There are many quality art ed schools around the country.  Do you want to
move?

Of course I am prejudice towards my own program (Northern AZ University,
Flagstaff), but there's Penn State, University of Texas, University of North
Texas, the Ohio State University, of FL at Gainesville to name a few.

If you are thinking of continuing later with grad work, it is usually better
to complete undergrad in one place and graduate in another.

Pam




----- Original Message -----
From: "wendy_z77" <wednesdayorleans@...>
To: <art_education@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 3:09 PM
Subject: [art_education] Re: Anyone? Anyone?


> I started out as an Art Ed major in NC back in 1995, and now I am
> considering returning to school to finish what I started.
>
> I have an AAS and some certificates, but no bachelors, so it would
> have to be undergrad.
>
> THANKS for your help!
>
> "Pam" <pgstephens@n...> wrote:
> > Are you looking for an undergrad pre-service program?  Grad
> school?  A place
> > to teach?
> >
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Dear Art Educators,

I know you folks don't get into the etymology of words as much as I do
(smile).
But just in case you want to do a lesson on names and their meaning....
Here is the Behind the Names - Surnames (limited list):
http://surnames.behindthename.com/
Also see About .com (Limited list of names)
http://genealogy.about.com/library/surnames/bl_meaning.htm
I just happened across these two sites looking for the meaning of a friend's
last name - found my own too.

This is the first name site:
http://www.behindthename.com/

There are good sites for Islamic/Muslim names, too.

For folks who DO like the word origins...Microsoft Encarta Dictionary is an
excellent source. I don't even have a hard copy dictionary in my office
anymore. Encarta even has the origin of many "naughty" words.

I liked doing art about words.

Judy Decker - Ohio
Incredible Art Department
http://www.princetonol.com/groups/iad/
Incredible Art Resources
http://www.princetonol.com/groups/iad/lessons/middle/

Skutt makes a variety of wonderful glass kilns that will fire all
three...check them out http://www.skutt.com

Creatively, Linda

Linda W. Kieling
Art Educator
OAEA Youth Art Month Chair
Rosemont Ridge Middle School
20001 Salamo Road
West Linn, OR 97068
503.673.7591
503.657.8720 fax
www.rrms.wlwv.k12.or.us/KielingL/Artindex.htm


>>> shinds227@... 4/3/2004 5:14:50 AM >>>

   Dear Art Ed Friends,

   Is there one kiln that can be used for glass fusing,
   bottle slumping and Precious Metal Clay ?

   I have never worked in any of these areas, but would
   like to give them all a try.

   Thank you in advance for your help.

   Sharon




Yahoo! Groups Links

*Following are some links that may be helpful:

Bainbridge College, The Division of Arts and Sciences
<http://artschools.com/cgi-bin/trk.cgi?http://www.bbc.peachnet.edu/academics/art\
s_sci/pro_stu.htm>*
2500 E. Shotwell St.
Bainbridge, GA 31717, US
(912) 248-2560    Fax: (912) 248-2589

University of Florida
http://www.arts.ufl.edu/ART/arted.html

The University of Georgia Lamar Dodd School of Art
http://www.visart.uga.edu/html/arted.php?getLinks=getTopPrograms&getContent=getP\
rograms&contentValue=1

Links to Georgia art schools
http://www.a2zcolleges.com/arts/georgia.html

Links to Florida art schools
http://www.a2zcolleges.com/arts/florida.html

Ken
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>   Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2004 01:28:05 -0000
>   From: "wendy_z77" <wednesdayorleans@...>
>Subject: Anyone in GA/FL or studied Art Ed online?
>
>I have searched and searched and can't seem to find any good online
>groups related to art education.  I have some questions...
>
>Can anyone tell me which schools in Southeastern GA and Northeastern
>FL offers Art Ed degrees?
>
>What online schools offer Art Ed degrees?
>
>THANKS!
>
>

Marvelous Monday!

Wow! Ken just told me our membership is growing!
Lurk all you want then when you need something introduce yourself.
DO sign with at least first name - tell us grade levels you teach, too.
I am judging what to add to Incredible Art Department by the activity on
THIS list. I still "work" for you (grin).
I am your webmaster for YOUR site. Ken Rohrer developed Incredible Art
Department (history is on IAD)..... I took it over in February 2003 and gave
it new life...Plus added my own site to it: "Incredible Art Resources".
I just found out today that I HAVE to get your messages as they are posted.
My digest was cut off and now I have to read the rest of the messages the
hard way - on the site. I have to see what InKleined2Blue had to say.

Get your kiddies thinking! I will tell you how I dealt with offensive
student art once. The kids loved it! Sometime kids need to offend -- so let
them - especially middle school kids! They will love you for it and will
respect you and will honor you sometime (mine did -- and I will tell you the
whole story 'cause it is a good one!

