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#215 From: Ken Rohrer <kenroar@...>
Date: Tue Aug 13, 2002 2:25 am
Subject: Re: [aeai] NAEA REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS
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IASP INFO: ELEMENTARY ART TEACHER NEEDED

I am in immediate need of an Art Teacher for a ½ time
positon at Brandywine Elementary.  An elementary
certified teacher with a strong Art background, might
prove acceptable. If you could pass this along to the
membership I would be most appreciative.
Anyone interested can contact me at.
Brandywine Elementary School
413 E, 400 South
Greenfield, IN  46140
317-462-7396 Ext. 103 School Number
317-835-2977 Home Number
or bmiller@...

Thanks,
Bruce A. Miller




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#216 From: Ken Rohrer <kenroar@...>
Date: Tue Aug 13, 2002 2:26 am
Subject: 1/2 time elementary art teacher- Greenfield, IN
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IASP INFO: ELEMENTARY ART TEACHER NEEDED

I am in immediate need of an Art Teacher for a ½ time
positon at Brandywine Elementary.  An elementary
certified teacher with a strong Art background, might
prove acceptable. If you could pass this along to the
membership I would be most appreciative.
Anyone interested can contact me at.
Brandywine Elementary School
413 E, 400 South
Greenfield, IN  46140
317-462-7396 Ext. 103 School Number
317-835-2977 Home Number
or bmiller@...

Thanks,
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#217 From: Ken Rohrer <kenroar@...>
Date: Wed Aug 21, 2002 4:07 am
Subject: Art Teacher needed immediately- Indiana
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A high school art teacher is needed immediately at
Michigan City High School in Michigan City, Indiana.
( http://www.mcas.k12.in.us/mchs/home.htm ) The
position is posted until filled. Students start
Thursday, so they are looking for applicants quickly.

Call Mark Francesconi, principal at:

(219) 873-2044

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#219 From: "a_boogaloo" <abigphoney@...>
Date: Wed Aug 21, 2002 7:06 pm
Subject: Ukulele Instruction Book w/ Illustrations
a_boogaloo
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Just wanted to make a quick plug for my new book to any art/music
teachers reading this list.

http://www.alligatorboogaloo.com/jiminy

It's a ukulele instruction book for kids (for you comic/cartoon fans,
it's full of illustrations, comics and comic puzzles). Art teachers:
maybe this is what you've been looking for to teach that unit on multi-
disciplinarianism.

It's at the printer's right now and will be available at the end of
August, please drop by my website to see some sample pages.

Thank you,

Jerrold Connors

#220 From: "Phil Callow" <philip@...>
Date: Thu Aug 22, 2002 11:19 am
Subject: Digital Art Education Group
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Hello
I have just set up a yahoo community for ICT in Art education. All welcome to join-
Regards
Phil Callow
 

#221 From: "s_kahn79" <sasha79800@...>
Date: Wed Aug 28, 2002 1:29 am
Subject: Free Arts & Crafts and Recipe Newsletter
s_kahn79
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I received this about six hours ago and did download some
portions of this
material.  I felt that many on this list would appreciate this
information - especially the art lessons.

(Also, for those of you who are looking for some really nice
educational
links for preschool, primary and middle school children, e-mail
me off list.
I have compiled a really nice selection!  I would post it here, but it
really is off topic.)



Sasha Sajid


Forwarded Message:

Subj:      Free Fall Creative Lesson Planning Newsletter
Date:     Tuesday, August 27, 2002 10:25:05 PM
From:     amontessoric@...
To:       undisclosed recipients


Forwarded Message

Bring some new fun, educational hands-on learning projects
into your
classroom this fall.  Many of the AMC resource participants have
generously
shared some creative ideas that you can use as interdisciplinary
extension
exercises.  You'll also discover some marvelous new recipes
and crafts that
you can incorporate into your multicultural lesson planning.

Please feel free to forward this message!

Below, is just *a sampling* of what you will find in this FREE
eight part
newsletter.

