took some trial and error to get the weight
distributed comfortably but I was eventually able to achieve it (at least the
way it felt in my backyard).  The photos below show my load minus the food.  I
was able to run straps around the lower frame bars to strap my bear canister on
securely and I hooked my sit pad, wrapped around my tent poles, to the lashing
points on both sides of the front pocket.  I tried placing my 100 oz (3 l)
hydration bladder in sideways to utilize the full pocket but then found that it
took up too much space and I couldn't fit my sleeping bag.  I then inserted it
into the hydration sleeve vertically and found that it fit nicely.  I was then
able to fit my sleeping bag in vertically along with my down booties and some
smaller items.  I found that the heavier items like my tent and clothes carried
better in the sleeping bag compartment for a better center of gravity.  My
inflatable sleeping pad fit nicely in the long side pocket along with my rain
gear.  My water filter and first aid kit went into the two smaller pockets on
the other side.  The bear canister contained my stove and food that I don't need
for the day and I'll put my day's food in the top lid for easy access.

I did play around with the adjustment for the shoulder straps and load lifting
straps moving them over to the third adjusting hole (there are four on each
side).  The manufacturer has a buckle on each shoulder strap that the load
lifter straps are run through.  I found that when the straps went through that
buckle, it kept me from being able to adjust the load properly against my back
so I removed them from the buckle and the pack pulled in toward my back much
better.

wearing the pack
	 packed, side view
	 front view, packed

SUMMARY

I like the color and material of the Bobcat pack and High Sierra includes some
nice features like the media pocket and hydration hose loops on the shoulder
straps.  The pockets seem roomy and the pack seems durable and well constructed.
I like the cushioned feel of the shoulder straps and hip belt.  I wish that they
included at least one pocket on the hip belt and some straps below the sleeping
bag compartment for lashing extra gear but the frame bars enable me to attach my
own.  There are multiple adjustments for the shoulder straps, shoulder
stabilizing straps, hip belt and mesh back using the pin and ring system to help
fine tune the fit.

I look forward to giving this pack a good test and check back in a few months
for my field report.




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#68791 From: "Jerry Goller" <ChiefModerator@...>
Date: Fri Jun 3, 2011 2:31 am
Subject: LTR - Tarptent Hogback - Jerry Goller
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HTML at http://tinyurl.com/3cgxdke



Thanks for the edits and I'm so glad this one if finally over....





LONG-TERM REPORT



LONG-TERM TEST LOCATIONS AND CONDITIONS



My hopes for light snow during anything even approaching a reasonable test
period just wasn't meant to be. This winter has been long and wet. We're
still experiencing snow at high altitude during the first part of June. Many
of our ski resorts plan to be open for the 4th of July holiday. The snow has
been frequent and deep. I finally conceded defeat and took the Hogback with
us when we went to Kate's parents in Colorado for her birthday. We pitched
it in the side yard. This isn't as bad as it sounds. Their side yard is at
5800' (1768 m) and overlooks Stewart Mesa. The view was spectacular and it
was easy to forget there was a house behind us.  It was in the lower 50s F
(10s C) both nights. The first night it rained all night and the second
night it rained off and on.



PERFORMANCE IN THE FIELD



I didn't notice unusual condensation and what there was was easy to avoid
due to the very high ceiling of the Hogback. The size of the Hogback makes
rainy nights with kids or friends (not that kids can't be friends) much
easier to deal with. The Hogback is made of silnylon and, of course, suffers
from the same potential mist though as any other silnylon tent. I had hoped
to find out how well the extra pole worked for supplemental support with
light snow. We just didn't have any light snow. Even without testing to back
it up I still think the pole is a valuable addition if I get the Hogback in
light snow or even high wind.

Extra Pole



Supplemental pole installed on Hogback



SUMMARY



The size to weight ratio of the Hogback is both outstanding and, in my
experience, unrivaled. It is as easy to put up and any tent I've ever used
and much easier than some that were much smaller than it. It wouldn't
surprise me to see the Hogback become a classic large sized, lightweight
tent. I can't really think of anything I don't like about it except the size
of the vestibules. I wish they were a little more realistically sized. In my
experience they won't accommodate the gear of even three people, much less
four. But, overall, that is pretty minor compared to the rest of the tent.
We just put our gear inside the tent. As our third person was only 4 years
old, there was plenty of room for our packs and gear.



I want to thank Henry Shires at Tarptent for another outstanding design.



This report was created with the BackpackGearTest.org Report Writer Version
1.5 Copyright 2011. All rights reserved.

http://www.backpackgeartest.org/: the most comprehensive interactive gear
reviews on the planet.



Jerry





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#68792 From: "Jamie D." <jdeben@...>
Date: Fri Jun 3, 2011 3:27 am
Subject: Re: IR: FITS Light Runner Socks - Jamie D
chcoa
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Thanks Bob.  I see what you mean about the "has" vs. "says" thing. I changed it.
Uploading in a second.

Jamie D

--- In backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com, Bob Sanders <rscreative@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Jamie,
>
> Report looks good. HTML is fine and all the links work.
>
> Just one comment, your call. Upload at will
>
> See you in a couple of months.
>
> All the best,
> Bob
>

#68793 From: "Jamie D." <jdeben@...>
Date: Fri Jun 3, 2011 3:29 am
Subject: ARRIVED - Additional FITS SOCKS(me too) - Jamie D
chcoa
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I received the same thing as Kristine.  1 more Light Runner Low-Cut and 1 more
Like Hiker Crew.

Jamie D

--- In backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com, K Mar <kmar546@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Everyone -
>  
> I just received two more pairs of FITS socks.  I received one more pair of the
Light hiker Crew, and another pair of the Low Cut Light Runner.  I now have 2
pairs of each sock.
>  
> Kristine
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

#68794 From: "Jamie D." <jdeben@...>
Date: Fri Jun 3, 2011 3:40 am
Subject: Re: EDIT - IR: Smartwool Microweight Tank - Jamie D
chcoa
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Thank you Kathy.  Done and uploading after this post.

Jamie D

--- In backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com, "Kathy Waters" <kathy@...> wrote:
>
> Jamie,
>
> Just a couple of edits and you are good to upload.  Please remember to
> delete your test file.
>
> See you in a couple of months.
>
> Kathy

#68795 From: "RyanC" <bigdawgryan@...>
Date: Fri Jun 3, 2011 4:23 am
Subject: EDIT: IR - Jetboil Sol Ti - Chad P
bigdawgryan
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Chad,

Nice report; I really liked the photos as they truly enhanced the report.  Just
some minor things for you to address and you are good to upload in the
appropriate folder.  Please remember to delete your file from the TESTS folder.


Edit: <from.There> - please insert a space between "." and "T"

EDIT: <Jetboils's> - please remove the "s" before the "'"

Edit: <This a a round metal> - please delete the extra "a"

Edit: <for the the cup> - please delete the extra "the"


See you again in two months.  Ryan

#68796 From: "RyanC" <bigdawgryan@...>
Date: Fri Jun 3, 2011 4:37 am
Subject: EDIT: IR - Jetboil Sol Ti - Brett Haydin
bigdawgryan
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Brett,

Nice report.  A few minor thing to address and you are good to post in the
appropriate folder.  Please remember to delete your file from the TESTS folder.

Comment: A photo showing the various pieces would have been helpful.

Comment: <The manufacturer refers to these as "fans"> - do they call them fans
or "fins"?

Edit: <50 ml and 2 ox increments> - I believe "ox" should be "oz" -- please
correct

Edit: <It has small holes on one side that serves> - subject verb agreement; -
suggest changing "serves" to "serve" for proper agreement

Comment: <No more hoping that I brought matches or a lighter!> - my experience
with piezoelectric lighters is that they DO NOT always work; I suggest you take
your matches or lighter just in case =^)

Edit: <cover kept me hands from the heat> - suggest changing "me" to "my"

See you again in two months, Ryan

#68797 From: "RyanC" <bigdawgryan@...>
Date: Fri Jun 3, 2011 4:48 am
Subject: EDIT: IR Jetboil Sol Ti Stove
bigdawgryan
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Jenn,

Nice report as usual. You made my job really easy as I could find nothing in
need of editing.  Please post in the appropriate folder and remember to delete
your file from the TESTS folder.

Comment: <This makes me believe that I should still make sure I have a lighter
with me.> It takes me several tries as well and my experience with e
piezoelectric ignitions is that the DO NOT always work; so I always take matches
or a lighter just in case.

See you again in two months, Ryan

#68798 From: "Stick" <stick1377@...>
Date: Fri Jun 3, 2011 4:57 am
Subject: Re: EDIT: IR - Jetboil Sol Ti - Chad P
chad.poindexter
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Ryan,

Thanks for the edits. The corrections have been made, test report deleted and
new report uploaded in its new home!

See ya in 2...

Chad

--- In backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com, "RyanC" <bigdawgryan@...> wrote:
>
> Chad,
>
> Nice report; I really liked the photos as they truly enhanced the report. 
Just some minor things for you to address and you are good to upload in the
appropriate folder.  Please remember to delete your file from the TESTS folder.
>
>
> Edit: <from.There> - please insert a space between "." and "T"
>
> EDIT: <Jetboils's> - please remove the "s" before the "'"
>
> Edit: <This a a round metal> - please delete the extra "a"
>
> Edit: <for the the cup> - please delete the extra "the"
>
>
> See you again in two months.  Ryan
>

#68799 From: "ftroop94" <ftroop94@...>
Date: Fri Jun 3, 2011 11:17 am
Subject: EDIT: LTR - Tarptent Hogback - Jerry Goller
ftroop94
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Jerry,

The Hogback certainly seems appealing to a guy with a 2 1/2 and 4 year old!  The
report looks fine, I might suggest editing this one awkward sounding line!



