We'll be testing it.

Jerry

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Lest you think I have finally gone bananas, see

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This is worth, at the least, a giggle. Maybe even a guffaw!

Ted.





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Hello to all,

I am going to play in the snow, yay! I should be back on Sunday.

Ray

I thought I was approved for my first test.  Dang it!  My fingers are
still crossed.

Jerry
"Max Power"





On Mar 1, 2006, at 12:09 PM, Coy wrote:

> No, and the bad/sad part is, I replied to that message.  I remember it
> now.  I somehow forgot to add yours to the pile.  Added now.  Thanks
>
> Coy Boy
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> > > OK guys/gals, I had slated this to close tonight but with only 2
> > > applications that aint happnin! I have applications from the
> > > following.
> > >
> > > Jerry Span
> > >
> > > Andrew Buskov
> > >
> > > Did I miss anyone?
> >
> >
> > Coy,
> >
> > Check message # 15327, I applied about 10 minutes after you posted
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Quick question: I'm not seeing lots of apps for the Suunto, and so am
glad to toss one into the ring - but, I was selected to test both the
Magellan GPS and associated software some time ago.

I don't think it would be prudent to test both - so I'm wondering if
we have any news on the Magellan. (I've held off on applying for lots
of things lately because I had a fairly full slate, but as it turned
out, several of the items were canceled - trying to get an early
"heads up" on this one if possible!)

Thanks,
Steve

Good Day:

I just found out that I have a new hiking trip coming up in early
April so am revising my app to include this new hike, also a few
corrections to typos.

Regards,

Russell

REVISED FOR INCLUSION OF A NEW TRIP

APPLICATION TO TEST
ROUGH RIDER EXTREME ADVENTURE PANT

Please accept my application to test the Rough Rider Extreme Adventure
Pant.  I have read the BackpackGear Test Survival Guide, Version 1202,
and I will follow all requirements.  My tester agreement is on file
with Shane.

Tester Biography

Name: 		 Russell Curry
Age: 		 58
Gender: 		        Male
Height: 		 6�0� (1.83 m)
Weight: 		        185 lbs (84 kg)
Email Address: 	        mrqcace@...
City, State, Country:  Orange, TX, US
Date: 		 March 1, 2006

Size: 		 Mens Large
Color: 1st 		 Khaki
Color: 2d 	 Slate

Outdoor Background:

I began backpacking in the late 1960�s.  I have hiked extensively in
Western and Eastern Texas, the Grand Canyon & other Arizona sites,
Utah, Colorado, Louisiana, Alaska, Arkansas, Germany, Turkey, Greece,
Italy and many other locations in a variety of terrain, desert,
mountains and forests. I am a 4-season backpacker and have hiked in
temperatures as low as 5� f (-15 C) to as high as 110� f  (43 C).  My
gear ranges from mid-weight to ultra-light weight. My other outdoor
activities include mountain and road biking, rafting, canoeing, and
many other outdoor pursuits.

Expectation of Usage &
Field Information

My test plan will have me wearing these pants every time I am outdoors
on my trips. I belong to two large hiking and outdoor clubs and we
have several excursions planned for the upcoming months. I will be
participating in trips to my favorite local NP, Big Bend, then to
Indian Nations Trail in SE Oklahoma, onto Tucson for a week in Saguaro
NP, then onto Mt. Ranier NP for another week long trip. There are
other trips being planned that include Hawaii, China and Russia,
whether these would be within the time frame of this testing is
unknown as of this writing. Save it to say that if chosen for this
test, I will be wearing these pants in many different types of
conditions.

I expect hikes ranging from sea level to 5000 ft (1500 m) in elevations.
I expect temperatures to vary from lows of 25 F (4 C) to 90 F(32 C)
I expect conditions to vary from dry, rocky scrub to verdant forests.
I expect to hike in the rain, cold, heat and possibly snow, on a
variety of trails.



JUST ADDED LAST MINUTE TRIP

I just found out that we have a week long trip coming up on short
notice to Jamaica. We leave on April 2d for a week. I have hiked in
the Yucatan before and expect similar conditions on this Jamaican
trip. These trails vary in steepness, and as can be expected, are in a
tropical  setting. I believe this would served well to inaugurate
these pants in very warm conditions, with lots of possibilities of
having to use the cuff closures to prevent entry from insects,
especially while in camp. I expect elevations to range to 1500 ft (457
m), and temperatures to vary from 70 to 90 F, (21 to 32 C).  I
understand we will have several stream crossings and will be hiking in
and around very wet areas, waterfalls, and similar. This will be my
first trip to Jamaica for a hike.

Big Bend National Park

I hike in Big Bend frequently in season. The trails are often rocky,
with numerous plants and desert flora, most of it sticky, with lots of
cactus, spiny plants, sharp rocky edges, stream crossings, and with
temperatures ranging from 50 to 90 F (10 to 32 C). The area is full of
creepy, clingy, crawling no-see-ums, not to mention the endless
variety of biting insects. This park would be an excellent test for
these pants, especially to test the cuff closures. Moving about on the
rocks, scrambling and climbing will also serve well to test the
flexibility of the trousers in high activity situations, not to
mention the reinforced areas of the pants.

Indian Nations Trail

Beautiful trails to hike, but in sometimes muddy conditions with many
stream crossings, through woody areas where there is lots of scrapes,
tugs and pulls on the pants as I make my way through the trails.  We
usually always hike the most difficult trails, those with many water
crossings, that are steep and that are not well defined, maintained
trails. This is another good test for these pants, where I can expect
many encounters with brush, limbs, briars, and other trouser tearing
plants.

Saguaro National Park

More terrain similar to Big Bend. I have not yet hiked in Saguaro but
will be spending a week here in the Spring.

Mt. Ranier National Park

This will be my first trip to Mt. Ranier. We expect to be climbing a
lot and hiking 12 to 15 miles, (14 to 19 km) per day. Spending the
days hiking, resting, scrambling and boulder-hopping should again
serve as a good test for these pants. I will also be able to see by
this time how the pants have held up to many washings, and being worn
through the hikes from Big Bend, Indian Nations, and Saguaro. Hikes at
the higher elevations should serve well to test the wind resistance of
the pants, and how they perform in cooler temperatures.

I will also be day hiking in my local park with the pants, where the
trails are very tight, muddy and pass through many brambles, briars,
sharp-edged tropical fan plants and more. I would do at least one or
two day hikes in this little park just as a warm-up for the major hikes.

Background specific to this test

I currently wear technical hiking pants, some that convert to shorts,
others that do not. I much prefer the quick drying, lightweight,
adaptable and practical pant that offers up a combination of pockets,
belt, reinforced seams and closure systems. I found the need for a
pant exactly like the Railrider on a hike to the Grand Canyon a few
years ago when I stumbled into a large patch of stinging nettles and
had my shorts on. I find that for the most part, I hike in long pants,
and wear the shorts  around camp or when hiking where I have to cross
streams. I have been shopping for new hiking pants for my upcoming
trips and could really use these. My current pants are several years
old and I have had to sew repairs in a few places.


Test Plan

If selected, I will be testing these pants for the following
properties, definitely not inclusive, and  for other characteristics
that may present themselves.

Appearance
	 The general appearance, color, style, fit and finish of the
pant as received out of the box. Is the fabric smooth, well stitched,
do the zippers work correctly?

  Are there enough belt loops?

         How deep are the pockets?
	 How well do the zippered pockets secure their contents?
	 Are the bottoms of the pockets reinforced?
What type belt comes with the pant? Is the buckle oversized or
undersized? Is it easy to remove the belt from the loops, or
vice-versa, how easy or difficult is it to lace the belt through the
loops?
Can I wear the pant without use of the belt?
Is there elastic around the waist?
What is the design of the cuff closure system?
How many threads can I pick from the fabric?
What do the pants actually weigh versus what is indicated on the website?