Aebleskiver ~ A Danish Pancake
Felted Ball Ornament
Jack-O-Lanterns
Special Decoupage Craft
Make Your Own Barbie Clothes
Instructions for Making a Guiro - Caribbean Musical Instrument
Kaidy's Kommunication Kookies - A Chinese Recipe
Merengues ~ Colombian Dessert
(Also known as Suspiro in South America)
Finger Paints Recipe
A Simple Wreath
Old Fashioned Apple Crisp
Recipe for Wood Dough for Sculpting
Montessorian Kathy O'Reilly Shares
Two Recipes - Fresh Fruit Freeze &
Apple Sauce Parfait
from Cooking With Children Can Be Easy
Snowman Paperchain
Snow Covered Pine Trees
Nectar Recipe for Hummingbirds ~ Science Hands On Learning
Tolcana ~ "By making this recipe of the Apalachee students
will gain insight into the lives of some of Florida's indigenous
people." Recipe and Unit Study
Flower Pot Bells
Painted Kitchen Trivet
Soft Pretzels
Peanut Crunch Cake
A French Ham and Cheese Recipe
Mexican Cookie Recipe - Favorites for Christmas
A Mexican Craft ~ Especially for the Holidays
Learn How to Make Your Own Family Tartan
A Ramadan Meal
Flip-Flop-Splash ~ A Fun Sewing Project
Apple Wreath
Geography Catch Games ~ Games to Promote International
Peace
Fish Printing ~ An Ancient Art First Perfected in Asia
Lithuanian Cranberry Cake
Beginning Cross Stitch and
Continental Stitch for Making Coasters, Etc.
Recipe from South Africa
PrintNStitch ~ Free Sewing Graphics Program
Oma's Cookies ~ A German Recipe
Using Your Eyes to Draw ~ An Art Project
Zebra Stick Craft
Kaidy's Kommunication Kookies ~ A Chinese Recipe


To access this newletter visit http://www.amonco.org and click on
the Fall
Lesson Planing Icon.

Kind Regards,

Frances Henderson

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Serving School and Home Educators Since 1988
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#222 From: "teacherart2003" <teacherart2003@...>
Date: Sun Sep 8, 2002 4:35 pm
Subject: Need Some Guidence\
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Hi, I am a new art teacher going alternate route and I could use
some suggestions.
What should I put in my substitute plan folder? I want something
that I can use at any time during the year. Any ideas for activities
that would last a 40 minute period?
Thanks so much!
Lorie

#223 From: "The Austin's" <whest177@...>
Date: Sun Sep 8, 2002 9:17 pm
Subject: Re: Need Some Guidence\
whest177
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In my district our sub folders are supposed to hold "emergency" lessons in
case we can't get regular sub lessons prepared. I fill mine with puzzles,
worksheets, and some drawing ideas that any sub could do with minimum
preparation. Go to http://www.puzzlemaker.com and make your own puzzles
easily.
~Michal


> Hi, I am a new art teacher going alternate route and I could use
> some suggestions.
> What should I put in my substitute plan folder? I want something
> that I can use at any time during the year. Any ideas for activities
> that would last a 40 minute period?
> Thanks so much!
> Lorie

#224 From: Ken Rohrer <kenroar@...>
Date: Sun Sep 8, 2002 11:34 pm
Subject: Re: Need Some Guidence\
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Lorie,
You can also print up some of the many lessons found
at:
http://www.princetonol.com/groups/iad/lessons/lessons.html

Ken
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--- teacherart2003 <teacherart2003@...> wrote:
> Hi, I am a new art teacher going alternate route and
> I could use
> some suggestions.
> What should I put in my substitute plan folder? I
> want something
> that I can use at any time during the year. Any
> ideas for activities
> that would last a 40 minute period?
> Thanks so much!
> Lorie
>
>
>


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#225 From: MaryAnn Kohl <maryann@...>
Date: Sun Sep 8, 2002 11:55 pm
Subject: Re: Need Some Guidence\
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is this for an elementary school, high school, or middle school? I'm sure I can come up with some fun ideas for you once I know your grade level.





On 9/8/02 9:35 AM, teacherart2003 at teacherart2003@... wrote:

Hi, I am a new art teacher going alternate route and I could use
some suggestions.  
What should I put in my substitute plan folder? I want something
that I can use at any time during the year. Any ideas for activities
that would last a 40 minute period?
Thanks so much!
Lorie



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#226 From: "Huddy, Heather" <HHuddy@...>
Date: Mon Sep 9, 2002 1:06 pm
Subject: How do I post a message?
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Hi All-
I have registered, but am having trouble posting a message. Any assistance would be appreciated!
 

#227 From: "Ken Rohrer" <kenroar@...>
Date: Mon Sep 9, 2002 7:07 pm
Subject: Re: How do I post a message?
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Heather,
You just posted it!
Ken
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On Mon, 9 Sep 2002 09:06:36    Huddy, Heather wrote:
>Hi All-
>I have registered, but am having trouble posting a message. Any assistance
>would be appreciated!
>
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>


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#228 From: "John Baselmans" <graphic@...>
Date: Fri Sep 20, 2002 7:45 pm
Subject: Re-designed Art Site
baseltje
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Hello group members

Please visit my complete new re-designed Art Site.

The site will be updated daily with my recent work!
Today I made some new pages and uploaded them and maybe one is for sure
interesting for you:
http://www.johnbaselmans.com/Courses/Materials/materials.htm
I will in the coming weeks place the most important tools.
If you have suggestions please let me know.
All of you are welcome as guest artist on my site where you can place free your
art!
Have all of you an creative weekend!

