Apocalypse Now?

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Apocalypse Now?

Desolation: Wood, fishing equipment and other debris floats on a river in Ofunato
In Northern Japan it’s definitely apocalypse now!

The ultimate disaster scenario would see the Tokyo region heavily contaminated by radioactivity following an explosion and radioactive fallout at the Fukushima plant. Such a situation would lead to the creation of an exclusion zone affecting thirty million inhabitants of a city that is at the heart of the flow of global basic necessities. Tokyo is one of the world’s major financial centers, one of the three management hubs of the foreign exchange markets (along with London and New York) and the Japanese economy supplies a quantity of electronic components vital to the global economy.

This morning on ABC News we read that a nuclear expert has warned that it might be 100 years before melting fuel rods can be safely removed from Japan's Fukushima nuclear plant.“As the water leaks out, you keep on pouring water in, so this leak will go on forever,” said Dr. John Price, a former member of the Safety Policy Unit at the UK's National Nuclear Corporation. “The final thing is that the reactors will have to be closed and the fuel removed, and that is 50 to 100 years away.”

Levels of the radioactive isotope iodine 131 have continued to rise, testing at 4,385 times the statutory limit on March 31st, nearly four times higher than on Sunday, March27th,said Hidehiko Nishiyama, deputy director general of Japan’s Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency.

We are already well down the path of a historically unprecedented humanitarian disaster with a resultant disruption of economic, global, financial and monetary markets. In Japan conservative estimates of the local costs of the disaster already top 300 billion and with manufacturing bottlenecks developing all over the world from the lack of Japanese parts the international cost will soar.

The triple disaster that has just hit Japan (earthquake, tsunami and nuclear accident) is a crucial event that will accelerate and intensify the global systemic crisis. The scale of destruction and the severity of the disaster at the nuclear power plantare providing shocks that the current international system will not be able to withstand for long.

Chris Martenson writes “For decades, the world has been running its own nuclear-style reaction, only in the currency and debt markets, where exponentially-accelerating piles of debt and money have spun about faster and faster in a gigantic, complex, coordinated reaction, the core of which is, and always has been, the United States. At the very center of this ungainly money reactor is the main fuel pile itself, the U.S. Treasury market. With any interruption to smooth flow of money through this pile, it will immediately become unstable.”

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The explosion of government debt in the world will trigger the next crisis very soon and this will make it even more difficult for countries, governments and people to deal with the nuclear disaster spreading around the northern hemisphere. Radiation clouds can only be considered disastrous.

The amount of sovereign debt in the world, approximately $35 trillion, is quickly going up to even more stratospheric levels. And the United States Treasury notes are right in the center of this back breaking bubble of credit and debt. When it all goes pop it will make the $3 trillion subprime mortgage crisis seem minor in comparison. When it goes pop, like all bubbles eventually do, it will come exactly at the wrong time for now more than ever we need all our wits to deal with other dire problems.

Martenson sees things like this:

Stage 1: The world watches, riveted, as Japan suffers a tragic and horrible earthquake and tsunami, but as horrifying as these are, they are localized phenomenon affecting a relatively small percentage of the country. The real trouble lurks within damaged nuclear plants, which are now ruined and will never again produce electricity for Japan, creating instant shortages that will take years to remedy. Worse, a dangerous plume of radioactivity is carried south by winds. Tokyo partially empties and shuts down for all practical purposes.

Stage 2: The abrupt slowdown of the world’s third largest economy alters the smooth flow of cash around the globe, and even causes reversals of some other long-standing flows. Chaotic eddies emerge in a decades-old pattern of ever-increasing flows of money into and out of the money centers, and various carry-trade and other interest-rate-sensitive strategies blow up. Manufacturing in Japan screeches to a halt, disrupting just-in-time manufacturing strategies both internally and across the globe.

Stage 3: In order to fund the rebuilding effort, Japan has to buy a lot of items from foreign suppliers at the same time that its exports plunge precipitously. At first Japan simply does not participate in US Treasury auctions, leading to a shortage of buyers. But eventually Japan has to sell some of its vast hoard of US bonds in order to pay for external items needed for its reconstruction. Further, insurance companies, huge holders of US bonds, face stiff liability claims in the wake of the worst natural disaster to hit a heavily industrialized center and are forced to redeem enormous amounts of Treasury paper. US Treasury yields begin to climb.

Stage 4: Continuing unrest in the MENA region serves to keep oil elevated and local funding needs high, while Europe’s weaker players (the PIIGS) continue to slip under the waves. Money continues to ebb away from the U.S. Treasury market. Forced by circumstance, the Federal Reserve reverses its linguistic course and opens the monetary floodgates once again. There’s nothing like a crisis to justify more money printing, especially to a one-trick pony (the Fed) that only knows how to stamp its hoof on the ‘print’ button.

Stage 5: An increasingly chaotic monetary and fiscal situation spills over into the derivatives arena, creating a number of financial accidents. Stressed governments find themselves in more of an arguing mood than a pull-together-and-sing-Kumbaya mood, and agreements are hard to come by. Banks begin to fail again, global trade falls off, unrest continues to build, and then it happens—a currency crisis.

Stage 6: Everything changes. Faster than you think.

Washington and many other first world governments have become tossed about by events, lacking strategy, will power, and incapable of intelligent and corrective action.We cannot expect much from Washington or any other global government in the face of recent nuclear events in Japan.

Japan's Prime Minister Naoto Kan said on Friday he was ready for a long battle to bring the Fukushima nuclear plant under control. “I am prepared for a long-term battle over the Fukushima nuclear plant and to win this battle,” he said. “We cannot say that the plant has been sufficiently stabilized. But we are preparing for all kinds of situations and I am convinced that the plant can be stabilized. We cannot say at this stage by when this will happen, but we are trying our best.”

I know of no reason to think or even bet one dollar on Japan’s Prime Minister, who is after all but a simple politician. He is convinced that the plant and of course their economy and the world can be stabilized but is he someone we should listen to and take comfort from?

“The game of extend and pretend at the expense of the American working middle class is growing old. When this game is over, Wall Street will be looking for another bailout. The American people will not fall for the lies again. Wall Street’s oppression reeks of greed and disgrace. They are liars and thieves. They have pillaged and stolen all that was left to steal. I will be surprised if they get out alive,” writes The Burning Platform.

We all have reason to fear knowing that politicians and these kinds of people are literally running the world. When it comes to dealing with apocalyptic situations they are way over their heads and will go running to their underground shelters and leave us scrambling, but not before they fight even more wars than they are already fighting.

Dr. Mark Allan Sircus, Ac., OMD, DM (P)
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Doctor of Oriental and Pastoral Medicine
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#4564

From: "PARC" <AshevillePARC@...>
Date: Tue Apr 5, 2011 7:29 pm
Subject: Land Use Workshop

AshevillePARC@...

Tuesday, April 5th, 2011

You are cordially invited to attend
Equitable Solutions: A Better Way To Resolve
Land Use & Environmental Disputes
a workshop co-sponsored by Mountain Voices Alliance

and Asheville PARC

Wednesday, April 20, from 9 am - noon

United Way 50 South French Broad Ave. downtown Asheville

Presented by Richard Klein
Community & Environmental Defense Services, Owings Mills, MD

An Equitable Solution is one which fully resolves citizen concerns while allowing applicants to achieve most of their goals. When combined with other approaches refined by CEDS, such as Support Decision-Makers First and Smart Legal Action, the Equitable Solutions approach triples the likelihood of citizens resolving development-related concerns.

In addition, Equitable Solutions minimizes those lose-lose situations where public officials are asked to chose between what is legally right and that which is popular. Finally, the approach expands the base of public support for innovative policies that yield more growth benefits while enhancing quality of life for both current and future residents.

The event will benefit non-profits, city & county planners and staff, elected officials, realtors, builders - both green and traditional, land use attorneys, and other stakeholders.

In addition to the morning workshop, there will also be an evening session planned for interested community members.
Non-profits are welcome to invite their members and volunteers to this session.

Evening Session

Wednesday, April 20 - 6:30-8:30 pm
Jubilee! Garden Room - 101 Patton Ave. downtown Asheville

PLEASE NOTE: There is no charge for the workshops, but donations are welcome and appreciated. However, in order to plan efficiently, we will need an RSVP of how many will be attending for the morning session. Refreshments will be served.

Please reply by Wednesday, April 13 to info@... or 828-255-8537.
Let us know the organization or group you are with and how many will be coming.

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#4565

From: "PARC" <AshevillePARC@...>
Date: Wed Apr 6, 2011 4:19 pm
Subject: No Momentum

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Wednesday, April 6, 2011

NO MOMENTUM

The Health Adventure is bankrupt. Eight million dollars in donations has been wasted. One and a half million dollars of it was taxpayers’ money.

Two years ago, neighbors were stunned to see the beautiful trees along Broadway clear cut to build a tourist attraction called Momentum. Ten acres of beautiful trees were lost and what was left was a mud hole surrounded by an ugly chain-link fence.

Neighbors were continually misled about the plans (“We’re environmentalists--we’ll leave most of the large trees.”) and the prospects for completion (“Construction will start in winter!”)

And now comes word that the mud hole will remain indefinitely and then the property will be sold. What’s next? A shopping center? Condominiums?

City Council did not create this mess, but they can take the lead in cleaning it up. The council can help in many ways:

• City Council can acquire the land for a park. The Broadway area is developing rapidly--GreenLife, the Pioneer Building--and if green areas are not saved, there won’t be any.

• Council can zone the land to prevent the worse uses. They just gave the developers permission to build 15 and 25 story buildings downtown without going to Council. Surely this abused parcel can be spared for greenery.

• Council can enforce contractual obligations made by the Health Adventure to the City concerning greenway development.

• We need a tree ordinance which requires justification for the removal of large trees and encourages developers to remove as few trees as possible when building.

• Council could make sure that this is the last time developers clearcut an area and then leave an ugly mess by requiring performance bonds before granting building permits. A performance bond is issued by an insurance company and would pay to restore the site if the development is not completed.

You can help too. Write to City Council and ask for their leadership in making lemonade out of this lemon.

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And it wouldn't hurt to send that letter to the Asheville Citizen-Times letters@... or to the Mountain Xpress letters@...

Click here for articles and documents about Momentum.

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#4566

From: "Paul Gallimore" <paul@...>
Date: Thu Apr 7, 2011 1:20 pm
Subject: A-CT -- Activists: Nuclear waste danger for Asheville area

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Dear Friends,

Please see Asheville Citizen-Times article, Activists: Nuclear waste danger for Asheville area posted below.

The one key point the reporter missed was the opportunity for citizen action.

Citizens across the country can write to BRC@... and state their recommendations for the future disposition of high level nuclear waste. All citizen comments will be published on their website, BRC.GOV.

The environmental community is recommending that Hardened On-Site Storage (HOSS) of the waste be the principal method utilized at each reactor site.

HOSS consists of shrouding the high level waste with multiple layers of steel and concrete, and placing earth berms around the dry cask storage so that no shoulder-fired missiles could be launched at the stored radioactive material.

The on-site storage of this nuclear waste eliminates the multiple risks of transport, the danger and uncertainty of reprocessing (where plutonium is extracted), and the endangerment of any community and its water supply by siting a deep-mined geological repository for high level nuclear waste.

