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Ellen -

Thanks for starting this on line discussion. Not sure if you have been getting responses to your thoughtful list of questions. If so,I haven't seen them so I am taking a shot hoping to inspire others to pitch in with their ideas.

To recap. Ellen agreed to put together a preliminary list of questions she thought all equity members needed to help decide as opposed to delegating them to the executive committtee or other committees. As I looked at here list it seems to me she went beyond this to raise a number of other issues that the group needs to address and ways we might address them. I am going to deal with her suggested list of issues requiring group decisions.

Decisions below should be by either simple majority of Equity Partners, unless we decide to call for either 2/3 vote or consensus vote. Stated as first issue:

A. Should equity decisions be by majority, by 2/3, or by consensus
B. The executive board members and full board to be elected, (what are the officer positions; this means: what do the bylaws say must be the positions. Therefore we need to vote on.
-- We currently have elected co presidents Linda and I, an elected vice president, Dianne Greenley, and an elected secretary Kathy Siefert. Peter McKeever is our agent as listed on our articles of incorporation and is serving as our treasure. The Executive Committee also includes the chairs of the three standing committees. Kimberley Wilson who chairs our community building committee and Carey Dachik who chairs our membership committee. I currently chair the Development Committee.

- I agree with Ellen that we should get the bylaws in place before holding another election.

C. The contents of by-laws, including authority of each officer, what shall be the occasions when the executive board a) can act unilaterally
                         b) can be overturned by a (%) vote of the equity members

(The by-laws, being condominium by-laws, must agree and conform with the Wisconsin Condominium statute)

D Fundamental aspects of the design of the project

        1) what should be the over-all design (a grassy commons in the middle? Parking
        within certain distance? Covered parking? A swimming pool or room for one later?
        2) what the common house should contain (# of guest rooms, hobby rooms,
        Laundry room? Facilities in kitchen such as size, nature of appliances, capacity
        for dining. Common bathrooms to serve guest rooms and dining room? TV room?)

3) mix of units and square footage for different sizes. ( This seems to have been decided by the architects. This may be necessary for the rehab of existing buildings but might not be and we need more information. The speaker this month said that a

two bedroom unit will have 1200 square feet (or did he say 900?)

4) design questions for five years from now. Should all our bathrooms have hold

bars next to toilet and in shower? Do we want to limit steps into various units? What about having some units that can accommodate wheelchairs? Heights of counters?

5) what will be the limited common element? What will be a full common element? Since

        there will be several structures, will the whole community replace the roof that is falling
        apart but only covers a few units beneath it? Will we charge extra purchase
        price for parking spaces?

Should a survey be designed by the equity group or all persons attending ($75) to be filled out by each members as to the size of the unit they would prefer to see where we stand on the current design or are our architects deciding the mix themselves? Because no survey has been done yet, this seems urgent (What each current equity member sees for their household).

- I agree that the equity membership needs to be involved in broad scale design issues. However, I think that involving the group in every aspect of design will make the process unwieldy at best and perhaps impossible. Here is my suggested list of group level decisions

UNIT DESIGN

1. Unit mix and unit size.

2. Minimum room size

3. Quality of finishes - do we want tile on tub surrounds or are acrylic surrounds adequate, for example.

2. Common unit amenities. eg will we have

-air conditioning,

- space for washer

- dyers patios/porches

- some level of accommodation for physical disabilities - wider doors grab barriers, levered door knobs etc.

WHAT OTHER UNIT DESIGN ISSUES DO YOU WANT A DIRECT SAY IN?

        COMMON HOUSE DESIGN
        1. How much common space should there be per unit?
        2. What common facilities should be provided -guest rooms. craft shops, play rooms storage, other.
        3. What level of finishes do we want?
        WHAT OTHER ISSUES ABOUT THE COMMON HOUSE DO YOU WANT A SAY IN?

        PARKING
        1. Number of on site parking spaces
        2. How spaces will be assigned and costs

        SITE DEVELOPMENT
        1. How will the open space be allocated will each unit have a garden spot for example.
        2. What amenities will be provided - play lot, garden, picnic area, for example.

ARE THERE OTHER DESIGN ISSUES I HAVE MISSED THAT YOU WANT A SAY IN?

The rest of the issues Ellen raises seem to be important but somewhat different in nature with a couple of possible exceptions.
E. Marketing - Does the membership need to review any document used in promoting ARBCO? If not what level of approval does the membership want for such approval?

F. Financial committments -
1. The group should be involved in making decisions about the number of units that should be presold before we close on the property and the downpayment or equity investment that must be made at the time of presale.
2. It should be involved before papers are signed making major financial commitments on the part of the group.
3. It should be involved in deciding on any major changes required by changes that occur in costs or financing.

ARE THERE OTHER DECISIONS THAT YOU THINK THE GROUP SHOULD HAVE A SAY IN?

I look forward to hearing / reading comments from other group members soon.

- John

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#38

From: Kathryn Seifert <kseifert660@...>
Date: Fri Nov 12, 2004 11:56 pm
Subject: Arbco Agenda for November 21'04 Mtg.

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#37

From: Niels Wolter <Wolter@...>
Date: Thu Nov 11, 2004 3:40 am
Subject: Re: Arboretum Cohousing Unit Size and Price Discussion

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My son and I live in 1100 ft2... it is poorly laid out and too big for us.  I
would look forward to a well laid out 940
ft2.  The smaller the home the less to clean and the less room to fill with
stuff.

N

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> From: Linda Merrill <madmerrill@...>
> Date: 2004/11/10 Wed PM 01:09:56 CST
> To: All AC <arbco-all@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [arbco-all] Arboretum Cohousing Unit Size and Price Discussion
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> Thanks Ellen and Lou for getting this discussion started.  The development
committee had been given the go ahead on several occasions to work with the
numbers from the January, 2004 meeting at Village Cohousing and the emerging
price of the property to come up with a work able solution for our developing
community.  This is the first time people outside of the development committee
have an opportunity to react to these numbers.
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> John and I for one raised one child in a three bedroom house about 1200 sq
feet.  After his leaving home we added our addition.  The house is now about
1400 sq feet.  The previous owners raised two children in the house.
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> After talking with folks at Village an adequate amount of common space is more
a concern than small unit size.  In my mind the overriding goal is the that we
keep the entire project affordable.  In my mind this means a delicate balance of
the number of units needed to sustain the project, the size of those units &
their subsequent price.  This is what the development committee tried to
achieve.
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> Keep the discussion up!
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#36

From: "Victor Villacrez" <vicvillacrez@...>
Date: Wed Nov 10, 2004 8:53 pm
Subject: RE: Arboretum Cohousing Unit Size and Price Discussion

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Linda and the group

I got a number of an individual that wants to start a cohousng group. They are the folks that have been living in Co-op Housing in Madison for sometime and are now interested in ownership. I gave this information out before but now I have a lead and a number. My contact suggest that there are up to 6 families looking. Maybe they would be interested in getting an invite to an upcoming meeting.

Lead: Tony Anderson 213-4735

Thanks

Victor Villacrez

-----Original Message-----
From: Linda Merrill [mailto:madmerrill@...]
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 1:10 PM
To: All AC
Subject: [arbco-all] Arboretum Cohousing Unit Size and Price Discussion

Thanks Ellen and Lou for getting this discussion started. The development committee had been given the go ahead on several occasions to work with the numbers from the January, 2004 meeting at Village Cohousing and the emerging price of the property to come up with a work able solution for our developing community. This is the first time people outside of the development committee have an opportunity to react to these numbers.

John and I for one raised one child in a three bedroom house about 1200 sq feet. After his leaving home we added our addition. The house is now about 1400 sq feet. The previous owners raised two children in the house.

After talking with folks at Village an adequate amount of common space is more a concern than small unit size. In my mind the overriding goal is the that we keep the entire project affordable. In my mind this means a delicate balance of the number of units needed to sustain the project, the size of those units & their subsequent price. This is what the development committee tried to achieve.

Keep the discussion up!

Linda Merrill

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#35

From: Linda Merrill <madmerrill@...>
Date: Wed Nov 10, 2004 7:09 pm
Subject: Arboretum Cohousing Unit Size and Price Discussion

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Thanks Ellen and Lou for getting this discussion started. The development committee had been given the go ahead on several occasions to work with the numbers from the January, 2004 meeting at Village Cohousing and the emerging price of the property to come up with a work able solution for our developing community. This is the first time people outside of the development committee have an opportunity to react to these numbers.