John Baselmans

#229 From: "naturepainterdotnet" <naturepainterdotnet@...>
Date: Mon Oct 14, 2002 11:04 pm
Subject: Art Education Software, www.NaturePainter.net
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Hello everyone,

I am writing to let you know about a great new product that is really useful for
teaching children about painting and art.

It's called NaturePainter Digital Canvas.  It's loaded with great visual
tutorials
that make it very easy to learn painting, and it's very full featured with many
different types of brushes and painting tools.

It's available for download and purchase at http://www.NaturePainter.net

Please feel free to try it out for free, and maybe you might want to show it to
some of your students.

Thank you so much!

happy painting!

Brian, Marvin, and Bryan
http://www.naturepainter.net

#230 From: "s_kahn79" <sasha79800@...>
Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 1:27 pm
Subject: *Hands-On* Creative Lesson Planning Recipes, Crafts
s_kahn79
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<<This was forwarded to me.  I know many enjoyed the first fall
newseltter they published that came out in September.  I liked
this one too.

Many of those who read the AMC Fall Creative Lesson Planning
Newsletter
wrote to express their thanks.  Because of the tremendous
interest, our
resource participants have decided to share some additional
lesson
plannining ideas you can use right now in your home and school
classrooms.

In this new issue you will discover new ways to incorporate
music, geography
science, social studies, literature, cooking, arts & crafts and
gardening
into your existing curriculum.   You will also receive special
multicultural
holiday recipes, games and other crafts designed to be used
throughout
October, November and December.

Below is a sampling of what you will find in this FREE six part
newsletter.

Table of Contents

Part I

Egg Carton Violins
Kaidy's Chocolate Chip Cookie Recipe
Chinese Almond Cookies
Scribble Designs ~ Reawaken Those Imagination Sparking
Moments
Christmas Crunch Cookies
Chocolate Chip Bars

Part II

Pistachio Poppy Seed Cake ~ A Miami Favorite
Old Fashioned Sugar Cookie Cutouts ~ Recipe from
Montessorian Kathy O'Reilly
Napkin Rings
Colonial Adventures ~ A Complete Unit Study from DEMCO
(Includes 'How to Make a Corn Husk Doll' Craft)
Fun With Bread Dough
Fall Leaves Pictures
Bobbing With Apples ~ Minus the Mess
Pumpkin Magnetic Dolls
Halloween Haunted House

Part III

Statues ~ A Music Activity
Tuna Cones
Wax Resist Holiday Pictures
Victorian Ornaments
Creche
Fruit Peel Flowers
Science Project ~ Crystallization
Pumpkin Pie Scented Playdough Recipe
Recipe for World Tolerance
Holiday Cheesecake

Part IV

"My Mother's Picadillo" Cuban Style
Scented Baskets
Tin Can Luminaries
Nutty Chocolate Pudding Squares
Fun Activities for Learning the Letters of the Alphabet
Making a Fly Fish
Who Gets the Woolly Socks?
Fall Squirrel

Part V

Turn Your Classroom Into An Art Gallery
Soap Sud Paint
Hearty Fall Kale Soup
Puschki's Authentic Bavarian Apple Rings
Candle Rolling Activity
Polymer Clay Baby Food Jars
Delta's Hands-On Activity of the Month

Part VI

Bean Curd and Egg Soup ~ A Chinese Recipe
Kids' Grass Snake Project
Growing a Cultural and Ancestral Garden
Onion Pie
Spinach Dip Recipe
Three Little Kittens ~ Literature Link
Peanut Butter Geography
Chocolate Chip Geography
3-D Maps

To access both the AMC Fall/Winter and Fall Lesson Planning
Newsletters
click on the Fall/Winter Lesson Planing Icons.

Sincerely,

American Montessori Consulting
Serving School and Home Educators Since 1988
http://www.amonco.org

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http://www.amonco.org/directory.html

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P.S.Please update your bookmarks.  We have moved from
http://members.aol.com/amonco/amonco.html to

http://www.amonco.org>>


Sasha

#231 From: "s_kahn79" <sasha79800@...>
Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 1:28 pm
Subject: More *Hands-On* Creative Lesson Planning Recipes, Crafts
s_kahn79
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Besides the ones at http://www.amonco.org

Here are some addtional ones my sister and I found
on the Internet.

http://www.verybestkids.com/
Wonderful Selection of Crafts and Recipes for Children

http://www.jollytime.com/kidsclub/kidsclub_recipes.asp

Pop Corn Marshmallow Base

Carmel Corn Apples

Noon-Time Treats

Two Minute Pop Corn-Fusion

Punchy Pizza Pop Corn

Poppin' Around Snack Mixes

Pop Corn Lollipops

Quick and Easy Caramel Corn

Witch's Hands

Mish-Mash Mix

White Chocolate Pecan Corn

Pop Corn Peanut Butter Cups


http://www.sciencemadesimple.com/animals.html#PROJECTS
Science Projects
HOW DO ANIMALS SPEND THE WINTER?


