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#1340 From: "Don" <dah@...>
Date: Sun Jan 9, 2005 11:19 pm
Subject: memory issue with aprsplus
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Has anyone experience anything similar to this?

When I start aprsPlus from AGWPE.INI like this  :

[RUNPRG]
RUN0=C:\Program Files\APRS+SA\kipSSPE.exe
CMD0=0
RUN1=C:\Program Files\APRS+SA\APRSplus.EXE
CMD1=0

My available memory drops from about 170mb to 20mb, and my laptop all
but locks up.

However,
When I start aprsPlus from AGWPE.INI like this  :

[RUNPRG]
RUN0=C:\Program Files\APRS+SA\kipSSPE.exe
CMD0=0

and manually start aprsplus like so:
Program Files\APRS+SA\APRSplus.EXE

My available memory drops from approx 170mb to 150mb and all is well.

Thanks for any comments;

Don
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#1341 From: Bob Nocero <w4kbw@...>
Date: Sun Jan 16, 2005 2:54 am
Subject: Can't see my own station...
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I just installed APRS+SA on a new system and I believe all settings are
correct since I copied them from my old computer's screen.  What's
happening now is that I can see all other stations and the moving
stations are popping up just fine, but I can't see my own qth! Any ideas?

Bob

#1342 From: "Stephen H. Smith" <WA8LMF@...>
Date: Mon Jan 17, 2005 9:09 pm
Subject: REVIEW: Serial Port Sharing utility
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The Eltima Software "Serial Port Splitter" allows data received from a single serial COM port to be shared with multiple application at the same time.   This program answers a need that frequently comes up in APRS operations: using data from a GPS receiver or TNC  in several different programs at the same time.      The utility, which only works with Windows NT4, 2K and XP (no Win 98) installs about 1MB of software that then shows up as a device driver in the Windows device manager. 

When you first start the program, a typical Windows graphical configuration dialog prompts you to select a physical serial port to intercept.  You associate  any number of simulated (virtual) com ports from COM1 to COM255 with this physical port.  In operation, data received by the physical port is echoed out all the virtual ports simultanously.  You then configure each application to use a different virtual port.

Any com numbers already in use by real devices are automatically excluded from the pick list.  In my case, this meant COM1 (real serial port), COM2 (USB-to-serial converter cable) and COM3 (built-in modem) were unavailable to be assigned as virtual ports.    One virtual port is selectable as being bi-directional; it can talk and listen just like a "real" serial port while all others are listen-only.   You can remap more than one physical port; i.e. you could remap one physical port with a TNC on it, and another physical port with a GPS on it to share both devices with multple APRS applications. 

My "torture test" consisted of running this utility on a 1500 MHz Centrino Pentium-M laptop running Windows 2000 SP4 in 512 MB RAM.  On this platform I SIMULTANEOUSLY supplied 4800 baud GPS data arriving at the COM1 physical port to:

Visual GPS 3.03 on virtual COM4
UI-View  2.03  on   virtual COM5
Street Atlas Ver 9.0  on  COM7
Precision Mapping 7.0  on COM8
TopoUSA 3.0  on COM10
Microsoft Streets & Trips 2005 on  COM11
APRSplus 2.14 on COM12

The assigment of ports to various programs can be quite tricky since not all programs allow you to use any com number:
    Visual GPS only allows the selection of the "classic" first 4 com ports.
   UI-View only allows you to select COM ports up to COM8
   Street Atlas 9.0 allows you to select  only up to COM 7
   Precision Mapping only allows you to select up to COM9 (odd for something using 8-bit bytes??)
   APRSplus will only go up to COM16
   Streets & Trips and Topo USA 3.0 appear to offer in their select lists, ANY port (real or virtual) active in the system.

Because of the need for a large number of ports at COM8 and below, I de-activated a Mix Serial Port bridge (simulated back-to-back serial porrts; i.e. virtual null-modem cable) that had been occupying COM4 and COM5.

After running in my car for 24 hours, this whole mess was still running! 

The program is a bit pricey  ($112 USD or 99 Euro) but fills a real need (to run APRS and non-APRS programs from the same GPS at the same time) in many systems.    The program is freely downloadable  as "trialware"; it will run for two or three weeks before requiring purchased registration.