Judy Decker - Ohio
Incredible Art Department
http://www.princetonol.com/groups/iad/
Incredible Art Resources
http://www.princetonol.com/groups/iad/lessons/middle/

Dear Art Educators,

Art Video World, 1-800-644-3429. This is a division of Crystal Productions.
It has all videos that Crystal does....But is real Eye Candy. Get it for
some great reading - and visual pictures of the videos. 55 pages of fun!

You buy three videos and get one FREE.....DO check prices elsewhere (like
Sax and Library Video) if you only need one or two videos....just make sure
you are getting the best deal per video you buy. I came out short on
Teacher's Video Company.
I am ordering my first four soon to preview and share back with you all. I
really want to see the I Can Fly and some other new ones.
Those of you who like the Peggy Flores videos - she has two new ones, now:
Paper Mosaics and Paper Sculpture.

Note you have to select from certain videos for the bonus one.

Well....NOW I can start to design a web site for "Forget Me Not Greenhouse
and Nursery".....

Judy Decker - Ohio
Incredible Art Department
http://www.princetonol.com/groups/iad/
Incredible Art Resources
http://www.princetonol.com/groups/iad/lessons/middle/

Dear Art Educators,

Middle school years are good years to "correct" errors in their thinking
towards art (grades 5 thru 8). Those are the years when they start to think
they "suck" at art - am I right? And they screw around to get attention.
Well.... I have deliberately written about two "naughty" subjects on the
lists...politics and religion (since in many ways I am still in middle
school)....I do apologize to all (big smile). So I have written about my
reasons.... and I have been warned (smiles).

My art is all about religion too - AND my new art will be about religion I
just can't help it. My Celestial Family mixed media has many religions
represented (and I told the kids about it too - because meaning of art is
important. I had to get it across to them why I wouldn't sell that work even
if someone offered me a million dollars for it -VALUING ART)....My Personal
Shrine does, too (and I told my high school kids about it)....and so do many
others (even Galileo! I know what all of the collage says.)....
The art on my walls (sculptures too) is about religion, too.
http://www.princetonol.com/groups/iad/lessons/middle/my-art.htm

ABOUT KIDS:

Anyways to the point now....the idea of assigning an alternate writing
project for the naught boys and girls came up on Getty list.... This is what
I did. What works for YOU?

I have been thinking about this thread....I haven't had
time to read all yet. Writing about the
misbehavior is/was my way of dealing with things. The
only time I took materials away from kids is when we
did clay...I took clay away when they threw it....and
each time I had a "martyr" - one boy who took the
punishment for all the boys (girls too at times).
Usually only ONE would admit at the time. The others
would admit to it the NEXT trimester....and I would
always say "Did you thank so and so? (name of kid) Do
it -- because I will ask him if you did" I needed to
do a punishment that made the kids feel just a tad bit
"guilty"....I found out such wonderful things about
kids and why they misbehaved and who and what
triggered it when I had them write in "their own
words". If they didn't want to write in "their own
words" - I had the writing assignment they had to copy
(and I highlighted the parts that were most important
for them). The "clay martyrs" never gave up anyone
else. I was lucky and only had three or four in 12
years....BUT each time it gave me a chance to tell
what a martyr is/was. Clay was the "good earth" and I
demanded respect for the earth.
That was the one medium I went out of my way for each
child to complete. I have good stories.... I have
posted some of them before. Oh and I have a real
horror story about what happened when the office
wouldn't let me punish one kid (his mom wouldn't
punish him either)....I don't think I will write about
that one. He is in jail now anyways...so I guess he is
getting "punished" now...He did NOT live his name at
all!

Folks I have been "naughty" again in my posts.... I
write about my misbehaviors all the time. My art is
all about religion....I should take more
pictures...and just give you the option of being
offended by reading my stories about them.

Marvelous Monday. "Feed your Fish" (Fish - means
wisdom and knowledge).

Judy Decker

P.S. "in their own words" Chuckling now because of a
George Carlin routine. No one has ownership to
words....they are everyone's words who speak the
language. He did a short spiel using "his own words"
and just his expressions to go with them was such a
hoot! I had fun looking up George Carlin's naughty
words in my Encarta Dictionary

Judy Decker - Ohio
Incredible Art Department
http://www.princetonol.com/groups/iad/
Incredible Art Resources
http://www.princetonol.com/groups/iad/lessons/middle/

On Monday, April 5, 2004, at 06:36 AM, Ken Rohrer wrote:

> *Following are some links that may be helpful:
>
> Bainbridge College, The Division of Arts and Sciences
> <http://artschools.com/cgi-bin/trk.cgi?http://www.bbc.peachnet.edu/
> academics/arts_sci/pro_stu.htm>*
> 2500 E. Shotwell St.
> Bainbridge, GA 31717, US
> (912) 248-2560    Fax: (912) 248-2589
>
> University of Florida
> http://www.arts.ufl.edu/ART/arted.html
>
> The University of Georgia Lamar Dodd School of Art
> http://www.visart.uga.edu/html/
> arted.php?getLinks=getTopPrograms&getContent=getPrograms&contentValue=1
>
> Links to Georgia art schools
> http://www.a2zcolleges.com/arts/georgia.html
>
> Links to Florida art schools
> http://www.a2zcolleges.com/arts/florida.html
>
> Ken
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> -------------------
>
>>   Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2004 01:28:05 -0000
>>   From: "wendy_z77" <wednesdayorleans@...>
>> Subject: Anyone in GA/FL or studied Art Ed online?
>>
>> I have searched and searched and can't seem to find any good online
>> groups related to art education.  I have some questions...
>>
>> Can anyone tell me which schools in Southeastern GA and Northeastern
>> FL offers Art Ed degrees?
>>
>> What online schools offer Art Ed degrees?
>>
>> THANKS!
>>
>>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>


-----
Jóhanna Þ. Ingimarsdóttir
Logafold 168
s. 567 1042

(Note for Tony - I don't know if you caught this on Getty list....Lots of
Science in the WebExhibits site...I am wondering if making their own colored
chalks or some of their paint would be a good idea now? That would combine
math and science. I will see if Dan Cherney is willing to help with a
lesson - Actually -HE would be a super choice for a teacher for you! I don't
know if he is available for travel though).

Dear Art Educators,

Here is a topic that started on Art Education list -- then wandered over to
Getty list like magic!
You don't all get my words of wisdom (Phew - that's a relief)....but you
will get this grand site:
http://webexhibits.org/
http://webexhibits.org/causesofcolor/
http://webexhibits.org/colorart/
http://webexhibits.org/pigments/
and WHITE intro - Nice Kandinsky quote
http://webexhibits.org/pigments/indiv/color/whites.html
Here is titanium:
Strongest, most brilliant white available to artists in the entire history
of art. Its chemical stability is likewise outstanding.
http://webexhibits.org/pigments/indiv/overview/tiwhite.html

Linked on:
http://www.princetonol.com/groups/iad/lessons/middle/arted.htm#Color
And now linked on, too:
http://www.princetonol.com/groups/iad/lessons/middle/color2.htm

Woody wrote: (He is on Art Education and ArtsEducators too)

As well as explaining the various types of color theory:
Light / RBG    Pigment / RYB    Photography / YMC
Reflective light and the many different temperatures of
white light: Sunlight, Flood lamps, Tungsten, Fluorescent, etc.
I also try to impress on students the difference between
Theory and Practice. They need to realize and experience
how things are suppose to work and how they really do
in the real world.
					 Woody in KC

"Fields, Linda" wrote (she is on Art Education too)
>
> I, too, explain black and white in terms of both science (light) and
art(pigment) because even high school kids get confused, especially
when they take physical science, photography, and scientific visualization
(computer stuff). I bring in a prism and pure pigment. I explain that
pigment is solid coloring matter-it has weight and mass and can be held
in their hands. Light cannot. However, I also go on to explain that,
although white is not on the color wheel, in pigment study it is treated
like a primary color because we cannot mix any others to create it-we
must have white pigment. Linda in NC
-----------------------------------------------------
Thanks Woody and Linda! Enjoy showing all how Art is Science! Earth science
was my favorite science - all of the minerals - then biology - then
chemistry...physics was OK, too - but I didn't get into that too much (that
was more for Matthew). File this in your Art and Science Folder.

Judy Decker - Ohio
Incredible Art Department
http://www.princetonol.com/groups/iad/
Incredible Art Resources
http://www.princetonol.com/groups/iad/lessons/middle/

----- Original Message -----

From: smjahnle@...

To: art_education@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 12:35 PM

Subject: Re: [art_education] List your Middle School Kid Art Motivators

You could have heard a pin drop in my 7th and 8th grade classes recently; they were concentrating so hard!  Pencil value studies: Took a b & w magazine photo, cut it in half, and asked the students to draw the other half in ebony pencil.  Another day they used watercolor washes of one color (black, brown, and blues worked best) to recreate their b & w photos.  In both cases, we did value gradation scales first.  Even had them use tempera paint 0 only black and white) and see how many shades of grays they could mix.  Sandy J

Dear Art Educators,

This question always comes up --and did come up again on Art Education list.
Some schools have taken away art teachers "fair use" an REQUIRE them to get
permission to show all images they put in a PowerPoint. Legally you ARE
allowed to put up to five (or six?) images from a site/artist without asking
permission...AND you have free use of that PowerPoint in your classroom for
one year (I may be foggy on this now). I did all of my Copyright research in
the fall...and I am an old lady now so am allowed to forget. Someone look it
up and correct me if you want....but I am warning you my head was
spinning....reading all of the ins and outs. I will look it up again if no
one else does.

What is means and does not mean:
You can show it in your classroom - You can not sell it....You need
permission for a convention or public showing (I think)....You may not put
images on a web site without permission (that IS publishing). For any
official publication you DO need permission. Now if you need more than five
or six images? Choose someone who is dead....I don't care if I offend dead
people. I am only emailing living artists.