John and I for one raised one child in a three bedroom house about 1200 sq feet. After his leaving home we added our addition. The house is now about 1400 sq feet. The previous owners raised two children in the house.

After talking with folks at Village an adequate amount of common space is more a concern than small unit size. In my mind the overriding goal is the that we keep the entire project affordable. In my mind this means a delicate balance of the number of units needed to sustain the project, the size of those units & their subsequent price. This is what the development committee tried to achieve.

Keep the discussion up!

Linda Merrill

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#34

From: "lou" <lou@...>
Date: Tue Nov 9, 2004 6:45 pm
Subject: Re: Arboretum Cohousing Preliminary Unit Size & Prices

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i agree that this is an issue that we ought to revisit.  In my experience
with Village Cohousing, we found that this (and a few other key issues) had
to be revisited periodically, especially as new members came onboard and as
the core group evolves.

Of course, the unit sizes and mix came from the members, at our meeting some
months ago at the Village, via a tally of our personal household survey
sheets.  At that time, a number of people expressed the need for
small-to-modest sized units, with relatively fewer expressing the need for
large units.  We talked at some length about the tradeoffs between unit
sizes,  shared spaces and total project cost.  The existing houses we intend
to save and refurbish will provide 3- and 4-bedroom units in the 1,300 to
1,900 sq. ft.. range.

At the Village, many of the units were smaller than �the market�.   Generous
and well-designed community facilities are one of big differences between
couhousing and conventional projects, and one of the chief attractions.  In
order to make sure that the project as a whole is affordable to a diverse
range of households, the tradeoff of smaller units for sufficient shared
space is an important one to those who choose community living.  It�s a
characteristic of cohousing everywhere.

Lou

ellen  alexander writes:

> Hi all, Thanks Linda for forwarding the breakdown. I for one am very concerned
at the tiny sizes of many of the projected units. 1250 feet for a 3 bedroom? NO
such animal.... It is good that this breakout of units\prices has been done,but
doesn't the group have the say, rather than the architects? I mean, what if no
one wants to live in 600 or 700 square feet? I recommend that it is time to make
this an early (perhaps sole) agenda topic. Regards,
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Linda Merrill
>   To: All AC
>   Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 4:08 PM
>   Subject: [arbco-all] Arboretum Cohousing Preliminary Unit Size & Prices
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>   At the October Meeting Vic Villacrez(developer) volunteered with the help of
Lou Host-Jablonski (architect) to provide us with a preminary unit size and
price breakdown.  The following data contains their work.
>
>           Arboretum Cohousing     11/1/04
>           Preliminary Unit Size and Prices
>         New Units Sq Ft # of Units  Ave Price Price/USF
>         Studio-Market Rate 600 5 $165,000 $275
>         Studio-80% 1 Person 600 1 $114,000 $190
>         1Bedroom-Market Rate 700 7 $178,500 $255
>         1Bedroom- 80% 2 person 700 1 $140,000 $200
>         2 Bedroom-Market Rate 950 8 $242,250 $255
>         2 Bedroom-80% 3 person 950 1 $166,250 $175
>         3 Bedroom-Market Rate 1,250 3 $281,250 $225
>         Total 21,500 26 AVE $0
>         Existing Units
>         719 S Orchard # 1- 80% 2 Person 952 1 $150,416 $158
>         719 S Orchard # 2 80% 2 Person 952 1 $150,416 $158
>         719 S Orchard # 3 80% 2 Person 952 1 $150,416 $158
>         1129 Erin St-A 1,915 1 $358,105 $187
>         1130 Erin St-B  1
>         1133 Erin St 1,270 1 $237,490 $187
>         1147 Erin St 1,368 1 $255,816 $187
>         1155 Erin St 1,630 1 $304,810 $187
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>         Total 9,039 8
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#33

From: "ellen alexander" <arbalexander@...>
Date: Mon Nov 8, 2004 11:29 pm
Subject: Re: Arboretum Cohousing Preliminary Unit Size & Prices

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Hi all, Thanks Linda for forwarding the breakdown. I for one am very concerned at the tiny sizes of many of the projected units. 1250 feet for a 3 bedroom? NO such animal.... It is good that this breakout of units\prices has been done,but doesn't the group have the say, rather than the architects? I mean, what if no one wants to live in 600 or 700 square feet? I recommend that it is time to make this an early (perhaps sole) agenda topic. Regards,

----- Original Message -----

From: Linda Merrill

To: All AC

Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 4:08 PM

Subject: [arbco-all] Arboretum Cohousing Preliminary Unit Size & Prices

At the October Meeting Vic Villacrez(developer) volunteered with the help of Lou Host-Jablonski (architect) to provide us with a preminary unit size and price breakdown. The following data contains their work.

Arboretum Cohousing 11/1/04

Preliminary Unit Size and Prices

New Units Sq Ft # of Units Ave Price Price/USF

Studio-Market Rate 600 5 $165,000 $275

Studio-80% 1 Person 600 1 $114,000 $190

1Bedroom-Market Rate 700 7 $178,500 $255

1Bedroom- 80% 2 person 700 1 $140,000 $200

2 Bedroom-Market Rate 950 8 $242,250 $255

2 Bedroom-80% 3 person 950 1 $166,250 $175

3 Bedroom-Market Rate 1,250 3 $281,250 $225

Total 21,500 26 AVE $0

Existing Units

719 S Orchard # 1- 80% 2 Person 952 1 $150,416 $158

719 S Orchard # 2 80% 2 Person 952 1 $150,416 $158

719 S Orchard # 3 80% 2 Person 952 1 $150,416 $158

1129 Erin St-A 1,915 1 $358,105 $187

1130 Erin St-B 1

1133 Erin St 1,270 1 $237,490 $187

1147 Erin St 1,368 1 $255,816 $187

1155 Erin St 1,630 1 $304,810 $187

Total 9,039 8

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#32

From: Linda Merrill <arbcoho@...>
Date: Mon Nov 8, 2004 10:12 pm
Subject: Arboretum Cohousing Prliminary Unit Size and Prices

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At the October Meeting Vic Villacrez(developer) volunteered with the help of Lou Host-Jablonski (architect) to provide us with a preminary unit size and price breakdown. The attached Excel spreadsheet contains their work.

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#31

From: Linda Merrill <arbcoho@...>
Date: Mon Nov 8, 2004 10:08 pm
Subject: Arboretum Cohousing Preliminary Unit Size & Prices

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At the October Meeting Vic Villacrez(developer) volunteered with the help of Lou Host-Jablonski (architect) to provide us with a preminary unit size and price breakdown. The following data contains their work.

	Arboretum Cohousing			11/1/04
	Preliminary Unit Size and Prices
New Units	*Sq Ft*	*# of Units*	*Ave Price*	*Price/USF*
Studio-Market Rate	600	5	$165,000	$275
Studio-80% 1 Person	600	1	$114,000	$190
1Bedroom-Market Rate	700	7	$178,500	$255
1Bedroom- 80% 2 person	700	1	$140,000	$200
2 Bedroom-Market Rate	950	8	$242,250	$255
2 Bedroom-80% 3 person	950	1	$166,250	$175
3 Bedroom-Market Rate	1,250	3	$281,250	$225
Total	21,500	26	AVE	$0
Existing Units
719 S Orchard # 1- 80% 2 Person	952	1	$150,416	$158
719 S Orchard # 2 80% 2 Person	952	1	$150,416	$158
719 S Orchard # 3 80% 2 Person	952	1	$150,416	$158
1129 Erin St-A	1,915	1	$358,105	$187
1130 Erin St-B		1
1133 Erin St	1,270	1	$237,490	$187
1147 Erin St	1,368	1	$255,816	$187
1155 Erin St	1,630	1	$304,810	$187

Total	9,039	8

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#30

From: Linda Merrill <madmerrill@...>
Date: Mon Nov 8, 2004 2:07 pm
Subject: Arboretum Cohousing December Meeting Date

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I apologize for sending out the incorrect date for the December meeting. The correct date is the second Sunday, December, 12/12/2004, 3 to 5 PM, St. Marys Hospital. Please bring treats to share.

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#29

From: Catherine Joy <cassjoy@...>
Date: Sun Nov 7, 2004 10:15 pm
Subject: Re: Arboretum Cohousing Meeting Dates for Novemeber & December

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14th is TUes, is the meeting the 12th?

