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Yet another V review . . .


Finally, after almost dying of anticipation, I made it down to
Sayulita, Mexico for my two week vacation! On Friday I took the V-16
out for the first time. The weather was very strange for the Puerto
Vallarta area this time of year. Somehow, the southern jet stream
pulled a front all the way down to 20 degrees north and I got my
first ride in cruddy pre-frontal winds . . . . blowing about 9-18,
averaging about 12, and spitting rain. I'm 175 lbs and chose a wide
board and 25M lines.

Being way to eager to spend time setting up my new PL bar/lines, I
attached my homemade S-ARC setup figuring I'd have plenty of leeway
in my clamcleat adjuster to dial it in. Well, as you all probably
now better than me, S-ARC to V is like a Pinto to a Porsche. I'm
accustomed to being able to judge wind potential by the pull on my
harness, and with the S when I pull the bar in I'm basically
tranferring power from LE to TE lines rather than really powering
up. I put the kite up with (what I thought were) fairly tight rear
lines, and the kite didn't seem to have that much pull.

I waded into the shore break and couldn't even get up and planing
(embarrasing myself in front of a crowd). I knew something wasn't
right because even on my 1120 I could have come up and sunk back down
easily in that wind. I thought it over, remembered everyone's
Arcusers postings, and let my adjuster all the way out to a position
that would have instantly stalled my S. Whoa! What a difference!
Up and planing right away. I can hardly believe the amount of
depower the V has. I soon discovered that full power to depower also
only takes maybe 8-10 inches of bar movement.

After that, I was out for a full two hours getting the feel back in
my legs and learning the kite. What a BLAST! Tried a couple of
jumps and it was just like a smooth elevator--right up and gliding.
I starting riding the swells just outside the break and was amazed at
how much easier it was for me to adjust my speed to stay on the right
part of the wave. Never dropped the kite, and never lost my board.

My budgetary constraints have kept me riding S-Arcs way too long, but
I think I benefited in some ways. Like snowboarding on ice for a few
years and then finally riding soft powder conditions, I felt like I
could handle anything with the V. Yesterday was cloudy and rainy,
but the sun is out now and I can't wait to catch the afternoon
thermals later!

I'm definitely feeling the stoke!

Gideon

--- In arcusers@yahoogroups.com, "flynwildting" <wildtings@a...>
wrote:
>
> --- In arcusers@yahoogroups.com, "gideonlow" <gideonlow@y...> wrote:
> >
> > Definitely not my buddies doing this! These comments are from
the
> > arsehole type! I've been teaching a couple of friends--of course
on
> > ARCs, and they love it.
> >
> > BTW, nobody ever gives me a hard time AFTER they've seen me
riding
> > the ARC. Definitely the best revenge.
>
>
>
> Hey Gideon!
>
> How's the east coast treating you? Miss 3rd Ave.?
>
> It's probably too cold there still to start kiting, but I'll be
> looking forward to your V review.
>
> -Eric






Sun Feb 27, 2005 6:34 pm

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at first, i was determined not to let myself be affected by the v-hype (which, as you probably know, can be hard enough) but reading stuff like this obviously...
mulemik
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Feb 23, 2005
10:35 am

Mikkel, Appreciate your comments below on pre-V PLK's. They all suffer at the low end of their range when less ram air force makes them lose rigidity and go...
Grossnickle, T.O. (Ti...
grossnicklet
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Feb 23, 2005
12:57 pm

Hi just posted a reply and discovered that my account was bouncing and lost it.Well here goes again.And again had to re register To add to the last reply I...
mrfloat05
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Feb 23, 2005
1:42 pm

thanks for the reply... and thanks for defining "hype" correctly - very educational :-) i have always found the arcusers group to be loaded with good info, and...
mulemik
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Feb 23, 2005
2:26 pm

It has been a while since I flew a LEI but here is my take on it judging from what size kites other people are on when I ride. Meter for meter the LEI guys...
tswierkocki
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Feb 23, 2005
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mrfloat05
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Feb 23, 2005
9:05 pm

... Well now that I already look silly for posting the same response before noticing somebody else had already said it, has anybody heard any rumors yet about...
kiteboard2000
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Feb 24, 2005
2:11 am

... Mel Do us a favor...Give us more V- arc info, before you start up about 2nd gen. phantoms. As it is, V arcs haven't even made it to hawaii. I 'm not sure...
arc50eyedr
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Feb 24, 2005
8:23 am

... 2nd gen. phantoms. ... they exist. ... I guess now I look even more silly, since my first post ("get a V, if you want a better P") seems to have...
kiteboard2000
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Feb 26, 2005
2:55 am

... his Your boss had a V13 and sold it??? Could you possibly report why he did that? Changed to another brand perhaps? I remember you telling us he used the...
flejonklou
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Feb 26, 2005
10:53 am

... he ... Hi Fredrik. I never did a back to back with 13 V to 15 B..Totally different kites but..hmmm... The 15 B pivoted well on the tip but was not quick...
monkeyair
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Feb 26, 2005
5:25 pm

... Thanks Traig! Had a snowboard session with B15 and P12 today, really like the tip turning and rigid feeling of the B15 in the lulls, but since I am light I...
flejonklou
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Feb 26, 2005
10:17 pm

... Now that you mention it, that did sound bad, but he's already ordered another V13 to replace it, & only sold it in the first place because the guy really...
kiteboard2000
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Feb 27, 2005
12:00 am

... Meter ... Size ... I ... Hatteras ... a ... We ... the ... kites ... I'll ... happens ... different ... could ... kite ... The ... the ... PL ... also ... ...
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Feb 24, 2005
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... much ... or ... days. ... few ... inflated ... My ... session ... the ... and ... The ... now ... I ... the ... to ... great ... put ... loose ... Jumps ...
tswierkocki
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Feb 24, 2005
5:21 pm

A couple of more things to consider: - When the wind is up, you'll never have an issue with internal pressure in the kite and it will always remain properly...
gideonlow
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Feb 23, 2005
6:21 pm

... right. .... Why do they say you have the wrong kite? Are they your mates making friendly banter? Liar. Arc riders don't have any friends! :-D Are they...
Greg Walsh
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Feb 24, 2005
6:23 am

Definitely not my buddies doing this! These comments are from the arsehole type! I've been teaching a couple of friends--of course on ARCs, and they love it....
gideonlow
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Feb 25, 2005
5:31 pm

... Hey Gideon! How's the east coast treating you? Miss 3rd Ave.? It's probably too cold there still to start kiting, but I'll be looking forward to your V...
flynwildting
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Feb 25, 2005
7:36 pm

Finally, after almost dying of anticipation, I made it down to Sayulita, Mexico for my two week vacation! On Friday I took the V-16 out for the first time....
gideonlow
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Feb 27, 2005
6:34 pm

Nice one Gideon! Love to catch the stoke through reports like that. On an absolutely beautifull sunny day with fresh snow on the lake here and there is ...
Brent Helmstaedt
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