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Happy Chanukah Gill !
I hope you and yours are having a wonderful Holiday season.
Thank you for your service to our country and the free world for so many years.



--- On Thu, 12/10/09, gengreb@... <gengreb@...> wrote:

From: gengreb@... <gengreb@...>
Subject: [Army Rangers] Stolen Valor
To: rangerlist@yahoogroups.com, armyrangers@yahoogroups.com,
ASA_MI@yahoogroups.com, list@...,
SeniorsOverSixty@yahoogroups.com, ralphpuckett@...
Cc: omahaharleydday44@..., jmmpanama@..., melindabarreras@...,
rnelson@..., wbrawley@..., baghdadbutch@...
Received: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 8:11 PM







 









       http://www.reportst olenvalor. org/. This website was just launched today.
Please report any suspicions of someone falsifying their awards, service, or
valor. RLTW





















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http://www.reportstolenvalor.org/. This website was just launched today. Please
report any suspicions of someone falsifying their awards, service, or valor.
RLTW

Bonny Blue Flag <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2F-drjUwNU&amp;NR=1> the
song.

Bonny Blue Flag <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonnie_Blue_Flag> from Wiki.

a little bit of interest historically, maybe...

Charlie A75


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Whatcha going to do, PL?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENFQoBC-KvU



Smith  5-70



"My choices in life were either to be a piano player  in a whore house or a
politician. And to tell the truth,  there's hardly any difference!



Harry Truman










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This art is sending a very good upper lip story, just isnt true those two
regions have not been under Gov control for decades. It will tke a major
military action to clean it up and that could start trouble nation wide. They do
have to do something  just not sure what they can do. Sending in armor was a
smart move. Disarming the local reserves was  very good move. Tim this is normal
in those areas. They have been off limits to US for years. Even in 74 my first
year there. Only military and some peace corp five have been killed there over
the years. They think everyone is CIA.
Unless something really major happens it wont cross over to the rest of the
country. PS if interested l have a list of escorts or bodyguards who work very
cheap. You wont get hurt unless they are dead.    PS or you wait till I heal up
and move back oover and l will be glad to get you security. Gun not a good idea
gun crime is auto. 10 yrs. You cannot permit on a tourist visa. I have currently
a shot gun and pistol permit. Once I move back will pay for full permit take six
months and cost $1000 that authorizes auto weapon down no restriction on shot
gun or pistol or auto pistol. But you have to own property or a business in
country.  That can be nothing more than give a buddy $10.00 to make you an
unpaid owner.

Dan MartinPicket Riders
Veterans and Bikers Civil Rights
Association Motorcycle Club
PRVBCRMC
AmVets 27  Judge Advacate  Past Commander  AL911/AV27  Office Manager  AL911/AV
Senior Senior Service Officer  blackwaterincorp@...  If you can read
than a Teacher   If you can read english thank a Soldier  A man can live about
40 days without  Food, 3 days without Water, and 8 minites without  Air, and one
second without Hope. 

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My Ranger Class was 4-69 - Graduated Holloween Day 68 in Florida (They later
moved Ranger Graduation to Benning)  - We all carried M-14's - no class photo
- I was also promoted to SSG at graduation - We were told there was less than
200 Ranger qualified enlisted in the Army at that time - TAC I remember was 
"RV" Ranger Voyles (later 2d Ranger Bn CSM and a orginial PSG in 1st Ranger Bn
when activated with KC Leuer)
CSM (Ret) Jim Fowler
RLTW
--- On Wed, 11/25/09, smbump <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


From: smbump <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Army Rangers] Re: Class numbers
To: armyrangers@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 25, 2009, 9:07 PM


 



It was very cold, especially with only one c-rat per day. We screwed up our
first resupply too (on Day 3, just before Whitmire to Basin), so missed a days
chow but the next PL did better with the subsequent link-up. I recall one night
when three of us wrapped up together and still about froze while laying in an
ambush position, our pants legs iced up as we had waded a little to get there.
Wonder if anyone followed through on the idea to sew their tabs on with white
thread signifying a winter class?