Please help us spread the word on encouraging citizens to write their comments to BRC@...

It is recommended that all comments be sent in prior to May 1, 2011.

Thanks for everyone’s help in circulating this urgent request for public participation.

With much gratitude and appreciation,

Paul

For conservation and sustainability,

Paul Gallimore, Director

Long Branch Environmental Education Center

POB 369 Big Sandy Mush Creek

Leicester, NC 28748

Tel. 828/683-3662 Fax: 828/683-9211

E-mail: paul@...

Web Site: www.LongBranchEEC.org

www.paul.sustainablewnc.org

“To restore the land one must live and work in a place.

To work in a place is to work with others.

People who work together in a place become a community,

and a community, in time, grows a culture.

To work on behalf of the wild is to restore culture.”

-- Gary Snyder

http://www.citizen-times.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2011304060036

Activists: Nuclear waste danger for Asheville area

Waste could travel through region

9:53 PM, Apr. 5, 2011 |

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ASHEVILLE — High-level nuclear waste could be transported through Western North Carolina if a plant in South Carolina is used to store nuclear waste, experts told a crowd at UNC Asheville on Tuesday.

The Savannah River Site in Aiken, S.C., is being considered as a place to store (sic) (reprocessing) waste from nuclear power plants around the country.

The waste is currently stored at nuclear plants across the country. Business owners near the Savannah River Site have embraced the proposal, making the site a viable option, said Mary Olson of the anti-nuclear power Nuclear Information and Resource Service and a member of a federal commission examining the waste issue. There are 103 operating nuclear power plants in the U.S., and they create 95 percent of the high-level nuclear waste in the country, Olson said.

“The biggest 600-pound gorilla in the room is what to do with this nuclear waste,” Olson said.

She said the transportation of waste on highways carries risk, Olson said. The containers could leak, and an accident is always possible, Olson said. The trucks, however, could travel through Atlanta or other routes.

But the experts at the meeting were skeptical. They thought the relatively sparsely populated mountains would be the preferred route.

“We have less population in Western North Carolina,” Olson said.

A nuclear waste depository was considered in the 1970s for Sandy Mush. The site was rejected by the Department of Energy, but Olson said the site could be reconsidered because it has the preferred geology.

“The problem with our granite is that it is closest to the Savannah River Site,” Olson said.

Paul Gallimore helped fight the original proposal in Sandy Mush.

He wants the community to be aware that it remains a possibility and to express opposition to storing nuclear waste in Buncombe County.

He said the United States should be looking at other energy options besides nuclear power.

“That is the overriding question,” Gallimore said. “What kind of energy options are we going to have in the 21st century? Let's not limit our options.”

Ned Doyle, host of “Our Southern Community” radio show, said nuclear energy is not a viable option economically.

He said the nuclear industry is heavily subsidized by the federal government, and the government will have to pay for the disposal of the waste.

“All forms of sustainable energy are more affordable than nuclear power,” Doyle said.

#4567

From: "Paul Gallimore" <paul@...>
Date: Tue Apr 12, 2011 2:50 pm
Subject: FW: [N3Yall] ELEVATED RADIATION -- arrives on west coast USA

“and what have they done to the rain?”

Malvina Reynolds: Song Lyrics and Poems

What Have They Done to the Rain?

Notes: words and music by Malvina Reynolds; copyright 1962 as "Rain Song" then in 1964 as "What Have They Done to the Rain" by Schroder Music Company, renewed 1990. a.k.a. "Rain Song" and "Just a Little Rain." People now think of this as a song about acid rain, but it was originally written as part of a campaign to stop aboveground nuclear testing, which was putting strontium-90 in the air, where it was washed down by the rain, got into the soil and thence to the grass, which was eaten by cows. When children drank the cows’ milk the strontium-90, chemically similar to calcium but radioactive, was deposited in their bones. Mothers saved their children’s baby teeth and sent them in to be tested by scientists who indeed found elevated levels of strontium-90 in their teeth. A year after this song was written, President Kennedy signed the treaty against aboveground testing.

Just a little rain falling all around,
The grass lifts its head to the heavenly sound,
Just a little rain, just a little rain,
What have they done to the rain?

Just a little boy standing in the rain,
The gentle rain that falls for years.
And the grass is gone,
The boy disappears,
And rain keeps falling like helpless tears,
And what have they done to the rain?

Just a little breeze out of the sky,
The leaves pat their hands as the breeze blows by,
Just a little breeze with some smoke in its eye,
What have they done to the rain?

For conservation and sustainability,

Paul Gallimore, Director

Long Branch Environmental Education Center

POB 369 Big Sandy Mush Creek

Leicester, NC 28748

Tel. 828/683-3662 Fax: 828/683-9211

E-mail: paul@...

Web Site: www.LongBranchEEC.org

www.paul.sustainablewnc.org

“To restore the land one must live and work in a place.

To work in a place is to work with others.

People who work together in a place become a community,

and a community, in time, grows a culture.

To work on behalf of the wild is to restore culture.”

-- Gary Snyder

From: no-new-nukes-yall@yahoogroups.com [mailto:no-new-nukes-yall@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Remy Chevalier
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 5:43 PM
To: ctsos@yahoogroups.com; no-new-nukes-yall@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [N3Yall] ELEVATED RADIATION -- arrives on west coast USA

Uploaded by dutchsinse on Apr 9, 2011

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z87CJv4T4_o
(view video)

Already forecasted to be hitting Alaska NOW.. and west coast tomorrow (April 9/10, 2011)..

Full mid levels of Cesium , Xenon, and Iodine.. particulate matter, in the cloud vapor from surface level to 5000m (15,000 feet) ..

These levels are now a full level higher than all the previous forecasts.

It is up to you to decide how you want to approach this data.

Personally, I believe it to be IN THE PRECIPITATION for sure.. which means you do not want to get the rain or snow on you, and do not want to injest the fluid.. (i.e. drink the water) until levels deminish.

here are all the links: make sure to refresh each one so you get the most current data:

the revealed US site:

http://www.atmos.umd.edu/~tcanty/hysplit/

the known European sites forecasting basically the same data:

http://www.woweather.com/weather/news/fukushima?LANG=us&VAR=niluhemis131&...

http://www.woweather.com/weather/news/fukushima?LANG=us&VAR=niluhemis133&...

http://www.woweather.com/weather/news/fukushima?LANG=us&VAR=niluhemis137&...

http://www.woweather.com/weather/news/fukushima?LANG=us&VAR=eurad5000&...

Here is a list of the radioactive particles in the air.
Taken from the 3-16-11 on ZAMG site.

XE-133
CS-134
BA-136M
CS-136
CS 137
I-131
I-132
I-133
TE-132

http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?doit=done&tt=url&intl=1&...

Higher plumes, reaching 5000 meters (15,000 feet) are forecast to reach Portugal, Spain, and central europe.

All animations are from professional forecasting services. Links are below.

http://www.woweather.com/

http://www.woweather.com/weather/news/fukushima?LANG=us&VAR=hysplitheight

The radiation flow, forecast and shown by these several models... tells the tale of the isotopes coming our way... .. it will be up to you to decide if you should go outside during the time these clouds are over the USA, Canada, and Mexico...

Finland radiation:

http://www.stuk.fi/fi_FI/

radiation forecasting links:

http://www.woweather.com/weather/news/fukushima?LANG=us&VAR=webcam&SA...

http://eurdeppub.jrc.it/eurdeppub/home.aspx#

spain radiation link:

http://www.csn.es/index.php?option=com_maps&view=mappoints&Itemid=32

http://www.jaif.or.jp/english/

http://www.rivm.nl/milieuportaal/dossier/meetnetten/radioactiviteit/resultaten/

http://www.radiationnetwork.com/

http://www.blackcatsystems.com/RadMap/map.html

http://www.epa.gov (click on radiation update)

http://www.irsn.fr/EN/Pages/home.aspx

http://www.nucleartourist.com/

http://www.stuk.fi/index_en.html

http://www.mext.go.jp/english/radioactivity_level/detail/1303962.htm

http://www.nisa.meti.go.jp/english/index.html

http://www.rivm.nl/milieuportaal/dossier/meetnetten/radioactiviteit/resultaten/

http://www.yle.fi/tekstitv/html/P867_02.html

http://www.mapion.co.jp/topics/genpatu/

http://strahlenbelastung.wo-wann-wer.de/

dutch radiation monitoring:

http://www.rivm.nl/milieuportaal/dossier/meetnetten/radioactiviteit/resultaten/

swiss radiation monitoring:

https://www.naz.ch/en/aktuell/zeitverlaeufe.html

Finland radiation monitoring:

http://www.yle.fi/tekstitv/html/P160_01.html

www.yle.fi/tekstitv/html/P867_02.html

French radiation monitoring: (thanks to youtube user: RehKurts ! )

http://sws.irsn.fr/sws/mesure/index

http://www.irsn.fr/FR/Documents/france.htm

jet stream forecasting:

http://squall.sfsu.edu/crws/jetstream.html

http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/CT/animate.arctic.color.0.html

http://nowcoast.noaa.gov/

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/srh/tropicalwx/satpix/nwpac_ir4_loop.php

http://www.stormsurfing.com/cgi/display_alt.cgi?a=glob_250

http://www.woweather.com/weather/news/fukushima?LANG=us&VAR=niluhemis131&...

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#4568

From: "Lytingale" <Lyte@...>
Date: Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:05 pm
Subject: Unity Plays Broadway this weekend

Lytingale

Eighth Annual
"Unity Plays Broadway" show

Friday, April 15th - 7:30 pm
Saturday, April 16th - 2 pm

General admission... Doors open for seating 30 minutes before

A Musical Revue of favorite show tunes!
The songs in this show are performed with choreography, costumes, lighting, set
pieces, props, and live band... and a Narration to weave the story.

This is not your usual "church show"!  The comment about our shows that we hear
most often: "I didn't expect it to be so professional!"

The songs range from comic to poignant, with old favorites from the classic
musicals, plus songs from newer shows you might not have heard.

Our cast rehearses for 3 1/2 months... and ranges from professional musicians to
first-time-on-a-stage... We invite you to experience the results of
community-building thru theatre and music.

Come enjoy, laugh, and even sing along with us!
We'll perform songs from:

     * "My Fair Lady"
     * "Les Miserables"
     * "Chicago"
     * "You're A Good Man, Charlie Brown"
     * "Mamma Mia!"