Comfort How do the pants feel on? Is the waist fit appropriate to my size?
	 Does the crotch bind?
	 How does the waist fasten, with button, velcro, snap?
	 Are the lengths of the legs appropriate to my size and the size of
the pant?
	 Are the legs baggy, tight, just right?
	 How easy is it to operate the zippered pockets?
	 How easy/hard is it operate the rear pockets, can I get a wallet or
similar item in there? Is it secure?
	 Can I turn out the pockets to shake out sand, dirt, etc?
	 How comfortable is the cuff closure system? Is it easily adjustable,
does it do a good job of sealing itself against my leg?
	 How easy/difficult will it be to put the pants on over my hiking
shoes or boots?
	 Do the pants make a �rustling� sound when I walk? Is it comfortable
to sit in the pants, Indian style, how about when kneeling or doing
activity in the pant?
	 Do I create a static charge when moving about in the pant?
	 Do the pants cling to my legs if wet? How do they wear with my silk
long johns or similar underclothes?
	 Are they excessively hot to wear when the weather is warm?
	 Do they help in cold to keep my legs warm?


Field Observations Do the pants �snag� easy if wearing in brush?
	 How quickly will they dry when wet?
	 Can I roll up the tapered legs if needed for stream crossings?
	 Do the reinforced parts of the pant perform as suggested?
	 Are the pants tear resistant?
	 How do the zippers resist fouling from dirt, mud, rain, etc?
	 How well does the fabric �wick� ?
	 How well do the pants breathe?
	 Are the pants wind resistant?
	 Do the pants pack well, unpack well (crinkly, etc)?

Durability Do the pants hold up well to machine washing?
	 Can I dry the pants using my machine, or air dry only?
	 Are there special washing instructions?
	 Can I do a good job of field washing these pants?
	 Do the pants shrink after washing and drying, either by machine or air?
	 Do the pants still fit properly after several washings/dryings?
	 How fast are the colors? Do the colors fade after washing?

Style Are the pants good looking?
	 Would I feel comfortable wearing them to town?
	 How do they fit when I wear layers for shirts and tuck them   into
the pant?
	 Does the main zipper stay up?
	 Can I wear a different or wider belt with the pant?
	 How do the pants look with my other apparel?


I have just gotten back on track with my field endeavors from the
ravages of Hurricane Rita. My hometown suffered a direct hit back in
September, causing me to lose the Thorlo sock test that I was
initially awarded. I was able to complete my obligations that I had
with Spenco, Dunham and the Ledhez light. The recovery has kept me
from contributing as much as I had wanted, but I can now see the light
at the end of the tunnel, (hopefully it�s not another hurricane)!!  I
really do have a need for these pants, and can guarantee if selected
to do a very good series of reports.

Here is the link to all of my reports and gear tests:

http://tinyurl.com/5tv24

Previously Written Reports:

Hiking Colorados Weminuche Wilderness

Ozark Highlands Trail Guide

Sling-Light Backpack Camp Chair

Tilley LT6 Lightweighter Hat

CamelBak M.U.L.E.

Victorinox Classic Pocket Knife

OR Crocs Cayman Shoes

MaryJanesFarm Backcountry Foods

Completed Tests:

Six Moon Designs Lunar Solo

Probars

Smith Axis

Spenco IR

Dunham IR

LedHedz

Currently Testing Other Items:

None at present

Thank you for your consideration:

Russell Curry

> (and who's the "nut" climbing that rock?????  Wish I could do that LOL)
Typical sandstone country around Sydney: the spurs and ridges have 'scarps' on
the edges. These are layers of hard stone
which make distinct edges. You have to get up and down them to keep travelling.
But the friction on them is usually
pretty good, albeit hard on the shoes.
Anyhow, that's my wife, Sue. We both used to do lead rockclimbing, but no more.

Cheers
Roger Caffin

Here is my LTR on these fine socks:


http://www.backpackgeartest.org/reviews/test/TESTS/LTR%20-%20Darn%20Tough%20Verm\
ont%20Boot%20Socks%20-%20Gail/

Long Term Report:
Darn Tough Vermont Boot Socks

By Gail Staisil, Marquette, Michigan
March 1, 2006


Tester Information

Personal Data:

     Name: Gail Staisil
     Age: 53
     Gender: Female
     Height: 5' 9" (1.75 m)
     Weight: 140 lbs (64 kg)
     Location: Marquette, Michigan USA
     Email: woodswoman2001@...
     Photo Album Website:
http://community.webshots.com/user/isleroyalegirl


Backpacking Background:

     For the last 16 years, backpacking has become a
passion. I am a four-season backpacker and an
off-trail navigator. Although I do take yearly trips
to the American West or Southwest, the majority of my
trips are in Michigan and Canada. My pack weight
varies considerably, but my base weight is below 20
lbs (9.1 kg). I am primarily a tarp camper who
averages over 50 nights a year backpacking in a huge
variety of weather conditions including relentless
rain, wet snow and sub-zero temps.

Darn Tough Boot Socks--Technical Description


Overview:

The Full-Cushion Boot Socks are made out of a
combination of Merino Wool (62%), Nylon (34%) and
Lycra Spandex (4%). Specifically designed for
trekking, the socks feature high-density terry-loop
padding, knit-in elastic support at the arch,
form-fitting toe boxes, ribbing at the ankles and
sculpted heel pockets. For a more complete description
of the boot socks, please see my initial report.

Product Information:

Manufacturer: Darn Tough - Cabot Hosiery Mills, Inc.
Website: http://www.darntough.com
Phone: 1.877.327.6783
Model: Darn Tough Full-Cushion Boot Socks
Model Year: 2005
Materials: Merino Wool (62%), Nylon (34%), Lycra
Spandex (4%)
Color: Forest
Sock Size: Large
My Boot Size: Women's 10.5 US (42.5 EU)
Manufacturer's Weight: Not listed
Actual Weight: 3.5 oz (99 g)
MSRP: Not listed



Field Testing Data

Field Locations/Conditions

During the long-term testing period of two months, I
have worn the Darn Tough Vermont Boot Socks on almost
a daily basis for hiking, cross country skiing,
snowshoeing and everyday wear. Many locations were
within one hundred miles of my home near Lake Superior
in Michigan's Upper Peninsula. They included local ski
and hiking trails through deciduous forest and open
areas along the lakeshores. I also wore the boot socks
on two winter sledge trips in Michigan and Canada.
Winter weather varied from overcast and calm to heavy
snowfall and wind. Temperatures ranged from a low of 1
F ( -17 C) to a high of 35 F ( 2 C ) with humidity in
the normal range of 60 to 95 percent for those areas.
All of the outings and trips were at low altitude
ranging from 600 ft (183 m) to almost 2000 ft (610 m),
with a moderate amount of elevation changes.

Field Notes

Although I have answered most of my initial report
questions within my field report, I will briefly add
my thoughts on additional issues that I focused on
during the long-term testing period.

Versatility: How versatile were the socks while
wearing different types of footwear including
moosehide mukluks? During the last two months I have
been able to test the boot socks while wearing my
moose hide mukluks which have two thick felt liners in
them. In the past I have worn very thin wool socks
inside of the mukluks as I only needed a minor
covering due to the warmth of the mukluks. I decided
to try wearing the well cushioned boot socks instead
of the thin socks during a four day sledge trip in
January. The temperatures for this trip were mostly
warm for winter (20 F/ -7 C to 35 F/ 2 C). Did the
socks keep my feet too warm? They actually adapted
quite well to the temperatures and when I removed my
feet from the mukluks in the evenings I was happy that
the socks were just slightly damp to the touch.  How
about wearing vapor barrier liners? During extremely
cold conditions, I wear a vapor barrier made out of
silnylon over the socks to keep any moisture from
freezing the felt liners. This usually means that my
socks will retain the moisture that ordinarily would
travel into the felt liners. In February on my
five-day Canadian trip, I wore vapor barriers the
whole time I was out except for sleeping. The
temperatures on this trip ranged from a low of 1 F
(-17 C) to a high in the mid 20's F (-7 C). The vapor
barriers did make the boot socks damper than usual but
that was to be expected. I removed my mukluks, vapor
barriers, and boot socks each night before sleeping. I
put on a dry pair of boot socks and I put the damp
boot socks in the pockets of my pants while I slept.
They were dry in the morning due to body heat. The
process worked well.