Linda Merrill wrote:

> Reminder!  The November meeting is Sunday, 11/21/2004, 5 to 7 PM, St.
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From: Linda Merrill <madmerrill@...>
Date: Sat Nov 6, 2004 2:34 pm
Subject: Arboretum Cohousing Meeting Dates for Novemeber & December

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Reminder! The November meeting is Sunday, 11/21/2004, 5 to 7 PM, St. Marys Hospital, Bay 1.

The December meeting is set for Sunday, 12/14/2004, 3 to 5 PM, St. Marys Hospital. The time has been changed because of scheduling difficulties due to the holadays.

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#27

From: "ellen alexander" <arbalexander@...>
Date: Mon Oct 25, 2004 5:32 pm
Subject: round robin first draft: questions for equity members

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October 25, 2004

To All Arboretum Co-Housing on Mail List

From Ellen Alexander

Introduction: as discussed at the October meeting, I have listed below
proposed subjects or issues to be voted on only by equity members. Everyone
is encouraged to insert their comments (diplomatically, I hope) and add new
items to this list, to both return just to me (arbalexander@...)
and also to forward to the whole list serve. (N.B: I am not a technie, so if
this instructions do not make sense, please propose different method.)

Decisions below should be by either simple majority of Equity Partners,
unless we decide to call for either 2/3 vote or consensus vote. Stated as
first issue:

A. Should equity decisions be by majority, by 2/3, or by consensus

B. The executive board members and full board to be elected, (what are the
officer positions; this means: what do the bylaws say must be the positions.
Therefore we need to vote on.

C. The contents of by-laws, including authority of each officer, what shall
be the occasions when the executive board a) can act unilaterally

b) can be overturned by a (%) vote of the equity members

(The by-laws, being condominium by-laws, must agree and conform with the
Wisconsin Condominium statute)

D Fundamental aspects of the design of the project

1) what should be the over-all design (a grassy commons in the middle?
Parking

within certain distance? Covered parking? A swimming pool or room for one
later?

2) what the common house should contain (# of guest rooms, hobby rooms,

Laundry room? Facilities in kitchen such as size, nature of appliances,
capacity

for dining. Common bathrooms to serve guest rooms and dining room? TV room?)

3) mix of units and square footage for different sizes. ( This seems to have
been decided by the architects. This may be necessary for the rehab of
existing buildings but might not be and we need more information. The
speaker this month said that a

two bedroom unit will have 1200 square feet (or did he say 900?)

4) design questions for five years from now. Should all our bathrooms have
hold

bars next to toilet and in shower? Do we want to limit steps into various
units? What about having some units that can accommodate wheelchairs?
Heights of counters?

5) what will be the limited common element? What will be a full common
element? Since

there will be several structures, will the whole community replace the roof
that is falling

apart but only covers a few units beneath it? Will we charge extra purchase

price for parking spaces?

Should a survey be designed by the equity group or all persons attending
($75) to be filled out by each members as to the size of the unit they would
prefer to see where we stand on the current design or are our architects
deciding the mix themselves? Because no survey has been done yet, this seems
urgent (What each current equity member sees for their household).



E. Marketing How we define and present ourselves from the start. This
includes the degree of "service to the whole" in sense of volunteer hours
per month on SOMETHING and that would be asked of all members, and that
prospective new members would be informed of (I found the PR pamphlet passed
around last week to describe the sense of co-housing fairly superficially in
the sense of "borrowing lawn equipment etc.) Should the equity members work
together SOON to create some serious language for both the PR materials and
our own statement of purpose (concept of mutual support.) This may exist
already and I have just not seen it..

F.Retreat Do we want a retreat of equity members to really hash out who we
are? Should our retreat perhaps have on the agenda what we expect from each
other or hope to have as part of the motives for joining this most
challenging venture.

G .Retreat Decisions re whether we want a mix of "affordable" units (to be
financed how?) Or whether we want a permanent or interim tenant component?
Do we want to be landlords only for those who hope someday to be able to
afford to join ? What will we do if the constructed units do not all sell
quickly.

H. Financial questions: Do we plan to build more units than we have
commitments? What comes first? The commitment to the community, or the
commitment to a specific kind of space. (For example,, because I'll do my
professional work at home, I strongly desire a three bedroom unit for me,
just me....)

I. Financial Proofs. At what point do we ask for proof of ability to
participate and what would that proof be? Pre-qualification for a certain
level of mortgage? Assets in the bank? Income? Do we want to create a form
to have all current and future applicants fill out. For this of course we
need what we have not yet gotten: an estimate of the range of purchase
prices for each type and size of unit as currently envisioned.

J.resale Down the road, means decide now. Resale of units. Will we allow the
"market" to decide that, including possibly considerable increase in value.
Will we require that the buyers down the line subscribe to the community?
What would that mean? If this is a condominium structure, will the members
have right of first refusal of prospective new owners? This cannot of course
be exercised in discriminatory fashion and also would require that the
entity be prepared to buy a unit. What if a unit put up for sale only
attracts buyers who want no part of co-housing? Will we require sellers to
keep looking?





Regards,Ellen Alexander

#26

From: "ellen alexander" <arbalexander@...>
Date: Mon Oct 25, 2004 3:36 pm
Subject: Emailing: arboretum roundrobin letter0

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Attachment is the first draft of questions proposed for all equity members.
sincerely Ellen Alexander

#25

From: Linda Merrill <madmerrill@...>
Date: Sat Oct 23, 2004 3:53 pm
Subject: Arboretum Cohousing Meeting Minutes 17Oct2004

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Really they were attached!

There are two attached files: the meeting minutes and the list serve instructions. I've extracted the following from the minutes as a reminder.

Action Items:

1. Ellen Alexander agreed to start a list of the questions that need decisions by the membership.

2. Vic Villacrez will circulate a list of current proposed unit sizes and estimated costs.

Next meeting 5 PM, Nov. 21, 2004, St. Marys Hospital, Bay 1.

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From: Linda Merrill <madmerrill@...>
Date: Sat Oct 23, 2004 3:22 pm
Subject: Arboretum Cohousing Meeting Minutes 17Oct2004 & List Serve Instructions

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Action Items are in bold, italic and underlined.

PRESENT: Ellen Alexander, Carey Dachik, Mark Daugherty, Marena Kehl, Peter McKeever, John Merrill, Linda Merrill, Jean Nielson, Roy Schenk, Kimberly Wilson, Vic Villacrez, and Neils Wolter

The group gathered at 5:00 PM for a shared meal. The meeting began at 5:35 PM convened by Neils Wolter. The meeting started with a group-building question facilitated by Kimberly Wilson.

DISCUSSION OF DECISION MAKING POLICY

As part of the continuing discussion of bylaw issues Dianne Greenley had prepared some information on options for decision-making. Linda Merrill introduced this material. The key issue for discussion was which decisions the membership as a whole makes and which should be delegated to a smaller group, for example a board of directors. After some general discussion, Neils suggested that we do a round robin, to assess everyone�s views. This assessment lead to the following decision: during the development stage of the group the group as a whole should make major decisions. The appropriate committee will research and bring a focus to issues before brought to the group for a decision.

Ellen Alexander agreed to start a list of the questions that need decisions by the membership. The list serve is the means she will use for circulating the list to get broader input. The initial list from Ellen will contain instructions for adding to the list. Prior to the next meeting, she also agreed to consolidate the list and share the consolidated list at the next meeting, either in person or via email.

STATUS OF NEGOTIATIONS WITH ST MARYS

Vic Villacrez presented a summary or two meetings with St. Marys staff since the last group meeting. These meetings have included St. Marys attorney. He reported that St. Marys is excited about the progress we have made and that they seem to feel we are not far apart. At the first meeting they asked that, we begin shopping for financing in hopes that we could reduce the gap between what St. Marys has offered and what we feel we can afford to pay. Vic and Catherine Joy have meet with staff form Johnson Bank and Home Savings Bank. Both banks seemed interested but raised issues which we need to address.

Unlike the typical developer, we do not have a �deep pocket� that can cover any shortfall if we do not sell units as quickly as we expect or costs are higher than expected.
They think our market budget is usually small
They wonder about the size of the market.

In response to these concerns, the development committee is proposing that we have a much higher goal for �pre-sold� units. It proposes that we have two-thirds of the units pre-sold before we close with St. Marys and make this a contingency on of the offer to purchase. John Merrill asked for reactions to this proposal. After some discussion, the group agreed with this contingency. One concern was whether St. Marys would give us time to find the approximately 22 buyers. Another concern was whether we are ready to do the necessary marketing � do we have marketing materials etc.?