Performers:
     * Singers: Lytingale, Jane Barbaccia, Jason Bornstein, Suka Chapel, Mary Lou
Christianson, Mario Christianson, Terri Crosby, John Dellamanna, Nancy Glowacki,
Dr. Bob Holt, Audrey Huff, Krishna Murphy, Linda Newman, Deni Niethammer, Chad
O'Shea, Katie O'Shea, Eric Russ, Linda Walker.
     * Accompanied by The Band: Joanne Fisher (piano), Joel Pressman (bass), Pete
Latrella (drums), Linda Walker (synth), Eric Russ (guitar)

Program: http://www.unitync.net/BroadwayProgram11.pdf
Flyer: http://www.unitync.net/BroadwayFlyer2011.pdf

     * Costumes by Cosette Goebel
     * Sets by Elaine Goad
     * Narration: Act 1: Cosette Goebel;  Act 2: Nancy Glowacki; Script:
Lytingale
     * Powerpoint: Pat Johnson
     * Stage Manager: Pat Dockery
     * Lighting: Joyce Burgess; David Horst; Set-up: Pete Latrella.
     * Sound: Mike Birkle
     * Videography: Keia Miller
     * Director for Mamma Mia!: Mary Lou Christianson
     * Director for "Cell Block Tango": Joyce Bagley-Menges
     * Director: Lytingale; Co-Director/Choreo: Katie O'Shea

Tickets: $12 paid in advance; $15 day-of-the-show.
Children under 18: Free
(Phone reservations accepted if paid by credit card).

Show proceeds benefit Unity Center.  The cast is all volunteers.

Refreshments available.

     * For videos of past shows,  visit our YouTube page:
www.youtube.com/UnityMillsRiver
     * To see photos of the 2010 Show, visit this Facebook album:
       http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=16032&id=100000282774807
     * To see photos of the 2009 Show, visit these Facebook albums:
       http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=237021&id=678750371
       http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=237650&id=678750371
       http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=237283&id=678750371
     * To see photos of the 2007 Show, visit these Facebook albums:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=70286&id=678750371
       http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=70285&id=678750371
       http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=70279&id=678750371
       http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=69784&id=678750371

#4569

From: "Paul Gallimore" <paul@...>
Date: Sat Apr 16, 2011 4:14 pm
Subject: Earth Day festivities today 6pm Asheville's City County Plaza

Hi folks,

I’ve been invited to speak at the Earth Day festivities today at 6pm at Asheville’s City County Plaza.

Please come by if you can!

Here’s an outline of my proposed remarks.

I want stress no nukes, no coal, no fossil fuels.

This is a call to action!

We must transition immediately to safe, renewable, abundant energy sources.

Everyone can use the internet to contact decision makers from Obama (what happened to the campaign promise of pursuing a "Manhattan Project for Renewables"?),

to Senators (Hagan will be at the Madison County Extension Service next Thurs., 4/21, from 1:30-2:30 to meet constituents and hear their concerns),

Representatives (Shuler),

State Legislators (advocate passage of H135/S367 (the Efficient and Affordable Energy Rates Bill) to stop construction of unnecessary and polluting coal-fired and/or nuclear power plants

County Commissioners (encourage Buncombe and Haywood counties to pass an ordinance banning nuclear waste transportation/ dump like Madison recently did) and

City Council (put more solar collectors on city owned properties, more hybrid buses, etc.).

I want to encourage direct action and summon a revival of the efforts made in the 60s and 70s.

Undoubtedly the audience will be comprised of people born after Three Mile Island (ask for a display of hands?), who never marched in the streets or took matters in their own hands.

I would ask for each person to make a personal commitment to the alternative energy agenda as their solemn pledge to honor the Earth Day tradition and do all within their power --- from better utilizing energy in their own lives to influencing decision makers to make common sense decisions for survival of the planet.

Without sounding too moribund, I would tell them that we are at the 11th hour and that survival is dependent on those who are paying attention to take action.

Everyone can send emails to BRC@... to keep radioactive waste off our highways, to keep nuclear waste from being reprocessed at the Savannah River Site (SRS) in nearby Aitken, SC, and to keep a high level nuclear waste dump from being sited here in Western NC (Big Sandy Mush in Buncombe County was chosen as a candidate site in 1986).

Don’t think it can’t happen here!

“We are the spiritual energy that is thousands times stronger than nuclear energy.

Our energy in the combined will of all people with the spirit of the Natural World,

to be of one body, one heart and one mind for peace.”

-- from the Address to the General Assembly of the United Nations, Delivered October 25, 1985 by Leon Shenandoah, Tadodaho, Haudenosaunee

The Peoples’ Agenda and All Species’ Resolution for Energy Policy in the 21^st Century — A Call to Action!

Given the crisis of the dispersion of radioactive materials across the entire planet,

And knowing that mutations and cancers are directly linked to exposure to these radioactive particles afflicting all biological life forms, and all future generations of every species,

We call for an immediate moratorium on all new nuclear reactor permitting, licensing, and construction.

We call for a complete and thorough INDEPENDENT review of all nuclear facilities around the country – no engineer, scientist or health-professional with ties to either the nuclear industry or the government will be allowed to participate in this stringent review of the nuclear facilities.

We call for a complete cessation of the transport of nuclear materials.

We call for the utilization of Hardened On Site Storage (HOSS) of nuclear wastes at each nuclear reactor site as a way of protecting public health and safety and well as environmental integrity.

We call for the immediate ban of radioactive material reprocessing anywhere in the US.

We call for the immediate ban of uranium mining on all federally owned lands.

We call for the decommissioning of all existing nuclear reactors in the US.

We call for a massive federal program of expanding projects promoting energy conservation, energy efficiency, and the implementation of renewable energy projects to provide for the nation’s energy needs.

May All Beings – especially Mother Earth -- Be Happy!

For conservation and sustainability,

Paul Gallimore, Director

Long Branch Environmental Education Center

POB 369 Big Sandy Mush Creek

Leicester, NC 28748

Tel. 828/683-3662 Fax: 828/683-9211

E-mail: paul@...

Web Site: www.LongBranchEEC.org

www.paul.sustainablewnc.org

“To restore the land one must live and work in a place.

To work in a place is to work with others.

People who work together in a place become a community,

and a community, in time, grows a culture.

To work on behalf of the wild is to restore culture.”

-- Gary Snyder

#4570

From: "PARC" <AshevillePARC@...>
Date: Mon Apr 18, 2011 1:47 pm
Subject: Land Use Workshop

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#4571

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Date: Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:27 pm
Subject: Asheville Magazine and YOU!

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#4572

From: "Paul Gallimore" <paul@...>
Date: Thu Apr 21, 2011 2:05 am
Subject: FW: [N3Yall] Radiation Spreads Worlwide. The Poisoning of Mother Earth

Dear Friends,

If these reports don’t strengthen our resolve to put an end to nuclear power and weaponry, what will it take?

Our commitment to encourage hundreds of thousands of emails to BRC@NUCLEAR. ENERGY.GOV and to have citizens discover their voices to speak truth to power can only strengthen our movement to realize environmental justice, sustainable energy development, and the many pathways to peace.

As the Hopi Elders have observed, “We are the Ones we’ve been waiting for!”

With much Gratitude, Courage and Strength to Everyone!

For conservation and sustainability,

Paul Gallimore, Director

Long Branch Environmental Education Center

POB 369 Big Sandy Mush Creek

Leicester, NC 28748

Tel. 828/683-3662 Fax: 828/683-9211

E-mail: paul@...

Web Site: www.LongBranchEEC.org

www.paul.sustainablewnc.org

“To restore the land one must live and work in a place.

To work in a place is to work with others.

People who work together in a place become a community,

and a community, in time, grows a culture.

To work on behalf of the wild is to restore culture.”

-- Gary Snyder

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Subject: [N3Yall] Radiation Spreads Worlwide. The Poisoning of Mother Earth

Radiation Spreads Worlwide. The Poisoning of Mother Earth by Freedom Against Censorship Thailand (FACT) http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=24292