>>I didn't notice unusual condensation and what there was was easy to avoid due
to the very high ceiling of the Hogback.

edit:  I didn't notice unusual condensation and any moisture that did accumilate
was easy to avoid due to the very high ceiling of the Hogback.


Steve



--- In backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com, "Jerry Goller" <ChiefModerator@...>
wrote:
>
> HTML at http://tinyurl.com/3cgxdke
>
>
>
> Thanks for the edits and I'm so glad this one if finally over....
>
>
>
>
>
> LONG-TERM REPORT
>
>
>
> LONG-TERM TEST LOCATIONS AND CONDITIONS
>
>
>
> My hopes for light snow during anything even approaching a reasonable test
> period just wasn't meant to be. This winter has been long and wet. We're
> still experiencing snow at high altitude during the first part of June. Many
> of our ski resorts plan to be open for the 4th of July holiday. The snow has
> been frequent and deep. I finally conceded defeat and took the Hogback with
> us when we went to Kate's parents in Colorado for her birthday. We pitched
> it in the side yard. This isn't as bad as it sounds. Their side yard is at
> 5800' (1768 m) and overlooks Stewart Mesa. The view was spectacular and it
> was easy to forget there was a house behind us.  It was in the lower 50s F
> (10s C) both nights. The first night it rained all night and the second
> night it rained off and on.
>
>
>
> PERFORMANCE IN THE FIELD
>
>
>
> I didn't notice unusual condensation and what there was was easy to avoid
> due to the very high ceiling of the Hogback. The size of the Hogback makes
> rainy nights with kids or friends (not that kids can't be friends) much
> easier to deal with. The Hogback is made of silnylon and, of course, suffers
> from the same potential mist though as any other silnylon tent. I had hoped
> to find out how well the extra pole worked for supplemental support with
> light snow. We just didn't have any light snow. Even without testing to back
> it up I still think the pole is a valuable addition if I get the Hogback in
> light snow or even high wind.
>
> Extra Pole
>
>
>
> Supplemental pole installed on Hogback
>
>
>
> SUMMARY
>
>
>
> The size to weight ratio of the Hogback is both outstanding and, in my
> experience, unrivaled. It is as easy to put up and any tent I've ever used
> and much easier than some that were much smaller than it. It wouldn't
> surprise me to see the Hogback become a classic large sized, lightweight
> tent. I can't really think of anything I don't like about it except the size
> of the vestibules. I wish they were a little more realistically sized. In my
> experience they won't accommodate the gear of even three people, much less
> four. But, overall, that is pretty minor compared to the rest of the tent.
> We just put our gear inside the tent. As our third person was only 4 years
> old, there was plenty of room for our packs and gear.
>
>
>
> I want to thank Henry Shires at Tarptent for another outstanding design.
>
>
>
> This report was created with the BackpackGearTest.org Report Writer Version
> 1.5 Copyright 2011. All rights reserved.
>
> http://www.backpackgeartest.org/: the most comprehensive interactive gear
> reviews on the planet.
>
>
>
> Jerry
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

#68800 From: "Ray" <rayestrella@...>
Date: Fri Jun 3, 2011 1:23 pm
Subject: Edit: IR - HIGH SIERRA BOBCAT 65 - STEVE KIDD
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Hi Steve,

Nice job on you IR. Here are your edits. Please remember to delete your test
copy.

Have fun testing,

Ray




***Listed Weight: 7.05 lbs (3.20 kg)
***Measured Weight: 5 lb 6 oz (2.44 kg)

EDIT: we need to be consistent with our abbreviations, and BGT prefers lb to lbs



Capacity: 3966 cu in (65 L)
Colors Available: Black; Pacific/Nebula; Amazon/Pine (tested)
Materials: Mini-Diamond Ripstop; Mini-Weave Duralite®





*** The lid is secured by two buckles that each attach to individual 36 in (91
cm) continuous webbed loops.

EDIT: either drop the "each" or use "attaches"



***After individualizing to size they frame is re-secured with a ring and pin
fixture.

EDIT: "the" frame



***If I don't need cords to attach a sleeping pad, what will I use to hang my
pack on a tree in camp? I'm sure I improvise!

EDIT: I'm sure "I'll" improvise!



***The plethora of external pockets really excites me! It's one of the many
things that tend to disenchant me with an internal frame pack.

EDIT: Hmm, I think you mean to say, "The lack of pockets is one of the many
things that tend to disenchant me with an internal frame pack."
Otherwise you are contradicting yourself.

#68801 From: "Ray" <rayestrella@...>
Date: Fri Jun 3, 2011 1:38 pm
Subject: Edit: IR-High Sierra Bobcat 65-Cheryl McMurray
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Hi Cheryl,

Good job on your IR, it brings back memories of my first packs. Here is your
lone edit after which you may upload. Please delete the test copy.

Have fun testing it,

Ray


EDIT: your side-by-side pictures are too wide. They are causing scrolling. I
believe we need to keep them under 800 pixels wide total.

#68802 From: Cheryl Mcmurray <cherylmcmurray2@...>
Date: Fri Jun 3, 2011 4:14 pm
Subject: Re: Edit: IR-High Sierra Bobcat 65-Cheryl McMurray
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Ray,
	 Thanks for your quick edits.  I was able to get them done before leaving.  I
moved a few photos and checked to be sure that my side by side's did not exceed
800 pixels total.  I uploaded to it's folder and deleted the test folder.  If
you still an issue with scrolling, let me know and I'll try something else when
I get back.
Thanks,
Cheryl
On Jun 3, 2011, at 6:38 AM, Ray wrote:

>
> Hi Cheryl,
>
> Good job on your IR, it brings back memories of my first packs. Here is your
lone edit after which you may upload. Please delete the test copy.
>
> Have fun testing it,
>
> Ray
>
> EDIT: your side-by-side pictures are too wide. They are causing scrolling. I
believe we need to keep them under 800 pixels wide total.
>
>



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#68803 From: "Dingo" <tookieblueeyes@...>
Date: Fri Jun 3, 2011 5:53 pm
Subject: Edit/Approval FR - Past Primitive Pocket Stove - Erin M. Hedden
blackdingo_007
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http://www.backpackgeartest.org/reviews/Cook%20Gear/Stoves/Past%20Primitive%20Po\
cket%20Stove/Test%20Report%20by%20Erin%20Marie%20Hedden/

PAST PRIMITIVE POCKET STOVE
TEST SERIES BY ERIN M. HEDDEN
FR
May 30, 2011

TESTER INFORMATION

NAME: Erin M. Hedden
EMAIL: tookieblueeyes@...
AGE: 32
LOCATION: Southeastern Colorado U.S.A.
GENDER: F
HEIGHT: 5' 9" (1.75 m)
WEIGHT: 153 lb (69.40 kg)

Backpacking Background: I have been backpacking since 4 years of age, taking
week long trips into the mountains with my family. I hike various terrains
ranging from mountains and plateaus to grasslands and prairies. My excursions
can be a simple day hike with a light-weight waist pack, a loop trail requiring
up to 4 nights and 5 days on which I keep my pack as light-weight as possible,
or an in-and-out trip for a night or two where my pack can be quite heavy. Slow
and steady is my pace and I use a tent or a hammock depending on weather and
terrain.


INITIAL REPORT

PRODUCT INFORMATION & SPECIFICATIONS

Manufacturer: Past Primitive
Year of Manufacture: 2011
Manufacturer's Website: <<HYPERLINK GOES HERE -
"http://www.pastprimitive.com/">>
MSRP: USD $24.99
Listed Weight of Stove: 0.75 oz (21 g)
Measured Weight of Stove: 0.89 oz (25 g)
Listed Dimensions of Stove: 1 x 2.7 in (25 x 69 mm)
Measured Dimensions of Stove: 1.57 x 2.76 in (40 x 70 mm)
Listed Carrying Case Weight: 1.4 oz (37 g)
Measured Carrying Case Weight: 1.5 oz (43 g)
Listed Dimensions of Carrying Case: 1 x 3.3 in (25 x 84 mm)
Measured Dimensions of Carrying Case: 1.1 x 3.3 in (28 x 84 mm)
Listed Priming Time: approximately 20 seconds
Measured Priming Time: Approximately 30 seconds
Listed Boiling Time: 1 pt (0.47 L) of water 5:35 minutes
Measured Boiling Time: 1 pt (0.47 L) of water 5:20 minutes
Listed Average Burn Time: 7:30 - 11:00 minutes for 1 fl oz (29.6 ml) of fuel
Measured Average Burn Time: 6:58 - 10:34 minutes for 1 fl oz (30. ml) of fuel
Listed Fuel Type: Alcohol (ethanol, methanol, or isopropyl at least 91% alcohol
content)
Listed Fuel Capacity: 1 fl oz (29.6 ml)
Listed Fuel Efficient: 0.6 fl oz fuel per pt of water to boil (17.7 ml fuel per
0.47 L of water to boil)
Also Including: 10 ml (0.34 fl oz) syringe for fuel filling


INITIAL IMPRESSIONS

<<IMAGE GOES HERE. ALT TEXT = "IMAGE 1">>The Past Primitive Pocket Stove comes
in a handsome gold and red case with an image of the stove on the center of the
lid. The companies name is etched around the edge of the lid while the companies
website is etched at the bottom edge of the lid. The case is made of a heavy
duty metal and rather than having to pry the lid off, it unscrews.

After unscrewing the lid and opening the case the pocket stove itself is
revealed and is packaged together with a pot ring, a thumb screw and a sheet of
paper with the instructions and other information as its contents.

The pocket stove is obviously made from the bottom of a Pepsi can with a Ball
canning jar lid attached to its base. The company promises that the stove is
made from recycled materials and it is obvious they fulfilled that promise. I
liked the inventiveness of the product with regards to the materials that were
utilized in its construction.

