Dear Lynn and any others lurking around,

After using this program a few weeks and trying it off and on, AND getting my
local digi owner to change his settings for complete 2way text messaging all I
can say is WOW!  This is really cool.  No problems with the program once I got
used to what the buttons all do and set a hot button (the camera) on my HTC
Touch (SPRINT).  Once the local digi owner changed settings for phone->a field
radio I realized the full potential of text messaging on APRS.  I tried texting
a friend last night and it "just knocked his socks off".  We moved to a voice
channel and chatted quite a while about phone->radio and back messaging.

Thanks again,

John
K2QY

OH, and I forgot.  It was neat to see my phone icon show up on the AVMap G5 and
mover around with me ;-)

I'm sure there are some hams out there now wondering what a phone is doing
moving around on their UIView or Xaster screens :-O

73
John
K2QY

  Greetings! I downloaded and installed APRSISCE6P090811 on my HP iPAQ 6955 with WM5.

  It appears to functioning correctly. I have been able to send messages from the HP to the APRS group. There is a 'small' issue with the callsigns being displayed on the left side of the screen -- only able to see the first three (3) digits available.

  I can post a screen shot tomorrow if requested.

  The APRS-IS is a worthy tool for ARES use on a pocket PC.

Thanking-you in advance.

73
de James, VE2KHC
Montreal, Canada
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
James Keep, VE2KHC
RAC Certified Emergency Coordinator (EC) – Vaudreuil-Soulanges ARES
FN25xj
514-945-2120

http://aprs.fi/?call=VE2KHC

Dear Lynn,

  Greetings!  I have enclosed two (2) pictures of APRISCE latest version; the satellite section of the screen works fine.  It's the delay with taking the picture while working from my desk…

Thanks!

73
de James, VE2KHC

P.S.  From the HP brochure:   "The HP iPAQ hw6900 Mobile Messenger utilizes a 3.0" transflective TFT display, with 240 x 240 resolution, 64K colors, LED backlight (with power saver mode)."

I saw this go by on another APRS mailing list (UI-View) back on 8/8/2008:

> Here are those common defaults:
>
> -0 Home Station, Home Station running IGate.
> -1 Digipeater, Home Station running a Relay Digi, Wx Digipeater
> -2 Digipeater [#2 or] on 70CM
> -3 Digipeater [#3]
> -4 HF to VHF Gateway
> -5 IGate (Not home station)
> -6 is for Operations via Satellite
> -7 Kenwood D7 HH
> -8 is for boats, sailboats and ships (maybe 802.11 in the future)
> -9 is for Mobiles
> -10 is for operation via The internet only
> -11 is for APRStouch-tone users (and the occasional Balloons)
> -12 Portable Units such as Laptops, Camp Sites etc.
> -13 Un-asigned
> -14 is for Truckers
> -15 is for HF

I've chosen -12 for my APRSISCE as it is definitely portable and may
someday actually go via RF.  -10 seems more for non-mobile Internet
clients like WinLink and UI-View.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile

PS.  I'm posting this here so I can quit trying to remember where it was
that I saw it before!

Howdy folks,

I just downloaded the 090811 build & installed it on my ATT Tilt (aka
Kaiser/Tytn II).  Seems to be working just fine -- it tracked me to work,
anyway.

http://aprs.fi/?call=AB8JC-12&mt=m&z=11&timerange=10800

Thanks for the software, Lynn!

Steve
AB8JC

You're quite welcome Steve!  I happened to notice you come on-line this
morning (filter of u/APWM00 gives you all APRSISCE users, regardless of
location) and also saw your truck (AB8JC-9).  I enjoy watching my RF
tracker playing catch-up with my phone when I go mobile.  It makes a
good way of detecting APRS RF coverage when you're out of your normal
territory.

Glad you're finding the software useful.  If all goes well, there'll be
a new release coming out soon.  I need to work out popup menus on
Windows Mobile and then I'll get it out the door.  If any of you have
any "hot" features you'd like to see, let me know and I'll see what I
can do!