More information at the publisher's web site:
    Eltima Software Home Page:       http://www.eltima.com   
    Serial Port Splitter Page:             http://www.eltima.com/products/serialsplitter/




Stephen H. Smith                wa8lmf (at) aol.com
                                                    
Home Page:                      http://wa8lmf.com

New/Updated Symbols for         http://members.aol.com/wa8lmf/ham
UI-View and APRSplus:







#1343 From: "Stephen H. Smith" <WA8LMF@...>
Date: Mon Jan 17, 2005 9:49 pm
Subject: REVIEW: Serial Port Sharing utility
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The Eltima Software "Serial Port Splitter" allows data received from a
single serial COM port to be shared with multiple application at the
same time. This program answers a need that frequently comes up in APRS
operations: using data from a GPS receiver or TNC in several different
programs at the same time. The utility, which only works with Windows
NT4, 2K and XP (no Win 98) installs about 1MB of software that then
shows up as a device driver in the Windows device manager.

When you first start the program, a typical Windows graphical
configuration dialog prompts you to select a physical serial port to
intercept. You associate any number of simulated (virtual) com ports
from COM1 to COM255 with this physical port. In operation, data received
by the physical port is echoed out all the virtual ports simultanously.
You then configure each application to use a different virtual port.

Any com numbers already in use by real devices are automatically
excluded from the pick list. In my case, this meant COM1 (real serial
port), COM2 (USB-to-serial converter cable) and COM3 (built-in modem)
were unavailable to be assigned as virtual ports. One virtual port is
selectable as being bi-directional; it can talk and listen just like a
"real" serial port while all others are listen-only. You can remap more
than one physical port; i.e. you could remap one physical port with a
TNC on it, and another physical port with a GPS on it to share both
devices with multple APRS applications.

My "torture test" consisted of running this utility on a 1500 MHz
Centrino Pentium-M laptop running Windows 2000 SP4 in 512 MB RAM. On
this platform I SIMULTANEOUSLY supplied 4800 baud GPS data arriving at
the COM1 physical port to:

Visual GPS 3.03 on virtual COM4
UI-View 2.03 on virtual COM5
Street Atlas Ver 9.0 on COM7
Precision Mapping 7.0 on COM8
TopoUSA 3.0 on COM10
Microsoft Streets & Trips 2005 on COM11
APRSplus 2.14 on COM12

The assigment of ports to various programs can be quite tricky since not
all programs allow you to use any com number:
Visual GPS only allows the selection of the "classic" first 4 com ports.
UI-View only allows you to select COM ports up to COM8
Street Atlas 9.0 allows you to select only up to COM 7
Precision Mapping only allows you to select up to COM9 (odd for
something using 8-bit bytes??)
APRSplus will only go up to COM16
Streets & Trips and Topo USA 3.0 appear to offer in their select lists,
ANY port (real or virtual) active in the system.

Because of the need for a large number of ports at COM8 and below, I
de-activated a Mix Serial Port bridge (simulated back-to-back serial
porrts; i.e. virtual null-modem cable) that had been occupying COM4 and
COM5.

After running in my car for 24 hours, this whole mess was still running!

The program is a bit pricey ($112 USD or 99 Euro) but fills a real need
(to run APRS and non-APRS programs from the same GPS at the same time)
in many systems. The program is freely downloadable as "trialware"; it
will run for two or three weeks before requiring purchased registration.

More information at the publisher's web site:
Eltima Software Home Page: http://www.eltima.com
Serial Port Splitter Page: http://www.eltima.com/products/serialsplitter/




Stephen H. Smith wa8lmf (at) aol.com

Home Page: http://wa8lmf.com

New/Updated Symbols for http://members.aol.com/wa8lmf/ham
UI-View and APRSplus:

#1344 From: K4RCE@...
Date: Sun Feb 13, 2005 9:50 pm
Subject: Error message
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I get the following pop up error message when opening APRS SA+ with kippse
and Agwe. Can someone help?

Thanks,

Phil




=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Å’WI CREATION ERROR: ActiveX  class not registered
GForm[52]     b„form Œwi  '.grid.Create' 'APL2000.Grid' ('‘where' 0 1.5 0 0
1 ¯1.50 1 0)
^
----------------------------------------
2005 2 13 21 43 4  60
Error[13]
–ŒELX
GForm[52]  *
GForm[34]
Startup[135]
Start[4]
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

#1345 From: "B. Hildebrand" <bhildebrand@...>
Date: Mon Feb 14, 2005 6:48 am
Subject: Re: Error message
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Did this error message just start happening, or did have you made some change to
the Setup?  What this message is reporting is that the file, APLGrid.dll, which
should be found in the directory where you installed APRS+SA, is not registered
with Windows.  This file is registered during the setup process.  You can
manually reregister the file, opening a DOS style command prompt, changing
directory to where you installed APRS+SA, and executing the following command:

regsvr32 aplgrid.dll

I am assuming you know how to open a command prompt.  If not, check back here...