The stove also came with a 10 ml syringe for easy filling.


READING THE INSTRUCTIONS

The instructions that came included in the carrying case with the stove were
easy to read and understand, clearly printed and compact enough to keep folded
up inside of the case with the stove.

TRYING IT OUT

<<IMAGE GOES HERE. ALT TEXT = "IMAGE 2">>Assembling the stove was simple since
all there is to do is squeeze the pot lid together tightly enough to fit in the
lip of the stove, fill it with 1 oz (30 ml) of alcohol as fuel, then close off
the filling hole with the thumb screw that was included in the stoves case.

A little bit of fuel squirted around the bottom of the stove and lighting it
with a lighter or match served to prime the stove itself. Priming took a total
of 30 seconds until the flames took hold and the stove was ready to serve its
purpose.

I found that the average boiling time was between 6:58 - 10:34 minutes for 1 fl
oz (30. ml) of fuel used. The average boiling time for 1 pt (0.47 L) of water
was measured to be at 5:20 minutes consistently.

It performed well in a light breeze and never was blown out and even in colder
temperatures it had no problems functioning, it only took a few seconds longer
for the priming process and that was the only measured difference in its
function.

TESTING STRATEGY

I have two separate overnight excursions planned as well as several day hikes on
which I plan to put the Past Primitive Pocket Stove to the test by cooking
meals, sterilizing some water as well as making some hot drinks with it. Once
wild turkey season starts I will be spending long days out in the backcountry
from before dawn until after dark.

SUMMARY

<<IMAGE GOES HERE. ALT TEXT = "IMAGE 3">>This is a simple yet effectively
designed little stove that impressed me when it came to how easily it was to put
together and operate. I also like the fact that it is made of 100% recycled
materials and that it came in a very sturdy screw top case that actually held my
weight when I stood on it, as was promised by the manufacturer website.


<a name="FRPT">FIELD REPORT</a>

FIELD LOCATIONS AND CONDITIONS

<<IMAGE GOES HERE. ALT TEXT = "IMAGE 1">>Picketwire Canyon in Southeastern
Colorado for an overnight hunting trip where the temperature was a chilly 27 F
(-2 C). The night was calm and void of even the slightest of breezes when I used
the Past Primitive Pocket Stove to make a late supper. The next day I used the
stove to make lunch and the temperature was 58 F (14 C) and there was a slight
breeze coming in out of the east.

<<IMAGE GOES HERE. ALT TEXT = "IMAGE 2">>Ryans Pond where the temperature was 74
F (23 C) and there was a slight breeze coming in from out of the Northeast.

Lathrop State Park with winds gusting up to 34 mph (55 kmph) and the temperature
was 58 F (14 C). The sky was cloudy and there was a short period of time when
there was a bit of rain falling from the sky while the stove was in use.

Vogel Canyon during a rain storm where 3/4 of an inch (1.57 mm) of rain had
accumulated and winds gusted to 38 mph (61 kmph) and the temperature was 62 F
(17 C)

PERFORMANCE IN THE FIELD

<<IMAGE GOES HERE. ALT TEXT = "IMAGE 4">>The stove performed well and did not
disappoint in the cold weather of early spring. With temperature dipping down to
27 F (-2 C) the stove took a little longer to prime, at a timed 48 seconds, and
it also took a little longer to boil 1 pt (0.47 L) than the listed 5:35 minutes,
or the previously measured 5:20 minutes. The cold weather retarded the boil time
to 6:42 minutes, right as the 10 ml (0.34 fl oz) of alcohol fuel that the stove
itself can hold, ran out. To continue to heat the water for a longer period of
time in order to fully cook the ramen noodles I was preparing on this particular
occasion, I had to wait for the thumb screw to cool down enough so that I could
add another 10 ml (0.34 fl oz) of fuel to the stove and finish cooking my late
supper.

During a recent rain storm in the canyons of Southeastern Colorado the Past
Primitive Pocket Stove managed to boil some water for a late afternoon lunch in
5:38 minutes and did not get blown out when the winds kicked up and rain began
to fall.

Overall during regular outings the stove performed consistently enough to call
it reliable regardless of being dampened  and wind blown. It was only blown out
and had to be restarted on 3 separate occasions, all 3 occasions were during
days when high winds were being experienced and I was unable to block the wind
effectively. Otherwise, it performed well and I had no problems with the stove.

SUMMARY

<<IMAGE GOES HERE. ALT TEXT = "IMAGE 3">>Overall the Past Primitive Pocket Stove
proved to be a very lightweight and functional stove.
I experienced no problems while using the stove to boil water for various hot
beverages and meals.
I like the fact that it is lightweight, easy to assemble and disassemble as well
as its efficiency for boiling water and heating up drinks.
The time needed to boil water does vary depending on the conditions it is used
in, it proves to be slower at boiling water in colder temperature and even
though alcohol stoves are usually quite sensitive to wind this one really did
not seem to have too much of a problem with having its flames extinguished if a
wind block of some sort is used. In my case I put it into depressions in rock or
used natural windbreaks such as the roots of trees or rock formations.



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#68804 From: "Jerry Goller" <ChiefModerator@...>
Date: Fri Jun 3, 2011 7:31 pm
Subject: RE: EDIT: LTR - Tarptent Hogback - Jerry Goller
jerrygoller
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Yeah, I knew that was an awkward sentence when I wrote it. Yours is much
better. Changed.

Jerry

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reviews on the planet.


-----Original Message-----
From: backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ftroop94
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 05:18
To: backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [backpackgeartesters] EDIT: LTR - Tarptent Hogback - Jerry Goller

Jerry,

The Hogback certainly seems appealing to a guy with a 2 1/2 and 4 year old!
The report looks fine, I might suggest editing this one awkward sounding
line!



>>I didn't notice unusual condensation and what there was was easy to avoid
due to the very high ceiling of the Hogback.

edit:  I didn't notice unusual condensation and any moisture that did
accumilate was easy to avoid due to the very high ceiling of the Hogback.


Steve



--- In backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com, "Jerry Goller"
<ChiefModerator@...> wrote:
>
> HTML at http://tinyurl.com/3cgxdke
>
>
>
> Thanks for the edits and I'm so glad this one if finally over....
>
>
>
>
>
> LONG-TERM REPORT
>
>
>
> LONG-TERM TEST LOCATIONS AND CONDITIONS
>
>
>
> My hopes for light snow during anything even approaching a reasonable test
> period just wasn't meant to be. This winter has been long and wet. We're
> still experiencing snow at high altitude during the first part of June.
Many
> of our ski resorts plan to be open for the 4th of July holiday. The snow
has
> been frequent and deep. I finally conceded defeat and took the Hogback
with
> us when we went to Kate's parents in Colorado for her birthday. We pitched
> it in the side yard. This isn't as bad as it sounds. Their side yard is at
> 5800' (1768 m) and overlooks Stewart Mesa. The view was spectacular and it
> was easy to forget there was a house behind us.  It was in the lower 50s F
> (10s C) both nights. The first night it rained all night and the second
> night it rained off and on.
>
>
>
> PERFORMANCE IN THE FIELD
>
>
>
> I didn't notice unusual condensation and what there was was easy to avoid
> due to the very high ceiling of the Hogback. The size of the Hogback makes
> rainy nights with kids or friends (not that kids can't be friends) much
> easier to deal with. The Hogback is made of silnylon and, of course,
suffers
> from the same potential mist though as any other silnylon tent. I had
hoped
> to find out how well the extra pole worked for supplemental support with
> light snow. We just didn't have any light snow. Even without testing to
back
> it up I still think the pole is a valuable addition if I get the Hogback
in
> light snow or even high wind.
>
> Extra Pole
>
>
>
> Supplemental pole installed on Hogback
>
>
>
> SUMMARY
>
>
>
> The size to weight ratio of the Hogback is both outstanding and, in my
> experience, unrivaled. It is as easy to put up and any tent I've ever used
> and much easier than some that were much smaller than it. It wouldn't
> surprise me to see the Hogback become a classic large sized, lightweight
> tent. I can't really think of anything I don't like about it except the
size
> of the vestibules. I wish they were a little more realistically sized. In
my
> experience they won't accommodate the gear of even three people, much less
> four. But, overall, that is pretty minor compared to the rest of the tent.
> We just put our gear inside the tent. As our third person was only 4 years
> old, there was plenty of room for our packs and gear.
>
>
>
> I want to thank Henry Shires at Tarptent for another outstanding design.
>
>
>
> This report was created with the BackpackGearTest.org Report Writer
Version
> 1.5 Copyright 2011. All rights reserved.
>
> http://www.backpackgeartest.org/: the most comprehensive interactive gear
> reviews on the planet.
>
>
>
> Jerry
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>




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#68805 From: "Jenn K. jennksnowy" <jennksnowy@...>
Date: Fri Jun 3, 2011 8:37 pm
Subject: Extension Request LTR Cocoons Sunglasses Jenn K.
jennbgt
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I am requesting an extension on my LTR for the Cocoons Sunglasses. I am away
from home until June 13th and my flash drive is missing the pictures and the
HTML is all wacked. So I am unable to upload the LTR until I get home.


Thank you

Jenn K.

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#68806 From: "Kathy Waters" <kathy@...>
Date: Fri Jun 3, 2011 8:48 pm
Subject: Re: Extension Request LTR Cocoons Sunglasses Jenn K.
themiddlesis...
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Got it, Jenn!

Kathy

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Jenn K. jennksnowy
   To: backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 2:37 PM
   Subject: [backpackgeartesters] Extension Request LTR Cocoons Sunglasses Jenn
K.