Comfort/Fit: The boot socks have continued to fit well
and have not stretched out or lost their elasticity.
This continues to be important for doing a lot of
activities that require the same repetition or
movement. For example during several hours of cross
country skiing my feet are flexed through almost an
identical range of motion thousands of repetitions per
outing. I haven't experienced any blisters or sore
spots due to friction. This is highly important in any
endurance activity that I do.

Durability Issues: The three pairs of Darn Tough Boot
Socks that I received still look almost like new. They
have only the slightest fuzz on the surface of the
socks. I closely examined the tops of the heel areas
as that is where I often experience wear on my socks.
So far there are no indications of any thin spots.

Wick-ability: The socks continue to wick well while
wearing a variety of footwear including several types
of winter boots. Some of my winter boots have
sheepskin lining, some have felt liners and some have
a Gortex liner. The socks have performed well in all
categories and have kept my feet content. Even while
wearing vapor barriers, my feet never got cold or felt
uncomfortable as the moisture only evaporated to the
outside of the socks where it was trapped by the vapor
barriers.


Overall Thoughts

During the long-term testing period, I have reaffirmed
that the boot socks have many fine qualities. They
have been worn and washed extensively and have shown
little signs of wear. They continue to be comfortable,
fit well, retain little-to-no odor and can be
successfully used with a variety of footwear. My only
personal dislike has been the length of the socks.
Because of my overall satisfaction with these socks, I
will be investigating other options that Darn Tough
produces. According to their website, they have a
variety of one/quarter length sock options including
the cushioned boot socks. That sounds perfect to me.

Comments:


Thanks to Darn Tough Vermont and BGT for the
opportunity to test and introduce me to a very fine
product.








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I'd like the reviews to include DPS--dollars per squat--please.

Thank you,

--Rick

--- In backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com, "Jerry Goller"
<ChiefModerator@...> wrote:
>
> We'll be testing it.
>
> Jerry
>
>  <http://www.backpackgeartest.org/> http://www.BackpackGearTest.org
: the
> most comprehensive interactive gear reviews and tests on the planet.

Sort of hard to do seeing how we only test for 4 months. If I went out
with it every day during the test period that would be 120 days = 120
squats = 1.25 DPS. I'm not sure what pay toilets charge nowadays, but
over a lifetime it should be much lower.

Still, there must be another use for this trowel ;-). BUT, if this is
just a trowel, and I tested it like it was, oh, say, some kind of tool
for hiking in snow, would that we outside the manufacturer's intended
purpose? <grin>

Bill

> I'd like the reviews to include DPS--dollars per squat--please.

So are we testing it for snowcamping season (trowel, digging out
stakes, etc.) or for glacier travel season (self-arrests,boot-axe
belays, etc. - or is this something not recommended by the mfg -->
can't be included in the test plan)?  The weight sure is nice, but if
it breaks in the field, then it's just dead weight...  David

On 3/1/06, AsABat <wjj2001@...> wrote:
> Sort of hard to do seeing how we only test for 4 months. If I went out
> with it every day during the test period that would be 120 days = 120
> squats = 1.25 DPS. I'm not sure what pay toilets charge nowadays, but
> over a lifetime it should be much lower.
>
> Still, there must be another use for this trowel ;-). BUT, if this is
> just a trowel, and I tested it like it was, oh, say, some kind of tool
> for hiking in snow, would that we outside the manufacturer's intended
> purpose? <grin>
>
> Bill
>
> > I'd like the reviews to include DPS--dollars per squat--please.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

When is the deadline on the Suunto Test?
I am slowing overcoming my fear of the "Monster Techno Item Report".

This is an item that I really want, but fear the report writing.

TV


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It was originally called an ice axe (or something similar) and seemed
to aim at the early season long distance hikers that want something
more than a trekking pole but don't want to carry excess weight for
something that would probably not really be needed. There was lots of
discussion about how well it would work, and a lack of certification.
Brian will have to tell us why he changed the name, but it is clever.
We're probably jumping the gun here and should wait for the test
call. I have been very interested since Brian first made it
available.

Bill

--- In backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com, "David Sowards-Emmerd"
<davese@...> wrote:
>
> So are we testing it for snowcamping season (trowel, digging out
> stakes, etc.) or for glacier travel season (self-arrests,boot-axe
> belays, etc. - or is this something not recommended by the mfg -->
> can't be included in the test plan)?  The weight sure is nice, but
if
> it breaks in the field, then it's just dead weight...  David
>
> On 3/1/06, AsABat <wjj2001@...> wrote:
> > Sort of hard to do seeing how we only test for 4 months. If I
went out
> > with it every day during the test period that would be 120 days =
120
> > squats = 1.25 DPS. I'm not sure what pay toilets charge nowadays,
but
> > over a lifetime it should be much lower.
> >
> > Still, there must be another use for this trowel ;-). BUT, if
this is
> > just a trowel, and I tested it like it was, oh, say, some kind of
tool
> > for hiking in snow, would that we outside the manufacturer's
intended
> > purpose? <grin>
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > > I'd like the reviews to include DPS--dollars per squat--please.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

hiking@... wrote:

>Leesa,
>
>We had additional issues that got the mod involved, one part still
>remained for Thomas to look over.
>
>mike
>
>
>
Mike,

I may be very confused here ..... or not.

The mod for this test is Jim - and he gave his approval in message 15538

Who is Thomas ?

-- Alex, the confused monitor for Kershaw Rainbow Leek.

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Yup, I was just curious when to expect the test call (not necessarily
interested though): immediately or next winter  versus  late
spring/summer.  Also, many of the US made axes aren't European 'B' or
'T' certified (not just this one).  There was an interesting
discussion 1 or more years ago in one of the climbing magazines about
the difference in US and Europe - there you've got to mfg to
regulations, here your only worries are about being sued...  getting a
little off topic ... D'OH
Cheers, David

On 3/1/06, AsABat <wjj2001@...> wrote:
> It was originally called an ice axe (or something similar) and seemed
> to aim at the early season long distance hikers that want something
> more than a trekking pole but don't want to carry excess weight for
> something that would probably not really be needed. There was lots of
> discussion about how well it would work, and a lack of certification.
> Brian will have to tell us why he changed the name, but it is clever.
> We're probably jumping the gun here and should wait for the test
> call. I have been very interested since Brian first made it
> available.
>
> Bill
>
> --- In backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com, "David Sowards-Emmerd"
> <davese@...> wrote:
> >
> > So are we testing it for snowcamping season (trowel, digging out
> > stakes, etc.) or for glacier travel season (self-arrests,boot-axe
> > belays, etc. - or is this something not recommended by the mfg -->
> > can't be included in the test plan)?  The weight sure is nice, but
> if
> > it breaks in the field, then it's just dead weight...  David
> >
> > On 3/1/06, AsABat <wjj2001@...> wrote:
> > > Sort of hard to do seeing how we only test for 4 months. If I
> went out
> > > with it every day during the test period that would be 120 days =
> 120
> > > squats = 1.25 DPS. I'm not sure what pay toilets charge nowadays,
> but
> > > over a lifetime it should be much lower.
> > >
> > > Still, there must be another use for this trowel ;-). BUT, if
> this is
> > > just a trowel, and I tested it like it was, oh, say, some kind of
> tool
> > > for hiking in snow, would that we outside the manufacturer's
> intended
> > > purpose? <grin>
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > > > I'd like the reviews to include DPS--dollars per squat--please.
> > >
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No edits - nice report.  Sounds like you guys have all had the same concern
as me - the length is too long - I, too, like shorter socks.  Maybe they'll
pick up on that and offer that sock in a couple of different lengths.

Upload when ready.

Jodi Cornelius
Darn Tough Vermont Sock Monitor


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hi,
   The YakTrax pro just arrived today.  Thanks to Canada Post, I had to
pick up the GST on them too.  Gave them a try and they fit so IR will
follow soon.

Kathryn

Oh, I suspect Brian wouldn't be too upset.......    =o)

Jerry

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Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 2:26 PM
To: backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [backpackgeartesters] Re: Can we test this potty trowel?