Global Research, April 13, 2011

	Nuclear power “too cheap to meter”! On April 12, Japan’s nuclear safety agency raised the Fukushima meltdown to level 7, the highest category on the International Nuclear Event Scale. Level 7 was created expressly for the Chernobyl disaster, consisting of “a major release of radiation with a widespread health and environmental impact”. A recent study was prepared for Greenpeace Germany by international nuclear safety expert Dr. Helmut Hirsch. Dr. Hirsch’s assessment, based on data published by the French government’s radiation protection agency (IRSN) and the Austrian government’s Central Institute for Meteorology and Geodynamics (ZAMG) found that the total amount of unstable radionuclides Iodine-131 and Caesium-137 released between March 11 and March 23 has been so high that the Fukushima crisis already equates to three INES 7 incidents. Release of radiation from the stricken reactors has reached 10,000 teraBequerels (10,000 trillion Bequerels) per hour, measured for radioactive Iodine-131. YouTube: “President Obama: ‘We Do Not Expect Harmful Levels of Radiation to Reach the U.S.’” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpAqiGSp29c Radiation in milk in Hawaii is now at least 2,033% above Federal drinking water safety limits. The US safety limit is 3 pCi/l (picoCuries per litre). Note this is the minimum percentage found over EPA requirements. This figure is reached by adding together the Caesium-134 (800%); −137 (633%); and Iodine-131 (600%) levels found in milk. http://theintelhub.com/2011/04/11/japan-nuclear-radiation-in-hawaii-milk-2033-above-federal-drinking-water-limits/ . It should be noted the testing was performed on samples of organic milk. Increased radiation has been reported in the municipal drinking water of at least 14 US cities. These are not restricted to the west coast of North America but have occurred in the US midwest and east coast. Where measured, rainwater in every US state and Canadian province have elevated radioactivity. In California, Geiger counter activity has trebled, from 7.5 to 22.5 clicks per minute. Rainwater samples taken in San Francisco April 6 measured an increase of 18,100% above Federal standards and included measures of radioactive caesium and Tellurium-132. The west coast Canadian city of Vancouver ordered suspended all mobile radiation testing until further notice after levels of 10,000% safe levels of Iodine-131 were detected. The Canadian Food Inspection Agency refused to test British Columbia milk for radiation. On April 4, Japanese government also has requested the Japan Meteorological Society and Japanese universities not to release data from radiation measurement to avoid “public panic”. Rainwater samples have all demonstrated elevated concentrations of radioactive Tellurium-02, Ruthenium-04 and Technetium-04. 280 sensors to measure radiation release from atomic bomb testing were established under the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty in 1996. These sensors are detecting levels equivalent to Chernobyl releases. One scientist, Gerhard Wotawa, noted, “I’ve never seen data like this in my career.” So how do we deal with disaster? Austria, Germany, Canada and Australia have banned eight episodes of Matt Groening’s US anime series, The Simpsons, dealing with nuclear crisis. The Simpsons, now in its 24th season with 480 episodes, has been one of the few outlets to show the greed of nuclear operators, grovelling toadies and a complacent public to a mainstream television audience. Meltdowns caused by jelly doughnuts! See http://simpsons.wikia.com/wiki/Springfield_Nuclear_Power_Plant Kopp Online, Xander News and other non-English news agencies are reporting that the EU implemented a secret “emergency” order without informing the public which increases the amount of radiation permitted in food by up to 20 times previous food standards. According to EU bylaws radiation limits may be raised during a nuclear emergency to prevent food shortages. http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2011/04/03/eu-secretly-implements-large-increases-food-radiation-limits-informing-public-13636/ Japan itself has now restricted rice planting in soil with more than 5,000 Becquerels per kilogram of radioactive caesium, the first time maximum radiation levels have been set for soil anywhere. The Fukushima prefectural government announced on April 6 that rice paddies 20-30 kilometers from the nuclear plant have shown as much as 15,031 Becquerels per kilogram of radioactive caesium. It would appear TEPCO dumped 11,500 tons of radioactive runoff into the ocean, 100 times the permissible amount. Although the diplomatic corps was informed beforehand and the Japanese foreign minister stated the release does not violate international law, Iodine-131 was found in seawater at 7.5 million times and radioactive Caesium at 1.1 million times the legal limit. 60,000 tons of radioactive water remain. In fact, such dumping clearly violates 1972 international law, the ”Convention on the Prevention of Marine Pollution by Dumping of Wastes and Other Matter”. As Natural News puts it, “Fukushima has become the dirty bomb of the Pacific.” Fish in nearby waters are now being measured at 4,000% above the Codex Alimentarius limits for Iodine-131 and 447% of Caesium-137. Radioactive caesium has a half-life of 30 years. Radiation levels for the isotope are not considered “safe” for 10 to 20 times longer. The caesium released today will remain dangerous six centuries from now. When one takes into account the conveyor currents of the north Pacific, all seafood will become contaminated. Radioactive seaweed has been found in Puget Sound. Goodbye, sushi! We’re poisoning the mother of all life on Earth. The nuclear operator has offered $12 each in compensation to nearby residents. This paltry offer was refused. Economists at Tyler Durden has reported an inevitable economic collapse for Japan following a plunge from 52.9 to 46.4 in private mortgage insurance. However, what we’re seeing, according to the American NGO Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility is the application of new standards which will drastically raise the levels of radiation allowed in food, water, air and the general environment. Access to internal US Environmental Protection Agency communications has revealed a 1,000% increase for exposure to Strontium-90; a 3,000-100,000% rise for Iodine-131; a 25,000% rise for Nickel-63 in drinking water. Any radiation has no safety threshold for human exposure and the EPA’s own numbers state that 25% of people exposed to these “new acceptable levels” would develop cancers. The EPA is not required to make its deliberation public or debated by Congress; all that is required to make this Federal regulation is simple publication of the changes in the US government gazette, the Federal Register. http://www.collapsenet.com/free-resources/collapsenet-public-access/item/723-fallout This is being accomplished, of course, to protect the nuclear lobby and its stakeholders from threats to its financial health. In addition to cancers, any radiation exposure correlates to an increase in immune system disorders. Thyroid diseases, diabetes, asthma, AIDS, hepatitis, multiple sclerosis, myalgic encephalomyelitis and a huge spectrum of non-specific neurological conditions are expected in the human population. Radioactive iodine attacks thyroid function while radioactive caesium mimics potassium uptake. The ‘Petkau effect’ for ingestion of beta and alpha particles, discovered by Atomic Energy of Canada scientist Dr. Abram Petkau in 1972, draws ominous conclusions for human exposure. Dr. Petkau found that lower doses of ionising radiation are actually more efficient at disrupting human cell activity. Uranium-234, previously unreported, has been detected in Hawaii, southern California and Seattle. This is likely to be a product of the alpha decay of the Plutonium-238 found in the Fukushima reactors but Plutonium-238, −239 and −240 have already been released into the atmosphere at Fukushima. Uranium-234 has a half-life 245,500 years, which means that radioactivity will be detectable for half a million years. There will certainly be no people to measure it! South Korea closed 130 schools starting April 7 due to radioactive rain at levels only 1/10 of California’s. A further Richter 7.1 aftershock on April 8 in Japan, the largest since the March 11 9.0 earthquake, negatively affected at least a further five Japanese nuclear power facilities to varying degrees but some with loss of power. Will Japan become a new Atlantis? International shipping has also already been affected with many shipping lines avoiding Japan to prevent radioactive contamination. However, further reports indicate that some irradiated ships have been found in European ports. Japanese cars imported into Russia have been found to have high levels of radiation. Some scientists have already declared northern Japan, including Tokyo, uninhabitable and recommended its evacuation.. Radiation in Tokyo has been doubling every day since March 11. Video report: http://vimeo.com/22003275 and http://vimeo.com/22003021. Evacuated to where, exactly? On March 15, Germany bowed to enormous public protest and announced it will continue to phase out nuclear power and shut down, temporarily, seven of its oldest reactors. However, the final shutdown is not planned until 2020. On April 12, China announced it was suspending all nuclear construction for 20 months, until December 2012. China had been expected to become the world’s largest user of nuclear power, supporting 40% of new development. Thank you but this is both too little and, obviously, too late. Nuclear power must be legislated out of existence now or the robber barons and their politician friends will just be waiting until we get lazy and forget.
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#4573

From: "Virato" <virato@...>
Date: Thu Mar 31, 2011 2:45 am
Subject: WATER

virato

To All People Around the World

Please send your prayers of love and gratitude to water at the nuclear plants in Fukushima, Japan!

By the massive earthquakes of Magnitude 9 and surreal massive tsunamis, more than 10,000 people are still missing...even now... It has been 16 days already since the disaster happened. What makes it worse is that water at the reactors of Fukushima Nuclear Plants started to leak, and it's contaminating the ocean, air and water molecule of surrounding areas. Human wisdom has not been able to do much to solve the problem, but we are only trying to cool down the anger of radioactive materials in the reactors by discharging water to them. Is there really nothing else to do? I think there is. During over twenty year research of hado measuring and water crystal photographic technology, I have been witnessing that water can turn positive when it receives pure vibration of human prayer no matter how far away it is.Energy formula of Albert Einstein, E=MC2 really means that Energy = number of people and the square of people's consciousness.

Now is the time to understand the true meaning. Let us all join the prayer ceremony as fellow citizens of the planet earth. I would like to ask all people, not just in Japan, but all around the world to please help us to find a way out the crisis of this planet!!

The prayer procedure is as follows.

Name of ceremony:
"Let's send our thoughts of love and gratitude to all water in the nuclear plants in Fukushima"

Day and Time:
March 31st, 2011 (Thursday)
12:00 noon in each time zone

Please say the following phrase:
"The water of Fukushima Nuclear Plant, we are sorry to make you suffer. Please forgive us. We thank you, and we love you." Please say it aloud or in your mind. Repeat it three times as you put your hands together in a prayer position. Please offer your sincere prayer.

Thank you very much from my heart.
With love and gratitude,
Masaru Emoto Messenger of Water
AHO, Grandmother Whitedeer

#4574

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Date: Fri Apr 22, 2011 7:28 pm
Subject: Looking for RV Parking and/or Creative Investment Partner

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#4575

From: "Virato" <virato@...>
Date: Sat Apr 23, 2011 3:55 pm
Subject: Employment Opp at Asheville Magazine

virato

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#4576

From: "Paul Gallimore" <paul@...>
Date: Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:20 am
Subject: Dot Sulock's op-ed: Renewable Energy is safer alternative to nuclear plants

http://www.citizen-times.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2011303310010

Hi folks,

In case you missed it, please see Asheville Citizen-Times op-ed posted below, Dot Sulock: “Renewable Energy is safer alternative to nuclear plants.”

Can it really be true that greed for fossil fuels and nuclear can be both cost-ineffective and self-destructive?

Gee, maybe it really is time to wake up!

Thanks,

Paul

For conservation and sustainability,

Paul Gallimore, Director

Long Branch Environmental Education Center

POB 369 Big Sandy Mush Creek

Leicester, NC 28748

Tel. 828/683-3662 Fax: 828/683-9211

E-mail: paul@...

Web Site: www.LongBranchEEC.org

www.paul.sustainablewnc.org

“To restore the land one must live and work in a place.

To work in a place is to work with others.

People who work together in a place become a community,

and a community, in time, grows a culture.

To work on behalf of the wild is to restore culture.”

-- Gary Snyder

Written by Dot Sulock

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Guest Commentaries

Dot Sulock will be speaking at the monthly meeting of Western North Carolina Sierra Club at 7:30 p.m. Wednesday at the Universalist-Unitarian Church, Charlotte and Edwin streets. Mary Olsen of Nuclear Information Resource Services will also make a presentation on dangers of nuclear power.

Learn more

The world can be powered by alternative energy, using today's technology, in 20-40 years, says Stanford researcher Mark Z. Jacobson. For details visit http://news.stanford.edu/2011/january/jacobson-world-energy-012611.html.

As the authors explain, powering the world with wind, water and solar (WWS) would be healthier, safer, and cheaper than continuing to use fossil fuels and nuclear power. According to these energy experts, ordinary dams, wind turbines, solar thermal facilities, and photovoltaics (PV) on rooftops can provide all the energy for the world.

Interestingly these authors do not include geothermal energy in their energy picture for a sustainable world. How to harness the heat of the earth to make base load electricity in more places using Enhanced Geothermal Systems (EGS) is explained by a Google website called “A Googol of Heat Beneath Our Feet” at www.google.org/egs/. Be sure to watch the video in which Dr. Steven Chu, now the United States Secretary of Energy, explains that the US needs 100 exajoules of energy from all sources and has 14 million exajoules of EGS potential.

No mention yet of ocean power. The website www.alternative-energy-news-info/technology/hydro/wave-power/ provides a wealth of information about various wave energy, tidal energy, hydrokinetic energy and osmotic energy technologies. Another potentially important way to generate electricity from the oceans is called Ocean Thermal Energy Conversion (OTEC). A national defense superstar, Lockheed Martin is working on OTEC as they explain with photos and a video at www.lockheedmartin.com/products/otec Another great video can be found at www.youtube.com/watch?v=V27ZBODcv0c explaining how CETO wave power is the “holy grail” of Australia, able to both provide electricity to coastal cities and turn sea water into fresh water using only the energy of underwater ocean currents.

How many readers are familiar with the excellent work of the World Wildlife Fund (WWF)? Recently the WWF published a several-hundred page detailed report called “The Energy Report – 100 percent Renewables by 2050.” The preface begins, “By 2050, we could get all the energy we need from renewable sources. This report shows that such a transition is not only possible but also cost-effective, providing energy that is affordable for all and producing it in ways that can be sustained by the global economy and the planet. The transition will present significant challenges, but I hope this report will inspire governments and business to come to grips with those challenges and, at the same time, to move boldly to bring the renewable economy into reality. There is nothing more important to our ability to create a sustainable future.”

I guess humans are among the animals that WWF hopes to save. If you are ambitious you could read their report, or if you are busy you could read about their report at www.panda.org/renewables.

Both solar and wind are “intermittent” resources but smart grids and various energy storage technologies can overcome intermittency issues. The world could be powered by geothermal energy alone and geothermal energy provides continuous base load power.

Wave energy experts claim that the ocean’s waves could constantly provide much more energy than the world will ever need. Other renewable energy resources include tidal energy, algae fuel, methane from landfills, hydrokinetic energy from moving rivers and micro-hydro from smaller streams.

Dot Sulock teaches in UNC Asheville's math department and international studies program.

At 8 p.m. Tuesday in the Humanities Lecture Hall at UNC Asheville, there will be a panel discussion by local nuclear experts titled “Our Nuclear Future.” For more information, call Dr. Gregory Olson at 545-9392 or Mary Olson at 242-5621.

#4577

From: "Paul Gallimore" <paul@...>
Date: Wed Apr 27, 2011 4:42 am
Subject: Chernobyl Catastrophe: 25th Anniversary of World's Worst Nuclear Accident

Chernobyl Catastrophe: 25th Anniversary of World’s Worst Nuclear Accident

On April 26, 1986, an explosion at the power plant sent a cloud of radioactive fallout into Russia, Belarus and over a large portion of Europe.