Play Dough Recipes for Young Children
http://www.preschooleducation.com/rdough.shtml

http://www.punkyschildcare.com/artscrafts/playdo.html

#232 From: Ankur Vora <ankurmvora@...>
Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 7:24 pm
Subject: Hello,This is Ankur Vora from Bhuj-india (New at your group)
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Dear all at Art education group.
I’m just get a membership of your group. So let me
introduce you in brief. I’m Ankur Vora and I’m from
Bhuj-India. I competed Art Teacher diploma. there
after I also completed Diploma in Advance computer
Arts. So I have a combination of both new and
tradinational art.
I want to know more about your group. tell me who is
founder of this group. Most of the members are from
which country etc. most of them are teacher or
student?
I’m interested in so many activities so if any body
have a good idea for doing some thing new for art
education activities then please email me. my personal
e-mail address is ankurmvora@...
Thanks
-Ankur Vora


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#233 From: Ken Rohrer <kenroar@...>
Date: Fri Oct 25, 2002 11:04 pm
Subject: Re: Hello,This is Ankur Vora from Bhuj-india (New at your group)
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Ankur,
I started the IAD website when I was an art teacher
back in 1995. You can read some history about the site
by going to:
http://www.princetonol.com/groups/iad/history/history.html
I started the list group around 2-3 years ago. It
migrated to a new company when the old one began
charging for the service. Teri Mason, an art teacher
sometimes helps me with the site, although she has
been busy with her new baby this past year.

There are people on this group from around the world.
As a matter of fact, I was just browsing the member
list and I found another person from Gujarat, India.
France, Britain, Australia, the Netherlands, New
Zealand, Italy, Russia, Japan, and Canada are just a
few of the countries represented here. You can find
more information about this group by going to:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/art_education/

This group will not fill your mailbox up as it
averages 20-25 messages a month and comes in spurts.
Welcome to the group!
Ken Rohrer
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--- Ankur Vora <ankurmvora@...> wrote:
> Dear all at Art education group.
> I’m just get a membership of your group. So let me
> introduce you in brief. I’m Ankur Vora and I’m from
> Bhuj-India. I competed Art Teacher diploma. there
> after I also completed Diploma in Advance computer
> Arts. So I have a combination of both new and
> tradinational art.
> I want to know more about your group. tell me who is
> founder of this group. Most of the members are from
> which country etc. most of them are teacher or
> student?
> I’m interested in so many activities so if any body
> have a good idea for doing some thing new for art
> education activities then please email me. my
> personal
> e-mail address is ankurmvora@...
> Thanks
> -Ankur Vora

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#234 From: "John Baselmans" <graphic@...>
Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 11:08 am
Subject: I'm looking for young talent!
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Hello group members

If your kids, kids from school, neighborhood or art club make beautiful
drawings.
Please let me know!
I want to place their work on my site at "Kids Corner"
Also there is an award for the best drawing of the month!
Let them know these possibilities and let them write to me at:
graphic@...

"Kids are the future of our civilization"

My latest drawing of a two dog's named Speedy and Spoyler is in progress.
Please visit.
http://www.johnbaselmans.com/ Notes/Notes1/Note1.htm

I want to welcome my new guest artists for this week:
Jeff Wesley
Scott Andrew Spencer
Our group is still growing and together we make a better world in art.
http://www.johnbaselmans.com/Guest_Artists/Guest_Art10/Guest_Art10.htm

Comments and new artists are always welcome!
Have a nice and creative weekend.

John Baselmans

#235 From: "naturepainterdotnet" <naturepainterdotnet@...>
Date: Mon Nov 4, 2002 8:36 pm
Subject: Re: I'm looking for young talent!
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Hi john!

that sounds very cool...by the way, apparently lots of people use my
company's product to teach their kids art...it's called NaturePainter
Digital Canvas (http://www.naturepainter.net)

it's really easy to use and provides a very natural painting
environment.

maybe you can check it out also to help spread the word about art!

happy painting!

brian
http://www.naturepainter.net

some user quotes:

I am really excited about using my NaturePainter program.  I am new
to computer art  -- I guess I'm new to painting, too.  I've always
wanted to paint, but "never could find the time." Now, I am finding
the time. Learning thing likes color theory and composition, etc, is
a new experience for me.  The wonderful thing about NaturePainter is
I can try ideas and if they don't work, I have not used up costly
supplies. I can also erase the errors and no one will know the
difference!! I am very excited that I found this program - which was
by accident.

