Monday November 6 1:55 PM ET The Rev. Ted Haggard has been fired amid allegations of gay sex and drug use, but the evangelical leader can still be seen at the...
hi, if anyone is interested, you can visit the following, containing a debate between a Christian and I. http://fredericknegapatan.multiply.com/journal/item/9 ...
(Note from Pinoy Bible Debunkers) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pinoybibledebunkers/ Kudos to both Mr. JOMA and Mr. Misteriffic from bringing us back to the...
OK guys, let's get a little serious here. I see that there are already 40+ members in this group, so I would like to encourage everyone to start on some...
Okay, I guess there aren't many Atheists here who would like to offer their arguments first. That's fine, no biggie. What I'll do is give a primer for...
I have send M_Y questions to a forum in which I am a member, since sa nakikita ko lang masyado kayong tahimik. Anyway, you can read their response here (buti...
Hi John, I checked out the link you gave. You seem to be in a decent group of minds there. I see a few responses that I have come to expect. However, Salt...
Proponents of SM here are still shy at this point? Bro. Joma? Anyone? Okay, perhaps I can start (again) and give a primer on SM this time. Who here loves...
Ok!Ok!, the setback is that we really don't have a consensus of what side of the issue are each of us into. Heck! We never really gave an importance on these...
Hi John, Thank you for your indulgence. That was a very insightful thought you gave us. It is so refreshing to see Atheists with an open mind. I know of a lot...
Hello!First of all, I just want to thank the hosts of this e-group for allowing me as one of their members. I'm new here and I'm interested in the thread. ... ...
Hi Albert, That's a fine suggestion. However, we have purposely tried to stay away from that route. If we start putting definitions on things as enigmatic as...
Because, in my view, the discussion ultimately boils down to whether morality is subjective or objective. To cut things short, is it ok if let define morality...
Yes, Albert, it takes us to the question whether morality is subjective or objective. But that is not the ultimate stage for this. We have been discussing the...
Ok. Since, perhaps within ourselves, at least in this e-group, we seem to understand what morality is, I am now ready to share my side that I believe that...
A pleasant day fellas. In that case, maybe we have to sort out our differences first and by then maybe we could really start. Maybe the "four way test" could...
Hi Guys, I think you may or may not realize this already. But you guys, as Atheists, have already started sharing or suggesting your position. To suggest that...
Let me proceed by asserting that morality as ultimately subjective in its nature is more plausible than morality as objective. It is the case because the...
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Actually, I think morality as a matter of taste is indicative of subjectivism. In the argument I presented on "Papaitan", here goes. My wife loves this food...
Is morality something like a cake? Well, when a person bake a cake...let say a carrot cake. The ingrediences are there. Let say sugar, flour, baking powder,...
I would like to welcome our newest member and specially Mr. Albert Nicholas for joining our discussion. The survival of this group depends on the member's...
i've been reading your posts and its giving me more questions than answers. morality, Subjective, Objective. do you have any standards for morality?? i dont...
When I say that morality is subjective, it just means that the origin of morality ultimately comes from human, human as having a self-the subject to an...
John, I fear that you're implying that morality has a "pre-existent" nature in the universe in which it is only waiting for the humans to hit the right...
... origin of morality ultimately comes from human, human as having a self-the subject to an object/s. In these objects, the subject assigns values into them....
Just wondering...why do we have to "fear" the implication of morality having a "pre-existent" nature? Anyway, I guess we can discuss about the God-talk when we...
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No. It is not a moot point to fear about John's possible implication of morality as having a "pre-existent" nature. My point here is that since to my knowledge...
Thanks for spending time with my posting. Later, i'll address this reply. I'm suffering from mild migraine. However, I'll have to say that mostly of your...