   I am requesting an extension on my LTR for the Cocoons Sunglasses. I am away
   from home until June 13th and my flash drive is missing the pictures and the
   HTML is all wacked. So I am unable to upload the LTR until I get home.

   Thank you

   Jenn K.

   [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





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#68807 From: "ftroop94" <ftroop94@...>
Date: Sat Jun 4, 2011 5:32 am
Subject: IR - SMARTWOOL PHD OUTDOOR LIGHT SOCKS - STEVE KIDD
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Gail,

Following is the IR for these socks.  I'm ready to hit the trail with them.  Let
me know what to work on!

Thanks,

~SMK

HTML VERSION:

http://alturl.com/mhho5

OR

http://www.backpackgeartest.org/reviews/test/TESTS/IR-SMARTWOOL%20PHD%20OUTDOOR%\
20LIGHT%20SOCKS-STEVE%20KIDD/

TEXT VERSION:


SMARTWOOL PHD OUTDOOR LIGHT SOCKS
TEST SERIES BY STEVEN M. KIDD
IR
June 05, 2011

TESTER INFORMATION

NAME: Steven M. Kidd
EMAIL: ftroop94ATgmailDOTcom
AGE: 38
LOCATION: Franklin, Tennessee, USA
GENDER: M
HEIGHT: 5' 9" (1.75 m)
WEIGHT: 220 lb (99.80 kg)

Backpacking Background:  I've been a backpacker on and off for over 25 years.  I
backpacked as a Boy Scout, and then again almost every month in my twenties,
while packing an average weight of 50+ lbs (23+ kg).  In the last several years
I have gained a renewed enthusiasm for the back country.  I generally go on one
or two night outings and now try to average a 30 lb (14 kg) pack.


INITIAL REPORT

PRODUCT INFORMATION & SPECIFICATIONS

<<IMAGE GOES HERE. ALT TEXT = "IMAGE 1"  IMAGE CAPTION = "Image Courtesy
Smartwool">>

Manufacturer: Smartwool Corporation (Subsidiary of The Timberland Company)
Year of Manufacture: 2011
Manufacturer's Website: <<HYPERLINK GOES HERE - "http://www.smartwool.com">>
MSRP: US $19.95
Measured Weight: 1.27 oz/sock~2.54 oz/pair (36 g/sock~72 g/pair)
Colors: Denim/Gray, Taupe/Caridnal, Medium Gray/Black, Oatmeal/Natural White
Sizes: Medium, Large, Extra Large
Materials: 70% Wool; 28% Nylon; 2% Elastane




Smartwool boasts on their website, "Our light half-cushioned PhD Outdoor Light
Crew is our most versatile outdoor sock. Thanks to WOW™ technology in high
density impact zones, shock and abrasion are reduced. The 4-Degree Fit System
keeps the sock in place.  Made in the USA of New Zealand Zque™ Merino wool."


<<IMAGE GOES HERE. ALT TEXT = "IMAGE 2"  IMAGE CAPTION = "See Corresponding
Notes">><<IMAGE GOES HERE. ALT TEXT = "IMAGE 3"  IMAGE CAPTION = "Sock
Packaging">>A - 4 Degree Fit System
A1) Ankle Band
A2) Arch Band
A3) Upper Instep Band
A4) Lower Instep Band
A5) Contour Flex Zone

B - WOW™ Technology

C - Light Half-cushioning

D -  Mesh MVT Zones

E - Flat- Knit Toe Seam





The 4 Degree Fit System is designed to provide a high performance all day fit. 
WOW™ technology is wool on wool, a higher density Smartwool Duroyarn in the heel
and metatarsal areas for added protection.  The is Light Half-cushioning in the
heals to protect against shock and abrasion and Mesh MVT zones allow for maximum
ventilation.  Finally, the toe is a flat knit seam for comfort and durability.


INITIAL IMPRESSIONS & INSTRUCTIONS

I was excited to receive the Smartwool PHD Outdoor Light socks.  I am testing a
Large pair in the Oatmeal and Natural White color scheme. Upon opening the
shipping box they were heavy stock paper as seen in the above image.  The paper
is recycled and packaging ink is made with soy based products.  The hang tag is
the only plastic part of the packaging.

<<IMAGE GOES HERE. ALT TEXT = "IMAGE 4">>After looking the socks over I saw no
defects and the craftsmanship appears in order.  After inspecting and
photographing the socks I decided to try them on .  I wore them around the house
for several hours and honestly didn't want to take them off.  They felt great! 
In fact I'd chased my kids around the pool for several hours earlier in the day
and rubbed a spot raw on the bottom of my big toe, they didn't even feel
uncomfortable in the sock.  In the time I wore them I will have to agree the 4
Degree fit system certainly worked.  The socks never slipped and feeling the
mesh area on the instep I believe they certainly have the potential to be quite
breathable.  They are crew socks but rise just below my calves.  I appreciate
this because mine are rather large and tend to stretch socks out and cause them
to sag over time.  Fortunately the socks never slipped or sagged on my legs just
as they didn't on the foot.

The cushioning in the heel area feels great and the toe seem isn't noticeable. 
I tried them on with a pair of ECCO Tahoe Trail shoes that I am reporting on in
a separate test, and they feel like they were mad to compliment one another. 
I'm excited to hit the trail with both in the near future.

The company offers the "Smartwool Guarantee"  for performance and comfort.  If
they don't meet the user's satisfaction, simply return them with a receipt for
replacement or a refund.  The socks may be machine washed and dried using warm
water and low tumble dryer setting.  Fabric softener is not required and bleach,
ironing and dry cleaning is not suggested.  I've noticed many technical sock
manufacturers are now suggesting their socks are dryer safe, and maybe I'm
antiquated but I still prefer to air dry mine.  I will give them a spin in old
Kenmore to see how they hold up.



SUMMARY

<<IMAGE GOES HERE. ALT TEXT = "IMAGE 5">>The socks appear to be well made,
comfortable, and dare I say stylish?  The latter has little impact on my
intended use for them, but it is a nice feature.  I'm excited to hit the trail
with them and see how they handle.  I've very rarely found a pair of socks that
aren't damp with perspiration after a full day on the trail...even in the
winter.  If these Smartwool PHD's can wick moisture away and keep my feet cool
and dry in the hot Tennessee summer I will be thoroughly impressed.

I'm excited to learn if they are as cozy on the trail as they have been around
the house, and most importantly if they keep my feet dry and free from blisters.
I fortunate to rarely deal with the latter, but as just mentioned I quite often
battle with damp socks even having to change a pair mid-day in extreme
situations.  So please check back in approximately two months to see how this
pair is performing!

I wish to thank BackpackGearTest and Smartwool Corporation for the opportunity
to test this product.



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#68808 From: "ftroop94" <ftroop94@...>
Date: Sat Jun 4, 2011 12:47 pm
Subject: REVISED IR-SMARTWOOL PHD OUTDOOR LIGHT SOCKS-STEVE KIDD
ftroop94
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Gail,

WOW! ~Not Wool on Wool as you will read!  I should never post a report after
midnight!  I found multiple edits myself this morning.  Sorry about the two
posts.

~SMK

HTML VERSION:

http://alturl.com/mrvwa

OR

http://www.backpackgeartest.org/reviews/test/TESTS/IR%20-%20SMARTWOOL%20PHD%20SO\
CKS%20-%20STEVE%20KIDD/

TEXT VERSION:


SMARTWOOL PHD OUTDOOR LIGHT SOCKS
TEST SERIES BY STEVEN M. KIDD
IR
June 05, 2011

TESTER INFORMATION

NAME: Steven M. Kidd
EMAIL: ftroop94ATgmailDOTcom
AGE: 38
LOCATION: Franklin, Tennessee, USA
GENDER: M
HEIGHT: 5' 9" (1.75 m)
WEIGHT: 220 lb (99.80 kg)

Backpacking Background:  I've been a backpacker on and off for over 25 years.  I
backpacked as a Boy Scout, and then again almost every month in my twenties,
while packing an average weight of 50+ lbs (23+ kg).  In the last several years
I have gained a renewed enthusiasm for the back country.  I generally go on one
or two night outings and now try to average a 30 lb (14 kg) pack.


INITIAL REPORT

PRODUCT INFORMATION & SPECIFICATIONS

<<IMAGE GOES HERE. ALT TEXT = "IMAGE 1"  IMAGE CAPTION = "Image Courtesy
Smartwool">>

Manufacturer: Smartwool Corporation (Subsidiary of The Timberland Company)
Year of Manufacture: 2011
Manufacturer's Website: <<HYPERLINK GOES HERE - "http://www.smartwool.com">>
MSRP: US $19.95
Measured Weight: 1.27 oz/sock~2.54 oz/pair (36 g/sock~72 g/pair)
Colors: Denim/Gray, Taupe/Cardinal, Medium Gray/Black, Oatmeal/Natural White
Sizes: Medium, Large, Extra Large
Materials: 70% Wool; 28% Nylon; 2% Elastane




Smartwool boasts on their website, "Our light half-cushioned PhD Outdoor Light
Crew is our most versatile outdoor sock. Thanks to WOW™ technology in high
density impact zones, shock and abrasion are reduced. The 4-Degree Fit System
keeps the sock in place.  Made in the USA of New Zealand Zque™ Merino wool."

The 4 Degree Fit System is designed to provide a high performance all day fit. 
WOW™ technology is wool on wool, a higher density Smartwool Duroyarn in the heel
and metatarsal areas for added protection.  The Light Half-cushioning in the
heel is to protect against shock and abrasion while the Mesh MVT zones allow for
maximum ventilation.  Finally, the toe is a flat knit seam for comfort and
durability.

