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#11830 From: art_education@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri Dec 1, 2006 12:57 pm
Subject: File - Art Education Listgroup Monthly Reminder
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#11831 From: Ken Rohrer <kenroar@...>
Date: Fri Dec 1, 2006 2:41 pm
Subject: Re: Mona Claus
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Holly,

I don't see an attachment with your image. Are you
sending it to me by e-mail?

Ken

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Re: Mona Claus
Posted by: "Holly Kincaid" hkincaid@...
Thu Nov 30, 2006 1:44 pm (PST)
I love the design... I thought I would send you a
little image that you
inspired me to do from seeing your MONA..... Vangogh
with one ear muff!

Holly Bess Kincaid
Art Lady
Robinson Elementary
hkincaid@ccsid. net

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Mona Claus
Posted by: "Ken" kenroar@...   kenroar
Thu Nov 30, 2006 1:25 pm (PST)
The Incredible Art Department is now offering
Christmas sweatshirts
and jackets for art teachers. They feature Mona Lisa
dressed up as
Santa Claus and the phrase, "Art Teachers Are Jollier"
on the backs.
You can get yours at:

http://www.princetonol.com/groups/iad/links/
shirtstore.html

Happy Holidays!
Ken Rohrer



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#11832 From: bruthrobson@...
Date: Fri Dec 1, 2006 9:54 am
Subject: Chihuly Dick Blick Lesson
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I was all set up to do this for a Christmas ornament possibly or maybe just a christmas gift for the student's moms, etc.  But when I tried it, the plastic paper just sat there!
WHat did I do wrong?  Has anyone tried this????

Stuck now w/out a Christmas lesson

Brenda

http://www.dickblick.com/lessonplans/2006chihuly/

#11833 From: "Hillmer, Jan" <hillmjan@...>
Date: Fri Dec 1, 2006 3:15 pm
Subject: RE: Chihuly Dick Blick Lesson
hillmjan
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I have not done this, but I’d check your water temp. – maybe it was not hot enough or too hot.  Hope this helps!

Jan

 


 

I was all set up to do this for a Christmas ornament possibly or maybe just a christmas gift for the student's moms, etc.  But when I tried it, the plastic paper just sat there!
WHat did I do wrong?  Has anyone tried this????

Stuck now w/out a Christmas lesson

Brenda

http://www.dickblick.com/lessonplans/2006chihuly/


#11834 From: Tanya Riehle <triehle@...>
Date: Fri Dec 1, 2006 3:48 pm
Subject: Re: Chihuly Dick Blick Lesson
tjcreations
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I had the same problem!!!  I followed the steps to a t!!!  Water temp was perfect, I even tried it hotter and I couldn’t get it to work if my life depended on it.  So I scrapped the project.  Is there anyone out there that has gotten it to work.  I thought the project would be very good to use in my drawing and design class.  I thought I would use it along with his website.  

Tanya

#11835 From: bruthrobson@...
Date: Fri Dec 1, 2006 11:09 am
Subject: Re: Chihuly Dick Blick Lesson
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well my temp was right because I have an electic skillet.  The instructions said no hotter or we'd have dangerous fumes. 
The plastic just sat there, coulldn't be molded

#11836 From: bruthrobson@...
Date: Fri Dec 1, 2006 11:29 am
Subject: Re: Chihuly Dick Blick Lesson
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I feel like asking for my money back!!!
Brenda

#11837 From: "Hillmer, Jan" <hillmjan@...>
Date: Fri Dec 1, 2006 5:49 pm
Subject: RE: Chihuly Dick Blick Lesson
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Ask for a refund!

 


From: art_education@yahoogroups.com [mailto:art_education@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of bruthrobson@...
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 11:09 AM
To: art_education@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [art_education] Chihuly Dick Blick Lesson

 

well my temp was right because I have an electic skillet.  The instructions said no hotter or we'd have dangerous fumes. 
The plastic just sat there, coulldn't be molded


#11838 From: bruthrobson@...
Date: Fri Dec 1, 2006 1:05 pm
Subject: Re: Chihuly Dick Blick Lesson
bruthrobson
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I just did, we'll see.
THanks ALL!
Brenda

Tanya you ought to also....