BUT, if this is
just a trowel, and I tested it like it was, oh, say, some kind of tool
for hiking in snow, would that we outside the manufacturer's intended
purpose? <grin>

Bill




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The website not withstanding, it is designed to perform self arrest. Period.
No belay. Not a technical ice axe nor should it be considered one.

Jerry

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From: backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David
Sowards-Emmerd
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 2:41 PM
To: backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [backpackgeartesters] Re: Can we test this potty trowel?


So are we testing it for snowcamping season (trowel, digging out
stakes, etc.) or for glacier travel season (self-arrests,boot-axe
belays, etc. - or is this something not recommended by the mfg -->
can't be included in the test plan)?  The weight sure is nice, but if
it breaks in the field, then it's just dead weight...  David

On 3/1/06, AsABat <wjj2001@...> wrote:
> Sort of hard to do seeing how we only test for 4 months. If I went out
> with it every day during the test period that would be 120 days = 120
> squats = 1.25 DPS. I'm not sure what pay toilets charge nowadays, but
> over a lifetime it should be much lower.
>
> Still, there must be another use for this trowel ;-). BUT, if this is
> just a trowel, and I tested it like it was, oh, say, some kind of tool
> for hiking in snow, would that we outside the manufacturer's intended
> purpose? <grin>
>
> Bill
>
> > I'd like the reviews to include DPS--dollars per squat--please.
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Sorry, you're right, getting my emails confused.

thanks,

mike


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With a SureFire flashlight. Yup, we've got these guys on board at BGT to test
their fine flashlights!!

We will be testing the L1 Lumimax!

From the surefire.com website:

L1 LumaMax®
Constructed of aerospace grade aluminum with a rugged military specification
hard-anodized finish, and powered by a single lithium battery (10-year shelf
life), the upgraded L1 LumaMax features a 3-watt LED (Light Emitting Diode), a
Total Internal Reflection (TIR) focusing lens, and the extended runtime
typical of LED flashlights. The L1's digitally controlled two-stage switch
allows
the user to choose either a low-output beam for close-up work or a high-output
beam for full power applications -- simply depress the tailcap switch halfway
for the low beam, continue depressing to activate the high beam. Twist the
tailcap to achieve constant light on either beam setting.
The L1 also features digital current regulation circuitry to match the LED's
current requirements with the battery's output to maintain a more consistent
level of light output for the useable life of the batteries (as opposed to
unregulated lights, which are subject to a steady decline in light intensity
beginning shortly after activation).
The L1 produces useable light for up to 90 hours on the low-beam setting;
high-beam runtime exceeds four hours. Unlike many LED flashlight manufacturers
--
who inflate the light output and usable runtimes of their LEDs -- SureFire
provides realistic output and runtime specifications based on scientifically
obtained measurements. Although any LED -- including those produced by SureFire
-- can continue to produce negligible light output for over 100 hours, the
amount of "useful" light produced is typically of a shorter duration.

Much more info is available at the website.
Fine Print:
- The one item newbie limit applies to this item.
- The test call will end next Tuesday at midnite EST.
-Applications and test plans will have to be sharp! I expect high interest
and demand on this very desireable item. Research it, think how you would test
it and get to work!
Jim S.

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APPLICATION TO TEST: Bridgedale X-Hale socks

The English are fond of saying that an army travels on it’s feet.
Well, so do hikers, and, like bad boots, bad socks can ruin a good
hike. These look X-cellent, and I would be truely X-cited to have the
opportunity to test the Bridgedale X-Hale sock. If selected to test
these X-tremely wonderful socks, I would require medium, but have no
preference in color.

Please consider my application to test the Bridgedale X-Hale socks, I
have read, and will comply, with the rules in revision #1202 of the
BGT Survival Guide.

My tester agreement is on file.


PERSONAL INFORMATION
Name:   Mike Lipay
Age:    50
Gender: Male
Height: 5 ft 8 in (173 cm)
Weight: 190 lbs (86 kg)
Email:  hikingATwesternpaDOTus
City, State: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania

BACKPACKING BACKGROUND
I've been hiking and backpacking with the Boy Scouts since the '60s,
although currently I hike more solo, with my kids, or as a trail
guide for a local outdoor group. I am no ultralight backpacker, my
pack (external frame) weighs 29-40 lbs (13-18 kgs) loaded (not
including food), though I am always on the look out for ways to cut
down on the weight. I'm a low-techie, preferring a hiking staff to
trekking poles, compass to GPS, fire to fuel; but I do carry some
techie stuff as well, recently switching over to a digital camera
from film, and an UV sterilizer from a filter pump.

APPLICATION
I would like the opportunity to test the Bridgedale X-Hale socks.
Over the years I have used several types of sock to cut down on the
hot spots from a long day hikes through the Pennsylvania mountains
where trails are constant ascents and descents on rocky ground, with
little success. Most of the time I end up wearing a pair of lining
socks which, while effective in reducing hot spots, make my feet
sweat to the point that I can wring the water out of them. The ides
of a socks specifically designed to keep feet cool, dry, and minus
hot spots sounds X-Citing!


TEST PLAN
I wear a size 8.5 (US), which equates to Bridgedale’s medium. I will
be testing the Bridgedale X-Hale socks in several shoes, as I switch
between hiking boots depending on the terrain and length of hike.
These shoes will include Merrell’s Pulse Low Hikers, Dolomite
Trekkers, and Sorel Caribous.

Initial test plan, should they arrive in time, is for a 10-K walk-a-
thon for the disabled, through city streets and parks, not exactly a
hiking trip but still a rough time for feet. Also included in the
field test phase are two backpacking trips in the Laurel Highlands
under the conditions described above.

During the remainder of the test period I will be teaching a
backpacking course that includes 5 weekend trips throughout the
Allegheny Mountains in Western Pa., 2-3 of which should occur during
this period. Finally, there is a weekend hiking trip in the Sproul
Mountains where elevation changes of 1,700 ft are not uncommon.

I also plan on wearing the Bridgedale X-Hales somewhat daily to
determine wear. Just wearing them on a few hikes won’t give an idea
of how long they will last, so I intend on wearing them 3-4 days per
week. This will also show how well they hold up to frequent washing,
ie., will they form little “fuzz balls” from the washing, or will
they remain smooth?

All of these conditions should give more than ample opportunity to
test the wicking features, along with the ability to protect from hot
spots.

EVALUTIONS
I will be paying particular attention to several details,
specifically areas where I have noticed problems with sick in the
past, these will include (but will not be limited to) the following:

- QUALITY: smoothness of the sock material itself, and especially
where the different materials meet, as poor construction here will
increase the likelihood of hot spots developing along the seams.

- FIT: how will they fit in each of the three boots? Every shoe is
constructed slightly differently from another, will they be too thick
for some and too thin for others? Will they slide around inside? Do
they leave sufficient room for the feet, or do they require slightly
larger shoes in order to provide a comfortable fit?

- COMFORT: First test is walking over hard pavement, are they
comfortable enough for every day usage, or can they not be worn for
day-to-day activities? How do they feel on the trail? Do they reduce
hot spots, and slippage of the foot? Do my  feet sweat at the end of
a hike? If so, under what conditions will they work and fail?

- ENDURANCE: Will this hold up to use and abuse? How long will it
last being used almost daily? Will they wear out quickly, or last
through months of usage?

LINK TO TESTER REVIEWS
    http://www.backpackgeartest.org/tester_reviews/w_pa_hiker

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is there a choice of LED color?  the color isn't specified in the test
call... and I know they come in several...