Brent KH2Z

K4RCE@... wrote:
> I get the following pop up error message when opening APRS SA+ with kippse
> and Agwe. Can someone help?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Phil
>
>
>
>
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> Å’WI CREATION ERROR: ActiveX  class not registered
> GForm[52]     b„form Œwi  '.grid.Create' 'APL2000.Grid' ('‘where' 0 1.5 0
0
> 1 ¯1.50 1 0)
> ^
> ----------------------------------------
> 2005 2 13 21 43 4  60
> Error[13]
> –ŒELX
> GForm[52]  *
> GForm[34]
> Startup[135]
> Start[4]
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>
>

#1346 From: "B. Hildebrand" <bhildebrand@...>
Date: Mon Feb 14, 2005 9:24 pm
Subject: Re: Error Message
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I'm glad the program is fixed.  I don't know why the file would ever be
unregistered with Windows, but I'm glad all is working OK!  Brent KH2Z
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: K4RCE@...
   To: bhildebrand@...
   Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 7:09 AM
   Subject: Error Message


   Thanks Brent. Your fix worked fine after I thought about it a while. The
problem began when I registered the Pro AGW packet engine. I had been running it
with the trial version but the initial set up was a hassle. I decided to pay the
big bucks for a registered version and the problems began to mount. Trying to
get the four programs to work together using USB to serial adapters may be a
chore a little too big for a person with my limited knowledge. Apparently, I now
have a clean installation, no error messages. I certainly appreciate the prompt
help I have received.

   Thanks,

   Phil

#1347 From: "Stephen H. Smith" <WA8LMF@...>
Date: Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:05 am
Subject: New APRS symbol set Rev G in UIview, UIpoint and APRSplus formats released!
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After months of discussion, issuance of new symbol and code assignments
by WB4APR, and repeated draft revisions, an updated symbol set for
UIview and APRSplus is now downloadable from my web site.

***** FINDU.COM is now using the exact same symbol set. *****

New symbols for "SUV", "Minivan", "Laptop"and more are added to my "Rev
G" symbol set, along with numerous changes listed below.  Note that
installing these new symbols will only make your own copy of UIview or
APRSplus show the new symbols.

Findu's symbol set, which was way out of sync with current APRS usage
(for example, transmitting the symbol for "SSTV" would yield a thunder
cloud with lightning on findu) is now current and precisely matches the
symbols downloadable from my website at:
     http://members.aol.com/wa8lmf/aprs


NOTES ON SYMBOL CHANGES:

o   I have filled all unassigned positions with a cross-hair symbol I
created after considerable experimentation on a variety of maps and
backgrounds (I was striving for legibility with a clear indication of
the exact location being transmitted, without excessively cluttering the
map or obscuring the background artwork.)  The intent of this is to
produce a usable posit marker if a user accidentally selects a
non-assigned symbol, or uses an outdated symbol set after new symbols
are introduced.

o   A version letter is in the unused lower-right corner cell of the
grid. (There were several earlier revisions that had limited
distribution among UIview users.)

o   UIview comes with symbols in a larger 20x20 pixel format. I
"transplanted the 16x16 pixel symbols used by most U.S. APRS
applications and findu into the 20x20 pixel grid used by UIview.   The
smaller (and more brightly colored symbols cover up less of the
underlying map (an issue in busy areas like Los Angeles) and stand out
better against loudly-colored backgrounds like Precision Mapping and
MapPoint.  The effect of the 16x16 symbol in the 20x20 cell is to create
more space between the symbol and the accompanying callsign label which
further improves readability.

The latest revised set which I refer to as "Rev G"  includes:

PRIMARY SET
    ---Added Symbols:
      Mobile Earthstation
      Wheelchair
      Snowmobile
      Eyeball QSO
      "Logged On" (Live Operator Present)
      SSTV (replaces incorrectly-placed  thundercloud)
      Laptop

    ---Revised Symbols:
      Numbers 0-9 rounded to obscure less of the underlying map.
      All vehicles point the same way (to right)
      Motorcycle now looks like a motorcycle instead of a jeep.
      Server symbol revised
      School make to look more like a school house instead of a house
         (WB4APR's suggestion to put a bell on top).
      ICP Symbol
      Improved Fire Truck
      Hospital Blue Square with letter "H" instead of red cross
        old symbol was ambigous
      Mic-E Repeater
      18-Wheeler made a bit heavier


SECONDARY SET
    ---Added Symbols:
      Girl Scouts  (not new to UIview but new to US set)
      Rocket
      Construction Zone (Steam Shovel)
      SUV  (Look closely, the H2 outline has 1 pixel more ground clearance
         than the other vehicles)