I have been emailing artists for 3 months for all of you. If you find an
artist linked on my site and you are not sure if I have emailed them yet -
ASK me! I have a file for all of the permission to use images for teachers
around the world.
Teachers who need proof can ask me for the specific email granting
permission. Why have I done this? Because one silly artist took away our
fair use and I refuse to even go to his site ever again nor will I mention
his name. Some dollmakers took away our fair use too --and I will never
mention their names either. All of the dollmakers I have posted DO give
permission to use them work - and I have many more to add.

Judy Decker - Ohio
Incredible Art Department
http://www.princetonol.com/groups/iad/
Incredible Art Resources
http://www.princetonol.com/groups/iad/lessons/middle/

----- Original Message -----

From: Judy Decker

To: art_education@yahoogroups.com ; World Art Teachers ; ArtsEducators

Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 2:14 PM

Subject: [art_education] Value study lesson - Someone try this an report back (please)

Greetings all Art Educators,

 

Middle School Motivators came up on Getty list -- and made it to the other lists. I really like these two skill builder lessons that Sandy and Pam posted....Now I am posting a challenge to take the project one step further....Do the square or rectangle on black paper (quality paper if you have it) - and extend the composition using Primascolors and those crayola metallic pencils....Here are two drawings I love that I found (for your eyes only right now):

http://www.princetonol.com/groups/iad/prisma.htm

I will find the name of the artist and share in a post tomorrow. She is really a wonderful ceramics artist. Patty Knott sent her to me.

 

Look how they even have the sheen of a magazine image....They square or rectangle would be hard to find (Michal's camouflage lesson). What if the new scape becomes Surreal? If anyone takes the challenge just post one image on IAD for us (send to me) - or put on your own site.

Pam - I am doing this on purpose for you to share with your student. I remember the lessons from last fall (grin). "Stretch the lesson. What more can you do?" I know middlers like fantasy and surreal....and Impression/post Impressionism...another sample coming soon (from me!). Help her add "heart" to the lesson . The lesson is very good for head and hands (I like to see heart too --smile)....I am not being critical and you know that.

 

Judy

----- Original Message -----
From: Pam
Subject: Re: [art_education] List your Middle School Kid Art Motivators

I just observed a value study lesson that one of my student teachers presented.  This was to a group of high school Art I students. 

After making value charts with chalks, students then applied the concepts they'd learned by creating an ideal landscape.  First a photographic landscape was located in a magazine.  The photographic landscapes had to demonstrate how colors make objects appear to advance/recede.  Students then picked the most interesting portion of the landscape photo and cut it into a square or rectangle of no more than about 4" x 5".  The cut-out was glued to a larger piece of drawing paper and students completed the image in an "ideal" way while also showing value ranges of key colors. 

The finished products were amazingly beautiful and inventive while still being a value study.

Pam

----- Original Message -----
From: smjahnle@...
Subject: Re: [art_education] List your Middle School Kid Art Motivators

You could have heard a pin drop in my 7th and 8th grade classes recently; they were concentrating so hard!  Pencil value studies: Took a b & w magazine photo, cut it in half, and asked the students to draw the other half in ebony pencil.  Another day they used watercolor washes of one color (black, brown, and blues worked best) to recreate their b & w photos.  In both cases, we did value gradation scales first.  Even had them use tempera paint -- only black and white) and see how many shades of grays they could mix.  Sandy J

Dear Art Educators,

Art Educators list has already seen this link:
http://dese.mo.gov./artgallery/artgallery.html
Department of Elementary and Secondary Education has invited public schools
throughout Missouri to submit samples of their students' artwork. It is
displayed in the office and on the site.

Check out this fine work for ideas for pattern and design...lots of
imagination from these kiddies.
You can Stop/start the show to see each piece longer.

Thanks for sharing it Roberta (Robert Dunkel is on Arts Educators list).

World list - Do any of you have web sites? We would all like to see that art
work.
I know I saw a lot of great ideas on the site Luc shared.

Judy Decker - Ohio
Incredible Art Department
http://www.princetonol.com/groups/iad/
Incredible Art Resources
http://www.princetonol.com/groups/iad/lessons/middle/

Dear Art Educators,

I sent some folks Symbolism of Flowers - not sure if I sent it to the
lists (senior moment now)....Here is nice easy list (copied):
http://www.wedsiteusa.com/planning/articles/symbolism.htm

"To add special meaning ...... consult the following list of ancient
flower symbolisms compiled by John Parkinson, a 17th century herbalist.
While a rose by any other name might smell as sweet, isn't it nice to know
that roses, themselves, mean love and unity?"