Until the crisis in Japan, Chernobyl was the world’s only Level 7 "major accident" nuclear disaster, the most severe designation issued by the International Atomic Energy Agency. Watch/Listen/Read

Dear Friends,

Please watch, listen, or read the riveting transcript posted below.

These interviews with Dr. Jeff Patterson, the immediate past president of Physicians for Social Responsibility has visited the Chernobyl disaster site. Physicians for Social Responsibility has just released a new Nuclear Reactor Accident Evacuation Zone Mapping Tool and Dr. Janette Sherman provide a well-defined context for articulating our energy policy in the 21^st century.

They make it clear that nuclear energy/weaponry is catastrophic for human health, the environment, and the future generations of all living beings.

http://democracynow.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=7c55dbbfa32e541749065a92a&id=7aea0434bf&e=4f2fcf6f5d

For conservation and sustainability,

Paul Gallimore, Director

Long Branch Environmental Education Center

POB 369 Big Sandy Mush Creek

Leicester, NC 28748

Tel. 828/683-3662 Fax: 828/683-9211

E-mail: paul@...

Web Site: www.LongBranchEEC.org

www.paul.sustainablewnc.org

“To restore the land one must live and work in a place.

To work in a place is to work with others.

People who work together in a place become a community,

and a community, in time, grows a culture. To work on behalf of the wild is to restore culture.” -- Gary SnyderChernobyl Catastrophe: 25th Anniversary of World’s Worst Nuclear Accident

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As Japan continues to deal with its nuclear crisis at the Fukushima Daiichi power facility, memorials are being held in Ukraine, Belarus and Russia today to mark the 25th anniversary of the nuclear meltdown at Chernobyl. On April 26, 1986, an explosion at the power plant sent a cloud of radioactive fallout into Russia, Belarus and over a large portion of Europe. Soviet officials attempted to cover up the accident, but eventually 50,000 people living in Chernobyl’s immediate surroundings had to be evacuated. A vast rural region near the plant remains uninhabitable. Until the crisis in Japan, Chernobyl was the world’s only Level 7 "major accident" nuclear disaster, the most severe designation issued by the International Atomic Energy Agency. [includes rush transcript]

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AMY GOODMAN: It was 25 years ago today when a deadly explosion at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant in the former Soviet state of Ukraine led to what was then the worst nuclear disaster in history. It sent a cloud of radioactive fallout into Russia, Belarus and over a large portion of Europe. Fifty thousand people living in Chernobyl’s immediate surroundings had to be evacuated. A vast rural region became uninhabitable, and public authorities were forced to put restrictions on the sale and import of food to reduce the risk of radiation-induced cancer deaths among their populations.

Children born in the plant’s vicinity continue experiencing high levels of birth defects, especially severe brain damage. In this clip from the 2003 documentary Chernobyl Heart, a nurse at a children’s care facility applies medication to the severely infected and mutated hands of a little boy.

NURSE: [translated] I think he’s in danger of losing his hands.

INTERVIEWER: [translated] Is there a relationship between radiation from Chernobyl and what is wrong with the kids you see?

NURSE: [translated] I think so, of course. I’ve been working here for 19 years. I can definitely say that the children before were not as mentally deficient, and now they have more physical and mental handicaps. They were born with some kind of abnormality and were abandoned.

INTERVIEWER: [translated] You seem like you’re about to cry. Are you always this close to tears?

NURSE: [translated] I can’t handle this. I have two children myself.

AMY GOODMAN: That was a clip from Chernobyl Heart, a 2003 documentary film by Maryann DeLeo. The film won the Best Documentary Short Subject Award at the 2004 Academy Awards.

Chernobyl is one of only two nuclear accidents to ever receive a Level 7 classification on the International Nuclear Event Scale. The other was, just recently, Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power accident that occurred last month in Japan.

Today, environmental activists are demonstrating on the Chernobyl plant to mark the 25th anniversary and raise awareness about the current nuclear fallout in Japan. A nuclear expert from Greenpeace International in Russia explained why he’s participating in the protest.

TOBIAS MUENCHMEYER: [translated] The Chernobyl catastrophe began exactly here 25 years ago. Six weeks ago, we saw a Japanese atomic catastrophe. What else are we waiting for? We urgently need to move to alternative sources of energy: wind, solar energy, the use of biomass energy. All this exists. It just needs a political will to move to alternative energy sources.

AMY GOODMAN: A full quarter of a century after Chernobyl, the world is faced with a new nuclear catastrophe, this time in Japan.

To discuss further what took place 25 years ago, we’re joined by Dr. Janette Sherman. She edited the book Chernobyl: Consequences of the Catastrophe for People and Nature. She’s joining us from Arlington, Virginia, joining us from PBS station WETA.

We’re also joined by Dr. Jeff Patterson. He’s the immediate past president of Physicians for Social Responsibility. He visited Chernobyl after the disaster. He joins us from Washington, D.C.

Jeff Patterson, let’s begin with you. Talk about what happened 25 years ago today and what you saw when you went there afterwards.

DR. JEFF PATTERSON: Well, a month after the accident, which irradiated a huge area—and the radiation went worldwide—I was in Germany, East and West Germany, touring and lecturing. I was in Marburg, a university town much like Madison. After my lecture, the mayor of Marburg came up to me and said, "What should I tell people? I get different answers from my radiation specialists, from my medical doctors, from my engineers. I don’t know what to tell people." And I think this is the situation today.

Two years after Chernobyl, I was in Chernobyl, and while we were touring around the plant, where they were still washing down the streets, there were men grading dirt up that was highly radioactive. They wore no respirators, no protection whatsoever. And I asked my guide, "How are you monitoring the radiation levels on these people?" And he said, "Oh, they all wear badges." And I said, "Where’s your badge?" And he opened his coat and said, "I guess I left it at home today." And this is exemplary of what was done after Chernobyl, where 600,000 to 800,000 workers came in and sacrificed some of their lives for the cleanup.

And the records on many of those workers are simply gone. They’ve disappeared. I spoke recently with a physicist who was involved with monitoring the radiation at the plant at that time, and he said these workers had no protection. They wore paper masks, that they often didn’t wear. And he said he’s tried to find the records in the Ukraine, and they’ve simply disappeared. And he himself did not know how much radiation he received at the time of that accident. So I think this is an example of the confusion, the difficulty in monitoring radiation, and the history of the nuclear industry, which has been one of secrecy, cover-up and minimization of the damage that occurs.

AMY GOODMAN: Let’s go to Janette Sherman. Dr. Janette Sherman, describe what happened on this day 25 years ago in Chernobyl. Even place it for us physically.

DR. JANETTE SHERMAN: Well, there had been a decision to do a test on the reactor, and they—it was started on the day shift, and then it couldn’t happen, so they postponed it to the afternoon shift, and finally it was undertaken on the night shift, where people were not prepared, and they achieved a runaway nuclear reaction, which they could not control, and had an explosion that we’re contending with ever since.

We still—even though it’s 25 years later, we’re still dealing with the radiation at Chernobyl. It’s still leaking out of the reactor. The so-called containment that was built around it is crumbling. And there is really no way to control this. There is a proposal to build a steel shell that will come from two different directions and close over the top of the reactor, but the funding hasn’t been achieved yet, and it’s a long way off before this will ever be built.

AMY GOODMAN: Dr. Jeff Patterson, the casualties of Chernobyl 25 years ago are wide-ranging. Some say 4,500 people died. Others—well, a study by the New York Academy of Sciences in 2009 concluded the death toll from Chernobyl was as high as one million. What are the figures?

DR. JEFF PATTERSON: Well, I think we do have a wide range of figures, and I don’t think we know for sure. When we look at the Hiroshima data, this Hiroshima bomb was a one-time dose of radiation that occurred 65 years ago, and we’re still seeing new cancers and new deaths from that. And again, that was a one-time dose of radiation. This radiation goes on and on, because its nuclides that are put into the atmosphere are now in the ground and water and continue to expose people. So, we honestly don’t know the end of this experiment, and we’re going to have to watch it for literally hundreds of years to see what’s going to happen. I think that it’s safe to say that the results are far worse than certainly the conservative estimates.

And the other issue is, the Hiroshima data has cost billions of dollars to accumulate. And we’ve been looking at that for 65 years, and we still don’t have the end answer to that question. So, here we are with far more people exposed to continuing radiation. This is truly an experiment that we’re not going to see the end of, and that the results of which will be visited on our children and grandchildren for generations to come.

AMY GOODMAN: And this figure that the Chernobyl blast was 400 times more powerful than the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima, could you explain that?

DR. JEFF PATTERSON: Well, it’s a little difficult, because the bomb was exploded a thousand feet in the air, and so it was a one-time dose of radiation. The thermal energy initially killed about 100,000 people, and subsequently 100,000 or so more have died from the effects of the radiation and other injuries. And so, the force of the blast is essentially what we’re talking about here and also the radiation effect. And I think the fact is that more radiation has been released from the Chernobyl plant, and that’s, I think, where the figure of the 400 times more powerful comes from.

AMY GOODMAN: On the eve of the 25th anniversary of the Chernobyl nuclear disaster, President Dmitry Medvedev of Russia reiterated his commitment to the development of nuclear energy.

PRESIDENT DMITRY MEDVEDEV: [translated] The recent events have reminded humanity that we can’t take things easy and that, when making important decisions, it is necessary to take into account a whole range of issues which in the future might affect safety. Of course, I mean the situation around the Japanese Fukushima 1 nuclear plant. At the same time, we should not block development. The peaceful atom remains the cheapest and, in general, environmentally the cheapest type of energy.

AMY GOODMAN: Late last month, President Obama unveiled a new energy policy, seeking to reduce the use of foreign oil while reaffirming also his commitment to nuclear power.

PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA: It’s important to recognize that nuclear energy doesn’t emit carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, so those of us who are concerned about climate change, we’ve got to recognize that nuclear power, if it’s safe, can make a significant contribution to the climate change question. [...] And we’re going to incorporate those conclusions and lessons from Japan in design and the building of the next generation of plants. But we can’t simply take it off the table.

AMY GOODMAN: Dr. Jeff Patterson, your response?

DR. JEFF PATTERSON: Well, I think nuclear power, nuclear energy, has three poisonous Ps, and those are pollution—and we’re certainly seeing the example of that now at the 25th anniversary of Chernobyl. That pollution occurs all along the fuel cycle, from the time we dig it out of the ground, the tailings that are left and expose people to radon, to the proliferation of nuclear weapons, to the production of fuel, and then we don’t know where to bury the waste or what to do with it. And now we’re seeing the catastrophic release of radiation once again, which happened at Kyshtym in Russia, happened in Chernobyl, and now is happening in Fukushima—and will happen again. And so, pollution is the first thing that is the poisonous P.