#11839 From: "Sarah Coullard" <scoullard@...>
Date: Thu Nov 30, 2006 4:20 pm
Subject: Re: Winter Art
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I have really enjoyed reading all of your replies about winter art--so many great ideas!! 
 
Thanks for all of your help :-)
 
Sarah C.
Grand Rapids, MI

#11840 From: "Ken" <kenroar@...>
Date: Fri Dec 1, 2006 10:27 pm
Subject: Art Teacher Openings- NAEA
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ART TEACHER OPENINGS: SELECTED STATES

Circulated as a public service by the
NATIONAL ART EDUCATION ASSOCIATION
www.naea-reston. org

Circulation Date: DECEMBER 1, 2006

NOTICE: NAEA encourages circulating this listing to art education students
and university art education departments.

NEW YORK

ART TEACHER
Employer: Saint Johnsville Central School District
Posting Date: 10/25/2006
Contact: Mrs. Christine Battisti, Superintendent, Saint Johnsville Central
School District, 61 Monroe St., St Johnsville, NY 13452
Phone: (518) 568-7023

ART TEACHER
Employer: Massena Central School District
Posting Date: 10/25/2006
Contact: Mrs. Susan K. Saber, District Clerk, Massena Central School
District, 84 Nightengale Ave., Massena, NY 13662
Phone: (315) 764-3700

IOWA

ELEMENTARY ART TEACHER (4 POSITIONS)
Employer: Des Moines Public Schools
Posting Date: Nov 21, 2000
Contact: Tom Mitchell, Deputy Director, Human Resources Management,
Des Moines Public Schools, 1801 16th Street, Des Moines, Iowa
50314-1992’
Fax: 515-242-7710; APPLY: www.dmps.k12. ia.us.

HS ART TEACHER (position for 2007-2008)
Employer: Pleasant Valley Comm School District, Pleasant Valley, IA 52767
Posting Date: Nov 20, 2006
Contact: Kelly Hatler
Phone: 563-332-5550; Email: hatlerk@pleasval. k12.ia.us

ARIZONA

MIDDLE ART TEACHER
Employer: Piñon Unified School District #4, P.O. Box 839 Pinon, AZ 86510
Posting Date: Nov 20, 2006
Contact: Human Resources Department
Phone: (928) 725-3450; Fax: (928) 725-2123

ALABAMA

ART TEACHER
Employer: Mobile Public Schools
Posting Date: October 30, 2006
Contact: Certified Personnel Department, Division of Human Resources,
Mobile
Public Schools, P. O. Box 1327, Mobile, AL 36633-1327
Phone: (251) 221-4519.

MASSACHUSETTS

ART TEACHER /Special Education Teacher
Employer: Assabet Valley Collaborative, Marlborough
Posting Date: 10/26/06
Contact: Cathy Cummins
Phone: 508-485-9430 (Ext: 463); FAX: 508-624-7130

MISSOURI

ELEMENTARY ART TEACHER (position for 2007-2008)
Employer: Woodland R-IV School District, RR3, Box 3210,_Marble Hill,
MO 63764
Posting Date: 21-Nov-06
Phone: (573)238-3343
ARKANSAS

K-12 ART TEACHER
Employer: Cabot Public Schools
Posting Date: 8/21/2006
Contact: http://cabot. k12.ar.us

ART TEACHER
Employer: Plainview/Fourche Valley Schools
Posting Date: 10/16/2006
Contact: Mary Ballard
Telephone: (479) 299-6230; FAX: (479) 299-4050; E-MAIL:
Mary.Ballard@ fvs.K12.ar. us

PENNSYLVANIA

ART TEACHER
Employer: Pennridge SD, Perkasie, PA 18944
Posting Date: 11-17-2006
Contact: Shellie Feola, Human Resources
Telephone: (215) 453-2715; Fax: (215) 453-8699; E-MAIL:
ebrown@pennridge. org