<<IMAGE GOES HERE. ALT TEXT = "IMAGE 2"  IMAGE CAPTION = "See Corresponding
Notes">><<IMAGE GOES HERE. ALT TEXT = "IMAGE 3"  IMAGE CAPTION = "Sock
Packaging">>A - 4 Degree Fit System
A1) Ankle Band
A2) Arch Band
A3) Upper Instep Band
A4) Lower Instep Band
A5) Contour Flex Zone

B - WOW™ Technology

C - Light Half-cushioning

D - Mesh MVT Zones

E - Flat- Knit Toe Seam






INITIAL IMPRESSIONS & INSTRUCTIONS

I was excited to receive the Smartwool PHD Outdoor Light socks.  I am testing a
large pair in the Oatmeal and Natural White color scheme. Upon opening the
shipping box I found them packaged in heavy stock paper as seen in the above
image.  The paper is recycled and packaging ink is made with soy based products.
The hang tag is the only plastic part of the packaging.

<<IMAGE GOES HERE. ALT TEXT = "IMAGE 4">>After looking the socks over I saw no
defects and the craftsmanship appears in order.  I inspected and photographed
them and I decided to try them on.  I wore them around the house for several
hours and honestly didn't want to take them off.  They felt great!  In fact I'd
chased my kids around the pool for several hours earlier in the day and rubbed a
spot raw on the bottom of my big toe and this didn't even feel uncomfortable in
the sock.  In the time I wore them I will have to agree the 4 Degree fit system
certainly worked.  The socks never slipped and noticing the mesh area on the
instep I believe they certainly have the potential to be quite breathable.  They
are crew socks but rise just below my calves.  I appreciate this because my
calves are rather large and tend to stretch socks out and cause them to sag over
time.  Fortunately the socks never slipped or sagged on my legs just as they
didn't on the foot.

The cushioning in the heel area feels great and the toe seam isn't noticeable. 
I tried them on with a pair of ECCO Tahoe Trail shoes that I am reporting on in
a separate BGT test, and they feel like they were made to complement one
another.  I'm excited to hit the trail with both in the near future.

The company offers the "Smartwool Guarantee" for performance and comfort.  If
they don't meet the user's satisfaction, simply return them with a receipt for
replacement or a refund.  The socks may be machine washed and dried using warm
water and a low tumble dryer setting.  Fabric softener is not required and
bleach, ironing and dry cleaning is not suggested.  I've noticed many technical
sock manufacturers are now suggesting their socks are dryer safe, and maybe I'm
antiquated but I still prefer to air dry mine.  I will give them a spin in old
Kenmore to see how they hold up.



SUMMARY

<<IMAGE GOES HERE. ALT TEXT = "IMAGE 5"  IMAGE CAPTION = "PHD's and ECCO
Tahoe's">>The socks appear to be well made, comfortable, and dare I say stylish?
The latter has little impact on my intended use for them, but it is a nice
feature.  I'm excited to hit the trail with them and see how they handle.  I've
very rarely found a pair of socks that aren't quite damp with perspiration after
a full day on the trail...even in the winter.  If these Smartwool PHD's can wick
moisture away and keep my feet cool and dry in the hot Tennessee summer I will
be thoroughly impressed.

I'm excited to learn if they are as cozy on the trail as they have been around
the house, and most importantly if they keep my feet dry and free from blisters.
I am fortunate to rarely deal with the latter, but as just mentioned I quite
often battle with damp socks. I have even had to change a pair mid-day in
extreme situations. Please check back in approximately two months to see how
this pair is performing!

I wish to thank BackpackGearTest and Smartwool Corporation for the opportunity
to test this product.



This report was created with the BGT Report Generator.
Copyright 2011.  All rights reserved.

#68809 From: Ryan Christensen <bigdawgryan@...>
Date: Sat Jun 4, 2011 4:00 pm
Subject: ARRIVED: Additional FITS Socks - Christensen
bigdawgryan
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Well, it appears the confusion continues a bit.  Yesterday, I received two
additional pairs of socks.  They sent another Light Hiker Crew but this time its
an XL.  They also sent another pair of the Light Runner Low-cut in XL.  The
accompanying note stated that some men with size US 10.5 feet prefer the fit of
the XL.


To reduce confusion, I will only report on the Light Runner Low-cut size Large
socks in my test series.  I will submit an OR on the Light Hikers at a future
date.

Thanks again to FITS and BGT for the opportunity to test these socks.

Ryan

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#68810 From: "Dingo" <tookieblueeyes@...>
Date: Sun Jun 5, 2011 4:47 am
Subject: Not Received - Red Ledge Mirage - Erin M. Hedden
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To date I have not received the Red Ledge Mirage Jacket and I am a little
concerned that it will not be here in time for a trip to the tops of the East
and West Spanish Peak this weekend which will be a perfect opportunity to test
out the jacket since there is still snow on the peaks, but I cannot put off the
trip much longer as I have promised my nephew this trip for a month now. I am
afraid that there will not be too many more optimal opportunities left this
spring to test out the jacket in colder conditions as summer is approaching and
Colorado has already begun its big spring thaw.

I am just concerned that there will not be much time left to test out this
jacket and am not sure how I will manage to properly test the product if it
doesn't arrive very soon.

Just keeping you posted on where things stand and giving you a heads up that the
item has not yet arrived.

#68811 From: Pat McNeilly <mcne4752@...>
Date: Sun Jun 5, 2011 5:47 pm
Subject: LTR: Aarn Peak Aspiration Pack - Pat McNeilly
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Hi Heather,

Please find my LTR on the Aarn Peak Aspiration Pack below.  The html is in the
Tests folder at:

http://www.backpackgeartest.org/reviews/test/TESTS/LTR%20-%20Aarn%20Peak%20Aspir\
ation%20Pack%20-%20Pat%20McNeilly/

Thanks in advance for the edits.

Pat

LONG-TERM REPORT
            
LONG-TERM TEST LOCATIONS AND CONDITIONS
 
The Peak Aspiration Pack has been along with me on five local day hikes in
central or western Maryland and on two overnight backpacking trips in central
Virginia near the Blue Ridge Parkway.  The trips ranged anywhere from 3 to 10
miles (5 to 16 km) per day and were at elevations of 400 to 1350 ft (122 to 411
m).   The temperatures on these outing ranged from 30 F to 80 F (-1 C to 27 C). 
I did encounter light to moderate rain on some outings but nothing involving
heavy downpours.
 
PERFORMANCE IN THE FIELD
 
Over the past couple months I have continued to be impressed with the Peak
Aspiration Pack.   It is in great shape other than being somewhat dirty from
use.  There have not been any problems with seams ripping, cords failing, or
other general quality issues.  I still find the pack very comfortable, even when
using the front pockets.  The pack can be fitted to my body well enough and
there is so much freedom of movement that I haven't noticed issues problems with
rubbing or pressure points from awkward load transfer.  At one point I decided
to load up the pack with about as much gear as I could find and take a hike. 
The pack weighed 46 lb (21 kg) and I took it on a 5 mi (8 km) hike and can say
that I didn't find it uncomfortable.  The weight distribution on the front and
back of the hip belt made it much more comfortable than I had expected.

I have become a fan of the balance pockets.  They really don't get in the way
and I can have quite a bit of gear available right in front of me.  Although
there is the problem of deciding what should go in these pockets.  I was a
little concerned that as the temperatures got warmer the balance pockets would
make the pack too hot .  I don' t find the balance pockets really any warmer
than shoulder straps on other packs.

There have been a couple additional things that I want to mention that have been
somewhat annoying.  First is that there is a small mitten hook inside pack's lid
pocket.  I like this feature, so I can be sure that my keys are in a safe
place.  Unfortunately, the hook sits right along the zipper  and when I attach
my keys they tend to hang out of the pocket and prevent me from closing the
zipper.  Not a major issue but it could easily be alleviated by moving the point
of the mitten hook attachment.

I wanted to play around with using a hydration bladder along with the pack.  My
solution was to use the top lid pocket to hold the bladder.  I found it very
difficult to put a full 2 L bladder into the pocket.  I was able to get a
bladder filled with 1 L of water into the pocket without much difficulty.   That
wasn't bad but I typically want to carry 2 L in a bladder if I am going to use
one.   With a bit more experimenting, I was able to get 1.5 L into the lid
pocket which I could be happy with.  Since I was using the lid pocket I tended
to have a greater amount of hose to deal with outside the pack than with other
hydration compatible packs.

There are two side pockets on the pack for water bottles and such.  I have
carried 1 L bottles in them and there is a tendency for the strap that runs
around the front of the pack linking the shoulder straps to work its way under
the bottles.  This pushes them up and they can fall out.  I did have a water
bottle fall out of the pocket at one point when I was bending over.  This only
happened once but it did make me keep an eye on things in those pockets.

One last positive thing I would mention is that I found I was able to attach
both of my trekking poles to a single tool attachment point.  Initially, I
didn't think there was a long enough strap attached tot he buckle of the tool
attachment to allow it to wrap around both poles.  That allows me to have the
other tool attachment point available for another use.  I don't usually carry
additional tools (like an ice axe) but the spot is there nonetheless.


 
SUMMARY
 
The Aarn Peak Aspiration pack is a top loading pack which can be fitted with
front pockets to balance weight both front and back.  The pack is very
comfortable and allows for a good range of motion.  The pack accommodates both
large and small loads, although loading the pack effectively can require some
careful thought.

My likes and dislike haven't changed much but I might add that I believe the
pack handles fairly heavy loads well and that the mitten hook in the lid pocket
could be in a better place.

This concludes my testing of the Aarn Peak Aspiration Pack, I would like to
thank Aarn Design Ltd. and BackpackGearTest.org for the opportunity to test this
product.
 
CONTINUED USE
 
Describe your expected continued use of the item, or explain why you will not
use the item in the future.
 