My tacs were from FL, and CPT Christensen was killed shortly after we graduated
during another class when he picked up a wire for a jeep to pull through, and it
was live. He was a great guy, and I recall his father was a herpatologist
somewhere in Florida, so he was very good with snakes. Seems like he'd been in
Lima Co in VN.

--- In armyrangers@ yahoogroups. com, charles fenwick <fenwickct@. ..> wrote:
>
> I remember November of '72 as being a cold winter where I was. How was it
> in the swamps? Frostbite 5 and barely alive? Thanks for the history...
>
> charlie A75
>
> On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 8:09 AM, smbump <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Here's what I remember - class numbers were numbered consecutively each
> > fiscal year. Until 1976 the federal FY started 01 July. I graduated
> > just prior to Thanksgiving of 1971, but my class was 5-72. So it was
> > the fifth class of FY 1972, which began 01 July and we started Ranger
> > School at the end of September 1971....but that was in FY72. Prior to
> > 1976 your classes would have been numbered starting 01 July; after that
> > they are now numbered starting 01 October. That means there were more
> > classes in 1976 since that year was 15 months long.
> >
> >
> > --- In armyrangers@ yahoogroups. com <armyrangers% 40yahoogroups. com>, "Al"
> > <al_2ndwolfhounds@ > wrote:
> > >
> > > David,
> > >
> > > I have a copy of my Ranger Training Evaluation Report and my orders
> > awarding the Ranger Tab. My class was definitely 10-68 with a graduation
> > date of 18 April 1968.
> > >
> > > You may misremember your class number. I finished the course almost 9
> > months before you started. Your class would definitely be x-69.
> > >
> > > Al Pare
> > >
> > > --- In armyrangers@ yahoogroups. com <armyrangers% 40yahoogroups. com>,
> > "davidaveryvmi68" david.l.avery@
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I've always been a bit confused by class numbers for Ranger School
> > classes. I've read that in theory they start with 1-yy at the start of
> > the federal fiscal year. But I've met rangers that I have no doubt were
> > not wannabees that report class numbers that don't seem quite to match
> > that pattern. My own class was 8-68 I'm pretty sure, not from any
> > official printed record, but from remembering the class had sort of a
> > motto of "Hawk Bait", adopted in part because it rhymed with "eight".
> > The class started in early November of 1968 and graduated in the latter
> > part of January 1969. I'm pretty sure of those approximate dates
> > because we had a Thanksgiving dinner on a hilltop at Harmony Church
> > during the Benning phase. The RI's had us assault a hill to find a
> > field kitchen on top with buffet tables, cooks wearing starched aprons,
> > turkey and all the trimmings. Ten minutes to eat. We got a short
> > Christmas furlough, followed by the Florida phase in early January 1969.
> > > >
> > > > If you check out the official ranger school archive of class photos
> > at https://www. benning.army. mil/rtb/photo. htm#68 you'll find some of
> > the photos have class dates written on the photos. 1-66 has a photo
> > dated Jul 8, 1965 - Sep 9, 1965 which would be consistent with numbering
> > starting with a Jul 1 fiscal year. The federal fiscal year was Jul 1 -
> > Jun 30 until 1977 when it became Oct 1 - Sep 30. 10-65 has a photo
> > dated May 12, 1965 - Jul 15, 1965. So if the yy is the fiscal year,
> > maybe my class number "really " was 8-69 and I only mis-remember it as
> > 8-68 since the class started in '68. Unfortunately the photos are no
> > help for my own class they did not take class photos in most of 1968-69,
> > though there is a photo of 2-70 graduating on Sep 16, 1969.
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>











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It was very cold, especially with only one c-rat per day.  We screwed up our
first resupply too (on Day 3, just before Whitmire to Basin), so missed a days
chow but the next PL did better with the subsequent link-up.  I recall one night
when three of us wrapped up together and still about froze while laying in an
ambush position, our pants legs iced up as we had waded a little to get there. 
Wonder if anyone followed through on the idea to sew their tabs on with white
thread signifying a winter class?

My tacs were from FL, and CPT Christensen was killed shortly after we graduated
during another class when he picked up a wire for a jeep to pull through, and it
was live. He was a great guy, and I recall his father was a herpatologist
somewhere in Florida, so he was very good with snakes. Seems like he'd been in
Lima Co in VN.