ART TEACHER
Employer: Colonial School District, 230 Flourtown Road, Plymouth
Meeting, PA 19462
Posting Date: 11-19-2006
Contact: Leticia Erickson, HR Manager
Telephone: 610-834-1670; FAX: (610) 834-7535

WISCONSIN

ELEMENTARY ART TEACHER
Employer: Muskego-Norway School District
Posting Date: Nov 21
Contact: Robert Rammer, Asst. Supt., Muskego-Norway School District, S87
W18763 Woods Road, Muskego, WI 53150
Phone: (262)679-5400

ELEMENTARY ART TEACHER
Employer: Heart of City of Milwaukee public charter school
Posting Date: Nov 21
Contact: Barbara Lee, Learning Facilitator, c/o Academy of Learning and
Leadership, 1530 W. Center Street, Milwaukee, WI 53206
Phone: (414) 372-3942; FAX (414)372-8260; E-MAIL: blee@all-milwaukee. org

ELEMENTARY ART TEACHER
Employer: Menominee Indian School District, N522 STH 47/55. Keshena,
WI 54135-1330
Posting Date: Nov 16
Contact: Glenda Kaquatosh
Phone: 715/799-3824

NEW JERSEY

ART TEACHER
Employer: Plainfield Public Schools, 504 Madison Ave. Plainfield, NJ 07060
Posting Date: Nov-20-2006
Contact: Human Resources Department
Phone: 908 731-4328; Fax: 908 731-4332; E-mail: jobs@plainfield. k12.nj.us

ART TEACHER
Employer: Atlantic County Schools
Posting Date: Nov 19
Contact: Dr. YoRel Browne, 900 W. Leeds Avenue, P.O. Box 960,
Pleasantville, NJ 08232
Phone: (609) 383-6800; Fax:(609) 677-8121

ART TEACHER
Employer: Mercer County Special Services School District
Posting Date: Nov 19
Contact: Lynne Tomicki, Human Resources Coordinator, Mercer County Special
Services School District, Administrative Offices, 1020 Old Trenton
Road, Hamilton, NJ 08690
Facsimile: 609-570-1158; E-Mail: jobs@mcsssd. org

ILLINOIS

HS ART TEACHER
Employer: Washington Comm HS #308
Posting Date: 11/16/2006
Contact: Dr. Jim Dunnan, Superintendent, 115 Bondurant Street,
Washington, IL 61571

HIGH SCHOOL ART TEACHER (photography)
Employer: New Trier Township High School District 203, Winnetka, IL
Posting Date: 10/20/2006
Contact: www.newtrier. k12.il.us/ district203/ personnel/ employment. htm

FLORIDA

ART TEACHER (2 Positions)
Employer: Broward County Public Schools
Posting Date: Nov 20, 2006
Apply: http://www.broward. k12.fl.us/ teacher/

WEST VIRGINIA

HS ART TEACHER
Employer: Mineral County Schools
Posting Date: 2006-11-29
Contact: Robert P. Mason, Asst. Supt. _Mineral County Schools _One Baker
Place _Keyser, WV 26726
Fax (#304-788-4204) : E-mail (rmason@access. k12.wv.us)

TEXAS

MIDDLE ART TEACHER
Employer: Jacksonville ISD
Posting Date: Nov-21-2006
Contact: Nancy Lee, Director of Human Resources Jacksonville ISD, P.
O. Box
631, Jacksonville, Texas 75766
Phone: 903-586-6511x34; E-mail: nlee@jacksonvilleis d.org

#11841 From: "Valerie Pientka" <vpientka@...>
Date: Sat Dec 2, 2006 1:42 am
Subject: Re: designing board games
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Thanks Holly, I appreciate the help. Val in IL