   ---Revised Symbols:
      Picnic Table
      Coast Guard (Bob's suggestion for orange life ring. On a non-white
      background, you can also see a 1-pixel white rope around it.  I had
      originally thought of using the the diagonal red/white/blue slashes
      seen on the bow of USCG vessels but abandoned it as
      being too "US-centric" -- wouldn't mean anything elsewhere in the
      world.
      Diamond simplified and made overlayable (Blue instead of Red fill at
           Bob's request)
      DX Spot symbol changed
      Ham Store changed
      Black Box for Overlays
      Panel Truck / Commercial Van for Overlays
      Van for Overlays (attempted to make it look like a domestic minivan
       -- I guess it looks most like a Ford Aerostar)
      Red Shelter Icon for Overlays




Stephen H. Smith             wa8lmf (at) aol.com

Home Page:                   http://wa8lmf.com

New/Updated "Rev G" APRS     http://members.aol.com/wa8lmf/aprs
Symbols Set for UI-View,
UIpoint and APRSplus:

#1348 From: "Stephen H. Smith" <WA8LMF@...>
Date: Thu Feb 17, 2005 4:53 pm
Subject: Defective APRSplus symbol archive, Replacement file uploaded to web site.
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I've received several complaints about not being able to download or
open the APRSplus symbol set since my announcement last night.

Apparently the new APRS symbol set in APRSplus format (but not the
others) got corrupted during the upload to my web site.

I've re-uploaded it to my website.  Seem to be OK now.




Stephen H. Smith             wa8lmf (at) aol.com

Home Page:                   http://wa8lmf.com

New/Updated "Rev G" APRS     http://members.aol.com/wa8lmf/aprs
Symbols Set for UI-View,
UIpoint and APRSplus:

#1349 From: K4RCE@...
Date: Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:22 pm
Subject: TS-2000
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Has anyone been successful running the TS-2000 on HF APRS with the internal
TNC?

Phil

#1350 From: "Stephen H. Smith" <WA8LMF@...>
Date: Thu Feb 17, 2005 8:26 pm
Subject: Re: TS-2000
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K4RCE@... wrote on 2/17/2005, 11:22 AM:

  > Has anyone been successful running the TS-2000 on HF APRS with the
  > internal
  > TNC?
  >
  > Phil

NO!  The internal Tasco TNC-on-a-chip is identical to the one in the
D700 and TH-D7.  It only works at 1200 and 9600 baud.  It doesn't
support 300 bd HF.



Stephen H. Smith             wa8lmf (at) aol.com

Home Page:                   http://wa8lmf.com

New/Updated "Rev G" APRS     http://members.aol.com/wa8lmf/aprs
Symbols Set for UI-View,
UIpoint and APRSplus:

#1351 From: "Stephen H. Smith" <WA8LMF@...>
Date: Fri Feb 18, 2005 6:44 am
Subject: Minor Fixes to Rev G APRS Sets Now Available For Download
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Earlier today, I received an email pointing out an unexpected problem
with the new APRS symbol set releases.   Apparently, UIview can not
tolerate a symbol name or description in the symbol select dialog in
"Setup, Station Setup", or in the various lists of heard stations, that
is more than 10 characters long.  Descriptions like "Mic-E Repeater"
were getting clipped in the lists to "E Repeater", etc

I have revised the files "symbols.txt" (in the UIpoint and APRSplus
packages) and mysymb.txt (in the UIview package) to accomodate this
limitation.   Revised versions of the ZIP file archives are now for
download on my website at the same location as before:
       http://members.aol.com/wa8lmf/aprs


NOTE 1:   New versions were uploaded to the site at about 10:00 PM
Pacific Time 17 Feb 05     (0600 UTC 18 Feb 05)

Note 2:   The symbols themselves HAVE NOT CHANGED since yesterday.  Only
the text file that creates the text symbol descriptions in UIview has
changed.

Note 3:   I have added a GIF image, "Rev G Symbol Chart.GIF" , showing
the relationship between the icons and the text codes that produce them,
to each archive.  This is similar to the comparison grid on my APRS
symbols web page.   As a result, each archive is about 30K larger than
yesterday's versions.



Stephen H. Smith             wa8lmf (at) aol.com

Home Page:                   http://wa8lmf.com

New/Updated "Rev G" APRS     http://members.aol.com/wa8lmf/aprs
Symbols Set for UI-View,
UIpoint and APRSplus:

#1352 From: "Stephen H. Smith" <WA8LMF@...>
Date: Sat Feb 19, 2005 6:43 am
Subject: Further Background and Info on New APRS symbol sets
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It is now becoming apparent to me, based on several emails I have
received since the release of the new updated APRS symbol sets, that
many people think the APRS symbols are actually transmittted as tiny
graphics.