On 3/1/06, JimSabis@... <JimSabis@...> wrote:
> With a SureFire flashlight. Yup, we've got these guys on board at BGT to test
> their fine flashlights!!
>
> We will be testing the L1 Lumimax!
>
> From the surefire.com website:
>
> L1 LumaMax(r)
> Constructed of aerospace grade aluminum with a rugged military specification
> hard-anodized finish, and powered by a single lithium battery (10-year shelf
> life), the upgraded L1 LumaMax features a 3-watt LED (Light Emitting Diode), a
> Total Internal Reflection (TIR) focusing lens, and the extended runtime
> typical of LED flashlights. The L1's digitally controlled two-stage switch
allows
> the user to choose either a low-output beam for close-up work or a high-output
> beam for full power applications -- simply depress the tailcap switch halfway
> for the low beam, continue depressing to activate the high beam. Twist the
> tailcap to achieve constant light on either beam setting.
> The L1 also features digital current regulation circuitry to match the LED's
> current requirements with the battery's output to maintain a more consistent
> level of light output for the useable life of the batteries (as opposed to
> unregulated lights, which are subject to a steady decline in light intensity
> beginning shortly after activation).
> The L1 produces useable light for up to 90 hours on the low-beam setting;
> high-beam runtime exceeds four hours. Unlike many LED flashlight manufacturers
--
> who inflate the light output and usable runtimes of their LEDs -- SureFire
> provides realistic output and runtime specifications based on scientifically
> obtained measurements. Although any LED -- including those produced by
SureFire
> -- can continue to produce negligible light output for over 100 hours, the
> amount of "useful" light produced is typically of a shorter duration.
>
> Much more info is available at the website.
> Fine Print:
> - The one item newbie limit applies to this item.
> - The test call will end next Tuesday at midnite EST.
> -Applications and test plans will have to be sharp! I expect high interest
> and demand on this very desireable item. Research it, think how you would test
> it and get to work!
> Jim S.
>
> "Beware the barrenness of the busy life." - Socrates
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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In a message dated 3/1/2006 9:57:19 PM Eastern Standard Time,
davese@... writes:
is there a choice of LED color?  the color isn't specified in the test
call... and I know they come in several...
#######

Good catch, I meant to comment on that.

No color was specified. I would recommend first , second and third
preferences, as we do not know if there are any restrictions on the supplies
available
to us.

Jim S.

"I drank what??!!" - Socrates


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Sounds good - app to follow...(w/in a few days)

On 3/1/06, JimSabis@... <JimSabis@...> wrote:
> In a message dated 3/1/2006 9:57:19 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> davese@... writes:
> is there a choice of LED color?  the color isn't specified in the test
> call... and I know they come in several...
> #######
>
> Good catch, I meant to comment on that.
>
> No color was specified. I would recommend first , second and third
> preferences, as we do not know if there are any restrictions on the supplies
available
> to us.
>
> Jim S.
>
> "I drank what??!!" - Socrates
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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Application to test the Bridgedale X-Hale socks

Please accept my application in response to the test
call for the Bridgedale X-Hale.  I have read version
1202 of the BackpackGearTest Survival Guide, including
Chapter 5, and will comply with all requirements.  My
signed Tester Agreement is on file with BGT.

Reviewer Information:

Name: Ryan L. Christensen
Age:  41
Gender:  Male
Height:  6’ 2” (1.88 m)
Weight:  225 lb (102 kg)
Shoe Size: 11 US
Email address:  bigdawgryan@...
City, State, Country:  Idaho Falls, ID, U.S.A

Backpacking Background:

I began hiking, camping, backpacking at twelve, and
continued until 25.  After a long hiatus due in part
to a bad back, I resumed hiking and camping four years
ago.  I now share my love for these sports with my
teen-age boys.  The past several years, we have hiked
or camped nearly every month, year-round.  We vary our
experience: desert, forest, meadow, and mountain;
spring, summer, fall, and winter; sunshine, rain,
wind, or snow.  We began backpacking together last
summer.  I am a lightweight backpacker, but carry a
full array of necessary gear.

Field Information:

I believe I can put the Bridgedale X-Hale socks
through some “real” testing on such outings as a
camping trip to Little Wood Reservoir near Carey,
Idaho in March and a probable bicycling/camping trip
in Yellowstone National Park in April.  In addition to
hiking in Craters of the Moon National Monument and
other possible spring outings, there will be
climbing/camping on Caribou Mountain near the Grays
Lake National Wildlife Refuge in southeastern Idaho
and climbing/camping on the Middle Teton in western
Wyoming later in the test period.   In conjunction
with the possibilities listed above, there will be
camping trips with my sons’ scout troop and bicycle
rides that will easily allow me thoroughly test the
X-Hale

I live in Idaho Falls which is in southeastern Idaho
and is located at 43°29'30" North, 112°1'57" West
(43.491775, -112.032509) at an elevation of 4,700 ft
(1,433 m).

Below are the average weather conditions for Idaho
Falls and the surrounding southeastern Idaho area
during the test period.  However, at higher
elevations, temperatures may easily be 10 to 15
degrees cooler.

MONTH HIGH / LOW  TEMPERATURE PRECIPITATION
March 46 F / 26 F  (8 C / -3 C) 1.1 in (2.8 cm)
April 58 F / 44 F  (14 C / 7 C) 1.1 in (2.8 cm)
May  68 F / 40 F  (20 C / 4) 1.3 in (3.3 cm)
June 78 F / 47 F  (26 C / 8 C) 1 in (2.5 cm)
July 88 F / 54 F  (31 C / 12 C .5 in (1.3 cm)
August 86 F / 52 F  (30 C / 11 C) .6 in (1.5 cm)
September 76 F / 43 F  (24 C / 6 C) .7 in (1.8 cm)

Little Wood Reservoir, located in south-central Idaho,
is approximately 70 miles (113 km) northeast of Twin
Falls at latitude 43°29'30" and longitude 114°03'30"
NAD27.  It is 5,230 ft (1,622M) above sea level.  It
should provide great fishing in March.

Caribou Mountain is a 9,803 ft (2,988 m) peak in the
Caribou Range of southeastern Idaho.  The elevation
gain to the top is 1,763 ft (537 m).  This is a fun
climbing experience without the need to pay a large
price physically.  This area has abundant wildlife
including moose, deer, and sandhill cranes on the
Grays Lake marshes.

The Middle Teton, is south of the Grand Teton in
western Wyoming and rises to an elevation of 12,804 ft
(3,903 m).  What a beautiful hike and breathtaking
view this trip will offer.

Below are average weather conditions for the Grand
Teton National Park and surrounding area.  Again, at
higher elevations, temperatures can easily be 10 to 15
degrees cooler.

MONTH HIGH / LOW  TEMPERATURE PRECIPITATION
March 39 F / 12 F  (4 C / -11 C) 1.6 in (4.1 cm)
April 49 F / 22 F  (9.4 C / -6 C) 1.45 in (3.7 cm)
May  61 F / 31 F  (16 C / -1 C) 1.96 in (5 cm)
June 71 F / 37 F  (22 C / 3 C) 1.8 in (4.6 cm)
July 80 F / 41 F  (27 C / 4 C) 1.22 in (3.1 cm)
August 79 F / 40 F  (26 C / 4 C) 1.37 in (3.5 cm)
September 69 F / 32 F  (20 C / 0 C) 1.44 in (3.7 cm)

Proposed Test Plan:

I intend to wear the X-Hale socks with my Asolo FSN 95
GTX hiking boots, my Hi-Tec Rapid sandles, and my good
old tennis shoes.  I will wear them on outings, and I
will wear them to work on numerous occasions to see
how well these socks perform.  If selected for this
test, I would like to test the Large Onyx/Ruby socks.

The first order of business is fit & comfort of the
Bridgedale X-Hale socks.
1. I love the feel of merino wool socks. How
comfortable is the Isoflfil® and Merino Wool blend?
2. Do the socks bunch up in the toe area?
3. Do the socks stay in place, especially in the heal
area?
4. Do the socks stay up on the calf?

Second is function of the Bridgedale X-Hale socks.
1. How well does the 80-15-5 material blend wick
moisture away from the feet?
2. How warm do these socks keep my feet in cold
weather?  Are the sufficient alone, or do I need to
double up to keep my little piggies warm in cold
weather?
3. How effective is the 80-15-5 material blend at
preventing hot spots and blisters?

Third is durability of the Bridgedale X-Hale socks.
1. How well do the socks retain their color after
multiple launderings?
2. How well do the socks retain their shape after
multiple launderings?
3. How well do the nylon-reinforced areas resist
abrasion?
4. Does the material pill after multiple uses and
launderings?  I hate material that pills.