>From: "Holly Kincaid" <hkincaid@...>
>Reply-To: art_education@yahoogroups.com
>To: <art_education@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [art_education] designing board games
>Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 10:55:28 -0600
>
>Many years ago, I worked with a 4th grade teacher on designing board
>games to go with a story the kids were reading in English. I  had the
>students look at a variety of board games and we discussed the main
>theme of the game. For example whether the game was a trivia game, card,
>logical, adventure, interactive fiction or role playing.
>The kids discussed rules of the game or directions.
>
>Once they had an "overview" of different types of games we used a few
>as our main inspiration. With several different board games for examples
>the kids were divided into groups to create games. As teams they created
>the board, cards, pieces, or other elements of the game. Directions had
>to be clear and there needed to be an explanation of how the game would
>be won. After they finished their games the teams practiced playing
>their game and then presented it to the class. The teams rotated around
>the room playing each others games. This would be a wonderful
>opportunity for kids to have a rubric to critic all the games and see
>which game was the most fun, unique, creative or had the best design.
>
>This web site might also be of interest:
>http://edweb.sdsu.edu/Courses/EDTEC670/boardgame/BoardGameDesign1.html
>
>Holly Bess Kincaid
>Art Lady
>Robinson Elementary
>hkincaid@...
>
>"Every child is an artist. The problem is how to remain an artist once
>we grow up. "
>Pablo Picasso
>
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#11842 From: Kelli Wilke <kdenne14@...>
Date: Sat Dec 2, 2006 1:55 am
Subject: RE: Art teacher on a cart for the first time.
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Bless all of you who have to travel to your students from room to room, whether it be on a cart or not.  Teaching is challenging enough without having to carry your own water and water bucket!  Next time I want to complain about something in my room, I'll hold my tongue and think of you guys!  Don't lose that passion for what you do because that is obviously what you have!
 
Kelli in NE

Lisa Fishbein <lmfishbein@...> wrote:
I actually do not have a room and I don't use a cart - four floors - no
elevators - 2 minutes between classes. When I paint, we newspaper the
tables, I carry a water bottle full of water (not every class has a sink)
and a bucket for dumping the water in - that way just one or two students
can go rinse in the slop sinks that are in the halls. When I paint, I use
muffin tins and cupcake liners to hold the paint and just carry the paint
bottles in a large plastic double basket with a handle. At the end of the
session, I just dump the cupcake liners with the paint. For hand washing, I
ask the classes to bring baby wipes - just have them clean their hands first
and then any spots on their desks that may have gotten a little messy. Best
of luck to you.

>From: "daughertyjm79" <daughertyjm79@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: art_education@yahoogroups.com
>To: art_education@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [art_education] Art teacher on a cart for the first time.
>Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 18:03:56 -0000
>
>Last school year my husband and I made a decision to move closer to
>our family which meant saying good bye to my classroom. I took a job
>in St. Louis city and when I asked about a room, they skated the
>issue. It ended up that I did not get a room. So now I have to adjust
>my way of teaching because I am not in my own environment. I am making
>progress, but I want to start painting. How do I do that? Some of the
>teachers are also not very fond of messes, and I know that should not
>let that bother me, but it does. Any advice any of you have about
>teaching art from a cart let me know. I could really use the help.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Jill in St. Louis
>

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#11843 From: "Sheba" <shebaduhkitty@...>
Date: Sat Dec 2, 2006 2:20 am
Subject: Re: technology in the art room?
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--- In art_education@yahoogroups.com, "staiberic" <staiberic@...>
wrote:
> Would anyone have some tech lesson ideas I could use.

These are some fun piant ones that are pretty easy

http://www.carolynrobertsart.com/paint.htm

Sheba~Cynthia Artist/ Educator "multi-faceted creative visionary"
Middle School 6-8 Art and Technology Washington State
The ART Site
http://www.sheba-kitty-productions.com/
The School Site
http://thevirtualclassroom.org/

#11844 From: "Sheba" <shebaduhkitty@...>
Date: Sat Dec 2, 2006 2:53 am
Subject: cooperation and respect lessons?
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We have a particularily difficult group of 6th graders this year.
Lots of disrespect, name calling and bullying. They are very
immature and floundering in the middle school setting on so many
levels. The counselors are going to be doing some lessons in January
to work on empathy and cooperation etc... to try and get this group
of kids to survive working with each other throughout the rest of
the next 3 years.