 
 
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#68812 From: Mike Pearl <mikepearl36@...>
Date: Sun Jun 5, 2011 6:02 pm
Subject: LTR-Chaos Mistral Multi-Tasker Pro Balaclava-Mike Pearl
mikepearl36
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Hi James
Sorry to say my LTR was not very intense.  Thanks for the help on this series.
Best,
Mike

Link and text below.

http://www.backpackgeartest.org/reviews/test/TESTS/LTR-Chaos%20Mistral%20Multi-T\
asker%20Pro%20Balaclava-Mike/


LONG-TERM REPORT
    
LONG-TERM TEST LOCATIONS AND CONDITIONS
 
The Chaos Mistral Multi Tasker Pro has accompanied me on several more hikes. 
Unfortunately it has stayed in my pack.  The temperatures during the long term
test period have not warranted its use.
 
SUMMARY
 
The Multi Tasker has proven to be a quality balaclava.  It has provided
excellent protection from the wind and cold temperatures.  I have found it
comfortable in every way I have worn it.  The materials and construction have
held up well.  After many cycles of being taken on and off, the fabric still has
its strectch and holds its shape.  The only negative I have found was difficulty
ventilating excess moisture during heavy respritation.
 
CONTINUED USE
 
The Chaos Mistral Multi Tasker Pro will be a part of my cold weather gear.  I
will use it whenever the temperature is in the teens and/or the cold winds
blow.  The Multi Tasker is great when a layer of extra warmth might be
necessary.   I will pack it when traveling at elevations or seasons when weather
can change quickly.

This concludes my test series.  I would like to thank Choas and
BackpackGearTest.org for the opprotunity to test the Multi Tasker Pro balaclava.
 
 
 
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#68813 From: "Edward" <erd@...>
Date: Sun Jun 5, 2011 8:04 pm
Subject: IR-TED, Black Diamond Z Poles
edwardripley...
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Hello Ralph,

When you get back, the IR is at

http://www.backpackgeartest.org/reviews/test/TESTS/TED-Black%20Diamond%20poles/

Text follows:

BLACK DIAMOND DISTANCE FL TREKKING POLES
TEST SERIES BY EDWARD RIPLEY-DUGGAN

INITIAL REPORT: June 3, 2011

FIELD REPORT: To come in early August

LONG TERM REPORT: To come in early October

TESTER INFORMATION
NAME:  Edward Ripley-Duggan
EMAIL:  erd@...
AGE:  57
LOCATION:  Catskills, New York State
GENDER:  M
HEIGHT:  6' 0" (1.85 m)
WEIGHT:  220 lb (97.50 kg)
I enjoy walking in all its forms, from a simple stroll in the woods to multi-day
backpack excursions. Though by no means an extreme ultra-light enthusiast, from
spring to fall my preference is to carry a pack weight (before food and water)
of 12 lb (5.5 kg), more or less. In recent years, I've rapidly moved to a
philosophy of "lighter is better," within the constraints of budget and common
sense.

INITIAL REPORT

PRODUCT INFORMATION & SPECIFICATIONS

Manufacturer: Black Diamond
Year of manufacture: 2011
Manufacturer's Web site: www.blackdiamondequipment.com
MSRP: $119.95
Color: Aspen Gold (the only color available)
Length (stated): 47-55 in (120-140 cm) (the largest of three sizes offered)
Other sizes: 37-43 in (95-110 cm); 41-49 in [105-125 cm]
Measured length, fully extended: 55 inches (140 cm), tip to top of handle
Length folded: 15 1/2 inches (39 cm)
Listed weight: 16 oz (460 g)
Measured weight: 16 oz (460 g); in provided storage sack with both sets of
points in interior pocket 17 oz (480 cm)
N.B. (The weight of the tips and bag individually is less than the tolerance of
my scale)
Country of origin: US
Shaft material: Aluminum
Grip: EVA (i.e. ethylene-vinyl acetate)
Wrist strap: Of adjustable length (with hook and loop fastener), left and right
marked respectively
Available pole tips: rubber, carbide (interchangeable, both supplied)
Basket: small trekking basket (no winter basket presently appears to be
available)
Stuff sack: Grey nylon and mesh, with hook and loop closure and inner pocket for
spare tips

Folded pole
Black Diamond Distance FL Trekking pole, folded

INITIAL IMPRESSIONS
The poles were received in excellent condition in the manufacturer's sales
packaging: a cardboard sleeve with printed specs, a printed oval card
graphically showing the method of deployment and folding, and an instruction
brochure in six languages. The pole design, although it makes use of similar
locking mechanisms to those in other Black Diamond poles, seems highly
innovative; all parts are connected with a single cord encased in molded
plastic. There are a total of four pole sections plus the handle to which a
fifth section is attached (although when folded, the handle and upper two
sections form one single length of a total of three). [see image above]

This is the first pole I have seen that collapses by folding, rather than
telescoping. The advantage of this is that the collapsed length is minimized; at
15 1/2 inches (39 cm) the poles will fit in most daypacks and all backpacks I
own. The graphic design of the pole sections is quite attractive, with
graduations of length clearly marked in two inch (5 cm) increments. The overall
impression is that much thought and innovation went into the equipment's
construction.

The poles have a limited one-year warranty to the original owner. The
informational brochure is extremely detailed and covers all aspects of use


Folded pole
Pair of folded trekking poles in stuff sack

Design and materials

The Black Diamond Distance FL trekking poles are of adjustable length, though
with only an 8 inch (20 cm) range, small in comparison to many "one size fits
all" poles. Practically speaking, that seems still seems to me a sufficient
range for ascent and descent (generally, I use a shorter pole length for ascent,
a longer one for descent). Length adjustment is made by sliding the pole handle
so that the locking mechanism is aligned with the desired length marking. Black
Diamond uses its patented FlickLock system as the lock for this portion of the
pole. This is a friction based camming device that is unlocked and locked by
raising or lowering a lever on a small plastic mechanism wrapping around the
pole section. The "grippiness" of the FlickLock may be controlled by tightening
a screw on one side, although (in my experience) this is an adjustment needed
only rarely.

This is pretty much where the resemblance to standard trekking poles ends.
Starting from the very end, the tip and basket are a cast plastic fitting
mounted over the lower end of the pole. There are two tips offered (as noted
above, both are included). The poles arrived with a rubber tip, which locks into
place with a notched rim. As I prefer the grip offered by carbide steel, I
unscrewed these (a small pair of pliers is handy for this; I used those on a
multitool I often carry), and swapped in the preferred carbide tips. This was a
fast and easy operation. Each of the baskets has a cutout so that it can be
latched against one of the opposing pole sections when folded. Both spare tips
and entire basket assemblies are offered inexpensively by Black Diamond, so
(though I have not yet attempted it) the basket does detach from the pole. I
found no winter basket option offered, though this perhaps may change.


Rear of Jacket
Carbide tip and basket on bottom pole section.

The bottom pole section slides into the central pole section, and the central
section into the upper pole/handle assembly. All sections are connected by a
continuous cord that's covered with a molded plastic sheath. To assemble the
pole, the lowest section of the handle section of the pole is grasped with one
hand, and the handle itself in the other, and the two are pulled apart. The pull
is transmitted through the entire length of the pole, to all sections, and the
conical guides help ensure that the sections slide smoothly into position. A
spring loaded button pops out (with an audible snap, providing a positive
indication that the pole is locked). Then fine length adjustments can be made
with the assistance of the FlickLock device. Below is an image of the pole with
the locking button engaged, and with the FlickLock open so that a length
adjustments can be made.

Folded pole
Lock between middle and top section (left), FlickLock mechanism (right)

Extending and folding the poles are very straightforward procedures, though
(because of the unusual mechanism) the first couple of times it seemed a little
awkward. I've found that it becomes second nature with a very little practice.
To collapse the pole, pretty much the opposite procedure is used. The spring
loaded button is depressed, and the section above it is pulled over it so it
can't pop out, and so that there is slack in the cord. Then, with a couple of
brief tugs the pole sections are separated, and the pole can be folded. Finally,
the Flicklock is disengaged so that the handle can slide down flush with the
other pole sections, and then locked back in position. Very simple and elegant!
Below is Black Diamond's graphic (better than I could ever draw) from an
enclosed card, demonstrating how to unfold the pole.


Jacket interior
Graphic demonstrating opening pole (Courtesy Black Diamond)

The handle is comfortable, and has an extended section for a choke grip, handy
if one wants a momentary shortening of the pole without altering the pole length
with the FlickLock. The wrist straps are clearly marked as to which are left and
right, and are easily adjusted to an appropriate length. The manual discusses
how the straps can be replaced (they are held in position by a loop of cord).
Additionally, the manual discusses adjusting the tension of the Z-pole cord
(which can loosen slightly over time), cleaning the poles (all poles should be
periodically cleaned), FlickLock adjustment, warranty etc.

I have used the poles for a preliminary hike, ascending and descending a local
peak with fairly significant elevation gain. They performed flawlessly. They
have a very slight flex, which serves to dampen pole impact, and I found them
agreeably light. My only reservations to date are how they will serve as end
supports in my Double Rainbow Tarptent, but I'm confident that if they are a
little short (the poles I am presently using are a little longer), I will be
able to improvise a solution.

SUMMARY
I'm very intrigued by the unusual design of these poles, and I'm impressed by
the engineering savvy that went into their design. The fact that they can be
packed away is a big plus to my mind, as all too often poles that are lengthier
when folded down will catch on branches and otherwise misbehave. Kudos the Black
Diamond for this innovation. I will be reporting in coming months how they work
out in the field, as I will want to know if any durability has been sacrificed
in

My thanks go to Black Diamond and BackpackGearTest for the opportunity to test
the Black Diamond Distance FL trekking poles. This report was partly created
with the BackpackGearTest.org Report Writer Version 1.5. Copyright 2008. All
rights reserved.