Second is price. And as Medvedev said—he claims that this is the cheapest form of energy. It’s by far and away the most expensive form of energy. When we figure in the results of these disasters and the cost to people’s health, the economic loss, the agricultural loss, the Ukraine, in the initial days of this, spent a sixth of their national budget on Chernobyl. And Belarus and the Ukraine are still spending five to seven percent of their national budgets every year to deal with the Chernobyl accident. If we figured all of that in to the cost of nuclear power, nuclear power becomes extremely expensive. As Dr. Sherman mentioned, the next sarcophagus that they’re proposing to build over the nuclear power plant, they’re estimating will cost $1.1 billion, and they’ve only raised $800 million for this now. It’s already three years behind time in terms of being built. And so, the question is, will this ever get done, because the cost of this is so much. The cost of building a new nuclear power plant is so expensive that, chances are, none will be built, because nobody wants to fund them.

And the third poisonous P is proliferation. Nuclear power and nuclear weapons go hand in hand. Medvedev talked about the peaceful atom that was designed by Eisenhower. Well, it’s out of the peaceful atom program that has come nuclear weapons for many countries. And we’re seeing the example of that in Iran today. So, these are deadly parts of the nuclear experiment that we are conducting today that, in my opinion, is a highly unethical experiment.

AMY GOODMAN: An evacuation zone study is being released by your group, Dr. Jeff Patterson, Physicians for Social Responsibility, that shows there are many nuclear plants in the United States where there are much denser populations than there were around Hiroshima or Chernobyl. Can you talk about the news conference that you’re heading off to right after you leave Democracy Now!?

DR. JEFF PATTERSON: Yes. We’re doing a presentation in which we’ve developed a map that you can click on and see in your area how near you are to a nuclear power plant and then look at the evacuation zones out from that power plant. And for example, in New York, there’s a nuclear power plant 19 miles from New York City. So we’re talking about, with an accident like Fukushima, potentially evacuating 20 million people. Well, if the Japanese are having trouble evacuating the folks from around their plant and are now changing the, quote, "safe" levels of radiation that children can be exposed to in the middle of the ball game here, imagine what it would be like in New York City when this accident might occur and attempting to evacuate those people on a summer day, let alone in the middle of a snowstorm, in New York City. So I would invite people to look at this and consider what this means for their lives.

The mayor of South Miami, Florida, just wrote a letter, when, after the Fukushima accident, he was trying to find out what the evacuation plans are for South Miami, which is 16 miles from a nuclear power plant. And he, as mayor, can’t find out what will happen and feels that the plans are totally inadequate, including the plans to distribute potassium iodide. He tried to find out from the county how many tablets of potassium iodine were available, and they wouldn’t tell him.

So I think that the lesson in this is that wherever this happens in the world, it happens to us all—the radiation from Fukushima is here, we’re still experiencing radiation from Chernobyl that has gone worldwide, and so no one is isolated from these accidents—and that no matter where it occurs, whether we blame the technology in Russia, whether we blame the tsunami, that we are all totally inadequately prepared to deal with this. We are attempting to manage the unmanageable. And so, we need to rapidly move away from this and rapidly move away from nuclear weapons in the world.

AMY GOODMAN: Dr. Janette Sherman, you’re known for a prophetic paper you wrote some six months before the Fukushima catastrophe, where you wrote, "Given [the] profound weather effects (earthquakes, floods, tsunamis, [etc.]) human fallibility, and military conflicts, many believe it is only a matter of time before there is another nuclear catastrophe." Can you talk more about this and what you feel needs to be done? I mean, you talked about this before Fukushima. You edited the book Chernobyl, the book that looks at the consequences of the catastrophe for people and nature, putting together a number of Russian writers about what took place. And you also talked about how the Russian government dealt with it and how governments should deal.

DR. JANETTE SHERMAN: Well, we clearly need, as a society, to say no to nuclear power, because there is no way to control it. And as Dr. Patterson points out, these catastrophes will continue, and we can’t—we, simply, as a world society, cannot deal with them. When a nuclear reactor explodes, the radiation goes around the entire hemisphere. It is not confined to where the people live—or where the accident occurred. The effects are ubiquitous across all species: that’s wild and domestic animals, birds, fish, bacteria, viruses, plants and humans. So the effects are extremely serious, and they last for generations. We’re terribly concerned about Belarus, where only 20 percent of the children are now considered healthy. So, what do you do with a society if 80 percent of your population is sick? Who are going to be the artists and the musicians and the scientists and the teachers, if your population is not well?

We need to stop the use of nuclear power. We have other sources: conservation and solar and wind and biofuels. We need the population to rise up and say, "No more nuclear." It’s not going to work, and it will just be a matter of time before there’s yet another accident, such as occurred—is occurring at Fukushima Daiichi. We know now they still do not have this accident under control, and it’s still releasing massive quantities of isotopes. And it’s going to be a disaster for the Japanese population, but also it’s spreading around again the northern hemisphere.

AMY GOODMAN: You had talked about the liquidators in Chernobyl, the people who went into the plant.

DR. JANETTE SHERMAN: Yes.

AMY GOODMAN: And you also look at those in Japan and what it means for them. Explain their jobs and what it is they’re exposed to.

DR. JANETTE SHERMAN: Well, in Chernobyl, the liquidators were largely recruits. They were generally healthy young men and women, generally between the ages of 18 and 39 or so. Already, by 2006, 15 percent had died, and now the data that is arriving to us is about 90 percent of the 800,000 recruits have bad health. And their children are particularly adversely affected.

Now, we don’t know if the cleanup workers in Japan are being protected or not. Certainly, the Tyvek suits are not going to protect them from external radiation. The biggest concern for the—is the inhalation and ingestion of radioisotopes, which are being released on a constant basis. We see that the cleanup workers in Japan are wearing respirators, but whether they are adequate or not, I have no idea. We’re also not being given information on the levels of radiation to which they’re exposed. Now, what they did in Chernobyl, they would send in some people to do some particularly dangerous work for maybe 15 minutes or half an hour and then take them out, because they had received a lifetime dosage. We don’t know what’s occurring in Japan, particularly, and whether the workers are being adequately protected.

It’s very, very, very important to keep adequate records on exposures and the effect of the workers and make them publicly available, certainly not by the name of the individual person, but certainly the data needs to be available and transparent so scientists can follow what is happening to these people. The problem within Chernobyl was that they released almost no data for three years, and it was very, very difficult to reconstruct what was happening. And as Dr. Patterson pointed out, many of these records have disappeared. And indeed, many records of nuclear workers in the United States have disappeared, and it has—workers have a very hard time finding what their exposures were, even when they knew what their job description was.

AMY GOODMAN: Well, Dr. Janette Sherman, I want to thank you for being with us, specialist in internal medicine and toxicology, edited the book Chernobyl: Consequences of the Catastrophe for People and Nature. And Dr. Jeff Patterson, as you head off to the news conference of Physicians for Social Responsibility, could you just describe Chernobyl to us today, what is it like?

DR. JEFF PATTERSON: Well, it’s an area 30 kilometers in circumference that is totally out of bounds to humans. And no crops are grown there. Some people have moved back in. Large areas of the earth has been scraped off, trees cut down. And all of that earth has been buried in trenches. And now, as they are attempting to build the new sarcophagus, they’re finding high levels of radiation in the ground with machinery that was buried immediately in the area. There are graveyards with tanks, buses, machines, that are highly radioactive, that are just sitting out in the open air. And interestingly enough, a recent report showed that the cesium levels around Chernobyl and in this zone and other zones have not diminished in the way that they predicted that they would. And so, they don’t know whether this is coming from cesium that’s coming up through the soil, whether it’s perhaps coming from new cesium that’s being blown into the area.

But clearly, the unknowns are far greater than the knowns in all of this. And this is an experiment that we’re carrying out with the unknowing and unconsenting irradiation of huge populations of people around the world. We’re now seeing, for example, in Japan, raising the bar, allowing children to be exposed to levels of radiation that previously were restricted for nuclear workers. And in my opinion, this is unconscionable. It’s like being in a ball game and in the seventh inning deciding that one team is losing, and so they say they’re going to change the rules in the middle of the game. These levels were set for a reason. And that’s because radiation is not good for you, and there is no safe level of radiation. And so, to now change the rules of the game, again, is another unconscionable part of this terrible, cruel, poisonous experiment that we won’t know the end result of for hundreds of years.

AMY GOODMAN: Dr. Jeff Patterson, thank you so much for being with us, immediate past president—

DR. JEFF PATTERSON: Thank you.

AMY GOODMAN:—of Physicians for Social Responsibility, which is holding a news conference today to release a new report.

#4578

From: "Virato" <virato@...>
Date: Sat Apr 16, 2011 6:14 pm
Subject: About Gordn Piland

virato

Please make contact with this person and ask him some questions.

He is available. Ask him about Sacred Geometry and Sacred herbs for body, mind and soul.

http://newfrontier.com/gordonpiland

It is most important that you say you saw his website!

Tell him code #420

#4579

From: "Virato" <virato@...>
Date: Mon Apr 11, 2011 11:59 am
Subject: Worhtwhile watching

virato

See http://www.stansberryresearch.com/pro/1103PSIEOAVD/OPSIM420/PR

#4580

From: "Virato" <virato@...>
Date: Wed Apr 27, 2011 9:39 pm
Subject: Fw: Update on Kevin Innes by Jason Pratt

virato

Please support the release of KEVIN INNES, after being kept locked-up without bail in severe conditions for TWO YEARS!!

Car pools are being set up to be at this event THIS FRIDAY, APRIL 27,8:30 AM in Charlotte, NC.

Call his wife Julia 582-9115

----- Original Message -----

From: A Spirit's Wings White Doves

To: Virato

Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 3:32 PM

Subject: Fw: Update on Kevin Innes by Jason Pratt

Hello, I wanted to share the great news with you now as we await one more hearing involving Kevin's immigration bond! Below is the news.

I have a special request: Please consider coming to Charlotte, NC

29th Immigration Court, 5701 Executive Center Drive, Charlotte, 28212, 4th floor

Friday morning at 8:30am sharp... for his bond hearing. It is important we have a small audience of supporters. I need a reply asap if you and/or a friend can make it,

please call 828-582-9115,

Thank you for all you have done to support Kevin thru this difficult time.

Feel free to forward this email to anyone you know who

could possibly attend.

Julia Gaunt

Kevin Innes Update by Jason Pratt on Friday, April 22, 2011 at 12:32pm.

For those interested in the ongoing case of the "Liberty Dollar Four", here's an e-mail I received from Kevin Innes'investigator just a few minutes ago. Please share/spread the word:

Jason,

I just wanted to let you know that Kevin's case has come to a conclusion.

As you know, he was originally charged with a felony. The prosecutors then offered him a misdemeanor. Just two days ago it was dropped to a "petty offense." This is punishable by only a fine and does not constitute a "crime." It is almost as insignificant as a speeding ticket.

Of course Kevin has been in jail because this case impacted his immigration status. They originally wanted to deport him to Canada. Taking the plea offer of a petty offense DOES NOT negatively impact his immigration hearing. In fact it is most likely all will be good for him in that venue.

I wanted to make sure you knew the outcome and I wanted to thank you for your assistance. You were on our witness list and you would have been called to testify in large part because of your experience with the Liberty Dollar and your education. I truly appreciate the time you took to meet
with me in Austin.

If you have any further questions or concerns, please feel free to contact me.

Again, many thanks.