            THEY AREN'T ! !

All that gets transmitted is a single alphanumeric ASCII character that
represents a given symbol POSITION in the APRS symbol list, not the
array of colored pixels itself. A second single ASCII character ( "/" or
"\") determines if the symbol is selected from the primary or secondary
set of about 90 symbols each.

You can see the relationship between the alphanumeric codes and the
symbols they are supposed to represent, on my web site at:
           http://members.aol.com/wa8lmf/aprs/APRS_symbols.htm

(A version of this reference chart, in GIF image format, is also in each
of the downloadable symbol set zip file archives on my site.)


             [[[[[  SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT FACT HERE  ]]]]]
What the receiving station sees is determined entirely by what icon
(symbol) happens to be in that particular cell IN HIS COPY of the symbol
grid. You CANNOT force another station to see a given symbol by merely
changing YOUR set of symbols.


Over the years, many changes and additions have been made to the symbol
set. Most importantly, some symbols have been moved from the primary to
the secondary symbol set. The reason is that some symbols in the
secondary set can be overlaid with a letter or number of your choice;
the symbols in the primary set cannot.  The cells in the text grid on my
website that are highlighted in yellow indicate overlayable symbol
positions in the secondary symbol set.

For example, the green DIGI star in the primary set has an unchangable
"D" in a white circle as part of it's graphic design. The solid green
star in the secondary set is intended to be overlaid  with a letter or
number of your choice to indicate digipeater capabilities.  For example,
"N" would denote WIDEn-N capabilities, "R" = simple RELAY-only, "U" =
UIdigi-based digipeater, etc.

Note that not all APRS applications properly handle the overlay
characters.  On some programs you will only see the base symbol from the
secondary set but not the overlaid letter or number.  For example,
UI-View properly renders the overlays, but the UI-Point add-on for
MapPoint does not.

UIview's author (G4IDE - SK) unwittingly added to this confusion by the
usage of "No. Symbol" and "No Symbol" in symbols.txt, the file that
determines the text description of symbols that you see when choosing a
symbol and that you see in the "Stations Heard" list.

"No. Symbol" means "Numbered Symbol" ; i.e. Overlayable

"No Symbol" means "Unassigned Symbol"; i.e. this cell has nothing in it.

The shelter symbol (red building outline - lower-case z) is a special
case. For a long time, the shelter symbol was located in the primary
set. It was then reassigned to the same position in the  secondary set
so that it can be overlaid with letters or numbers. The position in the
primary set then officially became a "NO SYMBOL" slot.

( In all other cases, a symbol moved from the primary to the secondary
set was replaced by a new, unrelated symbol in the primary set. )

The result is that if you chose the "SHELTER" code in UIview (from the
secondary set) , it would show up as NO SYMBOL in APRSplus, WinAPRS and
on FINDU which still assumed the symbol was in the primary set.
       Conversely, if a user of APRSplus or WinAPRS would send "SHELTER"
from their (outdated) list it would be coded as being in the primary set
and show up on FINDU as such, but as NO SYMBOL on the more current UIVIEW.



1)  FINDU is now using the updated Rev G character set which conforms to
the latest APRS symbol definitions and assignments.

2)  If you choose to use the new symbols "Mobile Satellite Station",
"Wheelchair", "Snowmobile", "Logged On" or "Laptop" in the primary set,
or "Construction Zone" (Steamshovel) or "SUV" from the secondary set, it
will show as such on FINDU, but people with outdated older versions of
the symbol sets are going to see "NO SYMBOL" on their maps.

3)  THERE IS NOTHING I CAN DO ABOUT THIS MESS except urge everyone to
update to the current symbol set as soon as possibile.


In the interest of reverse compatibility (since the primary set position
corresponding to the current position of "SHELTER" in the secondary set
is now technically UNASSIGNED), I chose to place the shelter symbol in
BOTH the primary AND secondary sets of Rev G symbols.  I will leave the
symbol there until a new meaning and symbol gets assigned to the primary
cell.
       This will make YOUR copy of UIview, APRSplus, etc., display the
shelter symbol ON RECEIVE no matter which code (primary or secondary)
the other party sends, but you can't make a single TRANSMISSION that
will show correctly on everyone else's display, since you can't TRANSMIT
both the primary and secondary codes at the same time.