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile

ab8jc wrote:
> Howdy folks,
>
> I just downloaded the 090811 build & installed it on my ATT Tilt (aka
Kaiser/Tytn II).  Seems to be working just fine -- it tracked me to work,
anyway.
>
> http://aprs.fi/?call=AB8JC-12&mt=m&z=11&timerange=10800
>
> Thanks for the software, Lynn!
>
> Steve
> AB8JC
>

Kevin Jensen wrote:
> Lynn,
>
> I know you are busy.  My background is electrical engineering so I am
> very curious about the application.  Yes I will read more about it in
> the groups.yahoo page; but am at work where I do not have access.  So
> hope you do not mind a couple questions.
>
If you don't mind random delays in getting answers, I certainly don't
mind answering them!  I hope you don't mind that I copied the answer to
the group so that others might benefit.
> 1)  My cellphone will go into battery save mode after a minute.  Will
> the APRS-IS client still keep sending beacon points?  When I look on
> the APRS GOOGLE map of my activity (I am N1KCG-12) it looks like it
> stopped after I got on the highway, after about two or three minutes.
>
In my experience, when the phone turns "off" in battery save mode, the
GPS is also turned off.  My application doesn't muck at all with power
settings, so beaconing will stop, but incoming APRS-IS updates will
continue.
> 2)  How rapidly will my battery get drained running APRS-IS?  Any data
> on its effect on power in a typical cellphone with a GPRS circuit, and
> data connectivity?
>
>
The battery with GPS and APRS-IS active will drain quite quickly.  I
always plug my phone into a power adapter in the car and only turn off
the power savings timer when I KNOW I want to continue tracking.  Once
in power saver with only a modest-radius APRS-IS feed active, it'll last
longer, but still MUCH less than if the client itself were closed or
APRS-IS disabled.

The client also transmits battery level telemetry.  You can see mine at:

http://aprs.fi/telemetry/KJ4ERJ-12

The week view has some good days in it and the month or year view shows
just how mean I've been to my battery.  I'm now running an extended
capacity battery on my AT&T Tilt.  I'm happy with the battery life (3-4
hours with full APRS-IS and GPS, 6 hours with only APRS-IS), but I don't
like the fact that it no longer fits in my belt clip.
> 3)  I assume that the APRS-IS client needs a GPS circuit in the
> cellphone, and a unlimited data connection.  Is that true?
>
>
Yes, the client relies on a GPSapi-supported GPS unit and sends/receives
lots of data so an unlimited plan is highly recommended.
> 4)  Since I am running WM6 on my cellphone, will the APRS-IS client
> run in the background, while I use the phone for other activities?
> Can I receive phone calls?  Supposing it depends on the cellphone, but
> that most that can run the APRS-IS client under WM6 might be able to
> handle the multitasking.
>
>
The application will continue to run in the background, but the ability
to maintain a data connection while receiving calls is up to the
cellular provider and the infrastructure around you.  I've had calls go
straight to voice-mail in some cells.  I've had the data connection stop
when the phone rang and resume when I terminated the voice call.  And
I've had the data connection continue operating while talking on the
phone.  And these were all on the SAME phone, just in different
geographical areas.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile

Thanks Lynn - once again showing that Hams are genius material.

On 10/16/09, Lynn W. Deffenbaugh <KJ4ERJ@...> wrote:
> Kevin Jensen wrote:
>> Lynn,
>>
>> I know you are busy.  My background is electrical engineering so I am
>> very curious about the application.  Yes I will read more about it in
>> the groups.yahoo page; but am at work where I do not have access.  So
>> hope you do not mind a couple questions.
>>
> If you don't mind random delays in getting answers, I certainly don't
> mind answering them!  I hope you don't mind that I copied the answer to
> the group so that others might benefit.
>> 1)  My cellphone will go into battery save mode after a minute.  Will
>> the APRS-IS client still keep sending beacon points?  When I look on
>> the APRS GOOGLE map of my activity (I am N1KCG-12) it looks like it
>> stopped after I got on the highway, after about two or three minutes.
>>
> In my experience, when the phone turns "off" in battery save mode, the
> GPS is also turned off.  My application doesn't muck at all with power
> settings, so beaconing will stop, but incoming APRS-IS updates will
> continue.
>> 2)  How rapidly will my battery get drained running APRS-IS?  Any data
>> on its effect on power in a typical cellphone with a GPRS circuit, and
>> data connectivity?
>>
>>
> The battery with GPS and APRS-IS active will drain quite quickly.  I
> always plug my phone into a power adapter in the car and only turn off
> the power savings timer when I KNOW I want to continue tracking.  Once
> in power saver with only a modest-radius APRS-IS feed active, it'll last
> longer, but still MUCH less than if the client itself were closed or
> APRS-IS disabled.
>
> The client also transmits battery level telemetry.  You can see mine at:
>
> http://aprs.fi/telemetry/KJ4ERJ-12
>
> The week view has some good days in it and the month or year view shows
> just how mean I've been to my battery.  I'm now running an extended
> capacity battery on my AT&T Tilt.  I'm happy with the battery life (3-4
> hours with full APRS-IS and GPS, 6 hours with only APRS-IS), but I don't
> like the fact that it no longer fits in my belt clip.
>> 3)  I assume that the APRS-IS client needs a GPS circuit in the
>> cellphone, and a unlimited data connection.  Is that true?
>>
>>
> Yes, the client relies on a GPSapi-supported GPS unit and sends/receives
> lots of data so an unlimited plan is highly recommended.
>> 4)  Since I am running WM6 on my cellphone, will the APRS-IS client
>> run in the background, while I use the phone for other activities?
>> Can I receive phone calls?  Supposing it depends on the cellphone, but
>> that most that can run the APRS-IS client under WM6 might be able to
>> handle the multitasking.
>>
>>
> The application will continue to run in the background, but the ability
> to maintain a data connection while receiving calls is up to the
> cellular provider and the infrastructure around you.  I've had calls go
> straight to voice-mail in some cells.  I've had the data connection stop
> when the phone rang and resume when I terminated the voice call.  And
> I've had the data connection continue operating while talking on the
> phone.  And these were all on the SAME phone, just in different
> geographical areas.
>
> Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile
>
>
>