Discussion than shifted to what �pre-sold� would mean. It will probably require a substantial down payment � at least 10% of the unit cost. It will also require preapproval for a loan in the amount necessary to complete the transaction when the unit is available for sale. John said that the committee recognized that this raised several issues. 1) People who are not homeowners may have difficulty raising this amount of money; for homeowners a home equity loan on their present home would be an option. 2) It would be important to minimize the risk of this money. If the money is provided before the sale from St. Marys closes it could be invested contingent on the sale so that it would safe to that point. Once actual development begins and construction financing is obtained it would be at risk, on the other hand the risk would be much less.

To help folks understand what amount of money members might have to raise it was suggested that a list of current proposed unit sizes and estimated costs be shared with the group. Vic agreed to do this. John also noted that the Development Committee plans to engage the services of an attorney experienced in development issues of the type we face to advise us. There appeared to be agreement that this was appropriate.

Action Items:

1. Ellen Alexander agreed to start a list of the questions that need decisions by the membership.

2. Vic Villacrez will circulate a list of current proposed unit sizes and estimated costs.

AGENDA FOR NOVEMBER 21, 2004 MEETING

It was agreed that the following items would be included on the agenda for the next meeting.

Discussion of the list of decision items Ellen is helping to assemble and decisions on which should be made by the group as a whole and which by a committee.- Ellen and Dianne
Update on negotiations with St. Marys - Vic and Development Committee
Update on down payment options - Vic and Development Committee
Discussion of Retreat options - Kimberly

Neils agreed to facilitate the meeting.

The meeting adjourned at 7:10 PM

Submitted by Linda and John Merrill

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From: Linda Merrill <madmerrill@...>
Date: Sat Oct 23, 2004 3:17 pm
Subject: Arboretum Cohousing Meeting Minutes 17Oct2004

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There are two attached files: the meeting minutes and the list serve instructions. I've extracted the following from the minutes as a reminder.

Action Items:

1. Ellen Alexander agreed to start a list of the questions that need decisions by the membership.

2. Vic Villacrez will circulate a list of current proposed unit sizes and estimated costs.

Next meeting 5 PM, Nov. 21, 2004, St. Marys Hospital, Bay 1.

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From: "Dianne Greenley" <dianneg@...>
Date: Wed Oct 13, 2004 2:00 pm
Subject: discussion of decision-making authority

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At the last meeting I agreed to write up something to use as a basis for our discussion of who (meaning the membership or a board of directors) should be making what decisions. This is a continuation of our by-law development process.

Hopefully you will read this before the Sunday meeting and we can have a good discussion at that time.

Arboretum Cohousing By-law Discussion Points

Allocation of decision-making between membership and board of directors

Decisions already made:

Membership is composed of households who have made an equity contribution to the project

Decision-making is by consensus

A quorum for membership meetings is 51% of the members

Issues for discussion:

Should the membership or the board make most of the "big" decisions at this stage of the project?

Examples: Making an offer to St. Marys - this includes terms of the offer - how much money? Any contingencies? Responses to any counter-offers?

Deciding sequence of development - the 2 phase process currently under consideration vs. doing the development all at once

Deciding the number of units, their size, the size of the common house, the location of the units, etc.

Deciding on the cost of the units

If the membership is the decision-making body, how many members are needed for decision to be valid?

We decided that a quorum for a membership meeting is 51%. What if we have a quorum for a meeting but not everyone is present - should we poll those who are not present? How will people be notified of the decisions to be made at the meeting?

If the membership makes most of the "big" decisions at this point, should the board act as an"executive committee" of the membership? This could mean that it could act when it is not possible to reach the membership in a timely manner.

Should decision-making model change once the project is up and running - the board could assume more responsibility once the group gets bigger and decisions are more of the day to day nature.

Village Cohousing appears to have adopted a model where most of the authority is with the Board. The membership selects the board, has the authority to change the by-laws, and can challenge special assessments made by the board. The board has the power to set the annual budget, levy assessments, make contracts, open bank accounts, adopt rules of the association, employ an manager, etc.

Please feel free to add additional questions/items to this discussion.

Dianne Greenley

#21

From: Will Warlick <willwarlick@...>
Date: Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:15 pm
Subject: Re: Meeting, Sunday, 10/17/2004

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I will not be attending. -Will Warlick

Linda Merrill <arbcoho@...> wrote:

Next Meeting, Sunday, 10/17/2004, St. Marys Hospital, Bay1, 5 PM - 7 PM

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Attached:

Agenda

Minutes from 9/19/2004 Meeting

Committee Reports: Development, Marketing

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> ATTACHMENT part 3 application/msword name=Agenda 17Oct2004.doc

> ATTACHMENT part 4 application/msword name=Marketing Committee 03Oct2004.doc

> ATTACHMENT part 5 application/msword name=Development Committee 10 Oct04.doc

#20

From: Linda Merrill <arbcoho@...>
Date: Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:35 am
Subject: Meeting, Sunday, 10/17/2004

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From: Linda Merrill <arbcoho@...>
Date: Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:32 am
Subject: Meeting, Sunday, 10/17/2004

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AGENDA

ARBORETUM CO-HOUSING MONTHLY MEETING

SUNDAY, OCTOBER 17, 2004

ST. MARYS HOSPITAL, BAY 1

Neils Wolter, FACILITATOR

AGENDA

5:00 pm GATHER FOR POTLUCK AND SOCIALIZIING

5:30 pm COMMUNITY BUILDING ACTIVITY � Community Building Committee

5:45 pm ` BUSINESS MEETING

1. Continued Business � Discuss allocation of decisions between the membership and other groups such as a board of directors, the executive committee and operating committees.

2. Questions on E-mailed reports

3. Discussion of contingencies and other elements of �offer to purchase� to St. Marys

4. New Business or items for next meeting

7:00 pm End of meeting

ARBORETUM CO-HOUSING MONTHLY MEETING

MINUTES

SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER 19, 2004

PRESENT: Sarah Carroll, Janet Chen, Carey Dachik, Mark Daugherty, Dianne Greenley, Lou Host Jablonski, Joann Kelly, Peter McKeever, John Merrill, Linda Merrill, Jean Nielson, Neils Wolter

The group gathered at 5:00 PM for a shared meal. The meeting began at 5:30 PM convened by Mark Daugherty. John Merrill and Peter McKeever responded to questions about the negotiations with St. Marys. The information they shared is in the Development Committee reports sent with the agenda for the meeting. On September 22, 2004, there is a meeting with St. Marys Hospital. Catherine Joy and Vic Villacrez will present new budget numbers.

Discussion then returned to membership issues, discussed at the July meeting. Dianne Greenley suggested the group consider regarding voting rights. They were:

1. Should there be one vote per household or one vote per individual?

2. Should voting be restricted to persons who have paid the $75 membership fee or to persons who have paid a minimum of $500 to be �equity members�?

In a round robin session, people presented their opinions.

The group reached consensus:

Each household should have one vote though households might choose to vote in fractions.
Voting will be limited to equity members.

However, anyone attending meetings is encouraged to participate fully in discussions. In coming to this decision the group recognized that once we have an accepted offer we will be making more decisions and beginning to need down payments. The $75 fee has been a way to generate money to pay expenses not directly tied to the development. We will continue to need to collect some money for such expenses but it that it should be part of the equity contribution. We need to develop the details on how this will work,

The group then confirmed that we would make future decisions by consensus. We will try to do some self-training so that we can use consensus effectively.

Dianne Greenly suggested that at our next meeting we discuss allocation of decisions between the membership and other groups such as a board of directors, the executive committee and operating committees. She will share via email some models of how allocating decisions prior to the meeting.

We agreed that quorum is 51% of the equity members.

We need to establish a procedure and criteria for accepting new members. There was support for doing this soon. Carey Dachik agreed that the outreach committee would collect information and take the lead in this work. Linda Merrill agreed to share the procedures used by Village Cohousing to the other members of the committee to help with the discussion.

The meeting adjourned at 6:50 PM

Submitted by John Merrill

COMMITTEE REPORTS

Development Committee

Arboretum Cohousing

Development Committee mtg Notes

October 1, 2004

Present: Mark Dougherty, Lou Host Jaabloonski, Peter McKeever, John Merrill, and Catherine Joy

John and Catherine reported on the results of the September 22 meeting with St. Marys. They agreed that St. Marys was very encouraging and thought we were very close to an agreement. They agreed to take it to their committee to see what could be done to close the gap. They asked that we go to bankers to see what terms we could get that might reduce the gap, which is about $300,000. We agreed to meet again with St. Marys on October 13 and to try to submit a formal offer by the end of October.