Finally, overall impression of the Bridgedale X-Hale
socks.
1. In the future, based on fit, comfort, performance,
and durability, would I be inclined to buy these socks
over other brands--at the suggested retail price—for
myself?

Previous Reports:

Owner Review:  Asolo Fusion 95 GTX Boots
	 http://tinyurl.com/djyoe

Owner Review:  MSR Whisperlite Backpacking Stove
	 http://tinyurl.com/dxqvy

Owner Review:  GSI Outdoors Hard Anodized 5 Piece
Cookset
	 http://tinyurl.com/becp9

  Completed Tests:

• None at this time

Current Tests:

• Duofold Varitherm Midweight Base Layer (Field Test
Stage)
		 Initial Report - http://tinyurl.com/9flce

• Leatherman e307x Folding Knife (Field Test Stage)
		 Initial Report - http://tinyurl.com/96hfo

• OR Prism Cap (awaiting receipt of cap)

Test Applications Currently Under Consideration:

• Klearwater Water Treatment


Ryan L. Christensen
E-mail: mailto:bigdawgryan@...

"Excellence is not an act, but a habit."  Aristotle

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Application to test the Snot Spot

Personal Information:
Name: Kathryn Doiron
Age: 29
Gender: Female
Height: 1.7 m (5' 8")
Weight: 68 kg (150 lb)
Email: kdoiron 'at' gmail 'dot' com
Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada

Brief Background: I started backpacking and hiking seriously almost
four years ago. Most of my miles have been logged in New Hampshire and
Massachusetts. I have recently finished 1200+ miles of the Appalachian
trail.  My style is to be as light as possible while not spending a
fortune. My pack weight tends to hover around 30lbs.  I have recently starting
to get into winter hiking and snowshoeing.


Test Plan:
If selected to test Snot Spot, I would use it on all camping and
hiking  trips over the course of the test period.  I have at least one
camping trip per month planned from now until the end of summer with
twice monthly day hikes planned come spring.  I plan on wearing the
Snot Spot on trips which will include an overnight on top of Mt.
Washington, at 6000ft, and a trek in the 100 mile wilderness. Expected
temperatures can be anywhere from below freezing to 15 C (60 F)
depending on season and elevation.  I also plan on wearing the Snot
Spot on my gloves for every day wear to and from work.

I am interesting in testing the Snot Spot as I do in fact seem to be
allergic to the great outdoors.  I have a runny nose that I am
constantly wiping at and I very much dislike taking my hand out of a
warm glove to reach for a bandana.  If selected for this test, I would
be interested in looking at the following points:  How soft will the
material be against the nose, especially after repeated uses.  Will
there appear to be any build up of liquid or will the material be able
to absorb it well.  How washable is the material, either with snow as
mentioned or in the wash.  If washed with snow, how soon after a snow
wash is the material dry enough for use.  How comfortable will the
Snot Spot be over a pair of gloves, and with pole straps.  Will the
Snot Spot fit equally well over large bulky gloves versus thinner
spring gloves.  Will it fit equally well over both gloves and mittens.
  Will wearing the Snot Spot interfer with taking off and putting on of
gloves.  As in, will I have to remove the Snot Spot in order to pull
on gloves.  Will shrinkage occur when in the wash, or the dryer.  How
easy is the Snot Spot to put on with one hand.


I welcome the opportunity to test the Snot Spot.  I will look into all
the above mentioned points as well as overall comfort and ease of use
as well as any novel uses.  As in, will it be comfortable to wear on
bare hands.


Previously Written Reports:
Owner Review - MSR WhisperLite Internationale 600 Stove - September 17, 2004
Owner Review - REI Elements Rain Jacket - October 1, 2004

Tests Completed:
Anti Gravity Mapdana #4

Currently Testing:
Atsko Sno-Seal - Long Term Report April 11
Yaktrax Pro - Arrived

Colleen and all,

Here's my (tardy) report. Thank you for your patience!

Colleen, for some reason my file won't upload, so I'm going to post
over on BGTWeb to try to figure out why.

Thank you,

Lynne


Kahtoola Traction System (KTS) Steel
Field Report


   by Lynne Durham
   February 28, 2006

REVIEWER BIO
         Name        Lynne Durham
         Gender        Female
         Height        5' 10" (1.78 m)
         Weight        155 lb (69 kg)
         Age        44

         Email        lynnedurham AT yahoo DOT com
         Location        Benton Harbor, Michigan USA

BACKPACKING EXPERIENCE  I have hiked and car camped all of my life,
mostly in the relative flatlands of the lower and upper peninsulas of
Michigan, but also in areas east of the Continental Divide, such as
South Dakota, New England, Kentucky, Florida, Ohio, Indiana, and more.
I have been backpacking since 2002.  I keep my pack weight to 25% of
bodyweight. However, I am always trying to lighten my load further to
enhance my comfort and enjoyment as I like to hike big mileage.

   Traction Equipment Experience
   I also put in extensive miles trail running and road running, and I
do not let winter keep me in the house. In winter, I usually end up
strapping on the snowshoes. I've tried a different traction system in
the past without satisfactory results. I have never used technical
crampons.


NAVIGATE THIS REPORT
         Reviewer Bio        For Further Testing

         Product Information        This is Cool
         Field Conditions        This Could Be Improved
        Field Observations



PRODUCT INFORMATION
         MANUFACTURER        Kahtoola, Inc.
         WEB SITE        http://www.kahtoola.com
         MSRP
                 USD129.00

         MATERIAL
                 4130 Chromoly Steel

         CLAIMED WEIGHT PER PAIR
                 1 lb 7 oz (662 g)

         ACTUAL WEIGHT PER PAIR
                 1 lb 7 oz (662 g)

         SIZE TESTED
                 One size fits most

         SIZE RANGE (According to manufacturer)
                 US Men's 4-14/US Women's 5+

         DIMENSIONS, COLLAPSED (for packing)
                 8  x 3 x 2 in (20 x 8 x 5 cm)

         OPTIONAL STOW SACK SIZE
                 10 x 8 in (25 x 20 cm)


OTHER PRODUCT INFORMATION
US Patent #6,742,286
CE Certified EN893 standards   The manufacturer states that these are
for non-technical use, including hiking, backpacking, glacier travel,
adventure racing and peak bagging in icy and snow-packed conditions.

   More information can be found in my Initial Report.

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FIELD CONDITIONS  This has been an exceptionally difficult time to be
testing ice devices in Michigan! We experienced record high
temperatures for a good portion of the test period. I was, however,
able to get in 46 miles on the Kahtoolas during the field testing
phase. During the testing period, the Kahtoola Traction System was
used:

Trail running at a local nature preserve, on the North Country Trail
and a local rail trail
Dayhiking on the North Country Trail  The rail trail is, of course,
flat. The parts of the North Country Trail that I frequented range
from flat to rolling to hilly (well, hilly for Michigan!). The local
nature preserve meanders along the bottomlands of the Paw Paw river,
up to its ridge, and through open meadows, and offers minor short,
steep hills, and slick ice through its wetlands.

  Unfortunately, my backpacking trips during the test period fell
during extremely mild weather. However, conditions are ripe for using
them during my 6-night extravaganza in Michigan's Upper Peninsula next
week. I'll be bringing snowshoes, but I plan on taking the Kahtoolas,
too, for testing purposes.

   The heaviest load I carried while testing the KTS was approximately 20 pounds.

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  FIELD OBSERVATIONS  During the testing period, the Kahtoola Traction
System has been used on the boots that I usually use for snowshoeing
and a pair of Vasque Velocity trail runners. In each case, I had no
difficulty fitting the KTS to my footwear.

  Trail Running
  Initially, I was concerned that the long teeth on the KTS would cause
me to feel unstable. I quickly discovered that was not the case.

The first time I ran in the KTS, I started off tentatively, adjusting
my stride to compensate for my fear of instability. I quickly
discovered, however, that I could stride quite naturally without
problems. I was able to run confidently in the Kahtoola Traction
System. The KTS bit into ice and icy snow firmly and allowed me to
move forward confidently.