Hi Lynn,

I would like to see the option to change your icon from the phone (for use in
different activities such as Bike Races, EMCOM, Fox Hunts, etc), and perhaps the
option to turn off battery telemetry.  Let us know what you think about those.
:-)

It's also working very well for me so far.  I had a minor GPS radio glitch and
had to completely flash the ROM to stock, but that was my fault – I was hacking
away with some different programs.

Jason, K2ENG


--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn W. Deffenbaugh" <kj4erj@...> wrote:
>
> If any of you have
> any "hot" features you'd like to see, let me know and I'll see what > I can
do!
>
> Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the aprsisce
group.

   File        : /APRSISCE6P091016.zip
   Uploaded by : ldeffenb <kj4erj@...>
   Description : Popup Station Menus, Center on Stations, Better Messaging,
Config Symbol, Disablable Telemetry

You can access this file at the URL:
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To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
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Regards,

ldeffenb <kj4erj@...>

I just posted a new release, APRSISCE6P091016.zip, in the Files section
of the group.  Release notes will come later, but some of the highlights
are:

Popup Station Menus - Click on station icon or station list for
Info/Center/Lookup/Message

WHO-IS Lookup - Click on station and select "Lookup"

Center on Stations - Click on station and select "Center", Click Heading
or Scale to go back home

Better Messaging - Menu/Messages/Pending Messages to retransmit (no
auto-retry yet)
(No Msg will be Yellow if messages are waiting for acks)
(Ack Received no long appears, but you might see an Unexpected Ack
sometimes)

Config Symbol - Menu/Configure/Click on the Symbol and spin buttons
(Yes, you don't have to be a phone any more!)
(Most recently requested by Jason, K2ENG)

Disablable Telemetry - Via Menu/Enables/Telemetry
(Requested by Jason, K2ENG)

Enjoy the new features!  I know I have been while developing them!

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the aprsisce
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   Description : 2009/10/16 Release Notes!

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Here's what's new in APRSISCE6P091016.zip

1) The Tile prefetcher now has a better timeout.  I also run two
concurrent threads (on the Windows Mobile platform) so the tiles fetch a
bit faster.

2) Bad tile files are now removed from the device when they are
detected.  Still to come is a tile ager and purger.

3) On larger screen devices, Icons will now grow to double size for
better clarity (complements Noel W8TVI)

4) The circle stations redraw has been optimized, especially if a flood
of packets arrives in a short span of time.

5) You can now center the screen on an arbitrary station.  Just select
Center from a station's popup menu.  Double-clicking on the heading
rectangle offers to center back on you.  If the station you're centered
on moves, the map moves to keep it centered.  If the centered station
ages out and is replaced, the center will automatically move back to you.

6) Both the OpenStreetMap fetcher and the APRS-IS server connection
cache the most recently resolved DNS name for faster connects.

7) Messages sent with acks requested are now buffered until the ack is
received.  The message rectangle turns yellow while there are
ack-pending messages.  Access them for retry or cancel via
Menu/Messages/Pending Messages (disabled when none are pending).  When
expected acks are received, the Ack popup is suppressed.  Only
unexpected or duplicate Acks will generate a popup.

8) Battery voltage telemetry is now disablable (requested by Jason,
K2ENG).  Battery voltage is still monitored and displayed in the slider.

9) Other stations running APRSISCE are highlighted in pale yellow on the
scrolling stations list.  You can request seeing others by adding
u/APWM* to your filter text.  (That's how some of you get messages from
me seemingly out of the blue!)

10) Changed overlay symbol text color on Number Diamonds (Digi and HF
Gateway).

11) Optimized redrawing to decrease system load when lots of station
updates come in quickly.  This is really important when you monitor a
large radius or a busy area.  (This may slow updates down to 2 per
second, but that seems fast enough).

12) Increased cached fonts and support BOLD display of symbol overlays.