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October 8, 2004

Present: Mark Dougherty, John Merrill, Catherine Joy and Vic Villacrez

Catherine and Vic repportd the results of their meetings with Home Savings and Johnson Bank loan officers. Both banks seemed interested in working with us and said that they would immediately visit Village Cohousing and do other work to be better ready to work with us. Catherine has also spoken with a contact at WHEDA and is hoping for some help from that quarter. We spent the rest of the meeting getting ready for our meeting with St. Marys so that we would be clear in what we had done and what we needed to submit our offer. We also agreed that Catherine and Vic would work on the offer and bring issues that needed group discussion and approval to the November 17 cohousing group mtg.

John Merrill, Chair

Marketing Committee

Summary of Minutes

ArboCoho Marketing & Outreach/Membership Committee

October 3, 2004

The Arboretum Cohousing Marketing & Outreach Committee, often referred to as the Membership Committee, met on October 3, 2004 at Peter�s house in Monona. Present were Carey Dachik, Marena Kehl, and Linda Merrill.

The primary discussion was of formulating a proposal for membership application and approval, a task assigned to the committee at the September general meeting. Items designated to be part of the proposal are as follows:

The $75 �contribution level� will remain, and will now be termed an application fee, non-refundable, but applicable towards down payment/membership fee. In exchange for the application fee, applicants will receive a packet of goodies, including: information on Arboretum Coho (as it becomes available), info on cohousing living in general, a list of suggested readings/websites and activities, and an application packet to be completed and returned. The application packet will include a questionnaire, bio and photo sheet for the album, and an agreement stating that the applicant has reviewed the materials. Applicants will also be required to submit a prequalifying letter from a lender.

A sample application packet will be presented at the October general meeting. We decided it is important to have the membership application/approval process defined before beginning any significant marketing efforts.

Questions for the group at the general meeting are:

How should the member approval process work? We recommend continuing with the modified consensus process the group has been using, stipulating that all members should not expect to be overcome with joy at the sight of every other member. However, all members should realize that a strong community will be composed of different people, all of whom will not see eye to eye on all issues. That said, if any members still have significant objections to the acceptance of another member, those will need to be discussed.

Unit Selection Order? We recommend that the original group of equity members have first selection, with order within that group determined by that group. After those members, equity members will choose in chronological order of becoming equity members.

Our next committee meeting date will be set at the next general meeting, provided the convener can remember to bring his calendar.

Submitted by Carey Dachik

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From: Linda Merrill <madmerrill@...>
Date: Tue Sep 21, 2004 9:36 pm
Subject: Meeting Times

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I am sorry for the confusion about the times for our monthly meetings. At the June 13, 2004 meeting (see minutes) we decided to have our meetings on the third Sunday of the month, at St. Marys Hospital, Bay 1. Kathy Seifert secured the space for us with the exception of December.

For those who are more recent to the list serve, I hope I reflected this in the inforrmation I sent. If not, I am sorry.

Linda Merrill

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#17

From: "Marena Kehl" <marenakehl@...>
Date: Sun Sep 19, 2004 6:47 pm
Subject: Summary Mktng Comm. Minutes

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The Arboretum Cohousing Marketing and Outreach Committee met on August 15, 2004. Attending were Carey Dachik, Linda Merrill and Marena Kehl.

Items discussed included our brochure, our mission statement. our website and a new convener.

Our brochure is ready to be printed once it is upgraded with new information and the project is given the go-ahead. We are investigating prices of printing.

Our mission statement was refined and will be posted on the Arboretume Cohousing website through Design Coalition.

We are investigating formats for setting up our own website once our offer has been accepted by St. Marys and we are ready to do marketing.

Carey Daschik has accepted the role of convener, taking over for Marena Kehl, to begin September 1. 2004.

Respectfully submitted,

Marena Kehl

#16

From: Bev Iverson <Biverson@...>
Date: Sat Sep 18, 2004 8:30 pm
Subject: Re: Arboretum Cohousing Meeting Sunday, 9/19/04, St. Marys Hospital, Bay 1, 5-7 PM

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Hi from Racine,
	 I enjoy hearing of the evolution of the housing project but I usually
cannot come and I cannot come tomorrow.
	 Bev Iverson
On Saturday, September 18, 2004, at 10:38 AM, ellen alexander wrote:

> Linda, I have wondered at the long silence of the group.
> Unfortunately, I am not able to plan to come up on such short notice.
> I will be driving to Michigan on Sunday.� I'll look forward to
> whatever news there is. Hello to all. Also, I know I was asked to look
> at some potential areas of decision making as to future unit
> selection? You and I should talk, I am unclear what is needed. Also,
> am unsure of the status of the St Mary's project, thought the hospital
> was changing lanes or something. Regards, Ellen
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Linda Merrill
> To: All AC
> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 3:46 PM
> Subject: [arbco-all] Arboretum Cohousing Meeting Sunday, 9/19/04, St.
> Marys Hospital, Bay 1, 5-7 PM
>
> PLEASE RSVP TO madmerrill@...
>
> �
>
> ARBORETUM CO-HOUSING MONTHLY MEETING
>
> SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER 19, 2004
>
> �
>
> AGENDA
>
> �
>
> 5:00 pm� GATHER FOR POTLUCK AND SOCIALIZIING
>
> �
>
> 5:30 pm��COMMUNITY BUILDING ACTIVITY � Community Building Committee
>
> �
>
> 5:45 pm `BUSINESS MEETING ���������������������
>
> �
>
> 1.� Continued Business � Dianne Greenley:�Continued discussion�of �who
> is a member� and �decision �making criteria.�
>
> �
>
> 2.� Questions on E-mailed reports
>
> �����������
>
> ���������3.� New Business or items for next meeting
>
> �
>
> 7:00 pm��4.� End of meeting
>
> �
>
> �
>
> Minutes
>
> �
>
> ARB CO HOUSING MEETING 7-18-04
>
> �
>
> 3:00 PM�GATHERING FOR SOCIALIZATION
>
> ATTENDING: LINDA MERRILL, MARENA KEHL AND PETER MCKEEVER, DIANNE
> GREENLEY, J.EAN�NIELSON, LOU HOST-JABLONSKI, , CAREY DACHIK,�ELLEN
> ALEXANDER,�PRUDENCE BAXTER, ROY SCHENK AND KATHY�SEI FERT, KIMBERLY
> WILSON.�GUESTS:�STEFANIA SONI�AND GIL HALSTAD, FRANK BERKOWITZ
>
> �
>
> 3:30PM� COMMUNITY BUILDING EXERCISE:��ROUND ROBIN SHARING �WHAT I�LIKE
> MOST�ABOUT SUMMER�
>
> �
>
> 3: 45PM�MEETING CALLED TOGETHER BY TODAY�S FACILLITATOR, K WILSON
>
> �
>
> ����������REPORT BY LOU H-J���On�a possible�response to the problem
> that 2 owners are unwilling to sell their properties, and that�these
> properties�are in the approximate middle of the block.�The proposal to
> be considered iis for a two-stage development, with Phase 1
> focusing�on the West end of the block. Those present agreed with this
> plan.
>
> �
>
> (4:30PM)��BY-LAWS.�Dianne Greenley � passed out copies of a document
> indicating all areas that require by-laws�ultimately.�It is proposed
> that�several by-laws be decided at each meeting.�At the next meeting
> the questions to be decided will be related to � Who is a member?� and
> � Who makes which decisions?�����Anyone wishing to be heard on these
> subjects should send messages on our �list serve�
>
> �
>
> (4:45PM)��RETREAT DISCUSSION��- K Wilson presented possible choices:
>
> ����������yes or no,�sooner or later, equity members or everyone, in
> town or away, one day or all weekend or amount of time somewhere in
> between, work or play or both..�Round Robin (RR) comments with
> significant interest in having a retreat, but after the financially
> feasible price has been agreed to by both parties and�there are more
> members��KW is encouraged to pursue more specific choices�for the
> group to consider at later meetings.
>
> �
>
> (4:55PM)��LIST SERVE�EDUCATION��L Merrill explained how we can
> communicate directly with each other on the list serve. Handouts
> provided.
>
> �
>
> (5:00PM)��Decision to continue with items on the agenda past the 5
> pm�planned end of the meeting . Suggestion that the maker�s of the
> agenda attempt more accurate planning of time allowed for each
> topic.�At the same time it was�recognized that the 5pm ending is a
> goal.
>
> �
>
> OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT COMMITTEE REPORTS:�None
>
> �
>
> 5:10PM����FURTHER CONSIDERATIONS
>
> ����������Next meeting to include deciding the questions related
> to�Membership People need to take responsibility for reading e-mailed
> reports and weigh in with there opinions/votes if they are unable to
> attend.�Decisions will�be made by those in attendance. Executive
> meeting will be at theKW�s on August 6.�
>
> �
>
> NEXT MEETING:��SUNDAY, AUGUST 15,�5PM -
>
> �
>
> 7PM������MEETING ADJOURNED
>
> �����������������������������������������������������������������������
> ������������������������Submitted by
>
> �����������������������������������������������������������������������
> ������������������������Kathy Seifert, Sec�ty
>
> �����������������������������������������������������������������������
> ������������������������kseifert660@...
>
>
>
> �
>
> �
>
> REPORTS
>
> Development Committee
>
>
>
> Arboretum Cohousing
> Development Committee Mtg Notes
> August 5, 2004
>
> Present: Mark Dougherty, Lou Host Jablonski, Peter McKeever, Linda &
> John Merrill, Catherine Joy and Vic Villacrez
>
> The committee agreed to change locations for its meetings to St. Marys
> if that is acceptable to St. Marys.
>
> The remaining discussion focused on how to refine our site plan and
> pro forma so that we are ready to reopen negotiations with St. Marys
> in September.
>
> It was agreed to pursue the two phase approach. Discussion moved
> beyond earlier discussion in that now we are considering keeping the
> two phases completely separate. So that phase 1 can proceed with out
> need for any of the land in the Phase 2 area and with out occupants of
> Phase 1 needing to pay for purchase of the Phase 2 property as part of
> the initial development. Ideas on how this might occur need to be
> worked out. It was also agreed that additional home on Orchard may
> need to be razed in order for the new Phase 1 site plan to work and
> that some of the larger existing homes may need to be evaluated for
> conversion into smaller units. As a next step Catherine and Vic will
> development new pro forma numbers based on these figures and have them
> for the group by September 9. Catherine will also contact St. Marys
> and arrange a meeting with their staff following the September 9
> meeting.
>
> �
>
> Development Committee mtg Notes
>
> September 9, 2004
>
> �
>
> Present: Mark Dougherty, Lou Host Jablonski, Peter McKeever, Linda &
> John Merrill�and Vic Villacrez
>
> �
>
> Lou presented a revised conceptual site plan reflecting the two phase
> development with additional parking.�He and Vic have met and Vic and
> Catherine are now ready to develop cost figures to reflect this new
> plan. Vic agreed to have the figures ready prior to the meeting with
> St. Marys which is scheduled for the week of September 20th.
>
>
>
> �
>
> �
>
>
>
> Linda Merrill
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From: "ellen alexander" <arbalexander@...>
Date: Sat Sep 18, 2004 3:38 pm
Subject: Re: Arboretum Cohousing Meeting Sunday, 9/19/04, St. Marys Hospital, Bay 1, 5-7 PM