  I must say the extra weight on my feet added to my workout, but not
unduly so. To me, winter is about working harder. Whether its
snowshoeing, post-holing in boots or wearing crampons, one must expect
an added workload in winter.

  Dayhiking
  One of the questions I put forth in my test plan was weather or not I
could move from loose snow to icy conditions wearing the KTS without
removing them. I did so easily. But on one cold morning, I encountered
some trouble with icy/snowy build-up in the teeth. Nothing that
greatly added to the weight on my feet, but enough that I kept wanting
to knock it off.

  After use, I've encountered no problems removing the KTS. On the day
that ice built up in the teeth, the buckle was pretty crusted with
ice, too. However, I had no problem opening it.

  Convenience on the trail
  I was pleasantly surprised that once I had the KTS properly adjusted,
I had no need to constantly adjust them on the trail. I experienced no
loosening while in use. Each time I stopped, I checked the straps: the
webbing straps are long and kind of fold over themselves and tuck
away. I was constantly worried that they would come loose. They never
loosened the fit, but whenever I stopped I checked to make sure they
were still tucked securly away. Once the test is over, I'll trim them
so I'm not always worrying about them.

  Use and Care
  I've been relatively hands off on caring for the KTS. On the trail, I
wipe the KTS off with my bandana before stowing them in their stuff
sack. Twice at home, I've rinsed them with cool water and dried
thoroughly. They still look fabulous.

  Durability
  Although the weather has not cooperated and offered me the extensive
usage opportunities that I had expected, I've still put the KTS
through some tough situations. The webbing straps and plastic buckles
are still in perfect condition and there are no signs of wear on the
teeth at this point.

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FOR FURTHER TESTING During the final phase, the KTS will see use for
at least 7 days during which I know I will encounter winter
conditions. I hope mother nature delivers us a couple of more winter
storms so that I can put them through even more extensive testing.
Questions that I'd still like to address:

How quickly do the teeth dull?
Does the webbing hold up? Will I encounter any fraying?
Something I'd like to try: If I spray the teeth with nonstick cooking
spray, does that prevent the ice build-up? It works on the inside of
my home deep freezer for preventing frost build-up.  Back to top

THIS IS COOL
The collapsible heel means these babies pack down very small
Extender Bar makes sizing a breeze

THIS COULD BE IMPROVED
Nothing yet discovered
I know they need to offer long straps to accommodate a lot of boots
sizes, but I wonder if there could be a better system for tucking the
straps away
   Thank you to Kahtoola and BackpackGearTest.org for the chance to
test the Kahtoola Traction System crampons.

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--
Lynne Durham
http://lynnedurham.typepad.com
Benton Harbor, Michigan USA

Application to test the Bridgedale X-Hale socks

Please accept my application in response to the test
call for the Bridgedale X-Hale.  I have read version
1202 of the BackpackGearTest Survival Guide, including
Chapter 5, and will comply with all requirements.  My
signed Tester Agreement is on file with BGT.

Reviewer Information:

Name: Ryan L. Christensen
Age:  41
Gender:  Male
Height:  6’ 2” (1.88 m)
Weight:  225 lb (102 kg)
Shoe Size: 11 US
Email address:  bigdawgryan@...
City, State, Country:  Idaho Falls, ID, U.S.A

Backpacking Background:

I began hiking, camping, backpacking at twelve, and
continued until 25.  After a long hiatus due in part
to a bad back, I resumed hiking and camping four years
ago.  I now share my love for these sports with my
teen-age boys.  The past several years, we have hiked
or camped nearly every month, year-round.  We vary our
experience: desert, forest, meadow, and mountain;
spring, summer, fall, and winter; sunshine, rain,
wind, or snow.  We began backpacking together last
summer.  I am a lightweight backpacker, but carry a
full array of necessary gear.

Field Information:

I believe I can put the Bridgedale X-Hale socks
through some “real” testing on such outings as a
camping trip to Little Wood Reservoir near Carey,
Idaho in March and a probable bicycling/camping trip
in Yellowstone National Park in April.  In addition to
hiking in Craters of the Moon National Monument and
other possible spring outings, there will be
climbing/camping on Caribou Mountain near the Grays
Lake National Wildlife Refuge in southeastern Idaho
and climbing/camping on the Middle Teton in western
Wyoming later in the test period.   In conjunction
with the possibilities listed above, there will be
camping trips with my sons’ scout troop and bicycle
rides that will easily allow me thoroughly test the
X-Hale

I live in Idaho Falls which is in southeastern Idaho
and is located at 43°29'30" North, 112°1'57" West
(43.491775, -112.032509) at an elevation of 4,700 ft
(1,433 m).

Below are the average weather conditions for Idaho
Falls and the surrounding southeastern Idaho area
during the test period.  However, at higher
elevations, temperatures may easily be 10 to 15
degrees cooler.

MONTH HIGH / LOW  TEMPERATURE PRECIPITATION
March 46 F / 26 F  (8 C / -3 C) 1.1 in (2.8 cm)
April 58 F / 44 F  (14 C / 7 C) 1.1 in (2.8 cm)
May  68 F / 40 F  (20 C / 4) 1.3 in (3.3 cm)
June 78 F / 47 F  (26 C / 8 C) 1 in (2.5 cm)
July 88 F / 54 F  (31 C / 12 C .5 in (1.3 cm)
August 86 F / 52 F  (30 C / 11 C) .6 in (1.5 cm)
September 76 F / 43 F  (24 C / 6 C) .7 in (1.8 cm)

Little Wood Reservoir, located in south-central Idaho,
is approximately 70 miles (113 km) northeast of Twin
Falls at latitude 43°29'30" and longitude 114°03'30"
NAD27.  It is 5,230 ft (1,622M) above sea level.  It
should provide great fishing in March.

Caribou Mountain is a 9,803 ft (2,988 m) peak in the
Caribou Range of southeastern Idaho.  The elevation
gain to the top is 1,763 ft (537 m).  This is a fun
climbing experience without the need to pay a large
price physically.  This area has abundant wildlife
including moose, deer, and sandhill cranes on the
Grays Lake marshes.

The Middle Teton, is south of the Grand Teton in
western Wyoming and rises to an elevation of 12,804 ft
(3,903 m).  What a beautiful hike and breathtaking
view this trip will offer.

Below are average weather conditions for the Grand
Teton National Park and surrounding area.  Again, at
higher elevations, temperatures can easily be 10 to 15
degrees cooler.

MONTH HIGH / LOW  TEMPERATURE PRECIPITATION
March 39 F / 12 F  (4 C / -11 C) 1.6 in (4.1 cm)
April 49 F / 22 F  (9.4 C / -6 C) 1.45 in (3.7 cm)
May  61 F / 31 F  (16 C / -1 C) 1.96 in (5 cm)
June 71 F / 37 F  (22 C / 3 C) 1.8 in (4.6 cm)
July 80 F / 41 F  (27 C / 4 C) 1.22 in (3.1 cm)
August 79 F / 40 F  (26 C / 4 C) 1.37 in (3.5 cm)
September 69 F / 32 F  (20 C / 0 C) 1.44 in (3.7 cm)

Proposed Test Plan:

I intend to wear the X-Hale socks with my Asolo FSN 95
GTX hiking boots, my Hi-Tec Rapid sandles, and my good
old tennis shoes.  I will wear them on outings and I
will wear them to work on numerous occasions to see
how well they perform.  If selected for this test, I
would like to test the Large Onyx/Ruby socks.

The first order of business is fit & comfort of the
Bridgedale X-Hale socks.
1. I love the feel of merino wool socks. How
comfortable is the Isoflfil® and Merino Wool blend?
2. Do the socks bunch up in the toe area?
3. Do the socks stay in place, especially in the heal
area?
4. Do the socks stay up on the ankle?

Second is function of the Bridgedale X-Hale socks.
1. How well does the material blend wick moisture away
from the feet?
2. How How effective is the material blend at
preventing hot spots and blisters?

Third is durability of the Bridgedale X-Hale socks.
1. How well do the socks retain their color after
multiple launderings?
2. How well do the socks retain their shape after
multiple launderings?
3. How well do the nylon-reinforced areas resist
abrasion?
4. Does the material pill after multiple uses and
launderings?  I hate material that pills.