Randy Warley

Hi All Mary Here. I bought naturepainter and find it so usefull to
experiment on my already existing work. I currently have a large
painting on my easel 5'x6'.I tossed and turned with my next step and
then I photographed it and import into NP. It has been helpful in
color changes,blending,and it gives me a new perspective on my
piece.  I find it very easy to use too.

Mary Dolan

just like to say hello and would like all to know
that i think nature painter is pretty cool way of either getting into
painting or just restoring one's love of it after leaving it for
quite some
time which applies to me.

Anthony Palmere

hi, i think the program is brilliant, and i find it useful to me
since i oil paint quite a lot. i have done alright with all of the
mountain and tree, cloud and sky images...water isnt too bad either.
however, i want to do animals as well, so if you got any tips or
images..im all ears!

Shona G

I've just purchased naturepainter and am still learning the ins and
outs.  I love the way you can get shades of your color on the palette!

Audra


--- In art_education@y..., "John Baselmans" <graphic@j...> wrote:
> Hello group members
>
> If your kids, kids from school, neighborhood or art club make
beautiful drawings.
> Please let me know!
> I want to place their work on my site at "Kids Corner"
> Also there is an award for the best drawing of the month!
> Let them know these possibilities and let them write to me at:
> graphic@j...
>
> "Kids are the future of our civilization"
>
> My latest drawing of a two dog's named Speedy and Spoyler is in
progress.
> Please visit.
> http://www.johnbaselmans.com/ Notes/Notes1/Note1.htm
>
> I want to welcome my new guest artists for this week:
> Jeff Wesley
> Scott Andrew Spencer
> Our group is still growing and together we make a better world in
art.
>
http://www.johnbaselmans.com/Guest_Artists/Guest_Art10/Guest_Art10.htm
>
> Comments and new artists are always welcome!
> Have a nice and creative weekend.
>
> John Baselmans

#236 From: "John Baselmans" <graphic@...>
Date: Sun Nov 24, 2002 7:34 pm
Subject: Drawing in progress of my deceased mother.
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Yesterday I started wit a drawing of my deceased mother.
It will be a drawing 27 X 35 cm and in a mixed media
Pen/Ink, pastel, color and black pencil.
I hope to finish this drawing in about 3 weeks.
You will see two parts in this drawing as a woman of 21 years (black white) and
one as 57 years (full color)
I hope you will enjoy the way I will work on this drawing and you know comments
are always welcome.

Please visit: http://www.johnbaselmans.com/Notes/Notes1/Note1.htm

You can see the progress the next 3 weeks.
You are welcome!

John Baselmans

#237 From: "ladyada76" <ladyada76@...>
Date: Wed Dec 4, 2002 3:41 pm
Subject: New to the group
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Hello to all

I am new to the group and wanted to take a moment to introduce
myself. I am an artist, specializing in photography, graphic
design and bookmaking. I reside in New York City and I am
pondering a huge career change. For the past three years I have
been working in children's book publishing, involved with the
creative aspects of the industry and also working on my creative
projects in photography in my spare time. I realized that
corporate world is not for me. I long to do something that makes
the difference, that inspires...I always dreamed on being an art
teacher and I feel that the time had come to make a big leap in
that direction. I am presently researching NYS teacher test
requirements (I am interested in teaching at a Jr High and High
School level). I have BFA in Photography, Minor in Art History with
a very strong fine art backgroud. I joined this group because I
wanted to meet other teachers, who have been  working in the
field of Art Education and hear about your experiences, how did
you started to teach, what is required to teach art (I do not have
any teaching experience, but I do have strong portfolio
demonstrating my skills) I am looking forward to getting to know
you all.

Ada

#238 From: Wayong@...
Date: Wed Dec 4, 2002 10:28 pm
Subject: Re: New to the group
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hi- I'm originally from NYC. FYI, every state has different rules & regulations.
If you want to remain in NY, you are very lucky.  Prior to moving out of state,
I was not aware of any of my friends/colleagues having a full time position. A
full time art teacher position is very rare in NYC (and elsewhere). You are more
likely to get a position like that upstate. However, there are more
opportunities for part time & contract positions. But if you want to slowly get
into the field, this is a good way to go. NY, along w/NJ, Pennsylvania,
Conneticut & much of the east coast, it is not required to have a degree in
education nor initially have a certification. Board of Ed will hire you in lieu
of you completing cert. requirements if they are in need. Many other private
org. won't require a cert. or license.

Your strong portfolio & people skills will definately be an asset. However, your
lack of experience will work against you. There are many very qualified people
vying for contract positions at Studio in the School, Marquis Studios, etc.
Your options are to either volunteer doing the work you ideally want to do
professionally, or take less than ideal jobs to get started. Hospital Audience
Inc. - HAI, will sometimes hire artists with no prior teaching experience.
However, the commute tends to be long to get to your contract positions, & most
likely will be placed with adults/elderly until you 'prove yourself' for several
years.