13) Reversed Reply and Dismiss when messages are received to match the
Dismiss placement of Windows Mobile appointment reminders.

14) Tracks are now attached to their generating station even when
zooming way out (they used to detach if you zoom out too far).

15) Zooming out to extreme zoom now sticks the stations where they
belong.  You can now zoom out to an entire world view (not that the
phone platform can handle seeing all of that, but it's pretty neat when
watching all APRSISCE users!)

16) When centering on another station, APRSISCE automatically adds a
friend filter using the configured radius around them.  This can cause
more stations and map sections to be active, also benefiting from being
able to zoom further out.  The original filter is restored when you move
yourself back to the center.

17) The configuration dialog now supports setting your symbol!  Just
click on the symbol below the Genius(tm) button.  Select your table
(Primary, Alternate, or Overlay) and then spin the spinner(s) and watch
the symbol and name change.  Remember that not all clients support
overlays on all symbols!  (Most recently requested by Jason, K2ENG).

18) Overlays are now drawn MUCH more clearly on symbols of various
sizes.  Play with them in the Configuration Dialog and see them in the
circle and in the scrolling station list.

19) The FIRST transmission now includes the satelite counts like GotFix
always has.

20) Sending an APRS message that starts with ? will suppress the request
for an ack.  This seems to be necessary to talk to some servers.  If you
need an ack on a ? message (like sending ? to CQSERV), enter it as
<space>? and the ack will be requested.

21) If centering on another station, other station Information popups
will show Rel: nnnmi XXX as in distance and bearing from the center.  If
you are centered, it still displays Pos: nnnmi XXX as the distance and
bearing from YOU.

22) The Spd: nnnmph is now actually displaying miles per hour rather
than knots as it has been doing until now.

23) Clicking on a station in either the station list or the circle will
now present a popup menu of the station ID(s) with a cascade that will
offer Info, Center, Lookup, and sometimes Message.
Info gets you the old information popup about the station.
Center will move that station to the center of the screen (indicated
with a checkmark if you pop it up again).
Lookup will send that station's callsign (sans -SSID) to WHO-IS via APRS
messaging.
Message is only offered if the station indicates messaging capability.

24) Icons in the station list are larger than they were.  I think
they're more clear, but they do touch and overlap somewhat.  Let me know
what you think.

25) Tracks now include dots where transmissions occured, but only for
the station currently in the center of the screen.  If dots overlap (for
instance when zoomed out), some will be suppressed.

26) All track points are drawn for the center station.  Other stations
only display the most recent N points of their recorded track.
Centering on a station will display the full track with dots on the most
recent points.

27) The message rectangle no longer scales the color.  It is Green when
there is an incoming message pending, Yellow when there are outbound
messages awaiting acks, and Orange/Red when both inbound and outbound
messages are queued.  It also now says "No Msg" rather than "N/A" when
there are no pending incoming messages.

28) The pending tile fetch queue is flushed if you zoom in and out and
move around a bunch before it catchs up.  If you go back to a previous
area, it will requeue the tiles.

29) Clear Tracks (and double-click the Odometer) now prompts for
clearing other stations' tracks separately from your own.

30) When selecting Menu/Messages/Pending Messages, you will get a popup
of the target stations.  Selecting one will bring up that pending
message and offer to Abort, Retry, or Ignore (keep).

31) Support Item-In-Message display!  See
http://www.aprs.org/aprs12/item-in-msg.txt - Basically, if you send
item-position-formatted text to APRSISCE as a message, the object will
be displayed.  Consider the following geocaches:
)GC1TX0D!2800.38N/08039.03W.Turtle House D1.5T2.0
)GC1RDVK!2805.13N/08036.32W.Hero Cache D1.5 T2.0
)GC1EK82!2805.02N/08037.10W.Parking Fee D1.5 T1.0
)GC1R0N6!2804.98N/08037.34W.STP #43 D1.5 T1.5
)GC1QWQ7!2804.80N/08037.28W.Straw-post D3.5 T2.5
)GC14TRT!2800.54N/08035.45W.But I can still see the CAR! D2.5 T2.5
)GC14YPT!2800.61N/08035.54W.No Pooh Sticks Here! D3 T3
)GC14YPT2!2800.56N/08035.62W.Pooh Sticks FINAL
)GC14N1Y!2800.70N/08035.61W.TDJ's Quark and Riffster's Can D1.5 T2.5
)GC17K8V!2800.73N/08035.20W.Small Trails - Smaller Cache (For Now) D2.5 T3.0
)GC1JH1T!2758.51N/08039.53W.Smitty Clan Cache D2 T1.5
If you copy each line of this and send it to APRSISCE, you'll get an X
(/. symbol) on the spot of the geocache!  You can probably guess where
THIS is going, eh?  I need to support !DAO! before you have a hope of
finding a cache, though.  1/100 minute just isn't close enough!