       Calla lily- beauty
       Chrysanthemum - prosperity, abundance
       Daisy - innocence
       Forget-me-not - true love
       Gardenia - hidden love
       Honeysuckle - faithfulness Ivy - fidelity
       Lavendar - devotion
       Lily of the Valley - purity, happiness
       Orchid - beauty
       Rose - love and unity
       Stephanotis - happiness in marriage
       Tulip - passion
       Violet - loyalty
       White Carnation - remembrance

       Traditional Meanings of Flowers

       Amaryllis: Pride
       Apple blossom: Hope, good fortune
       Blue Violet: Modesty, faithfulness
       Bluebells: Constancy
       Blue periwinkle: Friendship
       Bellflower: Gratitude
       Camellia: Loveliness
       Carnation: Distinction
       Daisy: Innocence
       Forget-me-not: Remembrance
       Honeysuckle: Devoted affection
       Ivy: Fidelity
       Larkspur: Laughter
       Lily: Majesty
       Marigold: Affection
       Mimosa: Secret love
       Myrtle: Love and remembrance
       Orchid: Rare beauty
       Orange Blossoms: Purity or fertility
       Peony: Bashfulness
       Red chrysanthemum: Love
       Red Rose: Passion
       Red tulip: Declaration
       Rosemary: Remembrance
       Violet: Modesty
       White rose: Worthiness
       Wood sorrel: Maternal love
       Yellow tulip: Hopeless love

Those who I sent the other lists to can mush them together. I am filing this
with Art/Science. My lily that I am about to draw means Majesty! I didn't
buy a white one - mine is real pretty- pink (Oriental hubby said). My fish
needs to be swimming around my Lily in my drawings.... Surreal/Georgia I
guess. You get to make your own meanings...I won't tell. My sample that I
did at school had a lily and a fish too (I didn't tell the meaning it had
for me). Well.... I do like the meaning of my wedding flowers.
I just picked them to match the fabrics...and I liked the colors.

Judy Decker - Ohio
Incredible Art Department
http://www.princetonol.com/groups/iad/
Incredible Art Resources
http://www.princetonol.com/groups/iad/lessons/middle

In response to the member who is looking for good Art Ed programs, don't
forget Kutztown University in PA and Marywood University in Scranton, PA!
Kutztown, (my alma mater) has had many art ed gurus among its faculty, real
grass roots people. Included in this list are Eldon Katter of School Arts mag,
and Mary Erickson of the Getty Institute.

I agree with Stephc418, I got my BFA from Kutztown and it is a great school.
Now I live in the northwestern area of Pennsylvania-Edinboro University has
a great program also...and one of the top programs in animation.
----- Original Message -----
From: "stephc418" <stephc418@...>
To: <art_education@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 4:57 AM
Subject: [art_education] Good Art Ed Programs


> In response to the member who is looking for good Art Ed programs, don't
> forget Kutztown University in PA and Marywood University in Scranton, PA!
> Kutztown, (my alma mater) has had many art ed gurus among its faculty,
real
> grass roots people. Included in this list are Eldon Katter of School Arts
mag,
> and Mary Erickson of the Getty Institute.
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

Sorry - I don't remember who asked - so I am posting to the list.....

>> In response to the member who is looking for good Art Ed programs

I have been thinking about this...YOU can make ANY college or university
into a good art ed program. It is all about what you take to the table and
what you want to get out of it. The BEST art ed program I got was from
Bluffton College doing my Masters in just "Education". I really honed in my
own philosophy for Art Ed even more.

All you have to do is make yourself aware of the players in all of the
"alphabet". If you show knowledge in what they are teaching - they will
allow you to develop your own way. I know it. Here is the list I know of so
far - Please add on folks to what is current. I have a hard time keeping up
with it all.

TAB Choice Based Art Ed (old way was Individualized Instruction)
See Knowldege Loom Web site for this.
Differentiated Art Education (still Individualized Instruction - but this is
geared more for Inclusion - Special Ed has been mainstreamed into art
classes for as far back as I can remember - yet were WE trained for it? Be
honest - I learned more in one grad class on general Assessment strategies
than in all of my art ed classes)

Discipline Based Art Education (DBAE - not as popular today but why? - think
about it - What went "wrong" Did it bring the respect that Art demanded? Or
did it just bring more art into the regular classroom making a separate art
class unnecessary in minds of administrators? My school had many DBAE
trained core teachers -- Art is no longer offered -- and it is NOT my
fault).

Visual Culture Art Education (DBAE with added elements of all visual media)

Brain Based Art Education (how different is this really?)

Multicultural Art Education (do this mixed with the other theories)

COMPREHENSIVE ART EDUCATION (This is Gardener's Multiple Intelligences)

I Picked my art ed school based on the studio classes the school offered. Of
the three school I visited, Bowling Green State University in Ohio had teh
best studio. (I checked out Miami and Kent, too -- my mom liked Miami for me
because of the architecture - LOL. My brother went to Kent - so she was
happy then).

This is the first time I have "jumped in" on the topic of good art ed
schools -- and good art schools.
YOU - the STUDENT can make just about any school a good school. Yes some
schools are more "prestigioius" by name -- and you pay out the nose for
those. What is more convenient and more economical for you?