I volunteered to incorporate some art lessons too...here are some of
my ideas so far.

starting with some cooperative sculptures along the lines of my
garbage animals
http://thevirtualclassroom.blogspot.com/2005/09/beginning-of-2005-
2006.html

then perhaps some packaging/logo/advertisment sort of thing where
they have to "sell" a positive character trait. Like "Friendship
O's" with a list of ingredients.

then perhaps some comics with positive super heros
http://www.krisfontes.com/autobiographical_comics.htm
http://www.princetonol.com/groups/iad/lessons/middle/Jennie-
cartoon.htm

Later I want them to make puppet/dolls of someone they admire with
details about how they represent a good citizen. the other idea is
to have maybe have them make one of a classmate that they are paired
up with showing them in the most positive light... but I will have
to get to know them better before I want to go there.
http://www.princetonol.com/groups/iad/files/world.htm
http://www.hanniesarris.nl/page.php?page=sculpting_fairy_head&lang=en

I also like the idea of doing some self-portraits like a 3-D
head/face with positive words like this one
http://www.princetonol.com/groups/iad/lessons/middle/Lessons/7sculpt.
htm
or this one Fill your head with positive thoughts on
http://www.princetonol.com/groups/iad/lessons/elem/selfport.htm

So those are a few ideas so far, anyone have any other great ideas?

Sheba~Cynthia Artist/ Educator "multi-faceted creative visionary"
Middle School 6-8 Art and Technology Washington State
The ART Site
http://www.sheba-kitty-productions.com/
The School Site
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#11845 From: "Sarah Coullard" <scoullard@...>
Date: Thu Nov 30, 2006 4:08 pm
Subject: Metal embossing
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I want my 7/8 graders to do some embossing on metal (copper, brass, or whatever...).  What kind do you guys order?  Where do you order it from?
 
Sarah Coullard
Grand Rapids, MI

#11846 From: "Susan Michael" <chemicalmango@...>
Date: Sat Dec 2, 2006 4:44 am
Subject: Re: Metal embossing
chemicalmango
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When I did this project I cut the sheets into small 4x6 sheets. It still cost a bit. One site I saw suggested using heavy aluminum foil. A cheap option ...Ask the cafeteria to save you the lids from the lids from frozen lasagna meals. Ask Michaels or Hobby Lobby, or other craft store to sponsor your project. Susan M.
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Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 10:08 AM
Subject: [art_education] Metal embossing

I want my 7/8 graders to do some embossing on metal (copper, brass, or whatever...).  What kind do you guys order?  Where do you order it from?
 
Sarah Coullard
Grand Rapids, MI


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#11847 From: "littleredhenschool" <littleredhenschool@...>
Date: Sat Dec 2, 2006 6:27 am
Subject: Re: Metal embossing
littleredhen...
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Pie and pot pie tins, and Stouffer's frozen entree tins
(rectangular) work well, too... and with these, you have a ready-
made "frame" for the picture, or you can snip it off.

-julie
HomeschoolDiner.com

--- In art_education@yahoogroups.com, "Susan Michael"
<chemicalmango@...> wrote:
>
> When I did this project I cut the sheets into small 4x6 sheets. It
still cost a bit. One site I saw suggested using heavy aluminum
foil. A cheap option ...Ask the cafeteria to save you the lids from
the lids from frozen lasagna meals. Ask Michaels or Hobby Lobby, or
other craft store to sponsor your project. Susan M.
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Sarah Coullard
>   To: art_education@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 10:08 AM
>   Subject: [art_education] Metal embossing
>
>
>
>   I want my 7/8 graders to do some embossing on metal (copper,
brass, or whatever...).  What kind do you guys order?  Where do you
order it from?
>
>   Sarah Coullard
>   Grand Rapids, MI
>
>
>   .
>

#11848 From: "tmwillis72" <tmwillis72@...>
Date: Sat Dec 2, 2006 1:42 pm
Subject: Quality of work
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I have noticed that my students work doesn't have the quality or
craftsmanship I would like. I am at a loss on how to get them to
produce better work. They just scribble and rush through.