Jim Allard, Investigator
Federal Defenders of Western North Carolina, Inc.
One Page Avenue, Suite 210
Asheville, NC 28801

#4581

From: "chuckhunner" <chuck@...>
Date: Thu Apr 28, 2011 12:57 am
Subject: Coherent Video on Nuclear Energy

chuckhunner

If you love Nucular Energy, watch this video.
If you hate nuclear energy, watch this video.
http://www.youtube.com/user/jeffreyarmstrong108?feature=mhum

#4582

From: "Virato" <virato@...>
Date: Thu Apr 28, 2011 10:41 pm
Subject: Asheville Magazine Employment

virato

http://asheville.craigslist.org/sls/2351673880.html

SALES OPPORTUNITY AT ASHEVILLE MAGAZINE

#4583

From: "Virato" <virato@...>
Date: Mon May 2, 2011 5:30 pm
Subject: The Continuing Bin Laden Story

virato

Hi There,

Well, it seems time to add to America's (and the world's) fiction library. The Mystery of Bin Laden, a story writer's dream series. Spielberg eat your heart out!

As most of you know, I pretty much do not "believe" in anything.

My choice generally is to experience rather than to blindly accept from another, especially one of dubious source like organized religion or "corporate profit driven" news.

Hence, my gullibility factor is quite low.

I'm not saying one cannot find value in religious scripture. Whatever adds value to our personal spiritual growth, and to that final awareness of our true self, that some Buddhists call our "original face."

To me, and this is my point-of-view, is what really matters. Or, actually doesn't

Dhiraja and I watch no commercial media (that inlcudes PBS, NPR), and Dhiraja and I continue to add value to our lives. In the process things become clearer. Much...

I have always remained somewhat neutral politically, whatever that means, and sometimes I am almost amused by the audacity of those who claim leadership of this named United States of America, or one of the states that are united. In my case my "citizenship" in North Carolina

Do you really accept as "real" yesterday's death of Bin Laden, and his quick dismissal into the sea.

This dream writer's scenario is directly from Hollywood (who can forget Wag The Dog) then ad a Rambo or Jean Claude Vandame scenbein a Pakistani Castle, CIA Intrigue leading up to the attack, then finding that it is the Islaminc eay to bury at sea (another is that BId Laden himself requested it) Didn't Bin Laden live on a mountain desert. Oh, America didn't want an AL-Quieda shrine. (I guess this is why all the debris was taken from the Twin Towers on 9/11 and sent to Jap[an and China)?)

Ok, then how about simple cremation? No, no, the sea is so much more dramatic and sells more theatre seats. Yup.

Then for you frustrated writers, we need to have the DNA (take by a US Agency) and now catch this: a sample of the brain of Bin Laden's sister who died years ago, and was ready for US DNA use. So, he was shot by US forces, transported by US forces, and disposed of by a US agency, before a US agency took DNA samples, and sent to a US lab. I think in between this, some US agency sold someone the Brooklyn Bridge!

Hail Caesar! ...or is it Martin Scorse

Read The London Telegraph http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/pakistan/8488004/Osama-Bin-Ladens-body-identified-by-sisters-brain.html to add to America's (and the world's fiction).

And if I choose not to accept this illusion as reality, it can actually have value. Mind you, I am not glorifying dark comedy. But is is all interesting. Maybe it's time to awaken, or....

Remember, this is only my point-of-view, and I trust you hard-core new agers out there won't scorn this old guy...for his audacity.

Virato

#4584

From: "Lance Bonczkiewicz" <lanceb77@...>
Date: Mon May 2, 2011 5:43 pm
Subject: Re: ((Asheville Magazine)) The Continuing Bin Laden Story

latitude_25

Awesome article. Very well written of course.
I wonder why the sister brain thing comes out? Lol

-- Sent from my Palm Pixi

On May 2, 2011 1:30 PM, Virato <virato@...> wrote:

Hi There,

Well, it seems time to add to America's (and the world's) fiction library. The Mystery of Bin Laden, a story writer's dream series. Spielberg eat your heart out!

As most of you know, I pretty much do not "believe" in anything.

My choice generally is to experience rather than to blindly accept from another, especially one of dubious source like organized religion or "corporate profit driven" news.

Hence, my gullibility factor is quite low.

To me, and this is my point-of-view, is what really matters. Or, actually doesn't

Dhiraja and I watch no commercial media (that inlcudes PBS, NPR), and Dhiraja and I continue to add value to our lives. In the process things become clearer. Much...

Do you really accept as "real" yesterday's death of Bin Laden, and his quick dismissal into the sea.

Ok, then how about simple cremation? No, no, the sea is so much more dramatic and sells more theatre seats. Yup.

Hail Caesar! ...or is it Martin Scorse

Read The London Telegraph http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/pakistan/8488004/Osama-Bin-Ladens-body-identified-by-sisters-brain.html to add to America's (and the world's fiction).

And if I choose not to accept this illusion as reality, it can actually have value. Mind you, I am not glorifying dark comedy. But is is all interesting. Maybe it's time to awaken, or....

Remember, this is only my point-of-view, and I trust you hard-core new agers out there won't scorn this old guy...for his audacity.

Virato

#4585

From: "lightflower@..." <lightflower@...>
Date: Mon May 2, 2011 6:57 pm
Subject: Re: ((Asheville Magazine)) The Continuing Bin Laden Story

lightflower@...

I suppose if we have an updated recording from Bin Laden joking about his own death, then it's bogus.

Otherwise...I'm going to assume he's at the bottom of the sea, or some very secret place where they do things our country says they don't do.

Patti Lightflower

www.ireadhands.com

----- Original Message -----

From: Lance Bonczkiewicz

To: asheville@yahoogroups.com

Sent: 5/2/2011 2:09:55 PM

Subject: Re: ((Asheville Magazine)) The Continuing Bin Laden Story

Awesome article. Very well written of course.
I wonder why the sister brain thing comes out? Lol

-- Sent from my Palm Pixi

On May 2, 2011 1:30 PM, Virato <virato@...> wrote:

Hi There,

Well, it seems time to add to America's (and the world's) fiction library. The Mystery of Bin Laden, a story writer's dream series. Spielberg eat your heart out!

As most of you know, I pretty much do not "believe" in anything.

My choice generally is to experience rather than to blindly accept from another, especially one of dubious source like organized religion or "corporate profit driven" news.

Hence, my gullibility factor is quite low.

I'm not saying one cannot find value in religious scripture. Whatever adds value to our personal spiritual growth, and to that final awareness of our true self, that some Buddhists call our "original face."

To me, and this is my point-of-view, is what really matters. Or, actually doesn't

Dhiraja and I watch no commercial media (that inlcudes PBS, NPR), and Dhiraja and I continue to add value to our lives. In the process things become clearer. Much...

I have always remained somewhat neutral politically, whatever that means, and sometimes I am almost amused by the audacity of those who claim leadership of this named United States of America, or one of the states that are united. In my case my "citizenship" in North Carolina

Do you really accept as "real" yesterday's death of Bin Laden, and his quick dismissal into the sea.

This dream writer's scenario is directly from Hollywood (who can forget Wag The Dog) then ad a Rambo or Jean Claude Vandame scenbein a Pakistani Castle, CIA Intrigue leading up to the attack, then finding that it is the Islaminc eay to bury at sea (another is that BId Laden himself requested it) Didn't Bin Laden live on a mountain desert. Oh, America didn't want an AL-Quieda shrine. (I guess this is why all the debris was taken from the Twin Towers on 9/11 and sent to Jap[an and China)?)

Ok, then how about simple cremation? No, no, the sea is so much more dramatic and sells more theatre seats. Yup.

Then for you frustrated writers, we need to have the DNA (take by a US Agency) and now catch this: a sample of the brain of Bin Laden's sister who died years ago, and was ready for US DNA use. So, he was shot by US forces, transported by US forces, and disposed of by a US agency, before a US agency took DNA samples, and sent to a US lab. I think in between this, some US agency sold someone the Brooklyn Bridge!

Hail Caesar! ...or is it Martin Scorse

Read The London Telegraph http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/pakistan/8488004/Osama-Bin-Ladens-body-identified-by-sisters-brain.html to add to America's (and the world's fiction).

And if I choose not to accept this illusion as reality, it can actually have value. Mind you, I am not glorifying dark comedy. But is is all interesting. Maybe it's time to awaken, or....

Remember, this is only my point-of-view, and I trust you hard-core new agers out there won't scorn this old guy...for his audacity.

Virato

#4586

From: "Jean" <jeanseymour2@...>
Date: Mon May 2, 2011 6:10 pm
Subject: Re: The Continuing Bin Laden Story

jeanseymour2

--- In asheville@yahoogroups.com, "Virato" <virato@...> wrote:
>
>
> Hi There,
>
> Well, it seems time to add to America's (and the world's) fiction
> library. The Mystery of Bin Laden, a story writer's dream series.
> Spielberg eat your heart out!
>
> As most of you know, I pretty much do not "believe" in anything.
>
> My choice generally is to experience rather than to blindly accept from
> another, especially one of dubious source like organized religion or
> "corporate profit driven" news.
>
> Hence, my gullibility factor is quite low.
>
> I'm not saying one cannot find value in religious scripture. Whatever
> adds value to our personal spiritual growth, and to that final awareness
> of our true self, that some Buddhists call our "original face."
>
> To me, and this is my point-of-view, is what really matters. Or,
> actually doesn't
>
> Dhiraja and I watch no commercial media (that inlcudes PBS, NPR), and
> Dhiraja and I continue to add value to our lives. In the process things
> become clearer. Much...
>
> I have always remained somewhat neutral politically, whatever that
> means, and sometimes I am almost amused by the audacity of those who
> claim leadership of this named United States of America, or one of the
> states that are united. In my case my "citizenship" in North Carolina
>
> Do you really accept as "real" yesterday's death of Bin Laden, and his
> quick dismissal into the sea.
>
> This dream writer's scenario is directly from Hollywood (who can forget
> Wag The Dog) then ad a Rambo or Jean Claude Vandame scenbein a Pakistani
> Castle, CIA Intrigue leading up to the attack, then finding that it is
> the Islaminc eay to bury at sea (another is that BId Laden himself
> requested it) Didn't Bin Laden live on a mountain desert. Oh, America
> didn't want an AL-Quieda shrine. (I guess this is why all the debris was
> taken from the Twin Towers on 9/11 and sent to Jap[an and China)?)
>
> Ok, then how about simple cremation? No, no, the sea is so much more
> dramatic and sells more theatre seats.  Yup.
>
> Then for you frustrated writers, we need to have the DNA (take by a US
> Agency) and now catch this: a sample of the brain of Bin Laden's sister
> who died years ago, and was ready for US DNA use. So, he was shot by US
> forces, transported by US forces, and disposed of by a US agency, before
> a US agency took DNA samples, and sent to a US lab.  I think in between
> this, some US agency sold someone the Brooklyn Bridge!
>
> Hail Caesar! ...or is it Martin Scorse
>
> Read The London Telegraph
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/pakistan/8488004/Osama-Bi\
> n-Ladens-body-identified-by-sisters-brain.html
> <http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/pakistan/8488004/Osama-B\
> in-Ladens-body-identified-by-sisters-brain.html>  to add to America's
> (and the world's fiction).
>
> And if I choose not to accept this illusion as reality, it can actually
> have value.  Mind you, I am not glorifying dark comedy. But is is all
> interesting.  Maybe it's time to awaken, or....
>
> Remember, this is only my point-of-view, and I trust you hard-core new
> agers out there won't scorn this old guy...for his audacity.
>
>
>
> Virato
>
You are right.....we can really trust this government to speak the
truth......sure!
I have always heard it takes 2 or 3 weeks to get back DNA results....and
now....less than 24 hours they have it....
And no one is providing proof.....guess this government thinks we all have
"STUPID" written across our foreheads......