My son is going to Ohio University - not a prestigious school per se for
Mechanical Engineering. He was Validictorian in his graduating classs and
OU gave him the most money ..... plus he could use his Ohio Scholarship
there - he could not at teh out of state school that had more bells and
whistles for him. He is happy with OUR choice...and he is making is a
GREAT school for him. Sure there was "scuttle butt" among his teachers,
"Why is Matt going to to OU?" He did get accepted in the bigger schools
- they just "cost a house" per year - and the scholarships weren't as high
(proportionately).


----- Original Message -----
From: stephc418
To: art_education@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 4:57 AM
Subject: [art_education] Good Art Ed Programs


In response to the member who is looking for good Art Ed programs, don't
forget Kutztown University in PA and Marywood University in Scranton, PA!
Kutztown, (my alma mater) has had many art ed gurus among its faculty, real
grass roots people. Included in this list are Eldon Katter of School Arts
mag,
and Mary Erickson of the Getty Institute.

(Ken - I will get your questioned answered - It is a good one)

       Mike this is a question I think everyone would like to have answered.
       Post your response to the list and I will get it to ArtsEducators list
for them

       Here are the links again:
       http://artsandactivities.com/Page/Itworks/A039946a.html

       http://artsandactivities.com/Page/Itworks/A039946b.html

       There are others, too

       http://artsandactivities.com/Page/Itworks/ItWorks.html

       From:  Bicyclken@...
       Date:  Tue Apr 6, 2004  9:01 am
       Subject:  Re: [ArtsEducators] Prisma Colors on Black with foil tooling

       In a message dated 4/5/2004 7:52:27 PM Pacific Standard Time,
       JDecker@... writes:
       http://www.myschoolonline.com/page/0,1871,6775-205612-4-76076,00.html
       These are very nice. I really like the colors with the black foil
tooling and
       the way they incorporated the back grounds with the center pieces.
Tell me
       Mike, How did you get them to start their designs and the motivation
behind
       these pieces? I think they are very exceptional for any age or level.

       Ken Schwab

       Art teacher: Leigh High School
       San Jose CA
       web site: http://www.room3art.com

       (Ken - now your URL is hyperlinked - it was missing the // marks. That
souls make it work in all email postings now)


Judy Decker - Ohio
Incredible Art Department
http://www.princetonol.com/groups/iad/
Incredible Art Resources
http://www.princetonol.com/groups/iad/lessons/middle/

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To: art_education@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 6:24 PM

Subject: Re: [art_education] Mike Sacco - Foil Tooling Question

 

Ken, I really appreciate the feedback and I've always enjoyed your students' work as well.

 

I really appreciate the compliments on my students' work. I've done it two quarters now and I'm not sure if I will again because many did not care for it very much. I will have to see if I can find out why. I should also add that I did boost up the contrast on these a bit for the website, so although they are beautiful they are a little less punchy in real life.

   As for my motivation and approach, the perceived "coolness" of the medium had them hooked right away. Of course I talked about and showed them examples of relief. They had to create a dozen or so patterns on scrap paper using pencil first. Then I had them practice on foil scraps a bit and try to translate their patterns to the foil. Some did this and others merely started creating new patterns on the foil.

    Then to start the actual piece of foil I focused on rhythm and unity by reminding them to repeat shapes, patterns and lines in different part of their foil design. I recommend starting in a corner or on a side and to create a pattern they liked.  Personally, I didn't create my own sample this way but after the first time I found that they would just float elements in the center in a very disconnected way. So, the second time I asked them to build from a corner or a side and just keep adding to it. I also stressed to repeat patterns, shapes, etc. during the course of filling up the foil.

     Next, the designs were india inked and steel wooled.

     Next, I cut mats  for them and they mounted the work. We did value color pencil worksheets. They then had to continue the foil design onto the matte using color pencils. I stressed the use of brighter colors and to overlay or underlay white prisma in many places to give the designs punch.

   I really love these, but maybe it's the non-objective nature that turned some kids off. Or maybe the amount of work. I"m not sure. Anyway I hope I answered the questions and I've enclosed my rubric if anyone is interested.

 

mike sacco

Dear Art Educators,

I just don't surf for ideas...I never have (until I started looking for
ideas for YOU - grin).
Michael Gerrish sent me this link:
http://artsandactivities.com/Page/Itworks/ItWorks.html
Here is proof that Art Teacher minds work alike. I did MANY of these lesson
ideas myself - but I came up with them on my own - so they had me in them
and my messages in them.

Mike Sacco - here is someone else who did my watercolor landscapes (I am
just calling them mine for fun - cause I did them first):
http://artsandactivities.com/Page/Itworks/A109238a.html
My kiddles' work had more of an landscape to it --and salt was only one
technique they tried. We had about six different techniques that I covered.
See the two example on the It Works link above, too. I have done this with
3rd (resource center) thru sixth with great success.