Note that I have filled all other "unassigned" ("NO SYMBOL") slots in
the symbol sets with a crosshairs symbol (rather than the old tiny text
message "NO SYMBOL") so that posits transmitted by others with invalid,
out-of-date or incorrect codes will at least produce a usable position
indication on your own maps.

(In all other update cases, a symbol moved from the primary to the
secondary set was replaced by a new, unrelated one in the primary set.
No position, other than "SHELTER", was left vacant as a result of a
symbol re-assignment.)

For example in the early days, upper-case letter "T" in the primary set
   caused the symbol "Thunderstorm" to be displayed.  Some time ago, this
symbol was moved to the same position in the secondary set. The empty
slot in the primary slot was reassigned to "SSTV".  However, many APRS
software authors (and FINDU.COM) continued to use the outdated symbol
set. As a result, I would select the "SSTV" symbol on my Kenwood D700
when I run my "Mobile SSTV LiveCAM", but people viewing my posit on
findu would see a moving thundercloud instead.  Now that the findu
symbol set is updated and current, visitors to findu will correctly see
the SSTV symbol (TV monitor with a smile face in it).





Stephen H. Smith             wa8lmf (at) aol.com

Home Page:                   http://wa8lmf.com

New/Updated "Rev G" APRS     http://members.aol.com/wa8lmf/aprs
Symbols Set for UI-View,
UIpoint and APRSplus:

#1353 From: K4RCE@...
Date: Sun Mar 20, 2005 4:27 pm
Subject: D7/Axim X-30
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Has anyone successfully managed to interface the Kenwood TH-D7 with the  Dell
Axim X-30? The absence of a standard serial port on the X-30 has me  stymied.

Thanks,

Phil
K4RCE

#1354 From: K4RCE@...
Date: Sun Mar 20, 2005 8:06 pm
Subject: Dell X-30 to Kenwood D7
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I have received several replies to my original query and I appreciate each
and every one of them. I have been using USB to serial adapters for some time
with my laptop.  I think I need to explain farther my problem The Dell X-30
is a PDA. There is no USB port as such. I was hoping to run APRS with it using
the D7 with one of the programs now available for Windows based PDAs but have
  discovered the port is not standard.

Thanks to All.

Phil
K4RCE

#1355 From: "Stephen H. Smith" <wa8lmf@...>
Date: Mon Mar 21, 2005 4:34 am
Subject: Re: Dell X-30 to Kenwood D7
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K4RCE@... wrote:

>I have received several replies to my original query and I appreciate each
>and every one of them. I have been using USB to serial adapters for some time
>with my laptop.  I think I need to explain farther my problem The Dell X-30
>is a PDA. There is no USB port as such. I was hoping to run APRS with it using
>the D7 with one of the programs now available for Windows based PDAs but have
> discovered the port is not standard.
>
>Thanks to All.
>
>Phil
>K4RCE
>
>
>
So-called Windows-based PDAs  DON'T RUN WINDOWS in the normal sense!

The Pocket Windows Operating System a.k.a. Win CE (Windows Compact
Edition) looks more or less like Windows but is a totally different OS
running on several families of processors none of which are like the AMD
and Intel processors used in full-sized PCs.   Standard Windows program
will not run on "Pocket PC"s.

Since the USB-to-serial converters depend on Windows-based drivers to
function, they too, most likely, will not be useable with Pocket Windows.

The only version of APRS that will run on a "Windows" PDA is APRSce
available at:
       http://www.geocities.com/gw0tqm/aprs/aprsce.htm

and downloadable from the TAPR website at:
       http://www.tapr.org/~aprsce/





Stephen H. Smith             wa8lmf (at) aol.com

Home Page:                   http://wa8lmf.com

New/Updated "Rev G" APRS     http://webs.lanset.com/wa8lmf/aprs
Symbols Set for UI-View,
UIpoint and APRSplus:

#1356 From: "w4kbw" <w4kbw@...>
Date: Wed Mar 30, 2005 2:14 am
Subject: What set to become an I-gate
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I have agreed to be a local I-gate because the one we had has been
down.  Just need to know what to set in the setup page, and what icon
to display instead of my QTH-Vertical.

I run my pc 24/7 and am connected to the internet via cable modem.

--Bob

#1357 From: Mark Earle <wa2mct@...>
Date: Wed Mar 30, 2005 3:19 am
Subject: Re: What set to become an I-gate
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Short answer: Setup, Internet, connect to your usual server.

Check the "Gate TNC data to Internet" box, and
Check teh "Gate Messages From Internet to local RF" if you wish to do that.