32) Begin to identify clients and handle extra and missing trailing
spaces in APRS parser

33) Parse and track MessageCapable-identified clients for offering
Message in station popup

34) Clean up comment text a bit

To Dos: (Incomplete)
Automatic, decaying retransmission of non-acked messages (start at 30+
seconds due to APRS-IS dupe checker)
Read message display (they disappear now once read)
Tile ager/purger - Critical now that you can center on other stations!
Parse and display Frequency object information
Parse, use, and transmit !DAO! (APRS PRECISION AND DATUM OPTION)
Support the -180/180 latitude wrap with closest display tile
Find a better icon scaling algorithm based on screen size & scale
Fix up fonts for VGA (640x480) devices (test with Noel W8TVI)
Allow configuration of location for OSMTiles cache (w/o editing XML)
Allow configuration of date/time display & GMT vs local (Dave N8PU)
Allow configurable removal of some screen elements (Satellites, John N8JJ)
Pan (Drag) screen for browsing the map
Record/Recall last DNS/IP for OSM/APRS-IS (in config file, for
connecting without DNS)
Asynchronous TCP/IP connections & reading (solves hangs)
Timeout on OSM Tile fetcher (solves stalls)
Implement whatever results from the Zoom +/- Poll

Win32 client only for the following:
Simultaneously track multiple targets in separate circles
Support NMEA GPS

Extreme future:
Support KISS TNCs

Lynn - thanks for a great application.  I am looking for some kind of utility
that would wake up the phone from battery saver mode, to allow a beacon of my
position.

since phones naturally want to go to battery save mode, there must be some
application that will bring my data connection up, activate aprsisce and then
put the phone back to sleep.  maybe once every five, ten or twenty minutes;
assuming i am on battery power,and assuming i have a data connection.

alternatively, wondering if the aprs protocol would allow a mobile station to
record its position versus time; and then upload the data when a data connection
is re-established.  does aprs protocol allow that?

--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn W. Deffenbaugh" <kj4erj@...> wrote:
>
> Here's what's new in APRSISCE6P091016.zip
>
> 20) Sending an APRS message that starts with ? will suppress the request
> for an ack.  This seems to be necessary to talk to some servers.  If you
> need an ack on a ? message (like sending ? to CQSERV), enter it as
> <space>? and the ack will be requested.

As you probably know, an unnumbered message that starts with a ? is considered a
directed query (see the Queries section of the APRS spec).  A numbered message's
text is not mapped to anything within the spec.

You might have a separate Query entry (could allow generic queries as well
although those are blocked on APRS-IS due to the sheer volume of responses)
instead of melding them into your message form.  Part of the reason for separate
is because people tend to look for a response but many queries result in posits
or status packets being sent which won't show up in a message window.  Just a
thought.

73,

Pete AE5PL

I am wondering if there is a way to keep the application active even in battery
saver mode...  There are some apps that seem to run regardless (Bing, Google
Maps, ActiveSync, etc.  I would be very interested if there is a way to "mark"
the app as always active.  I will do some looking through my development stuff
on this as well.

73,

Pete AE5PL

--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "n1kcg" <ktjensen@...> wrote:
>
> Lynn - thanks for a great application.  I am looking for some kind of utility
that would wake up the phone from battery saver mode, to allow a beacon of my
position.
>
> since phones naturally want to go to battery save mode, there must be some
application that will bring my data connection up, activate aprsisce and then
put the phone back to sleep.  maybe once every five, ten or twenty minutes;
assuming i am on battery power,and assuming i have a data connection.
>
> alternatively, wondering if the aprs protocol would allow a mobile station to
record its position versus time; and then upload the data when a data connection
is re-established.  does aprs protocol allow that?
>

Someone inquired about my KJ4ERJ-AP callsign, so I thought I'd give you
all a list of the -SSIDs I use, just in case you ever receive a message
from one of them.  Rest assured, ALL KJ4ERJ-xx are really me (in one
shape or form).  (Yes, this is THE Lynn as I've been referred to
recently by two completely independent people).  (And no, I don't have
an ego as large as Richard Heene.  I'm just trying to further APRS by
providing a new, update-able, APRS-IS client application.)

KJ4ERJ - My original IGate, now used for testing and comparing the
receive abilities of various TNC/Radio combinations vs my primary
IGate.  This is actually a javAPRSsrv IGate callsign related to -5 and
whatever TNC I hook it up to.