Finally, overall impression of the Bridgedale X-Hale
socks.
1. In the future, based on fit, comfort, performance,
and durability, would I be inclined to buy these socks
over other brands--at the suggested retail price—for
myself?

Thanks to Bridgedale and BGT for considering me to
test the X-Hale socks.

Previous Reports:

Owner Review:  Asolo Fusion 95 GTX Boots
	 http://tinyurl.com/djyoe

Owner Review:  MSR Whisperlite Backpacking Stove
	 http://tinyurl.com/dxqvy

Owner Review:  GSI Outdoors Hard Anodized 5 Piece
Cookset
	 http://tinyurl.com/becp9

  Completed Tests:

• None at this time

Current Tests:

• Duofold Varitherm Midweight Base Layer (Field Test
Stage)
		 Initial Report - http://tinyurl.com/9flce

• Leatherman e307x Folding Knife (Field Test Stage)
		 Initial Report - http://tinyurl.com/96hfo

• OR Prism Cap (awaiting receipt of cap)

Test Applications Currently Under Consideration:

• Klearwater Water Treatment


Ryan L. Christensen
E-mail: mailto:bigdawgryan@...

"Excellence is not an act, but a habit."  Aristotle

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BIP after some interesting testing weather - around freezing instead of 10
degrees as
predicted and 8 inches of snow - wet!
Carol

Application to Test the Snot Spot

Please accept my application to test the Snot Spot.  I do understand
that this item does not count toward the newbie one item limit. If
selected I would like to test the style for use with mittens.

I have read and have a full understanding of Chapter 5 in the
BackPackGearTest Survival Guide, version 1202. I will follow all the
instructions presented and fulfill all the requirements.

Reviewer Information

Name:  Jennifer Koles
Age:  31
Gender:  Female
Height:  5 ft 5 in  (1.65 m)
Weight: 140 lb (64 kg)
Email address: jennksnowy@...
City, State, and Country:  Salt Lake City, Utah, United States


Backpacking Background

I started taking overnight backpacking trips this past summer in the
Uinta Mountain Range in Utah. I already owned some backpacking gear
that I had purchased over the past few years. Although I enjoyed my
backpacking experience this summer, I found myself taking entirely
too much gear. I am finding out slowly how to minimize my needs and
not require extra luxuries. My previous outdoor experiences consisted
of 4 wheel-drive camping in primitive areas and day hiking. I plan to
take more trips, increase my duration, and reduce my pack weight from
45 lb (20.4 kg).

Other Interests
I enjoy day hiking trips, mountain biking, canyoneering, and rock
climbing in the local Wasatch Mountain Range. I also participate in
road cycling locally in Salt Lake City and statewide.
During the winter months I participate in snowshoeing, hiking,
backcountry snowboarding, and x-country skiing.

Field Information
I plan to test the Snot Spot primarily in the state of Utah. The
tests would occur in the Wasatch and Uinta Mountain Ranges and in the
southern portion of the state.  Some testing will occur in the states
of Montana and Wyoming.

I went hiking and snowboarding last weekend and of course my nose
started to run.  I was able to find a tissue but after a few uses it
becomes useless.  So then I resorted to using my sleeve.  Frequently
I find myself in this situation.   I saw the Snot Spot in a test call
and the situation from this weekend mage me think, what I great idea.
I thought about how I could utilize this item when riding my bike.  I
find it difficult to store and access tissues in my jersey pocket.

Testing Locations
This item would be primarily tested in the mountainous region of
northern Utah.  Most elevation ranges in the Utah Wasatch and Uinta
Mountain Ranges are between 9,000-10,000 ft (2700-3000 m).  The
average daytime temperature in these mountain ranges during the
winter months is 25 F (-4 C). The average amount of snowfall is 500
in (13 m) in the Wasatch Mountain Range.  This portion of the testing
during the winter months would need to be completed with snowshoes,
the Get-A-Grip traction device, and x-country skis.

On trips of a longer duration I plan to complete 2-3 day backpacking
trips in the Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument and the San
Rafael Swell area of Utah.  The elevations in these geographical
areas range from 4000-8000 ft (1200-2400 m).  These areas are
considered a high desert, and consist of rugged mountainous terrain,
slot canyons, and are less rugged in the valley areas.  The
temperatures during the winter months average approximately 40 F (4
C).  The area is arid with only 4-6 in (0.10 m) of precipitation a
year.   This portion of the testing will involve hiking, some
canyoneering, and scrambling.

I am planning on completing the Paria River trail in the month of
March of 2006.  This would consist of at least a three night
backpacking trip.  The Snot Spot would come in handy during the
evening hours.  The desert can become chilly in the evenings.

During the winter and spring months I frequently overnight camp in
the Needles District of Canyonlands National Park.  I would be in
this location on 2-3 night backpacking trips. The climate in this
area is dry during the winter months and the temperatures average 40
F (4 C) during the day. The elevation in this area is generally 5000
ft (1500 m) with ranges of a few hundred feet.

During the month of July I am planning a climbing /backpacking trip
to the Grand Teton in Wyoming.  The elevation at the summit is 3770
feet (4198 m).  The temperatures vary significantly due to the
elevation gain.  The average temperatures in July are 40 F (4 C) to
76 F (24C) depending on the elevation level.

In early April of 2006 I am participating in a cycling tour in
Yellowstone National Park.  The tour starts in West Yellowstone,
Montana (elevation of 6667 ft (2000 m)) and ends at the Grand Canyon
of the Yellowstone (elevation of 8850 ft (2700 m)). The average
daytime temperature in the park in April is 35-40 F (1.67-4 C).  The
temperatures during the night are below freezing. The park averages
150-400 in (4-10m) of snowfall per year. Frequently while riding my
bike my nose begins to run resulting in me using my gloves to take
care of the situation.

Test Plans
Activities: I would test the item performing many outdoor activities
(hiking, camping, snowshoeing, snowboarding, skiing, and riding my
bike).

Fit:  I would evaluate how the item fits on my mitten.  Can I use the
mitten style on my gloves?  Is the item easily placed and removed on
my mitten and glove?  Does the Snot Spot fall off my mitten and
glove?  Does the item stretch out of shape after multiple uses?

Comfort: Is the Snot Spot soft as indicated by the manufacturer? Does
it irritate my nose?  Does my nose become red from use?  Does it
interferer with hiking poles or snowboard binding straps?  Does it
interfere with my grip on my handlebars while riding my bike?

Purpose:  Does it serve its purpose effectively?  Is the fleece
material moisture resistant? Does it work for sweat?

Care:  Can I easily clean it in the outdoors?  How long does it take
to dry?  Does the fleece pill after washing?  Does it shrink?  Does
the nose mucus absorb or does it need to be scraped off?

Previously Written Reports
Owner Reviews:
Black Diamond Ion Headlamp (October 14,2005)
http://www.backpackgeartest.org/reviews/Lighting/Headlamps -
LED/Black Diamond Ion/Owner Review by Jennifer Koles/

Kelty Ion Hydration Pack (October 24, 2005)
http://www.backpackgeartest.org/reviews/Packs/Frameless Backpacks and
Day Packs/Kelty Ion Hydration Pack/Owner Review by Jennifer Koles/

MSR Alpine Cookware Set (January 23, 2006)
http://www.backpackgeartest.org/reviews/Cook Gear/Cook Sets/MSR
Alpine Cookware set/Owner Review by Jennifer Koles/Owner Review by
Jennifer Koles/

Completed Tests:  None at this time.

Currently Testing Other Items:
Sure Foot Get-A-Grip Advanced
Initial Report (January 23, 2006)
http://www.backpackgeartest.org/reviews/Snow Gear/Traction Aids/Sure
Foot Get-A-Grip Advanced/Jennifer Koles/Initial Report/

McNett Tenacious Tape
I have not received this item.

Test Applications Completed:  Klearwater Water Treatment.


Thank you for your consideration in testing the Snot Spot.  I
understand that I am in newbie status and if selected for this test I
would not have difficulty testing the Snot Spot with my other items.

Jennifer Koles