Of course on Setup/Main you would open the port to your TNC via the serial
port also.


Longer answer:
http://www.manistique.org/APRS/APRS+SAhelp.html

A pretty good reference for users of this program.

At 02:14 AM 3/30/2005 +0000, w4kbw wrote:
  >
  >I have agreed to be a local I-gate because the one we had has been
  >down.  Just need to know what to set in the setup page, and what icon
  >to display instead of my QTH-Vertical.
  >
  >I run my pc 24/7 and am connected to the internet via cable modem.
  >
  >--Bob

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#1358 From: "w4kbw" <w4kbw@...>
Date: Wed Mar 30, 2005 2:09 pm
Subject: Re: What set to become an I-gate
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Mark,

Thanks!  That is just about what I thought I needed to do.  I also
need to know which icon to use.  I can't really find anything that
referenced an I-gate and want to change it from my QTH-Vertical icon
that I have now.

Bob

--- In aprsplus@yahoogroups.com, Mark Earle <wa2mct@m...> wrote:
> Short answer: Setup, Internet, connect to your usual server.
>
> Check the "Gate TNC data to Internet" box, and
> Check teh "Gate Messages From Internet to local RF" if you wish to
do that.
>
> Of course on Setup/Main you would open the port to your TNC via the
serial
> port also.
>
>
> Longer answer:
> http://www.manistique.org/APRS/APRS+SAhelp.html
>
> A pretty good reference for users of this program.
>
> At 02:14 AM 3/30/2005 +0000, w4kbw wrote:
>  >
>  >I have agreed to be a local I-gate because the one we had has been
>  >down.  Just need to know what to set in the setup page, and what
icon
>  >to display instead of my QTH-Vertical.
>  >
>  >I run my pc 24/7 and am connected to the internet via cable modem.
>  >
>  >--Bob
>
>        ) )    de WA2MCT Mark
>       ( (
>        ) )    You will be assimilated... oooh, coffee!!    EL17HQ
>     _|****|   http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?wa2mct-8 Home
>    ( |    |   http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?wa2mct-9 Mobile
>     `|____|   wa2mct@m...  wa2mct@j...  www.mearle.com/mark

#1359 From: "AE5PL Lists" <HamLists@...>
Date: Wed Mar 30, 2005 2:29 pm
Subject: RE: Re: What set to become an I-gate
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The recommend icon is the "numbered diamond" in the secondary symbol
table.  Then, in the Config section of Settings set OverlayChar=I  This
indicates an IGate.

73,

Pete Loveall AE5PL
mailto:pete@...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: w4kbw
> Posted At: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 8:13 AM
> Subject: [aprsplus] Re: What set to become an I-gate
>
> Thanks!  That is just about what I thought I needed to do.  I
> also need to know which icon to use.  I can't really find
> anything that referenced an I-gate and want to change it from
> my QTH-Vertical icon that I have now.

#1360 From: "w4kbw" <w4kbw@...>
Date: Fri Apr 1, 2005 12:38 pm
Subject: I-Gate - Can I eliminate incoming data?
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I have my I-gate set up and am just gating TNC traffic to the internet
but not gating any stations from the internet to local RF.

Can I set it up to NOT receive information from the internet, but
still gate local information TO the internet?  Just want to keep my
computer from having a ton of traffic that I really don't need.

Bob

#1361 From: "AE5PL Lists" <HamLists@...>
Date: Fri Apr 1, 2005 12:57 pm
Subject: RE: I-Gate - Can I eliminate incoming data?
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Connect to a user filter port.  This is port 14580 on the core servers
(first through fourth.aprs.net) and Tier 2 servers (www.aprs2.net for
more information).  Even if you decide in the future to add gate-to-RF
capability, these ports properly handle those operations.

Most servers have a status page on port 14501
(http://first.aprs.net:14501 for instance).  If the page says it is
javAPRSSrvr (not aprsD), look down the page for a port table.  That
table will normally have listed what ports the sysop has configured for
that server.