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Linda, I have wondered at the long silence of the group. Unfortunately, I am not able to plan to come up on such short notice. I will be driving to Michigan on Sunday. I'll look forward to whatever news there is. Hello to all. Also, I know I was asked to look at some potential areas of decision making as to future unit selection? You and I should talk, I am unclear what is needed. Also, am unsure of the status of the St Mary's project, thought the hospital was changing lanes or something. Regards, Ellen

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From: Linda Merrill

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Subject: [arbco-all] Arboretum Cohousing Meeting Sunday, 9/19/04, St. Marys Hospital, Bay 1, 5-7 PM

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ARBORETUM CO-HOUSING MONTHLY MEETING

SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER 19, 2004

AGENDA

5:00 pm GATHER FOR POTLUCK AND SOCIALIZIING

5:30 pm  COMMUNITY BUILDING ACTIVITY � Community Building Committee

5:45 pm `BUSINESS MEETING

1. Continued Business � Dianne Greenley: Continued discussion of �who is a member� and �decision �making criteria.�

2. Questions on E-mailed reports



          3. New Business or items for next meeting

7:00 pm   4. End of meeting

Minutes

ARB CO HOUSING MEETING 7-18-04

3:00 PM GATHERING FOR SOCIALIZATION

ATTENDING: LINDA MERRILL, MARENA KEHL AND PETER MCKEEVER, DIANNE GREENLEY, J.EAN NIELSON, LOU HOST-JABLONSKI, , CAREY DACHIK, ELLEN ALEXANDER, PRUDENCE BAXTER, ROY SCHENK AND KATHY SEI FERT, KIMBERLY WILSON. GUESTS: STEFANIA SONI AND GIL HALSTAD, FRANK BERKOWITZ

3:30PM COMMUNITY BUILDING EXERCISE:   ROUND ROBIN SHARING �WHAT I LIKE MOST ABOUT SUMMER�

3: 45PM MEETING CALLED TOGETHER BY TODAY�S FACILLITATOR, K WILSON

          REPORT BY LOU H-J    On a possible response to the problem that 2 owners are unwilling to sell their properties, and that these properties are in the approximate middle of the block. The proposal to be considered iis for a two-stage development, with Phase 1 focusing on the West end of the block. Those present agreed with this plan.

(4:30PM)  BY-LAWS. Dianne Greenley � passed out copies of a document indicating all areas that require by-laws ultimately. It is proposed that several by-laws be decided at each meeting. At the next meeting the questions to be decided will be related to � Who is a member?� and � Who makes which decisions?�     Anyone wishing to be heard on these subjects should send messages on our �list serve�

(4:45PM)  RETREAT DISCUSSION   - K Wilson presented possible choices:

          yes or no, sooner or later, equity members or everyone, in town or away, one day or all weekend or amount of time somewhere in between, work or play or both.. Round Robin (RR) comments with significant interest in having a retreat, but after the financially feasible price has been agreed to by both parties and there are more members   KW is encouraged to pursue more specific choices for the group to consider at later meetings.

(4:55PM)  LIST SERVE EDUCATION   L Merrill explained how we can communicate directly with each other on the list serve. Handouts provided.

(5:00PM)  Decision to continue with items on the agenda past the 5 pm planned end of the meeting . Suggestion that the maker�s of the agenda attempt more accurate planning of time allowed for each topic. At the same time it was recognized that the 5pm ending is a goal.

OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT COMMITTEE REPORTS: None

5:10PM    FURTHER CONSIDERATIONS

          Next meeting to include deciding the questions related to Membership People need to take responsibility for reading e-mailed reports and weigh in with there opinions/votes if they are unable to attend. Decisions will be made by those in attendance. Executive meeting will be at theKW�s on August 6.

NEXT MEETING:   SUNDAY, AUGUST 15, 5PM -

7PM      MEETING ADJOURNED

                                                                                                Submitted by

                                                                                                Kathy Seifert, Sec�ty

                                                                                                kseifert660@...

REPORTS

Development Committee

Arboretum Cohousing
Development Committee Mtg Notes
August 5, 2004

Present: Mark Dougherty, Lou Host Jablonski, Peter McKeever, Linda & John Merrill, Catherine Joy and Vic Villacrez

The committee agreed to change locations for its meetings to St. Marys if that is acceptable to St. Marys.

The remaining discussion focused on how to refine our site plan and pro forma so that we are ready to reopen negotiations with St. Marys in September.

It was agreed to pursue the two phase approach. Discussion moved beyond earlier discussion in that now we are considering keeping the two phases completely separate. So that phase 1 can proceed with out need for any of the land in the Phase 2 area and with out occupants of Phase 1 needing to pay for purchase of the Phase 2 property as part of the initial development. Ideas on how this might occur need to be worked out. It was also agreed that additional home on Orchard may need to be razed in order for the new Phase 1 site plan to work and that some of the larger existing homes may need to be evaluated for conversion into smaller units. As a next step Catherine and Vic will development new pro forma numbers based on these figures and have them for the group by September 9. Catherine will also contact St. Marys and arrange a meeting with their staff following the September 9 meeting.

Development Committee mtg Notes

September 9, 2004

Present: Mark Dougherty, Lou Host Jablonski, Peter McKeever, Linda & John Merrill and Vic Villacrez

Lou presented a revised conceptual site plan reflecting the two phase development with additional parking. He and Vic have met and Vic and Catherine are now ready to develop cost figures to reflect this new plan. Vic agreed to have the figures ready prior to the meeting with St. Marys which is scheduled for the week of September 20^th.