KJ4ERJ-1 - Don't remember what I used this one for, but it's been idle
for 9 months

KJ4ERJ-2 - My primary javAPRSsrv IGate software (related to -6 & -7)

KJ4ERJ-5 - APRS-IS access callsign for my original IGate KJ4ERJ (w/o SSID)

KJ4ERJ-6 - APRS-IS access callsign for my primary IGate KJ4ERJ-2 (and -7)

KJ4ERJ-7 - TinyTrak4/Icom IC-T22A (HT) on a copper cactus at 20' as my
primary IGate

KJ4ERJ-8 - Kenwood D7 mobile HT in my car on a 1/4 wave Hershey Kiss
antenna (on loan from AI4GK)

KJ4ERJ-9 - Alinco DR-135/T2-135/Nuvi350 in my car on a 5/8 wave dual bander

KJ4ERJ-10 - UI-View software on my laptop.  Interfaces via -IS normally,
but may go mobile via some TNC in the future.

KJ4ERJ-12 - APRSISCE for Windows Mobile on my AT&T Tilt phone.  This is
nearly always on, and nearly always with me.

KJ4ERJ-14 - Formerly an Alinco DR-135/T2-135/Nuvi350 in wife's van.
This is now KJ4OVQ-9 now that she is licensed!

KJ4ERJ-15 - Unfiltered feed APRS-IS monitor instance of APRSIS32 (a
soon-to-be-released APRSISCE for Windows)

KJ4ERJ-3 - I don't think I've used this one yet!
KJ4ERJ-4 - Ditto on the not-used-yet
KJ4ERJ-11 - Haven't used this one yet
KJ4ERJ-13 - Nope, haven't used it either

That's the end of the RF-legal SSIDs.  The following -SSIDs are used for
exclusively APRS-IS Internet access:

KJ4ERJ-AP - APRSIS32 testing instance monitoring APRSISCE for Windows
Mobile users via u/APWM* filter.  I watch the behavior of various tracks
to validate (or invalidate) features of the client as you all move
around.  It's easier (especially in the latest version with the Message
option in the station popup menu) to send you a message from this one.

KJ4ERJ-BK - Originally an APRSIS32 monitoring an APRS-tracked bike ride
in the Pacific NorthWest, but re-purposed to monitoring Planet Earth for
posted Earthquakes and Hurricanes (I DO live in Florida, after all).  I
do this with a filter of s/@/@Q and a configured lat/lon just off of 0/0.

KJ4ERJ-SA - An APRS-IS Satellite monitor using APRSIS32 via a filter of
s/S/S and also a configured lat/lon just off of 0/0.

KJ4ERJ-?? - There's another -SSID I've used for Xastir running in a VM,
but I really don't remember which one it was/is and I haven't
re-installed VmWare on my laptop since upgrading it to Windows 7 RTM.

Ok, so you're wondering when you can get a copy of APRSIS32 for
Windows?  I need to implement a way to configure your lat/lon without
manually editing the XML configuration file.  I'd also like to figure
out a way to allow multiple windows (with custom filters) from a single
APRSIS32 instance with a single APRS-IS connection running the merged
filters of all window instances.  Right now, I run my own local
javAPRSsrvr server with a single full feed from which I filter the
various feeds for my APRSIS32 instances.  This works for me, but I
really want a better way to handle multiple views with a single feed.

For those of you familiar with UI-View's "local server", that's what I'm
shooting for within APRSIS32, but with an automatic filter built from
the various views.  Consider the power of this with the new "center on"
function of APRSISCE and you'll see where I'm headed!  I've even
considered a full-screen version that moves the circles around and
overlaps/merges them as centered stations get close enough provided the
circles are running a shared zoom.  That's way-out-there, blue-sky
thinking at the moment though.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile

PS.  On a loosely-related project note, you can see the recent RF APRS
traffic rates to my IGate at:

http://tinyurl.com/KJ4ERJ-Current

or

http://ldeffenb.dnsalias.net:3000/catchall?FormName=RealMain&CellCount=10&Minute\
sPerCell=10&RfOnly=1&GateID=KJ4ERJ-2

PPS.  If you've made it this far, please reply back with your top two or
three requests for the next release of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile.  The
top one on my list is to be able to drag the map around on the screen
without hopping from station to station using the Center option.  I'm
hoping for a hold/drag/release interaction to move the map.

Just some tips on how to run Winodws Mobile and to keep the APRSISCE application
running continuous.

1)  Turn off power save mode when plugged in.  Typically you would have your
cellphone plugged into a power outlet in the car to keep the application
running, so why not just turn off any power save mode.

2)  Turn off the AUTOMATIC LOCK tool in Windows Mobile.  The locking tool seems
to also deactivate any application running.

3)  Turn off the AUTOMATIC SCREEN DIMMING tool.  It also seems to deactivate any
application running.  Make sure you do not turn the screen off, as that puts
applications in suspend.