Is anyone having the same experience.

Thanks for your help.

Tammy

#11849 From: "John Bundy" <jibundy@...>
Date: Sat Dec 2, 2006 5:06 pm
Subject: Re: Metal embossing
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When I taught elementary art I used Throw away Aluminum Pie Pans. To Make Angels for Christmas I used 3 and 1/2 pans. Recycled from the Thanksgiving pies.We would cut out the flat circle. WATCH THE SHARP EDGES. Cut one circle in half make a cone shape for skirt or body, the other half we made a head with long hair this was attached to the seam on the back of cone or skirt. We folded next circle to make wings. The next circle we made a large radial halo . the other half circle we made arms. Use liquid nails or hot glue gun to assemble.  Emboss all metal parts before gluing. We used pencils to emboss and an open phonebook to back the metal. Don't forget you can emboss both sides. Best order to glue Make cone skirt glue seam. glue arms to seam at top of cone, glue head on back of arms chin just above point of cone. next glue wings behind shoulder area . last glue center of halo to back of head. halo is in a vertical position. I hope the attached image helps. Merry Christmas    John Bundy Highland High School Anderson, Indiana. I see you are from Grand Rapids My Wife is Director of Admissions at Western Michigan U. Kalamazoo
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Subject: [art_education] Metal embossing

I want my 7/8 graders to do some embossing on metal (copper, brass, or whatever...).  What kind do you guys order?  Where do you order it from?
 
Sarah Coullard
Grand Rapids, MI


#11850 From: bruthrobson@...
Date: Sat Dec 2, 2006 12:34 pm
Subject: Re: Metal embossing
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John!
What a great lesson!
I may do it.
Do you have any pics of completed ones by chance?
Brenda

#11851 From: K Olson <katholson@...>
Date: Sat Dec 2, 2006 5:50 pm
Subject: Re:Metal embossing
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I buy rolls of tooling foil from NASCO.  It comes in aluminum, copper, and brass in different lengths. A 12inch roll, 25 feet long is $13.

I use it for masks, Christmas ornaments, and texture and pattern projects.  I used it this week to make textured fish.  It cuts with scissors, but holds it's shape.  Permanent markers work nice for adding color. 

http://www.enasco.com

Go to the Arts and Crafts Catalog and search for tooling foil.

Kathy Olson


#11852 From: Cyn Blamire <blamirecyn@...>
Date: Sat Dec 2, 2006 6:20 pm
Subject: Re: Quality of work
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Tammy,

I've just started teaching art this August at an
elementary school. At the beginning of the year, I was
also unhappy with the quality of the work. That's
beginning to change. The majority of my students are
improving. I think it's because I have been really
pushing them. I don't subscribe to the idea that you
will "Crush" a child's creativity by giving them
constructive criticism and feedback. After they have
made some changes I give them lots of sincere praise
and I will ask them if they see how much better their
work looks. I don't always tell them exactly how to
change something. I try to get them to see what's not
working and come up with their own solution. You can
see the joy and pride in their faces.

With the kids who are resistant or just "rushing
through things" I remind them that their teachers
won't accept a paper with poor grammar, spelling
mistakes and sloppy handwriting. I tell them that I
have the same expectations. You will always have the
few who continue to resist, but I have found those are
the same who are having trouble in all areas.

I try whenever possible to talk about their art at the
end of a project. Getting them to discuss specific
reasons why one piece is successful and one is less
successful. Once they see what the other students have
done and we've had a discussion about the work,
several will try harder the next time because they
want their piece to be the one being labeled
successful. It also reinforces their understanding of
art elements and principles which will help them
improve their art. Once they see an improvement in
their work, that is really motivating to them. You
have to really try to boost their confidence, but be
sincere.