Here is the original lesson where Mike got his idea for the Foil
tooling/colored mat:
http://artsandactivities.com/Page/Itworks/A039946a.html
http://artsandactivities.com/Page/Itworks/A039946b.html
And I am pleased as punch to see that my idea came first (1990). I did 6"
birds (on real copper) in their environment - and we extended the
composition on the black mats. (I was in a Catholic School so I had all
sorts of connections).
I think I will do my sample that way - but with my fish. I plan to get a lot
of mileage out of Red/Blue (for short).

Enjoy - and Someone pretty please do the clay jointed animals or people!
They ARE fun!
http://artsandactivities.com/Page/Itworks/A049120a.html
http://artsandactivities.com/Page/Itworks/A049120b.html
(and YES I had this idea in the late 80s when I wrote an elementary art
curriculum for a grad class - had all media. I know I could add more lesson
plans to IAD from that thick notebook....and I will -- but I don't have
digital images of student work - and that is what folks want the most on the
lesson - Many need the "expectations" guideline)

Judy Decker - Ohio
Incredible Art Department
http://www.princetonol.com/groups/iad/
Incredible Art Resources
http://www.princetonol.com/groups/iad/lessons/middle/

P.S. I guess Michael Garrish is another one of those "Angel Fish" in "My
Pond". He just helpd me find NEMO! so I guess he could be a Clown Fish
too....LOL Michael. I like Clown Fish very much...They are very smart in my
pond - - witty but very caring and they like science, too - they are also
very wise - they like discovery and have inquiring minds (this is my
definition of the Clown Fish - I know what th real Clown Fish are like too).
I am waiting for permission to share Nemo with y'all

Dear Art Educators,

>> I was wondering if anyone has had a lesson of discussion on this subject
with the middle school age?

This post is not offensive....so do not take offense....and allow me to
bring this to all lists. The question about nudity in art has surfaced
again.... this time on ArtsEducators list.

Getty had it a month or so ago in a BIG way. One teacher has lost her job
(but I know there was more to it - I can not prove it). World list brought
it up last summer? or was that Getty again? I know world had input. European
countries aren't as hung up on nudity in art as we Americans are. Nor are
other countries in the world. This is more of an American thing.

Anyways....The question came up about showing the nude babies (see - I said
it wasn't offensive). Madonna and child paintings. The kids giggle
(elementary). My 8th graders had no problem with this, BUT they didn't know
what Madonna meant - they didn't know who the mother was or who the child
was....And as a result of a survey the 6th grade did one year, we found out
that 80 to 90 percent of the student body said they were Christian (I don't
remember that actual percentage. It was high). I did feel it was my
responsibility to tell them what the paintings meant. We also talked about
the love of mother to child and other meanings. They also didn't know what
the halos meant (Halos went back to pre Christian times - I don't remember
what culture now - but I knew then). I did "Christian" art only during the
Renaissance (8th grade) and Middle Ages (6th grade) - but I didn't bring up
any theology - ways of thinking - the different philosophies (some of you
have my intention wrong - I want kids AWARE of all world religions). Seventh
graders got what the Christians did wrong with Native Cultures and African
Cultures (Africa and Mexico was their social studies curriculum - stripping
a culture of all they believe and value is never right - in my book - Nor is
book burning!). Just don't read my posts about religion if that word offends
you (Substitute "beliefs"....because I will not stop writing about it's
importance. (ArtsEducators - I did write to Sharon H. off list - Sharon and
I are on the same page).

ELEMENTARY

I really like Roberta Dunkel's explanation to her little ones....Maybe
elementary is the best time to bring up nudity.

"I show the Cowpers' Madonna near Mother's Day (can't do religious art at
Christmas time - too religious) and the children gasp.
I have k - 5 .  They giggle and I tell them - "Well did they have disposable
diapers or Wal-Mart back then?  No!  So the moms could hold a nude baby out
to the side while they "wetted" and the mom would not get wet.
Seems very smart to me." And they agree that that is what they would do too.
Then Mary Cassatt's beautiful babies being bathed -
"Well do you take a bath with your clothes on?" I ask.
Stops them and they think logically about it for awhile. A touchy subject
and I usually avoid any adult nudity."

MIDDLE SCHOOL (from Judy Decker)

I introduce nudity with sixth grade with African Art - the sculptures I show
(slides) have bare breasts. I explain the meaning and importance of the
breast -- and the penis in African art. They have sex education in health
anyways so see pictures there. Seventh grade gets African art too - no
problems there. Eighth grade gets Renaissance art - by that point, I tell
them to just close your eyes. Once I held up a fig leaf over David's penis
in Cradle of the Renaissance. Kids really got a kick out of that. And of
course I talked about the "Britches Painter" of Last Judgment. I also asked
their permission to show Boticelli's Birth of Venus. May take is wearing a
towel. My kids who chose her put clothes on her.
I also said if you are offended by the nudity have you parent call me. No
one did. I never did how a real nude figure. I was naughty and cut them all
out of the Matisse video (without their permission - then I sent the video
back and never showed it again - got my money back, too).  When kids would
look at National Geographic I would be sure to tell them to cut out all of
the nude pictures they find. I would want any of the younger kids to find
them (8th grade was collage using the National Geographics).  Elementary
teacher don't have much trouble with Faith Ringgold's video (Last Story
Quilt?). Note - you can not "legally" edit videos...you do need permission.