I will be doing more testing with a screen blanker, and seeing how long the
power can last with the APRSISCE running continuous.

Here is a breadcrumb tool to see the point beaconed while you drive.  all
printed on a map.

http://www.reng.ca/map/aprs.php

But is there something that is better for a tool?

I'm not sure what sort of tool you are wanting?  I use aprs.fi when I
want to look at my track.  Or are you looking for something to genera a
static image of a range of time?  Something like the stuff you'll find at

http://ldeffenb.dnsalias.net.nyud.net/Tracking/CostaRica/*.png (yes,
that's a * dot png)

http://ldeffenb.dnsalias.net.nyud.net/Tracking/CostaRica/KJ4ERJ-12-2009-03-25T13\
.51.39-2009-03-25T22.59.25-15.png

(zoom in and scroll around to see the details)

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile

n1kcg wrote:
> Here is a breadcrumb tool to see the point beaconed while you drive.  all
printed on a map.
>
> http://www.reng.ca/map/aprs.php
>
> But is there something that is better for a tool?
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

This one's pretty neat showing our drive to Miami from home...

http://ldeffenb.dnsalias.net.nyud.net/Tracking/CostaRica/KJ4ERJ-12-2009-03-23T07\
.52.29-2009-03-23T12.22.00-10.png

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

n1kcg wrote:
> Here is a breadcrumb tool to see the point beaconed while you drive.  all
printed on a map.
>
> http://www.reng.ca/map/aprs.php
>
> But is there something that is better for a tool?
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

Is it possible to switch units to metric system?
I'm also change path for cached OSM maps to storage card in xml, is it possible
to make this directly in menu in next version?
Also is missing for me possibility for free moving on map (like google maps on
wm) without restrictions on aprs station.

Aprsisce seems by great plug and play program on wm for novice and lazy nonradio
aprs hams like me :) In Slovakia we have problems with only few Radio gate,
therefore is only few people on aprs and aprsisce seems to be way for expansion
aprs in Slovakia... I play little bit also with aprsce / AGW CE and aprsisce is
very easy for setting and using for me.

Sorry for my English, i don't have problem with reading, but with writing
something :)

Anton wrote:
> Is it possible to switch units to metric system?
>
I'll add that one to the list.  Currently it's very US-centric.
> I'm also change path for cached OSM maps to storage card in xml, is it
possible to make this directly in menu in next version?
>
That is already on the list, but I'm glad you found the .XML
configuration file and got it changed.  The OSM directory currently
grows and grows without upper bound.  A future version will track usage
of the cached tiles and delete ones that have not been referenced for
some configurable time period.  I'm also planning to provide some
visibility to how many tiles at the various zoom levels are in the cache
and how much space they occupy.
> Also is missing for me possibility for free moving on map (like google maps on
wm) without restrictions on aprs station.
>
>
That is actually the top of the list, but I really need to manage the
OSM cache before I do this one.  When you can drag around the map, you
can really buffer a BUNCH of OSM tiles.  My phone currently has over
300MB of cached tiles (yes, mine is on the SD card also).
> Aprsisce seems by great plug and play program on wm for novice and lazy
nonradio aprs hams like me :) In Slovakia we have problems with only few Radio
gate, therefore is only few people on aprs and aprsisce seems to be way for
expansion aprs in Slovakia... I play little bit also with aprsce / AGW CE and
aprsisce is very easy for setting and using for me.
>
>
Thanks for the compliments.  I'm striving to keep it simple to use, yet
powerful enough to cover anything most people would want to do.
> Sorry for my English, i don't have problem with reading, but with writing
something :)
>
>
The goal of any language is communication and you have succeeded in
doing that.  Thank you for the response and the suggestions!

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile

looks like aprs.fi can do the job well.  just needed to get the correct settings


--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn W. Deffenbaugh" <kj4erj@...> wrote:
>
> This one's pretty neat showing our drive to Miami from home...
>
>
http://ldeffenb.dnsalias.net.nyud.net/Tracking/CostaRica/KJ4ERJ-12-2009-03-23T07\
.52.29-2009-03-23T12.22.00-10.png
>
> Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ
>
> n1kcg wrote:
> > Here is a breadcrumb tool to see the point beaconed while you drive.  all
printed on a map.
> >
> > http://www.reng.ca/map/aprs.php
> >
> > But is there something that is better for a tool?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Did some more testing of the configuration on my WM6 cellphone.  Right mow am
leaning towards useing the application S2U2 as a power saver and sleep tool;
while using APRSISCE.   The latest version of S2U2 has an exceptions list.  If I
put APRSISCE on the exceptions list the S2U2 will never start in, and APRSISCE
keeps running regardless of battery power levels.