--- In armyrangers@yahoogroups.com, charles fenwick <fenwickct@...> wrote:
>
> I remember November of '72 as being a cold winter where I was.  How was it
> in the swamps?  Frostbite 5 and barely alive?  Thanks for the history...
>
> charlie A75
>
> On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 8:09 AM, smbump <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Here's what I remember - class numbers were numbered consecutively each
> > fiscal year. Until 1976 the federal FY started 01 July. I graduated
> > just prior to Thanksgiving of 1971, but my class was 5-72. So it was
> > the fifth class of FY 1972, which began 01 July and we started Ranger
> > School at the end of September 1971....but that was in FY72. Prior to
> > 1976 your classes would have been numbered starting 01 July; after that
> > they are now numbered starting 01 October. That means there were more
> > classes in 1976 since that year was 15 months long.
> >
> >
> > --- In armyrangers@yahoogroups.com <armyrangers%40yahoogroups.com>, "Al"
> > <al_2ndwolfhounds@> wrote:
> > >
> > > David,
> > >
> > > I have a copy of my Ranger Training Evaluation Report and my orders
> > awarding the Ranger Tab. My class was definitely 10-68 with a graduation
> > date of 18 April 1968.
> > >
> > > You may misremember your class number. I finished the course almost 9
> > months before you started. Your class would definitely be x-69.
> > >
> > > Al Pare
> > >
> > > --- In armyrangers@yahoogroups.com <armyrangers%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > "davidaveryvmi68" david.l.avery@
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I've always been a bit confused by class numbers for Ranger School
> > classes. I've read that in theory they start with 1-yy at the start of
> > the federal fiscal year. But I've met rangers that I have no doubt were
> > not wannabees that report class numbers that don't seem quite to match
> > that pattern. My own class was 8-68 I'm pretty sure, not from any
> > official printed record, but from remembering the class had sort of a
> > motto of "Hawk Bait", adopted in part because it rhymed with "eight".
> > The class started in early November of 1968 and graduated in the latter
> > part of January 1969. I'm pretty sure of those approximate dates
> > because we had a Thanksgiving dinner on a hilltop at Harmony Church
> > during the Benning phase. The RI's had us assault a hill to find a
> > field kitchen on top with buffet tables, cooks wearing starched aprons,
> > turkey and all the trimmings. Ten minutes to eat. We got a short
> > Christmas furlough, followed by the Florida phase in early January 1969.
> > > >
> > > > If you check out the official ranger school archive of class photos
> > at https://www.benning.army.mil/rtb/photo.htm#68 you'll find some of
> > the photos have class dates written on the photos. 1-66 has a photo
> > dated Jul 8, 1965 - Sep 9, 1965 which would be consistent with numbering
> > starting with a Jul 1 fiscal year. The federal fiscal year was Jul 1 -
> > Jun 30 until 1977 when it became Oct 1 - Sep 30. 10-65 has a photo
> > dated May 12, 1965 - Jul 15, 1965. So if the yy is the fiscal year,
> > maybe my class number "really " was 8-69 and I only mis-remember it as
> > 8-68 since the class started in '68. Unfortunately the photos are no
> > help for my own class they did not take class photos in most of 1968-69,
> > though there is a photo of 2-70 graduating on Sep 16, 1969.
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Didn't go to the doctor. Finagled my way out of it, and spent the day laying
a new floor in one of the cat rooms. Got that done, and next project is
building a wall between the garage (main cat hall) and the smaller cat room
with a door and one of them flip/flop pet doors. Talk about being spoiled,
They have Air Conditioning, Heating, automatic feeders and waterier, and a
real cats flush toilet. One of the neighbors asked if we would adopt HER!
Tom
A/75th
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Smith" <tomqsmith@...>
To: <armyrangers@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 5:05 PM
Subject: RE: [Army Rangers] Pneumonia?