Before applying for a graduate program in art ed, I strongly recommend getting
field experience, reading books (although most of the art ed books, in my
opinion are subpar technically & often suffer from lack of imagination), going
to conferances (art ed, ed, special ed, creative arts therapy), and talking to
people in the field.
It's nice to be idealistic & all, but you may not be able to
avoid 'corporation hassles' - there is a lot of beauocracy, red tape, internal
politics, paperwork ESPECIALLY if you get a full time job.
Also, working with kids and/or special needs populations can be very stressful &
wearing. I love working with 'difficult' kids, but it's not for everybody. If
you are too gentle & green or easily irritated, kids can pinpoint you as a
target.

With all of that, you do have a lot of options. Shop around!
There are several organisations that have volunteer artists working with
homeless kids & community settings. While that place may not have a paying
position, getting yourself out there & making yourself known is important.
Personally, I'm very against established professionals volunteering (don't ever
suggest that to me, it wouldn't help my situation) because people assume you are
not worth a paycheck & not professional. But for artists who are trying to break
in, it's a different situation.

Also, check out Earth Celebrations... they can use artists & teachers to develop
puppets, masks, costumes.

With any of these org, set boundaries & don't end up getting abused.

Now, if you want to look for work in the Wild West, don't even bother. I tried 2
yrs in Colorado & I'm happily moving to Boston...

Wayong

#239 From: TeachingDebbie@...
Date: Thu Dec 5, 2002 1:47 pm
Subject: YOU WEB PAGES AND SETUP
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I am making major changes in my designs, I would like to see all of the web pages you guys have designed and also your home setup area if you have pictures, I have been gathering idea's, and making plans, and I want it to be perfect the first time.  Thanks so much.

#240 From: Ken Rohrer <kenroar@...>
Date: Mon Dec 9, 2002 1:22 am
Subject: Re: New to the group
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Wayong,
The last several years, Nevada has been desperate for
teachers. I don't know if they still are since they've
had less move-ins since 9-11.
Ken

--- Wayong@... wrote:
> hi- I'm originally from NYC. FYI, every state has
> different rules & regulations. If you want to remain
> in NY, you are very lucky.  Prior to moving out of
> state, I was not aware of any of my
> friends/colleagues having a full time position. A
> full time art teacher position is very rare in NYC
> (and elsewhere). You are more likely to get a
> position like that upstate. However, there are more
> opportunities for part time & contract positions.
> But if you want to slowly get into the field, this
> is a good way to go. NY, along w/NJ, Pennsylvania,
> Conneticut & much of the east coast, it is not
> required to have a degree in education nor initially
> have a certification. Board of Ed will hire you in
> lieu of you completing cert. requirements if they
> are in need. Many other private org. won't require a
> cert. or license.
>
> Your strong portfolio & people skills will
> definately be an asset. However, your lack of
> experience will work against you. There are many
> very qualified people vying for contract positions
> at Studio in the School, Marquis Studios, etc.
> Your options are to either volunteer doing the work
> you ideally want to do professionally, or take less
> than ideal jobs to get started. Hospital Audience
> Inc. - HAI, will sometimes hire artists with no
> prior teaching experience. However, the commute
> tends to be long to get to your contract positions,
> & most likely will be placed with adults/elderly
> until you 'prove yourself' for several years.
>
> Before applying for a graduate program in art ed, I
> strongly recommend getting field experience, reading
> books (although most of the art ed books, in my
> opinion are subpar technically & often suffer from
> lack of imagination), going to conferances (art ed,
> ed, special ed, creative arts therapy), and talking
> to people in the field.
> It's nice to be idealistic & all, but you may not be
> able to
> avoid 'corporation hassles' - there is a lot of
> beauocracy, red tape, internal politics, paperwork
> ESPECIALLY if you get a full time job.
> Also, working with kids and/or special needs
> populations can be very stressful & wearing. I love
> working with 'difficult' kids, but it's not for
> everybody. If you are too gentle & green or easily
> irritated, kids can pinpoint you as a target.
>
> With all of that, you do have a lot of options. Shop
> around!
> There are several organisations that have volunteer
> artists working with homeless kids & community
> settings. While that place may not have a paying
> position, getting yourself out there & making
> yourself known is important. Personally, I'm very
> against established professionals volunteering
> (don't ever suggest that to me, it wouldn't help my
> situation) because people assume you are not worth a
> paycheck & not professional. But for artists who are
> trying to break in, it's a different situation.
>
> Also, check out Earth Celebrations... they can use
> artists & teachers to develop puppets, masks,
> costumes.
>
> With any of these org, set boundaries & don't end up
> getting abused.
>
> Now, if you want to look for work in the Wild West,
> don't even bother. I tried 2 yrs in Colorado & I'm
> happily moving to Boston...
>
> Wayong
>


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#241 From: Wayong@...
Date: Mon Dec 9, 2002 7:34 am
Subject: Consider all options & practicalities before a drastic relocation
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Nevada also has the #1 drop out rate of high school aged children (Colorado is
#3 - Arizona is #2).