You can also find an easy reference to servers that support the user
filter port at http://www.aprs-is.net/aprsservers.htm  Most all
javAPRSSrvr servers support port 14580 as a user filter port.  If you
want to add certain stations or areas to what you see from the internet,
take a look at JavAPRSFilters.txt in your APRS+SA program directory and
look at http://www.aprs-is.net/javaprssrvr/javaprsfilter.htm

73,

Pete Loveall AE5PL
mailto:pete@...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: w4kbw
> Posted At: Friday, April 01, 2005 6:46 AM
> Subject: [aprsplus] I-Gate - Can I eliminate incoming data?
>
> I have my I-gate set up and am just gating TNC traffic to the
> internet but not gating any stations from the internet to local RF.
>
> Can I set it up to NOT receive information from the internet,
> but still gate local information TO the internet?  Just want
> to keep my computer from having a ton of traffic that I
> really don't need.
>
> Bob
>
>
>
>

#1362 From: Bill Herrmann <bherrman@...>
Date: Sat Apr 2, 2005 6:29 am
Subject: Re: I-Gate - Can I eliminate incoming data?
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At 12:38 PM 4/1/2005 +0000, w4kbw wrote:
>Can I set it up to NOT receive information from the internet, but
>still gate local information TO the internet?

Pete mentions the filter ports. Another good alternative is the message
only ports. You get messages and could potentially gate those (if you
desire later) but the volume is much lower.

Bill

#1363 From: "AE5PL Lists" <HamLists@...>
Date: Sat Apr 2, 2005 12:20 pm
Subject: RE: I-Gate - Can I eliminate incoming data?
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Yes, Bill is correct that the message-only port is lower volume than the
full stream.

I want to take this opportunity to let everyone know that filter ports
work perfectly with messaging.  Just like the IGate, they keep track of
stations heard on RF and pass all messages to the IGate which are
destined for stations on RF.  The APRS+SA IGate still uses hop counts to
further restrict what gets gated to RF, but at least all of the messages
are available to the IGate for gating.

In other words, an IGate works perfectly on a filter port and does not
require to see the entire APRS-IS message stream via the message-only
port.

Just clarifying the different port operations.

73,

Pete Loveall AE5PL
mailto:pete@...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Herrmann
> Posted At: Saturday, April 02, 2005 12:38 AM
> Subject: Re: [aprsplus] I-Gate - Can I eliminate incoming data?
>
> Pete mentions the filter ports. Another good alternative is
> the message only ports. You get messages and could
> potentially gate those (if you desire later) but the volume
> is much lower.

#1364 From: "David Dunster" <dave_dunster@...>
Date: Sun May 1, 2005 12:55 am
Subject: APRS+SA HTML Docs
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Hello all

Yes, I'm still around. I've moved my HTML docs to another site. They are now
at: www.cdnhams.ca <http://www.cdnhams.ca/>

In the move, I lost the pdf file of the HTML docs. If someone has it
available for download, please let me know where and I'll come and get it.

Thanks.

Signed

Dave Dunster, VE5DGD
www.cdnhams.ca <http://www.cdnhams.ca/>
ve5dgd@...

#1365 From: "David Dunster" <dave_dunster@...>
Date: Mon May 2, 2005 10:36 pm
Subject: re: APRS+SA HTML Docs
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Thanks to those who replied to my request. I was able to get the file from a
member of the list.

If anyone would like to help me fill in the blanks, so to speak, on the
site, I'd be very grateful.

Thanks again.

Signed

Dave Dunster, VE5DGD
Regina., SK

#1366 From: "The Bailey's" <mdrdg@...>
Date: Tue May 31, 2005 10:21 am
Subject: Test 2
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This is another test

#1367 From: "Bob Bailey" <mdrdg@...>
Date: Tue May 31, 2005 10:20 am
Subject: Test
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Test post to see if this thing is working.

#1368 From: "Kevin" <w0kcf@...>
Date: Wed Jun 1, 2005 8:37 pm
Subject: plans for upgrading APRS-SA
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Are there any plans to update APRS-SA to use a more current version of
SA? I'm finding a lot of errors in the ones in SA9 for southwest Colorado.


73
Kevin
W0KCF

#1369 From: Brent Hildebrand <bhildebrand@...>
Date: Wed Jun 1, 2005 9:57 pm
Subject: Re: plans for upgrading APRS-SA
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I have no plans to support the newer SA products, for a number of reasons. 
However, I do have working a newer program that uses Garmin MapSource for
position display.  I also have working code that uses Garmin's USB interface to
their GPS receivers, which I may add to APRS+SA.  MapSource plotting is via a
program called ViewPoint, and if there are those who are interested in trying
the program, please let me know.  Note that it currently only connects to the
APRS Internet System, or with a TNC via the KIPSS interface, and only decodes
position and status packets, no messaging.  Brent KH2Z


-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin <w0kcf@...>
Sent: Jun 1, 2005 1:37 PM
To: aprsplus@...
Subject: [aprsplus] plans for upgrading APRS-SA

Are there any plans to update APRS-SA to use a more current version of
SA? I'm finding a lot of errors in the ones in SA9 for southwest Colorado.


73
Kevin
W0KCF

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