> Hi Tom:
>
>
>
> I recommend sour mash whiskey (for medicinal purposes), hot showers, and
> lots of bed rest.  Works for me
>
>
>
> Smith  5-70  (The younger, handsomer Tom)
>
>
>
>  _____
>
> From: armyrangers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:armyrangers@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Tom Brizendine
> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 7:08 PM
> To: rangerlist@yahoogroups.com; armyrangers@yahoogroups.com;
> a75th@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Army Rangers] Pneumonia?
>
>
>
>
>
> Think I may have pneumonia again. If I do, this will be the third time.
> Feel
> just like I did before, kinda dizzy and my temperature is about 95
> degrees.
> Has been for the last three days, and I feel cold all the time. Got the
> heat
> at 76 degrees in the house, but still have to wear an insulated jacket to
> keep warm. Called the doctors office and told them I would be in on
> Thursday
> if I wasn't better, but Donna called them right back and made an
> appointment
> for me at 945 AM in the morning.
> Got to many things to do, ant got time for no damn hospital.
> Tom
> A/75th Rangers
>
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Take care of yourself old hooah, you will be needed.
Kyle Patterson
A Co 2/75 Badmuther

--- On Tue, 11/17/09, Tom Brizendine <tdbriz@...> wrote:


From: Tom Brizendine <tdbriz@...>
Subject: [Army Rangers] Pneumonia?
To: rangerlist@yahoogroups.com, armyrangers@yahoogroups.com,
a75th@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 5:08 PM


 



Think I may have pneumonia again. If I do, this will be the third time. Feel
just like I did before, kinda dizzy and my temperature is about 95 degrees. Has
been for the last three days, and I feel cold all the time. Got the heat at 76
degrees in the house, but still have to wear an insulated jacket to keep warm.
Called the doctors office and told them I would be in on Thursday if I wasn't
better, but Donna called them right back and made an appointment for me at 945
AM in the morning.
Got to many things to do, ant got time for no damn hospital.
Tom
A/75th Rangers

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Hi Tom:



I recommend sour mash whiskey (for medicinal purposes), hot showers, and
lots of bed rest.  Works for me



Smith  5-70  (The younger, handsomer Tom)



   _____

From: armyrangers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:armyrangers@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Brizendine
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 7:08 PM
To: rangerlist@yahoogroups.com; armyrangers@yahoogroups.com;
a75th@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Army Rangers] Pneumonia?





Think I may have pneumonia again. If I do, this will be the third time. Feel
just like I did before, kinda dizzy and my temperature is about 95 degrees.
Has been for the last three days, and I feel cold all the time. Got the heat
at 76 degrees in the house, but still have to wear an insulated jacket to
keep warm. Called the doctors office and told them I would be in on Thursday
if I wasn't better, but Donna called them right back and made an appointment
for me at 945 AM in the morning.
Got to many things to do, ant got time for no damn hospital.
Tom
A/75th Rangers

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[Randolph] Mark Brown died last spring.
   He was an advisor to a Vietnamese Ranger Bn.

Tom
[the younger]

Think I may have pneumonia again. If I do, this will be the third time. Feel
just like I did before, kinda dizzy and my temperature is about 95 degrees. Has
been for the last three days, and I feel cold all the time. Got the heat at 76
degrees in the house, but still have to wear an insulated jacket to keep warm. 
Called the doctors office and told them I would be in on Thursday if I wasn't
better, but Donna called them right back and made an appointment for me at 945
AM in the morning.
Got to many things to do, ant got time for no damn hospital.
Tom
A/75th Rangers

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Tom:  Since they are sending me money for my WW II disability, I'm not sending
them any, because, they'll think i have money to throw awy, and will stop
sending it to me!
                                       by:
Rusty Jones




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From: Tom Brizendine <tdbriz@...>
To: SpecialOperationsWar@yahoogroups.com; armyrangers@yahoogroups.com;
a75th@yahoogroups.com; rangerlist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, November 14, 2009 10:31:30 AM
Subject: [Army Rangers] Stirring the pot

 
On the news......"Obama is the worst president since Buchannan" .
It takes a LOT to beat out Jimmy Carter!
On the news...... "Treasury asking for donations".
DON'T give......It will only be spent by congress, and NOT to pay off the
national debt.
Tom
A/75th Rangers

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