I have two students out of about 800 who still rush
through everything. I have a collection of art books
in my room and I tell them that they can sit and enjoy
a book. I'm hoping that will get them to slow down a
bit.

Hope this helps and keep trying.

Cyn
Florida




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#11853 From: Rivka Kehaty <rivkakehaty@...>
Date: Sun Dec 3, 2006 1:18 am
Subject: Re: Art teacher on a cart for the first time.
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>>>Bless all of you who have to travel to your students from room to room, whether it be on a cart or not. Teaching is challenging enough without having to carry your own water and water bucket>>>
 
Kelli I completely agree with you.  My heart went out to everyone on a cart, lugging their water and buckets up flights of steps! 
 
I had my own art room last year and it was heaven!  But, I started this year off with the principal saying, "Gee, I don't know where we'll put you this year.  Hmmmm??"  Did not inspire confidence in me.
 
It was decided to put me in the library.  Would sound okay, but the room is in the process of recovery and reorganization after Hurricane Katrina flooded our school.  We have a (wonderful) volunteer who is working hard in there, but I feel like an intruder.  She works there while I teach my class.  It's weird having another adult in the room with us.
 
The students do their art on a very large, very expensive (donated) and pristine wood conference table and it is surrounded by chairs upholstered in *white!* brocade.  So every beginning of class I have to move the white upholstered chairs to the wall (turned around to protect from splatters) and the students drag in chairs that are stored outside the classroom.
 
The fancy table must be double covered to protect it.  A student has already (accidently) added a scratch from a needleworking project!
 
I also lug water jugs into class, but I am so grateful to just have to walk down the school hallway with it and not up flights of steps like some of you!
 
I don't have a cart, so I have a cardboard box that I carry my supplies home in when I leave for the day.  I also bring home the students work because there is no where to store it.
 
Thanks for "listening".  I am not even ranting or complaining, just putting in my experience this year while I teach art.  I am the happiest in the classroom and love every minute of it-- even with all the inconveniences!    
 
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#11854 From: kamla ravikumar <kamla_rk@...>
Date: Sun Dec 3, 2006 1:54 am
Subject: Re: Metal embossing
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Hi,
 
Where can I get more information about a simple project in metal embossing for students?
I can sourse the materials but I need a step-by-step method for a simple lesson.
 
Thanks,
Kamla


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#11855 From: "Kris Fontes" <kfontes2@...>
Date: Sun Dec 3, 2006 1:51 am
Subject: Metal embossing
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Take a look at the metal etching of Linda Wood's students  at http://www.princetonol.com/groups/iad/lessons/middle/Linda-jewelry.htm I have done this with my middle school students and the work they produce is awesome.
Kris Fontes
Northwest Pa
 

#11856 From: kamla ravikumar <kamla_rk@...>
Date: Sun Dec 3, 2006 1:02 pm
Subject: Re:Metal embossing
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Thanks for the link to the metal embossing lesson.It was useful information.
 
Kamla


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#11857 From: "LarrySeiler" <lseiler@...>
Date: Sun Dec 3, 2006 2:04 pm
Subject: Re:Quality of work
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sometimes it can certainly be discouraging...
Teaching K-12 you see ages of kids and classes where one group working hard
will seem in a couple years to apparently care less.  Talking to the
classroom/homeroom teacher sometimes helps you beat up on yourself a bit
less.  Sometimes developing interests in boy/girl things are going
on...sports, the playground, at home.

I think life offers many distractions and confusing messages, and we compete
with McWorld to place emphasis that something can matter so much as to
mandate our attention.

I push...I mentor by example as an artist...but I am also human, and have
been discouraged of late for other reasons.

I saw from CBS news this past week that statistically right now 1 out of 32
adults in America is in prison, on parole, or probation.  Then we ended the
week with an inservice on "Carefrontation" ...one more strategy on getting a
handle on classroom management.  We see things that are falling apart in
society, but are as teachers expected to fix in the classroom.