Linda Merrill
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From: S Carroll <sarahcarroll@...>
Date: Tue Sep 14, 2004 8:08 pm
Subject: Re: Arboretum Cohousing Meeting Sunday, 9/19/04, St. Marys Hospital, Bay 1, 5-7 PM

sarahcarroll@...

Linda,
I plan to attend.
Sarah

--- Linda Merrill <madmerrill@...> wrote:

>
> PLEASE RSVP TO madmerrill@...
>
>
>
> ARBORETUM CO-HOUSING MONTHLY MEETING
>
> SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER 19, 2004
>
>
>
> AGENDA
>
>
>
> 5:00 pm  GATHER FOR POTLUCK AND SOCIALIZIING
>
>
>
> 5:30 pm  COMMUNITY BUILDING ACTIVITY ? Community
> Building Committee
>
>
>
> 5:45 pm `BUSINESS MEETING
>
>
>
> 1.  Continued Business ? Dianne Greenley:  Continued
> discussion  of ?who is a member? and ?decision
> ?making criteria.?
>
>
>
> 2.  Questions on E-mailed reports
>
>
>
>           3.  New Business or items for next meeting
>
>
>
> 7:00 pm   4.  End of meeting
>
>
>
>
>
> Minutes
>
>
>
> ARB CO HOUSING MEETING 7-18-04
>
>
>
> 3:00 PM GATHERING FOR SOCIALIZATION
>
> ATTENDING: LINDA MERRILL, MARENA KEHL AND PETER
> MCKEEVER, DIANNE GREENLEY, J.EAN  NIELSON, LOU
> HOST-JABLONSKI, , CAREY DACHIK,  ELLEN ALEXANDER,
> PRUDENCE BAXTER, ROY SCHENK AND KATHY  SEI FERT,
> KIMBERLY WILSON.  GUESTS:  STEFANIA SONI  AND GIL
> HALSTAD, FRANK BERKOWITZ
>
>
>
> 3:30PM  COMMUNITY BUILDING EXERCISE:   ROUND ROBIN
> SHARING ?WHAT I LIKE MOST  ABOUT SUMMER?
>
>
>
> 3: 45PM MEETING CALLED TOGETHER BY TODAY?S
> FACILLITATOR, K WILSON
>
>
>
>           REPORT BY LOU H-J    On  a possible
> response to the problem that 2 owners are unwilling
> to sell their properties, and that  these properties
>  are in the approximate middle of the block.  The
> proposal to be considered iis for a two-stage
> development, with Phase 1 focusing  on the West end
> of the block. Those present agreed with this plan.
>
>
>
> (4:30PM)  BY-LAWS.  Dianne Greenley ? passed out
> copies of a document indicating all areas that
> require by-laws  ultimately.  It is proposed that
> several by-laws be decided at each meeting.  At the
> next meeting the questions to be decided will be
> related to ? Who is a member?? and ? Who makes which
> decisions??     Anyone wishing to be heard on these
> subjects should send messages on our ?list serve?
>
>
>
> (4:45PM)  RETREAT DISCUSSION   - K Wilson presented
> possible choices:
>
>           yes or no,  sooner or later, equity
> members or everyone, in town or away, one day or all
> weekend or amount of time somewhere in between, work
> or play or both..  Round Robin (RR) comments with
> significant interest in having a retreat, but after
> the financially feasible price has been agreed to by
> both parties and  there are more members   KW is
> encouraged to pursue more specific choices  for the
> group to consider at later meetings.
>
>
>
> (4:55PM)  LIST SERVE  EDUCATION   L Merrill
> explained how we can communicate directly with each
> other on the list serve. Handouts provided.
>
>
>
> (5:00PM)  Decision to continue with items on the
> agenda past the 5 pm  planned end of the meeting .
> Suggestion that the maker?s of the agenda attempt
> more accurate planning of time allowed for each
> topic.  At the same time it was  recognized that the
> 5pm ending is a goal.
>
>
>
> OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT COMMITTEE REPORTS:  None
>
>
>
> 5:10PM    FURTHER CONSIDERATIONS
>
>           Next meeting to include deciding the
> questions related to  Membership People need to take
> responsibility for reading e-mailed reports and
> weigh in with there opinions/votes if they are
> unable to attend.  Decisions will  be made by those
> in attendance. Executive meeting will be at theKW?s
> on August 6.
>
>
>
> NEXT MEETING:   SUNDAY, AUGUST 15,  5PM -
>
>
>
> 7PM      MEETING ADJOURNED
>
>
>                                            Submitted
> by
>
>
>                                            Kathy
> Seifert, Sec?ty
>
>
>
> kseifert660@...
>
>
>
>
>
>
> REPORTS
>
> Development Committee
>
>
> Arboretum Cohousing
> Development Committee Mtg Notes
> August 5, 2004
>
> Present: Mark Dougherty, Lou Host Jablonski, Peter
> McKeever, Linda & John Merrill, Catherine Joy and
> Vic Villacrez
>
> The committee agreed to change locations for its
> meetings to St. Marys if that is acceptable to St.
> Marys.
>
> The remaining discussion focused on how to refine
> our site plan and pro forma so that we are ready to
> reopen negotiations with St. Marys in September.
>
> It was agreed to pursue the two phase approach.
> Discussion moved beyond earlier discussion in that
> now we are considering keeping the two phases
> completely separate. So that phase 1 can proceed
> with out need for any of the land in the Phase 2
> area and with out occupants of Phase 1 needing to
> pay for purchase of the Phase 2 property as part of
> the initial development. Ideas on how this might
> occur need to be worked out. It was also agreed that
> additional home on Orchard may need to be razed in
> order for the new Phase 1 site plan to work and that
> some of the larger existing homes may need to be
> evaluated for conversion into smaller units. As a
> next
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#13

From: "Mark Daugherty" <mdaugherty@...>
Date: Mon Sep 13, 2004 8:57 pm
Subject: RE: Arboretum Cohousing Meeting Sunday, 9/19/04, St. Marys Hospital, Bay 1, 5-7 PM

mdaugherty@...

Linda,

Looks good, see you there.

FYI my last name is with an "a" - "Daugherty" for future reports.

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: Linda Merrill [mailto:madmerrill@...]
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 3:47 PM
To: All AC
Subject: [arbco-all] Arboretum Cohousing Meeting Sunday, 9/19/04, St. Marys Hospital, Bay 1, 5-7 PM

PLEASE RSVP TO madmerrill@...

ARBORETUM CO-HOUSING MONTHLY MEETING

SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER 19, 2004

AGENDA

5:00 pm GATHER FOR POTLUCK AND SOCIALIZIING

5:30 pm  COMMUNITY BUILDING ACTIVITY Community Building Committee

5:45 pm `BUSINESS MEETING

1. Continued Business Dianne Greenley: Continued discussion of who is a member and decision making criteria.

2. Questions on E-mailed reports



          3. New Business or items for next meeting

7:00 pm   4. End of meeting

Minutes

ARB CO HOUSING MEETING 7-18-04

3:00 PM GATHERING FOR SOCIALIZATION

ATTENDING: LINDA MERRILL, MARENA KEHL AND PETER MCKEEVER, DIANNE GREENLEY, J.EAN NIELSON, LOU HOST-JABLONSKI, , CAREY DACHIK, ELLEN ALEXANDER, PRUDENCE BAXTER, ROY SCHENK AND KATHY SEI FERT, KIMBERLY WILSON. GUESTS: STEFANIA SONI AND GIL HALSTAD, FRANK BERKOWITZ

3:30PM COMMUNITY BUILDING EXERCISE:   ROUND ROBIN SHARING WHAT I LIKE MOST ABOUT SUMMER

3: 45PM MEETING CALLED TOGETHER BY TODAYS FACILLITATOR, K WILSON

          REPORT BY LOU H-J    On a possible response to the problem that 2 owners are unwilling to sell their properties, and that these properties are in the approximate middle of the block. The proposal to be considered iis for a two-stage development, with Phase 1 focusing on the West end of the block. Those present agreed with this plan.

(4:30PM)  BY-LAWS. Dianne Greenley passed out copies of a document indicating all areas that require by-laws ultimately. It is proposed that several by-laws be decided at each meeting. At the next meeting the questions to be decided will be related to Who is a member? and Who makes which decisions?     Anyone wishing to be heard on these subjects should send messages on our list serve

(4:45PM)  RETREAT DISCUSSION   - K Wilson presented possible choices:

          yes or no, sooner or later, equity members or everyone, in town or away, one day or all weekend or amount of time somewhere in between, work or play or both.. Round Robin (RR) comments with significant interest in having a retreat, but after the financially feasible price has been agreed to by both parties and there are more members   KW is encouraged to pursue more specific choices for the group to consider at later meetings.

