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Gay rights and hoax of self-determination   Message List  
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Re: Gay rights and hoax of self-determination

A very intelligent interpretation by Sh Agnveer ji of the case as it is being
implemented step by step and as has been initiated by the Delhi High Court, and
the resultant effects that shall emerge in future. I think further statistical
study of its after effects is highly desirable, because this step is a leap
forward towards the imminent downfall of Human Race.


--- In aryasamajonline@yahoogroups.com, Agniveer <agniveer@...> wrote:
>
> Namaste
>
> The recent judgment of Delhi High Court legalizing homosexuality amply
> demonstrates the myopic and tunnel vision of our judges. God save this
> nation if this is the level of our legislatures, executives and
> judiciary. The whole argument hinges on 2 points:
> a. Right of self-determination
> b. Constitutional morality being more important than public morality
>
> Let us analyse both in more details:
>
> Right of self-determination:
> The judges seem to be hell-bent that freedom regardless of sex means
> freedom regardless of sexual orientation. Nothing can be more
> misleading:
> a. Sex is birth-determined. Sexual orientation is mind-determined.
> Normal people will always be heterosexual (refer my previous postings
> how modern science has discredited the born-gay theory). Perverted
> people can be gay. Thus they require either mental rehabilitation or
> quarantine depending upon severity of the case.
> b. I know there would be many supporters of prostitution citing same
> logic of self-determination. But taking it a step further, should
> incest and cannibalism be also not legalized if we value self-
> determination.
> c. Why do we restrict actions of certain people in mental hospitals.
> Let them also act and behave in way they want on pretext of self-
> determination, if they do not physically trouble others.
> d. No one has ever been able to prove that homosexuality is not a
> mental disease. Till early nineties, this was the belief of American
> Psychiatric Association. The view was changed not after any
> scientific study, but after a vote where pro-gay received marginally
> more votes than conservatives. Ever since dawn of civilization,
> homosexuality has been regarded as a diseased mental condition and no
> study, apart from mere increase in number of homosexuals owing to
> heightened sexual propaganda in society, has ever been able to prove
> the contrary.
> e. In case gay-ism is not a mental disease, the same would be case
> with 90% of mental diseases for which people are put in mental
> hospital. Let then all harmlessly insane people have right to self-
> determination. Thus we should respect someone who eats up his own hand
> in privacy, or two consenting adults among whom one chooses to die
> (mind you: suicide is also not illegal!) and other decides to eat him,
> or those who relish flesh of dead humans, or enjoy animal sex or host
> of other disorders.
>
>
> Constitutional morality vs Public morality
>
> Citing Nehru often, which shows the penchant of judges for Nehru
> ideology, the judges conclude that constitutional morality should
> precede everything. Nothing can be a more deceptive statement:
> a. How was constitution formed. It did not fell out of heaven. Instead
> it was created by humans. And like humans, any work of humans is probe
> to errors and demands revision over time.
> b. What judges call as public morality is nothing but prevailing
> standards of right behavior which have crystallized over centuries,
> and are based on sound logic and reason. Thus, homosexuality has been
> a taboo across the world regardless of region, religion or faith. The
> logic is obvious - it is against nature and serves no purpose.
> Indulgence in anything which is against nature, purposeless and merely
> based on a deviant mindset, can only lead to further perversion and
> should be discouraged. Thus commonsense thinking based on reason, what
> judges term as 'public morality' precdes anything including
> 'constitutional morality'. In fact constitution should be interpreted
> based on such reasonability as embedded in public morality.
> c. Judges go too far to interpret sex to mean sexual orientation. They
> refer to huge number of cases in western countries. However they fail
> to cite one single evidence from any scientific study or history that
> can prove that homosexuality is not a perverted behavior. Obviously
> they have to fail in this because there exist none.
>
> Judges would be the worst people to decide on matters of society and
> ethics and morality. Unfortunately these matters hinge on
> effectiveness of law which is at mercy of such judges. Judges tend to
> have tunnel vision restricted to their own belief system and study of
> a constitution or set of laws. They are far deviated from scientific
> analyses and holistic scrutiny. Thus we find many judgments to be
> completely reversed.
>
> What has changed?
>
> There has been no single reason or fact or evidence that has come up
> in last 20-30 years that can explain why the same set of laws and same
> set of legal principles that existed for last 150 years are now
> interpreted completely opposite. The same values of truth, justice,
> freedom were to be upheld then and same is true today. But then
> homosexuality was a crime or madness but the same is not the case today.
>
> If any new piece of evidence or change has come, they are only
> following:
> a. The propaganda of sex as tool of marketing has increased multifold,
> thanks to various forms of communication channels that technology has
> provided.
> b. The number of homosexuals lobbying for their perversion has
> increased thanks to factor a. above
> c. There has been significant spurt in sex-related diseases like HIV/
> AIDS which have strong correlation with homosexuality. The disease is
> supposed to have originated from activists of 'Right of Self
> Determination' who got into animal sex with monkeys and then indulged
> in homosexuality. Believers of animal-sex and homosexuality are
> considered the founders of HIV/AIDS!
> d. It has been proven beyond doubt in host of studies that homosexuals
> show highest incidence of HIV/AIDS. The very nature of their intimate
> act of 'self-determination' puts them in greatest risk for
> transmission of AIDS. Further since homosexual partners rarely follow
> 'monogamy' they prove to be the primary carriers of AIDS/HIV.
>
> Thus in summary, the recent High Court judgment will lead to:
> a. More transmission of HIV/AIDS and hence more option for social
> activists supporting 'Right of self determination' to provide
> information on AIDS prevention.
> b. Destruction of moral values and foundation of an already weakening
> population.
> c. Especially for Hindus, this will act as yet another dose of cocaine
> that renders them helpless to fight the challenges that time and
> situations have put before us.
>
> Let us discover the truth and fight falsehood in every possible way.
>
> Om
> Agniveer
>
>
>
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> Agniveer
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> http://www.agniveer.com
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