It's just my personal opinion, but I'm sick of the Wild West,
the cultural acceptance of (club) drug abuse, etc. etc. of the surrounding
areas. I find there is very, very little respect for the arts, education &
mental health in this part of the country & it'll take a looonngg time for any
of that to change.

Supposedly, there's a 'need' for teachers in Colorado as well. However, what
they don't tell you until you have already paid an application fee & enrolled in
a doctorate and/or cert program, that the situation is highly political & good
luck getting a job if you are an 'outsider'. It doesn't matter that you already
have a master's degree & that you've been working with children for over 10 yrs.
I had spent my money, time & effort & as well as my former supervisors' &
colleagues' time for nothing, when I could have focused on other endeavors.

Also, the 'desperation for special ed teachers' is actually a misnomer over
here. There are very, very few programs or opportunities for special needs
populations. I have spent hours consoling overwhelmed & tearful parents &
frustrated children who feel like giving up because they couldn't find the right
educational environment or couldn't go to a school because they can't drive
because of their disability. The so-called special ed, is actually a call for
overburdened ESL teachers & that situation is complicated in itself.

And at least in Colorado, there is no crossover professionalship... an art
therapist can't work as an art teacher, a special ed affective disorders teacher
can't work with kids w/ ADD or cerebral palsy, a therapist working at a clinic
w/kids can't work in a school... Huh????

Kudos for those who want to stay in this area, but for me,
I'll take the inner city of any east coast city any time, even with all the
problems. At least, there are alternatives & there are more heterogenous
environments... where you don't feel like an outsider because of your sexual
orientation, ethnic background, religion, uniqueness, etc. where there is
funding for alternative programming for children & adults with different needs
and a respect for the arts in education,
mental health, rehabilitation and society.

Wayong

#242 From: Wayong@...
Date: Mon Dec 9, 2002 7:39 pm
Subject: Re: Consider all options & practicalities before a drastic relocation
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I apologise for slamming against this south western region.
I know that people in the surrounding states are very proud of the places where
they live & take it to heart if they feel someone is attacking their homeland.
It is very beautiful & the weather & nature here is quite lovely & majestic. The
terrain provides wonderful opportunities for vacations, camping, hiking & other
nature oriented activities. I respect that pride even if I don't understand it,
so if anyone on this list is from surrounding areas, my apologies for being
harsh, but I'm not going to retract my opinion.

This was initially in response to someone who currently lives in NYC, who wants
to make the transition from publishing to
teaching. I was giving the upsides & downsides of the field &
recommendations for making a smooth transition. It wouldn't
make any sense to recommend to that person to uproot her/himself & moved to
Nevada, Colorado or Utah unless that person had a religious revelation or
decided to devote his/her life to the mountains & forget about pursuing a career
in art education.

FYI, I was extremely hopeful when I moved out here & thought I could make it
work out. I thought I could convince people the power of the arts & encourage
change. I thought I could make a difference.  Instead, I struggled for 2 long
yrs & dealt with people's resistant attitudes towards the arts, mental health &
alternative education.  I now realise that
one person cannot influence changes in a system that is so entrenched &
resistant to modern change. It is much easier when the mindset of your
environment is open to what you have to offer, even is the economy is terrible.
The economy is terrible around the world right now, be it in NYC, St. Paul,
Vancouver, London or Tokyo.  But that will change much sooner than resistant
attitudes...

If I can help others avoid the situation I placed myself in, at least it won't
be for nought.

Wayong

#243 From: "Ada S" <ladyada76@...>
Date: Mon Dec 9, 2002 8:06 pm
Subject: Re: Consider all options & practicalities before a drastic reloc
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I was actually only considering teaching in the NYC area, since I personally
love the city and wouldn't want to move. After further research into art
education career I found out that the best way for me to go might be to
start in private schools, since they seem to have great art and photography
programs. They also do not require a certificate, but the salaries are much
much lower. The city also offers a lot of non-traditional oportunities in
Art Education as well as Art Therapy (something I have been interested in as
well and taken some classes in)

I went to college in Savannah, GA and four years in south made me realize
that I would never, ever leave the  East coast again. The attitudes agains
arts are much different down there and I believe that they might differ from
region to region. I think what I was looking for was to network with other
art educators. Possibly share their experiences about teaching art while
pursuing their own creativity. What made me interested by this profession is
the great opportunity for making a change, for doing something that trully
matters. But I also believe that if one of our dreams doesn't come true we
create another and pursue that one. As a creative person, I pursue life with
all its opportunities. After all...it is really hard to put your heart into
something that does not bring you satisfaction. And yes...I believe in
fighting, because sometimes we can make the difference, but other times we
might not be able to break through the wall. That is where we shift and
begin to pursue something else.