(4:55PM)  LIST SERVE EDUCATION   L Merrill explained how we can communicate directly with each other on the list serve. Handouts provided.

(5:00PM)  Decision to continue with items on the agenda past the 5 pm planned end of the meeting . Suggestion that the makers of the agenda attempt more accurate planning of time allowed for each topic. At the same time it was recognized that the 5pm ending is a goal.

OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT COMMITTEE REPORTS: None

5:10PM    FURTHER CONSIDERATIONS

          Next meeting to include deciding the questions related to Membership People need to take responsibility for reading e-mailed reports and weigh in with there opinions/votes if they are unable to attend. Decisions will be made by those in attendance. Executive meeting will be at theKWs on August 6.

NEXT MEETING:   SUNDAY, AUGUST 15, 5PM -

7PM      MEETING ADJOURNED

                                                                                                Submitted by

                                                                                                Kathy Seifert, Secty

                                                                                                kseifert660@...

REPORTS

Development Committee

Arboretum Cohousing
Development Committee Mtg Notes
August 5, 2004

Present: Mark Dougherty, Lou Host Jablonski, Peter McKeever, Linda & John Merrill, Catherine Joy and Vic Villacrez

The committee agreed to change locations for its meetings to St. Marys if that is acceptable to St. Marys.

The remaining discussion focused on how to refine our site plan and pro forma so that we are ready to reopen negotiations with St. Marys in September.

It was agreed to pursue the two phase approach. Discussion moved beyond earlier discussion in that now we are considering keeping the two phases completely separate. So that phase 1 can proceed with out need for any of the land in the Phase 2 area and with out occupants of Phase 1 needing to pay for purchase of the Phase 2 property as part of the initial development. Ideas on how this might occur need to be worked out. It was also agreed that additional home on Orchard may need to be razed in order for the new Phase 1 site plan to work and that some of the larger existing homes may need to be evaluated for conversion into smaller units. As a next step Catherine and Vic will development new pro forma numbers based on these figures and have them for the group by September 9. Catherine will also contact St. Marys and arrange a meeting with their staff following the September 9 meeting.

Development Committee mtg Notes

September 9, 2004

Present: Mark Dougherty, Lou Host Jablonski, Peter McKeever, Linda & John Merrill and Vic Villacrez

Lou presented a revised conceptual site plan reflecting the two phase development with additional parking. He and Vic have met and Vic and Catherine are now ready to develop cost figures to reflect this new plan. Vic agreed to have the figures ready prior to the meeting with St. Marys which is scheduled for the week of September 20^th.

Linda Merrill
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From: Linda Merrill <madmerrill@...>
Date: Mon Sep 13, 2004 8:57 pm
Subject: Arboretum Cohousing Meeting, Sunday, 9/19/04, St. Marys Hospital, Bay 1, 5-7 PM

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Different systems have been creating havoc for some people. I will try to send out information in stream and one by attachments only. Therefore people can pick the best way for them to read the information.

I've attached the following items

1. Agenda for meeting

2. Minutes from July meeting

3. Development Committee meeting notes for August & September

4. List serve instructions

Linda Merrill

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From: Linda Merrill <madmerrill@...>
Date: Mon Sep 13, 2004 8:46 pm
Subject: Arboretum Cohousing Meeting Sunday, 9/19/04, St. Marys Hospital, Bay 1, 5-7 PM

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ARBORETUM CO-HOUSING MONTHLY MEETING

SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER 19, 2004

AGENDA

5:00 pm GATHER FOR POTLUCK AND SOCIALIZIING

5:30 pm COMMUNITY BUILDING ACTIVITY � Community Building Committee

5:45 pm `BUSINESS MEETING

1. Continued Business � Dianne Greenley: Continued discussion of �who is a member� and �decision �making criteria.�

2. Questions on E-mailed reports

3. New Business or items for next meeting

7:00 pm 4. End of meeting

Minutes

ARB CO HOUSING MEETING 7-18-04

3:00 PM GATHERING FOR SOCIALIZATION

ATTENDING: LINDA MERRILL, MARENA KEHL AND PETER MCKEEVER, DIANNE GREENLEY, J.EAN NIELSON, LOU HOST-JABLONSKI, , CAREY DACHIK, ELLEN ALEXANDER, PRUDENCE BAXTER, ROY SCHENK AND KATHY SEI FERT, KIMBERLY WILSON. GUESTS: STEFANIA SONI AND GIL HALSTAD, FRANK BERKOWITZ

3:30PM COMMUNITY BUILDING EXERCISE: ROUND ROBIN SHARING �WHAT I LIKE MOST ABOUT SUMMER�

3: 45PM MEETING CALLED TOGETHER BY TODAY�S FACILLITATOR, K WILSON

REPORT BY LOU H-J On a possible response to the problem that 2 owners are unwilling to sell their properties, and that these properties are in the approximate middle of the block. The proposal to be considered iis for a two-stage development, with Phase 1 focusing on the West end of the block. Those present agreed with this plan.

(4:30PM) BY-LAWS. Dianne Greenley � passed out copies of a document indicating all areas that require by-laws ultimately. It is proposed that several by-laws be decided at each meeting. At the next meeting the questions to be decided will be related to � Who is a member?� and � Who makes which decisions?� Anyone wishing to be heard on these subjects should send messages on our �list serve�

(4:45PM) RETREAT DISCUSSION - K Wilson presented possible choices:

yes or no, sooner or later, equity members or everyone, in town or away, one day or all weekend or amount of time somewhere in between, work or play or both.. Round Robin (RR) comments with significant interest in having a retreat, but after the financially feasible price has been agreed to by both parties and there are more members KW is encouraged to pursue more specific choices for the group to consider at later meetings.

(4:55PM) LIST SERVE EDUCATION L Merrill explained how we can communicate directly with each other on the list serve. Handouts provided.

(5:00PM) Decision to continue with items on the agenda past the 5 pm planned end of the meeting . Suggestion that the maker�s of the agenda attempt more accurate planning of time allowed for each topic. At the same time it was recognized that the 5pm ending is a goal.

OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT COMMITTEE REPORTS: None

5:10PM FURTHER CONSIDERATIONS

Next meeting to include deciding the questions related to Membership People need to take responsibility for reading e-mailed reports and weigh in with there opinions/votes if they are unable to attend. Decisions will be made by those in attendance. Executive meeting will be at theKW�s on August 6.

NEXT MEETING: SUNDAY, AUGUST 15, 5PM -

7PM MEETING ADJOURNED

Submitted by

Kathy Seifert, Sec�ty

kseifert660@...

REPORTS

Development Committee

Arboretum Cohousing
Development Committee Mtg Notes
August 5, 2004

Present: Mark Dougherty, Lou Host Jablonski, Peter McKeever, Linda & John Merrill, Catherine Joy and Vic Villacrez

The committee agreed to change locations for its meetings to St. Marys if that is acceptable to St. Marys.

The remaining discussion focused on how to refine our site plan and pro forma so that we are ready to reopen negotiations with St. Marys in September.

It was agreed to pursue the two phase approach. Discussion moved beyond earlier discussion in that now we are considering keeping the two phases completely separate. So that phase 1 can proceed with out need for any of the land in the Phase 2 area and with out occupants of Phase 1 needing to pay for purchase of the Phase 2 property as part of the initial development. Ideas on how this might occur need to be worked out. It was also agreed that additional home on Orchard may need to be razed in order for the new Phase 1 site plan to work and that some of the larger existing homes may need to be evaluated for conversion into smaller units. As a next step Catherine and Vic will development new pro forma numbers based on these figures and have them for the group by September 9. Catherine will also contact St. Marys and arrange a meeting with their staff following the September 9 meeting.

Development Committee mtg Notes

September 9, 2004

Present: Mark Dougherty, Lou Host Jablonski, Peter McKeever, Linda & John Merrill and Vic Villacrez

Lou presented a revised conceptual site plan reflecting the two phase development with additional parking. He and Vic have met and Vic and Catherine are now ready to develop cost figures to reflect this new plan. Vic agreed to have the figures ready prior to the meeting with St. Marys which is scheduled for the week of September 20^th.

Linda Merrill
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#10

From: Linda Merrill <arbcoho@...>
Date: Fri Aug 6, 2004 6:44 pm
Subject: August Meeting Cancelled

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