High School (from Judy Decker)

I gave high school free reign on my art books....never had a problem...
but I never presented nude images in slides..Never had a need to.
When I order Matisse "Blue Nude" by mistake, I did give it to the HS.
I paid for the "Romanian Blouse" myself, then - should have taken that with
me (grin).

Judy Decker - Ohio
Incredible Art Department
http://www.princetonol.com/groups/iad/
Incredible Art Resources
http://www.princetonol.com/groups/iad/lessons/middle/

(Marlene please send me your URL! We would all like to see this.
I am assuming your want all digital art? or can it be any kind of art?
Pardon me if you didn't want this much advertising for your site)

Dear Art Teachers,

This is just one of the gems I have received on the Ed Tech list. Let
Marlene know if you are interested. She can always reply when she has had
enough respondents. Maybe she can do a short form letter thanking all and to
try again next year. I think this sounds like a super project! (Marlene, I
will not post this to Getty list -- that goe out to over 900 members).

Date:    Mon, 5 Apr 2004 19:29:09 -0400
From:    EDTECH Editor-Beil <edadmin9@...>
Subject: Incorporating Art

From: Marlene McGarrity <missmcgarrity@...>

Hi! I am looking for ten teachers K-12 who are interested in posting
their students artwork online in a gallery. Students can post digital
pictures of one to six pieces of artwork.

It's easy to use the gallery and my students are able to do it by
themselves. E-mail me your name and school! missmcgarrity@...

Marlene McGarrity
Christa McAuliffe Intermediate School 187
Brooklyn, New York
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Judy Decker - Ohio
Incredible Art Department
http://www.princetonol.com/groups/iad/
Incredible Art Resources
http://www.princetonol.com/groups/iad/lessons/middle/

(Amy - just letting you know I am talking about you - there is something for
everyone on your site)

Greetings All Art Educators,,

I know how all of you love to use bones for observational drawings.....
Who is going to be first to just have to own La Loba? Amy already sold "my
doll".

One of my favorite dollmakers is now making new doll named La Loba.
La Loba Sings the Bones
http://darriendesign.com/serendipity/laloba.htm
Exerpt from "Women Who Run With the Wolves,"
by Clarissa Pinkola Estes

Oh wonderful! see the progress:
http://www.livejournal.com/users/draiguisge/118254.html#cutid1

Amy Rawson's Hugin and Munin are finished:
http://thirdroar.com/sculptures/2004-002-HuginMunin/
Read the story about them....Folks Dollmaking IS storytelling....and it is
ART.
I would love for some one out there to get as hooked on this topic as I am.
I have started my dolls - but set them aside for right now. I have four
other projects going right now. Don't know how many photos I will take along
the way. All are for lesson plans that I will write.
See study:
http://thirdroar.com/digitalart/2004-003-huginmunin/

I met Amy Rawson when she posted Crane Woman to the dollmakers' list:
http://thirdroar.com/sculptures/

You will love Amy Rawson's city paintings:
http://thirdroar.com/paintings/2003-99/

Amy Rawson's Journal:
http://www.livejournal.com/users/draiguisge/
I enjoy reading all she is doing...it is fun.

I have Amy linked on my Dollmakers links page - on American Artists - and on
my hands page.

Amy also has high quality images at:
http://www.epilogue.net/cgi/database/art/list.pl?gallery=9111&genre  (add an
= sign if this doesn't work)

Enjoy her work! Happy sculpting to all.

Judy Decker - Ohio
Incredible Art Department
http://www.princetonol.com/groups/iad/
Incredible Art Resources
http://www.princetonol.com/groups/iad/lessons/middle/

Folks I check Ken Schwabs's site frequently for updates. Here is one Ken
just told me about (pardon if he already told ArtsEducators list - I get
digest now). I have some of Candice's work on Incredible Art Department:
http://www.room3art.com/php/spot.php?student=Candice

From Ken Schwab:

I have just added a new student spotlight.  Her name is Candice Romano and
she is a great kid.  Good work as well.  She just won the Best in Show at a
Senior only art contest in our district.  $200for Best in Show and 2
honorable mentions for a total of $220.  I just thought you might want to
take a look.

Ken

Art teacher: Leigh High School
San Jose CA
web site: http://www.room3art.com
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World list - please post your sites....We would all like to see what
students are doing around the world. We would also like to know what student
concerns you have. What topics/issues are particulary important?

Judy Decker