Its about caring, and getting kids to care...but I see two problems...both
can be put forth by acronyms...

one is...
"kids don't care what you know until they know you care"

and two...
"the heart of the problem, is the problem of the heart"

I see that the growing "Golden Rule" today for many teens is-  "its not
wrong if you don't get caught"

Society seems to reward this idea.  Parents are role modeling it...and
somewhere in there we are attempting to put emphasis that bringing a right
attitude (or the one we want) is important when its art making time.  The
rest of the world is going many different directions, "H__ in a hand basket"
as they say...but in my room...HERE is what matters!!!

It is frustrating isn't it!

Kids that ask if they can do the simplest easiest thing to do...("will this
be easy?") and my response which throws them off guard is...."yeah...you're
right, too easy!  I wouldn't do it either!"  or...in wanting to be done with
a work..."Is this good enough?"  and I respond, "sure...no problem.  Here is
your grade."   to their..."Whhhaaaaaat?  ...you're giving me a D grade?"
....and I then end with, "sure, isn't a D...(pause for emphasis)  GOOD
ENOUGH?"

Hang in there...model excellence.  Find joy in those students that are
demonstrating growth, positive change.  Keep at it!

Larry

#11858 From: "pent19" <pent19@...>
Date: Sun Dec 3, 2006 5:32 pm
Subject: Re: Quality of work
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How about making teacher samples and showing the steps to get there.
Students make simply not know how to make quality work or what
craftsmanship is.  I just finished a clay project with Studio students
and focused on craftsmanship. I showed them how to blend and smooth
and how to get rid of "clay boogers" that are left behind after
carving into the surface. I let them know that a sharp edge could hurt
someone where as a beveled edge looks better and won't hurt anyone.
Same could go for fingerprints and smudges, dog-eared corners on work.
   I also include craftsmanship/quality when grading. Having the
aforementioned will affect to overall grade, just like an artwork in
the musuem.
Michele NY

--- In art_education@yahoogroups.com, "tmwillis72" <tmwillis72@...> wrote:
>
> I have noticed that my students work doesn't have the quality or
> craftsmanship I would like. I am at a loss on how to get them to
> produce better work. They just scribble and rush through.
>
> Is anyone having the same experience.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Tammy
>

#11859 From: "wanda smith" <wsmith72104@...>
Date: Sun Dec 3, 2006 6:26 pm
Subject: Re: Quality of work
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Many times the age of the student has a lot to do with the quality
too. I teach 8th and 9th graders and they are all about instant
satisfaction. I really have to stress the importance of neatness and
craftsmanship to them especially the guys. They come to us from the
middle school where they have art once a week but do NOT receive a
grade for their work, an enrichment class, so they think they have to
rush to get things finished. It takes me several months to get
through to them and some never get it. I use the following grading
rubric:
20 points each:
following directins
creativity/orginality
working to potential
staying on task
turning in on time(if turned in late due to wasting time 20 points
deducted)
(if absent or a meticulous worker I still count off for lateness but
adjust accordingly)
Wanda




--- In art_education@yahoogroups.com, "pent19" <pent19@...> wrote:
>
> How about making teacher samples and showing the steps to get there.
> Students make simply not know how to make quality work or what
> craftsmanship is.  I just finished a clay project with Studio
students
> and focused on craftsmanship. I showed them how to blend and smooth
> and how to get rid of "clay boogers" that are left behind after
> carving into the surface. I let them know that a sharp edge could
hurt
> someone where as a beveled edge looks better and won't hurt anyone.
> Same could go for fingerprints and smudges, dog-eared corners on
work.
>   I also include craftsmanship/quality when grading. Having the
> aforementioned will affect to overall grade, just like an artwork in
> the musuem.
> Michele NY
>
> --- In art_education@yahoogroups.com, "tmwillis72" <tmwillis72@>
wrote:
> >
> > I have noticed that my students work doesn't have the quality or
> > craftsmanship I would like. I am at a loss on how to get them to
> > produce better work. They just scribble and rush through.
> >
> > Is anyone having the same experience.
> >
> > Thanks for your help.
> >
> > Tammy
> >
>

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