#4587

From: "Virato" <virato@...>
Date: Tue May 3, 2011 5:25 pm
Subject: A Video and my CIA Mission

virato

This video gives more info on my last post.

It's 9 minutes long and well worth viewing http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/1092.html

Now would be a good time to share with you my military experience with an arm of the CIA.

The year was 1958. I was deployed to the island of Malta in the middle of the Mediterranean Sea.

Below is a photo of the P2-V Neptune bomber I flew in VP-7 Anti-Submarine US Navy Squadron

http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2152100750101248806icUToG

So here's the story. It was early summer, and I flew daily missions tracking Russian submarines. all around the Mediterranean.
We also flew secret mission to other places such as Turkey, Morocco...and yes, Libya! In civilian clothes with no military related identification.

These were called "cultural familiarization missions" of simply "AIRFAMS". We were even paid hazardous duty pay and extra spending money.

These were supervised by an arm of the CIA and NSA.

One time I was asked to "volunteer" for an unusual (and hardly dangerous) mission to fly 4 cases of Jack Daniels whiskey with some other "goodies" to a Libyan Air Fore base, to be picked up by a special courier for the Royal Palace to King Idris, who was later deposed by Colonel Gaddafi.

A lot of this stuff was SECRET!

Our government (and all governments) are capable of, and DO terrible things. Not the Jack Daniels, but other things I will not share publicly, although I have alluded to during my 5 years as host of VIRATO LIVE! on Clear Channel Communications

Stay tuned... and feel free to share this all with whomever you wish

#4588

From: Tpshoe <tpshoe@...>
Date: Tue May 3, 2011 5:02 pm
Subject: Re: ((Asheville Magazine)) Re: The Continuing Bin Laden Story

mjcurtiss

More than likely, he is packed in a freezer somewhere.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jean <jeanseymour2@...>
To: asheville <asheville@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, May 2, 2011 1:41 pm
Subject: ((Asheville Magazine)) Re: The Continuing Bin Laden Story

--- In asheville@yahoogroups.com, "Virato" <virato@...> wrote:
>
>
> Hi There,
>
> Well, it seems time to add to America's (and the world's) fiction
> library. The Mystery of Bin Laden, a story writer's dream series.
> Spielberg eat your heart out!
>
> As most of you know, I pretty much do not "believe" in anything.
>
> My choice generally is to experience rather than to blindly accept from
> another, especially one of dubious source like organized religion or
> "corporate profit driven" news.
>
> Hence, my gullibility factor is quite low.
>
> I'm not saying one cannot find value in religious scripture. Whatever
> adds value to our personal spiritual growth, and to that final awareness
> of our true self, that some Buddhists call our "original face."
>
> To me, and this is my point-of-view, is what really matters. Or,
> actually doesn't
>
> Dhiraja and I watch no commercial media (that inlcudes PBS, NPR), and
> Dhiraja and I continue to add value to our lives. In the process things
> become clearer. Much...
>
> I have always remained somewhat neutral politically, whatever that
> means, and sometimes I am almost amused by the audacity of those who
> claim leadership of this named United States of America, or one of the
> states that are united. In my case my "citizenship" in North Carolina
>
> Do you really accept as "real" yesterday's death of Bin Laden, and his
> quick dismissal into the sea.
>
> This dream writer's scenario is directly from Hollywood (who can forget
> Wag The Dog) then ad a Rambo or Jean Claude Vandame scenbein a Pakistani
> Castle, CIA Intrigue leading up to the attack, then finding that it is
> the Islaminc eay to bury at sea (another is that BId Laden himself
> requested it) Didn't Bin Laden live on a mountain desert. Oh, America
> didn't want an AL-Quieda shrine. (I guess this is why all the debris was
> taken from the Twin Towers on 9/11 and sent to Jap[an and China)?)
>
> Ok, then how about simple cremation? No, no, the sea is so much more
> dramatic and sells more theatre seats. Yup.
>
> Then for you frustrated writers, we need to have the DNA (take by a US
> Agency) and now catch this: a sample of the brain of Bin Laden's sister
> who died years ago, and was ready for US DNA use. So, he was shot by US
> forces, transported by US forces, and disposed of by a US agency, before
> a US agency took DNA samples, and sent to a US lab. I think in between
> this, some US agency sold someone the Brooklyn Bridge!
>
> Hail Caesar! ...or is it Martin Scorse
>
> Read The London Telegraph
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/pakistan/8488004/Osama-Bi\
> n-Ladens-body-identified-by-sisters-brain.html
> <http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/pakistan/8488004/Osama-B\
> in-Ladens-body-identified-by-sisters-brain.html> to add to America's
> (and the world's fiction).
>
> And if I choose not to accept this illusion as reality, it can actually
> have value. Mind you, I am not glorifying dark comedy. But is is all
> interesting. Maybe it's time to awaken, or....
>
> Remember, this is only my point-of-view, and I trust you hard-core new
> agers out there won't scorn this old guy...for his audacity.
>
>
>
> Virato
>
You are right.....we can really trust this government to speak the truth......sure!
I have always heard it takes 2 or 3 weeks to get back DNA results....and now....less than 24 hours they have it....
And no one is providing proof.....guess this government thinks we all have "STUPID" written across our foreheads......

#4589

From: Norianna Diesel <noridancer@...>
Date: Thu May 5, 2011 7:18 pm
Subject: Re: ((Asheville Magazine)) Re: The Continuing Bin Laden Story

noridancer

UH... or just hell with it all. Literally my first reaction reading the newspaper as I walked into whole foods was: Uh huh... o really?... nothing rings true no where except from all of my other sources htat seem to me to be smack on. WHy are ppeeeoooppllleee so ignorantly gullible?? I am writting this in Germany now: and it is as big of a friggin deal over here as it is in NC´ #All we cAN DO IS LOVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE AND see past illusions. #

peace and light

norianna

--- On Tue, 5/3/11, Tpshoe <tpshoe@...> wrote:

From: Tpshoe <tpshoe@...>
Subject: Re: ((Asheville Magazine)) Re: The Continuing Bin Laden Story
To: asheville@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, May 3, 2011, 1:02 PM

More than likely, he is packed in a freezer somewhere.
MJ

-----Original Message-----
From: Jean <jeanseymour2@...>
To: asheville <asheville@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, May 2, 2011 1:41 pm
Subject: ((Asheville Magazine)) Re: The Continuing Bin Laden Story

--- In asheville@yahoogroups.com, "Virato" <virato@...> wrote:
>
>
> Hi There,
>
> Well, it seems time to add to America's (and the world's) fiction
> library. The Mystery of Bin Laden, a story writer's dream series.
> Spielberg eat your heart out!
>
> As most of you know, I pretty much do not "believe" in anything.
>
> My choice generally is to experience rather than to blindly accept from
> another, especially one of dubious source like organized religion or
> "corporate profit driven" news.
>
> Hence, my gullibility factor is quite low.
>
> I'm not saying one cannot find value in religious scripture. Whatever
> adds value to our personal spiritual growth, and to that final awareness
> of our true self, that some Buddhists call our "original face."
>
> To me, and this is my point-of-view, is what really matters. Or,
> actually doesn't
>
> Dhiraja and I watch no commercial media (that inlcudes PBS, NPR), and
> Dhiraja and I continue to add value to our lives. In the process things
> become clearer. Much...
>
> I have always remained somewhat neutral politically, whatever that
> means, and sometimes I am almost amused by the audacity of those who
> claim leadership of this named United States of America, or one of the
> states that are united. In my case my "citizenship" in North Carolina
>
> Do you really accept as "real" yesterday's death of Bin Laden, and his
> quick dismissal into the sea.
>
> This dream writer's scenario is directly from Hollywood (who can forget
> Wag The Dog) then ad a Rambo or Jean Claude Vandame scenbein a Pakistani
> Castle, CIA Intrigue leading up to the attack, then finding that it is
> the Islaminc eay to bury at sea (another is that BId Laden himself
> requested it) Didn't Bin Laden live on a mountain desert. Oh, America
> didn't want an AL-Quieda shrine. (I guess this is why all the debris was
> taken from the Twin Towers on 9/11 and sent to Jap[an and China)?)
>
> Ok, then how about simple cremation? No, no, the sea is so much more
> dramatic and sells more theatre seats. Yup.
>
> Then for you frustrated writers, we need to have the DNA (take by a US
> Agency) and now catch this: a sample of the brain of Bin Laden's sister
> who died years ago, and was ready for US DNA use. So, he was shot by US
> forces, transported by US forces, and disposed of by a US agency, before
> a US agency took DNA samples, and sent to a US lab. I think in between
> this, some US agency sold someone the Brooklyn Bridge!
>
> Hail Caesar! ...or is it Martin Scorse
>
> Read The London Telegraph
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/pakistan/8488004/Osama-Bi\
> n-Ladens-body-identified-by-sisters-brain.html
> <http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/pakistan/8488004/Osama-B\
> in-Ladens-body-identified-by-sisters-brain.html> to add to America's
> (and the world's fiction).
>
> And if I choose not to accept this illusion as reality, it can actually
> have value. Mind you, I am not glorifying dark comedy. But is is all
> interesting. Maybe it's time to awaken, or....
>
> Remember, this is only my point-of-view, and I trust you hard-core new
> agers out there won't scorn this old guy...for his audacity.
>
>
>
> Virato
>
You are right.....we can really trust this government to speak the truth......sure!
I have always heard it takes 2 or 3 weeks to get back DNA results....and now....less than 24 hours they have it....
And no one is providing proof.....guess this government thinks we all have "STUPID" written across our foreheads......

#4590

From: "Virato" <virato@...>
Date: Fri May 6, 2011 4:44 pm
Subject: Help with Front Page 2003 and web desoign

virato

If you do not know web stuff please pass this on to someone else...

I am having serious problems using Microsoft's Front Page 2003

It is with file http://newfrontier.com/aha/ahacaln.htm and the calendar in general.

The file is normally about 130Kb average but sometimes something happens and it approached 1 Mb (and slows down to not being functional)

While I do have Microsoft's Expression 4 and Adobe Dreamweaver, I do not know how to use these web design programs.

So I would like to stay with Front Page if possible (even though it is no longer supported by Microsoft)

I would like to have a super calendar that could be filled out by anyone to meet what I say here: http://www.newfrontier.com/aha/link-info.htm#calendar

#4591

From: "Virato" <virato@...>
Date: Sat May 7, 2011 8:09 pm
Subject: 11:11:11

virato

Someone wants info http://amazingforums.com/forum2/ASHEVILLE1/218.html