#68814 From: "Edward" <erd@...>
Date: Sun Jun 5, 2011 8:07 pm
Subject: IR-TED, Black Diamond Z Poles
edwardripley...
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Hello Ralph,

When you get back, the IR is at

http://www.backpackgeartest.org/reviews/test/TESTS/TED-Black%20Diamond%20poles/

Text follows:

BLACK DIAMOND DISTANCE FL TREKKING POLES
TEST SERIES BY EDWARD RIPLEY-DUGGAN

INITIAL REPORT: June 3, 2011

FIELD REPORT: To come in early August

LONG TERM REPORT: To come in early October

TESTER INFORMATION
NAME:  Edward Ripley-Duggan
EMAIL:  erd@...
AGE:  57
LOCATION:  Catskills, New York State
GENDER:  M
HEIGHT:  6' 0" (1.85 m)
WEIGHT:  220 lb (97.50 kg)
I enjoy walking in all its forms, from a simple stroll in the woods to multi-day
backpack excursions. Though by no means an extreme ultra-light enthusiast, from
spring to fall my preference is to carry a pack weight (before food and water)
of 12 lb (5.5 kg), more or less. In recent years, I've rapidly moved to a
philosophy of "lighter is better," within the constraints of budget and common
sense.

INITIAL REPORT

PRODUCT INFORMATION & SPECIFICATIONS

Manufacturer: Black Diamond
Year of manufacture: 2011
Manufacturer's Web site: www.blackdiamondequipment.com
MSRP: $119.95
Color: Aspen Gold (the only color available)
Length (stated): 47-55 in (120-140 cm) (the largest of three sizes offered)
Other sizes: 37-43 in (95-110 cm); 41-49 in [105-125 cm]
Measured length, fully extended: 55 inches (140 cm), tip to top of handle
Length folded: 15 1/2 inches (39 cm)
Listed weight: 16 oz (460 g)
Measured weight: 16 oz (460 g); in provided storage sack with both sets of
points in interior pocket 17 oz (480 cm)
N.B. (The weight of the tips and bag individually is less than the tolerance of
my scale)
Country of origin: US
Shaft material: Aluminum
Grip: EVA (i.e. ethylene-vinyl acetate)
Wrist strap: Of adjustable length (with hook and loop fastener), left and right
marked respectively
Available pole tips: rubber, carbide (interchangeable, both supplied)
Basket: small trekking basket (no winter basket presently appears to be
available)
Stuff sack: Grey nylon and mesh, with hook and loop closure and inner pocket for
spare tips

Folded pole
Black Diamond Distance FL Trekking pole, folded

INITIAL IMPRESSIONS
The poles were received in excellent condition in the manufacturer's sales
packaging: a cardboard sleeve with printed specs, a printed oval card
graphically showing the method of deployment and folding, and an instruction
brochure in six languages. The pole design, although it makes use of similar
locking mechanisms to those in other Black Diamond poles, seems highly
innovative; all parts are connected with a single cord encased in molded
plastic. There are a total of four pole sections plus the handle to which a
fifth section is attached (although when folded, the handle and upper two
sections form one single length of a total of three). [see image above]

This is the first pole I have seen that collapses by folding, rather than
telescoping. The advantage of this is that the collapsed length is minimized; at
15 1/2 inches (39 cm) the poles will fit in most daypacks and all backpacks I
own. The graphic design of the pole sections is quite attractive, with
graduations of length clearly marked in two inch (5 cm) increments. The overall
impression is that much thought and innovation went into the equipment's
construction.

The poles have a limited one-year warranty to the original owner. The
informational brochure is extremely detailed and covers all aspects of use


Folded pole
Pair of folded trekking poles in stuff sack

Design and materials

The Black Diamond Distance FL trekking poles are of adjustable length, though
with only an 8 inch (20 cm) range, small in comparison to many "one size fits
all" poles. Practically speaking, that seems still seems to me a sufficient
range for ascent and descent (generally, I use a shorter pole length for ascent,
a longer one for descent). Length adjustment is made by sliding the pole handle
so that the locking mechanism is aligned with the desired length marking. Black
Diamond uses its patented FlickLock system as the lock for this portion of the
pole. This is a friction based camming device that is unlocked and locked by
raising or lowering a lever on a small plastic mechanism wrapping around the
pole section. The "grippiness" of the FlickLock may be controlled by tightening
a screw on one side, although (in my experience) this is an adjustment needed
only rarely.

This is pretty much where the resemblance to standard trekking poles ends.
Starting from the very end, the tip and basket are a cast plastic fitting
mounted over the lower end of the pole. There are two tips offered (as noted
above, both are included). The poles arrived with a rubber tip, which locks into
place with a notched rim. As I prefer the grip offered by carbide steel, I
unscrewed these (a small pair of pliers is handy for this; I used those on a
multitool I often carry), and swapped in the preferred carbide tips. This was a
fast and easy operation. Each of the baskets has a cutout so that it can be
latched against one of the opposing pole sections when folded. Both spare tips
and entire basket assemblies are offered inexpensively by Black Diamond, so
(though I have not yet attempted it) the basket does detach from the pole. I
found no winter basket option offered, though this perhaps may change.


Rear of Jacket
Carbide tip and basket on bottom pole section.

The bottom pole section slides into the central pole section, and the central
section into the upper pole/handle assembly. All sections are connected by a
continuous cord that's covered with a molded plastic sheath. To assemble the
pole, the lowest section of the handle section of the pole is grasped with one
hand, and the handle itself in the other, and the two are pulled apart. The pull
is transmitted through the entire length of the pole, to all sections, and the
conical guides help ensure that the sections slide smoothly into position. A
spring loaded button pops out (with an audible snap, providing a positive
indication that the pole is locked). Then fine length adjustments can be made
with the assistance of the FlickLock device. Below is an image of the pole with
the locking button engaged, and with the FlickLock open so that a length
adjustments can be made.

Folded pole
Lock between middle and top section (left), FlickLock mechanism (right)

Extending and folding the poles are very straightforward procedures, though
(because of the unusual mechanism) the first couple of times it seemed a little
awkward. I've found that it becomes second nature with a very little practice.
To collapse the pole, pretty much the opposite procedure is used. The spring
loaded button is depressed, and the section above it is pulled over it so it
can't pop out, and so that there is slack in the cord. Then, with a couple of
brief tugs the pole sections are separated, and the pole can be folded. Finally,
the FlickLock is disengaged so that the handle can slide down flush with the
other pole sections, and then locked back in position. Very simple and elegant!
Below is Black Diamond's graphic (better than I could ever draw) from an
enclosed card, demonstrating how to unfold the pole.


Jacket interior
Graphic demonstrating opening pole (Courtesy Black Diamond)

The handle is comfortable, and has an extended section for a choke grip, handy
if one wants a momentary shortening of the pole without altering the pole length
with the FlickLock. The wrist straps are clearly marked as to which are left and
right, and are easily adjusted to an appropriate length. The manual discusses
how the straps can be replaced (they are held in position by a loop of cord).
Additionally, the manual discusses adjusting the tension of the Z-pole cord
(which can loosen slightly over time), cleaning the poles (all poles should be
periodically cleaned), FlickLock adjustment, warranty etc.

I have used the poles for a preliminary hike, ascending and descending a local
peak with fairly significant elevation gain. They performed flawlessly. They
have a very slight flex, which serves to dampen pole impact, and I found them
agreeably light. My only reservations to date are how they will serve as end
supports in my Double Rainbow Tarptent, but I'm confident that if they are a
little short (the poles I am presently using are a little longer), I will be
able to improvise a solution.

SUMMARY
I'm very intrigued by the unusual design of these poles, and I'm impressed by
the engineering savvy that went into their design. The fact that they can be
packed away is a big plus to my mind, as all too often poles that are lengthier
when folded down will catch on branches and otherwise misbehave. Kudos the Black
Diamond for this innovation. I will be reporting in coming months how they work
out in the field, as I will want to know if any durability has been sacrificed
in

My thanks go to Black Diamond and BackpackGearTest for the opportunity to test
the Black Diamond Distance FL trekking poles. This report was partly created
with the BackpackGearTest.org Report Writer Version 1.5. Copyright 2008. All
rights reserved.

#68815 From: "Dingo" <tookieblueeyes@...>
Date: Sun Jun 5, 2011 8:28 pm
Subject: Application - Sea to Summit eVent Compression Dry Sack - Erin M. Hedden
blackdingo_007
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1. Please accept my application to test the Sea to Summit eVent Compression Dry
Sack. I have recently read and reviewed the entire Survival Guide and not only
do I understand it, I accept it and agree to comply with all of the report
requirements, inluding Chapter 5, found in the BackpackGearTest bylaws v0609.
A copy of my test agreement is on file.

2. Tester Information:
NAME: Erin M. Hedden
AGE: 32
GENDER: Female
HEIGHT: 5'9" (1.75m)
WEIGHT: 153lbs (96kg)
EMAIL: tookieblueeyes@...
LOCATION: Southeastern Colorado, U.S.A.

Backpacking Background: I have been backpacking since 4 years of age, taking
week long trips into the mountains with my family. I hike various terrains
ranging from mountains and plateaus to grasslands and prairies. My excursions
can be a simple day hike with a light-weight waist pack, a loop trail requiring
up to 4 nights and
5 days on which I keep my pack as light-weight as possible, or an in-and-out
trip for a night or two where my pack can be quite heavy. Slow and steady is my
pace and I use a tent or a hammock depending on weather and terrain.

3. BRIEF TEST PLAN:
For my test plan I would like to see how easy or how hard it is to pack, unpack
and use the compression system. I will see just what its capacity is and test
the stress capacity as well as its ability to keep things dry or if there is a
need to double bag anything. I have several trips planned on which these things
can all be tested including one trip down the Colorado River on a rafting
adventure.