Thank you so much for everyones responses, it is definitelly giving me a
different view.

Ada

>I apologise for slamming against this south western region.
>I know that people in the surrounding states are very proud of the places
>where they live & take it to heart if they feel someone is attacking their
>homeland. It is very beautiful & the weather & nature here is quite lovely
>& majestic. The terrain provides wonderful opportunities for vacations,
>camping, hiking & other nature oriented activities. I respect that pride
>even if I don't understand it, so if anyone on this list is from
>surrounding areas, my apologies for being harsh, but I'm not going to
>retract my opinion.
>
>This was initially in response to someone who currently lives in NYC, who
>wants to make the transition from publishing to
>teaching. I was giving the upsides & downsides of the field &
>recommendations for making a smooth transition. It wouldn't
>make any sense to recommend to that person to uproot her/himself & moved to
>Nevada, Colorado or Utah unless that person had a religious revelation or
>decided to devote his/her life to the mountains & forget about pursuing a
>career in art education.
>
>FYI, I was extremely hopeful when I moved out here & thought I could make
>it work out. I thought I could convince people the power of the arts &
>encourage change. I thought I could make a difference.  Instead, I
>struggled for 2 long yrs & dealt with people's resistant attitudes towards
>the arts, mental health & alternative education.  I now realise that
>one person cannot influence changes in a system that is so entrenched &
>resistant to modern change. It is much easier when the mindset of your
>environment is open to what you have to offer, even is the economy is
>terrible. The economy is terrible around the world right now, be it in NYC,
>St. Paul, Vancouver, London or Tokyo.  But that will change much sooner
>than resistant attitudes...
>
>If I can help others avoid the situation I placed myself in, at least it
>won't be for nought.
>
>Wayong


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#244 From: Wayong@...
Date: Mon Dec 9, 2002 9:35 pm
Subject: Re: art ed & art therapy
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Ada,
let us know how your search goes.
Check with United Cerebral Palsy to see if they are hiring.
They have Saturday programs for teens & it's a good introduction with kids
w/special needs, as for the most part the kids & the staff are pretty easy
going. The work is not difficult, but it would require you to come up with your
own project ideas.

Rudolf Steiner & Montessori schools are often open to art & creative techniques.
(again, they don't pay well, but a good
way to start, as you said)

I have found, in my experience, working with physically disabled children &
alternative (open) school settings a great way to get one's feet wet in working
with special needs. I worked on a Traumatic Brain Injury/ Coma Recovery Unit &
found it a wonderful learning experience. Later on in
my profession, I wanted more challanges (lesson plans can get
a little monotaneous working w/cognitively impaired/physically disabled) &
focused on working w/ ED/MR,
psychiatric disorders, behaviour disorders, neurological disorders & gifted &
talented populations. These populations
can be very intense & overwhelming, but with the right training, extremely
rewarding.

Ada, if you have any questions, feel free to email me.
Are you on artsednet or any special educators or creative arts therapy lists?
They are much more active than this list & provide good networking
opportunities.

Wayong

#245 From: "bill merrill" <bmerrill@...>
Date: Wed Dec 11, 2002 12:18 am
Subject: The West
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I never saw the letter about the Western states, I have however read about the "West" and the fact that Wayong was not apologizing for what was written. I really don't know what was said.
 
I lived in Wyoming as a youngster, went to college and in fact my first teaching job was at the college level.  I moved to Washington State and have taught at the college level ever since.  Those of you who teach art at kindergarden through the 12th grade obviously do it fot the love of teaching and for Art.  Where I teach we now have "Running Start", where High School students take college classes as Juniors and Seniors.  I find that in todays educational climate that many colleges that have Running Start are becoming glorified High Schools.  Don't get me wrong, some of those students do well here.  Most of the time though they need to live their lives at the High School, grow up, mature before they embark on a rigorour College level program.  I will no lower the college level standards to accomodate a group og students justn because they are young. 
 
Most Artists mand faculty in the Western States that I know are open, listen, are serious about what they teach and expect the students to learn.  Respect is important, coming from the teacher, students and administrations.  I guess the point is that no one needs to make any pretenses  any more.  If you don't like Mozart, don't listen to his music.  If you don't care for an area or the culture then don't live there, simply move.  There are some things that we must do sometimes even though we don't like it.  "Sometimes it not enough to do our best, but what's required of us"  to paraphrase Winston Churchhill.
 
I know I am jumping into  a conversation midstream, so what I have said may or may not contribute to the conversation. 
 
I have only one question....was what was said about the Southwest  ment to be racist? 
 
Bill Merrill     bmerrill@...
 
 

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