4. POSTED REPORTS:
http://www.backpackgeartest.org/tester_reviews/tookieblueeyes

5. TESTER PAGE:
http://teststatus.backpackgeartest.org/T1886.htm\

6. OWNER REVIEWS:
3 Owner reviews completed.

7. CURRENT TESTS:
Past Primitive Pocket Stove, Red Ledge Mirage Softshell Jacket
& Benchmade Bone Collector 15000

8. CURRENT APS:
Camelbak 2011 Highwire

9. ADDITIONAL ROLES:
None

#68816 From: "asklarry99" <asklarry98@...>
Date: Sun Jun 5, 2011 8:53 pm
Subject: EDIT: LTR - Cocoons Sunglasses - Jerry Adams
asklarry99
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Hi Jerry-

Well, even cheapskates need sunglasses sometimes :)

I found only one thing for you to fix, and then you are good to go.

See you on down the trail...

-larry

------------------

EDIT:  May 9 - 15 - I used the Cocoons for a few hours on 4 night backpack on
Herman Creek in North central Oregon.
>>>By my count May 9-15 would be a 7 day/6 night trip, no? Can you please
clarify and adjust the text appropriately. Thanks

#68817 From: "Edward" <erd@...>
Date: Sun Jun 5, 2011 11:52 pm
Subject: REVISED: IR-TED, Black Diamond Z Poles
edwardripley...
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Hello Ralph,

When you get back, the IR is at

http://www.backpackgeartest.org/reviews/test/TESTS/TED-Black%20Diamond%20poles/

Revised Text follows:

BLACK DIAMOND DISTANCE FL TREKKING POLES
TEST SERIES BY EDWARD RIPLEY-DUGGAN

INITIAL REPORT: June 3, 2011

FIELD REPORT: To come in early August

LONG TERM REPORT: To come in early October

TESTER INFORMATION
NAME:  Edward Ripley-Duggan
EMAIL:  erd@...
AGE:  57
LOCATION:  Catskills, New York State
GENDER:  M
HEIGHT:  6' 0" (1.85 m)
WEIGHT:  220 lb (97.50 kg)
I enjoy walking in all its forms, from a simple stroll in the woods to multi-day
backpack excursions. Though by no means an extreme ultra-light enthusiast, from
spring to fall my preference is to carry a pack weight (before food and water)
of 12 lb (5.5 kg), more or less. In recent years, I've rapidly moved to a
philosophy of "lighter is better," within the constraints of budget and common
sense.

INITIAL REPORT

PRODUCT INFORMATION & SPECIFICATIONS

Manufacturer: Black Diamond
Year of manufacture: 2011
Manufacturer's Web site: www.blackdiamondequipment.com
MSRP: $119.95
Color: Aspen Gold (the only color available)
Length (stated): 47-55 in (120-140 cm) (the largest of three sizes offered)
Other sizes: 37-43 in (95-110 cm); 41-49 in [105-125 cm]
Measured length, fully extended: 55 inches (140 cm), tip to top of handle
Length folded: 15 1/2 inches (39 cm)
Listed weight: 16 oz (460 g)
Measured weight: 16 oz (460 g); in provided storage sack with both sets of
points in interior pocket 17 oz (480 cm)
N.B. The weight of the tips and bag individually is less than the tolerance of
my scale
Country of origin: US
Shaft material: Aluminum
Grip: EVA (i.e. ethylene-vinyl acetate)
Wrist strap: Of adjustable length (with hook and loop fastener), left and right
marked respectively
Available pole tips: rubber, carbide (interchangeable, both supplied)
Basket: small trekking basket (the poles are described as three season, so no
winter basket is available)
Stuff sack: Grey nylon and mesh, with hook and loop closure and inner pocket for
spare tips

Folded pole
Black Diamond Distance FL Trekking pole, folded

INITIAL IMPRESSIONS
The poles were received in excellent condition in the manufacturer's sales
packaging: a cardboard sleeve with printed specs, a printed card graphically
showing the method of deployment and folding, an instruction brochure in six
languages etc. The pole design, although it makes use of similar locking
mechanisms to those found in other Black Diamond poles, seems highly innovative;
all parts are connected with a single cord encased in molded plastic. There are
a total of four pole sections plus the handle to which a fifth section is
attached (although when folded, the handle and upper two sections form one
single length of a total of three). [see image above]

This is the first pole I have seen that collapses by folding, rather than
telescoping. The advantage of this is that the collapsed length is minimized; at
15 1/2 inches (39 cm) the poles will fit in most daypacks and all backpacks I
own. The graphic design of the pole sections is quite attractive, with
graduations of length clearly marked in two inch (5 cm) increments. The overall
impression is that much thought and innovation went into the equipment's
construction.

The poles have a limited one-year warranty to the original owner. The
informational brochure is extremely detailed and covers all aspects of use


Folded pole
Pair of folded trekking poles in stuff sack

Design and materials

The Black Diamond Distance FL trekking poles are of adjustable length, though
they have only an 8 inch (20 cm) range, small in comparison to many "one size
fits all" poles. Practically speaking, that seems to me a sufficient range for
ascent and descent (generally, I use a shorter pole length for ascent, a longer
one for descent). Length adjustment is made by sliding the pole handle so that
the locking mechanism is aligned with the desired length marking. Black Diamond
uses its patented FlickLock system as the lock for this portion of the pole.
This is a friction device that is unlocked and locked by raising or lowering the
lever on a small plastic mechanism wrapped around a pole section. The
"grippiness" of the FlickLock may be controlled by tightening a screw on one
side, although (in my experience) this is an adjustment needed only rarely.

This is pretty much where the resemblance to standard trekking poles ends. To
start from the very end, the tip and basket are a cast plastic fitting mounted
over the lower end of the pole. There are two tips offered (as noted above, both
are included). The poles arrived with a rubber tip, which locks into place with
a notched rim. As I prefer the grip offered by carbide steel, I unscrewed these
(a small pair of pliers is handy for this; I used those on a multitool I often
carry), and swapped in my preferred carbide tips. This was a fast and easy
operation. Each of the baskets has a cutout so that it can be latched against
one of the opposing pole sections when folded, to save space. Both the spare
tips and the entire basket assembly are offered inexpensively by Black Diamond,
so (though I have not yet attempted it) the basket must detach from the pole. I
found no winter basket option offered; these are stated as being three season
poles on the packaging, so this will likely not change.


Rear of Jacket
Carbide tip and basket on bottom pole section.

The bottom section of the pole attaches to the central pole section by a metal
sleeve, and the central section into the upper pole/handle assembly. All the
sections are connected by a continuous cord that's covered with a molded plastic
sheath. To assemble the pole, the lowest portion of the handle section of the
pole is grasped with one hand, and the handle itself in the other, and the two
are pulled apart. This pull is transmitted through the entire length of the
pole, to all sections, and the conical guides help ensure that the components
slide smoothly into position. When fully extended, a spring-loaded button pops
out (with an audible snap, providing a positive indication that the pole is
locked). Then fine length adjustments can be made, with the assistance of the
FlickLock device. Below is an image of the pole with the locking button engaged,
and with the FlickLock open so that a length adjustments can be made by sliding
the lock down to the required length.

Folded pole
Lock between middle and top section (left), FlickLock mechanism (right)

Both extending and folding the poles are very straightforward procedures, though
(because of the unusual mechanism) the first couple of times I tried opening and
closing them the method seemed a little awkward to me. I've now found that it
becomes second nature with very little practice. To collapse the pole, pretty
much the opposite procedure is used to extending it. The spring loaded button is
depressed, and the section above it is pulled over it so the latch can't pop out
(and so that there is now ample slack in the cord). Then, with a couple of brief
and effortless tugs the pole sections are separated, and the pole can be folded.
Finally, the Flicklock is disengaged so that the handle can slide down flush
with the other pole sections, and it is then locked back in position. Very
simple and elegant! Below is Black Diamond's graphic (better than I could ever
draw) from an enclosed card, demonstrating how to unfold the pole.


Jacket interior
Graphic demonstrating opening pole (Courtesy Black Diamond)

The EVA handle is comfortable, and has an extended section for a choke grip,
handy if one wants a momentary shortening of the pole without altering the pole
length with the FlickLock. The wrist straps are clearly marked as to which pole
is left and right, and are easily adjusted to an appropriate length. The manual
discusses how the straps can be replaced (they are held in position by a loop of
cord). Additionally, the manual discusses adjusting the tension of the Z-pole
cord (which can loosen slightly over time), cleaning the poles (all poles should
be periodically cleaned), FlickLock adjustment, warranty etc.

I have used the poles for a preliminary hike, ascending and descending a local
peak with fairly significant elevation gain. They performed flawlessly. They
have a very slight flex, which serves to dampen pole impact on the wrist, and I
found them agreeably light. My only reservations to date are how well they will
serve as end supports in my Double Rainbow Tarptent, but I'm pretty confident
that even if they are a little short (the poles I am presently using are a tad
longer), I will be able to improvise a solution.

SUMMARY
I'm very intrigued by the unusual design of these poles, and I'm impressed by
the engineering savvy that went into their design. The fact that they can be
packed away is a big plus to my mind, as all too often poles that are lengthier
when folded down will catch on branches and otherwise misbehave. Kudos to Black
Diamond for this innovation. I will be reporting in coming months how the poles
work out in the field, as I will want to know if any durability has been
sacrificed in this design.

My thanks go to Black Diamond and BackpackGearTest for the opportunity to test
the Black Diamond Distance FL trekking poles. This report was partly created
with the BackpackGearTest.org Report Writer Version 1.5. Copyright 2008. All
rights reserved.

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