Of course all battery power saver startup routines are disabled at all times
now.  Will keep investigating.





--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "ae5pl" <pete@...> wrote:
>
> I am wondering if there is a way to keep the application active even in
battery saver mode...  There are some apps that seem to run regardless (Bing,
Google Maps, ActiveSync, etc.  I would be very interested if there is a way to
"mark" the app as always active.  I will do some looking through my development
stuff on this as well.
>
> 73,
>
> Pete AE5PL
>
> --- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "n1kcg" <ktjensen@> wrote:
> >
> > Lynn - thanks for a great application.  I am looking for some kind of
utility that would wake up the phone from battery saver mode, to allow a beacon
of my position.
> >
> > since phones naturally want to go to battery save mode, there must be some
application that will bring my data connection up, activate aprsisce and then
put the phone back to sleep.  maybe once every five, ten or twenty minutes;
assuming i am on battery power,and assuming i have a data connection.
> >
> > alternatively, wondering if the aprs protocol would allow a mobile station
to record its position versus time; and then upload the data when a data
connection is re-established.  does aprs protocol allow that?
> >
>

Thanks for doing the research!  Please keep us posted, I'm sure it will
interest all of us.  I'm especially interested for when I go mobile
walking without my normal external charger pack to keep the phone happy
for 6-8 hours.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

n1kcg wrote:
> Did some more testing of the configuration on my WM6 cellphone.  Right mow am
leaning towards useing the application S2U2 as a power saver and sleep tool;
while using APRSISCE.   The latest version of S2U2 has an exceptions list.  If I
put APRSISCE on the exceptions list the S2U2 will never start in, and APRSISCE
keeps running regardless of battery power levels.
>
> Of course all battery power saver startup routines are disabled at all times
now.  Will keep investigating.
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "ae5pl" <pete@...> wrote:
>
>> I am wondering if there is a way to keep the application active even in
battery saver mode...  There are some apps that seem to run regardless (Bing,
Google Maps, ActiveSync, etc.  I would be very interested if there is a way to
"mark" the app as always active.  I will do some looking through my development
stuff on this as well.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Pete AE5PL
>>
>> --- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "n1kcg" <ktjensen@> wrote:
>>
>>> Lynn - thanks for a great application.  I am looking for some kind of
utility that would wake up the phone from battery saver mode, to allow a beacon
of my position.
>>>
>>> since phones naturally want to go to battery save mode, there must be some
application that will bring my data connection up, activate aprsisce and then
put the phone back to sleep.  maybe once every five, ten or twenty minutes;
assuming i am on battery power,and assuming i have a data connection.
>>>
>>> alternatively, wondering if the aprs protocol would allow a mobile station
to record its position versus time; and then upload the data when a data
connection is re-established.  does aprs protocol allow that?
>>>
>>>

the aprs.fi tool seems to do a pretty good job.  just had to tweak it some.

--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn W. Deffenbaugh" <kj4erj@...> wrote:
>
> This one's pretty neat showing our drive to Miami from home...
>
>
http://ldeffenb.dnsalias.net.nyud.net/Tracking/CostaRica/KJ4ERJ-12-2009-03-23T07\
.52.29-2009-03-23T12.22.00-10.png
>
> Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ
>
> n1kcg wrote:
> > Here is a breadcrumb tool to see the point beaconed while you drive.  all
printed on a map.
> >
> > http://www.reng.ca/map/aprs.php
> >
> > But is there something that is better for a tool?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Okay did further testing to find a way to run APRSISCE continuous, on
battery power only, and found:

1)  Never, never, never hit the power button on your cellphone to
blank the screen.  Even though in theory, the phone under WM6 should
keep the applications running in the background; instead it puts all
applications in SUSPEND, thus turning off applications.  This is no
good for APRSISCE, as it turns it off.  Even with the S2U2
application, and APRSISCE loaded as a excepted application to S2U2,
somehow APRSISCE goes into suspend.

2)  Instead, to save on battery power, install the applications
"ScreenOff", and map a button to the application.  This tool will just
turn the screen off, and do nothing else.  Everything else on your WM6
phone will keep working.  If you want the screen back on gain hit the
power on button for your phone, and the phone comes back on.  Even the
data stream keeps running while the screen is blanked with ScreenOff.

3)  Also would like to recommend the WM6 application "LvmTopBat" as it
will keep a thin battery power status bar at the top of every
application.  This is great for watching the battery decrease in power
while running APRSISCE.

Just tried this all on my drive to work today.  The whole trip was
beaconing and it all recorded and was displayed on a APRS.FI web page.
  All while the phone was on battery power only, and the screen was
turned off.  No issues for the 1/2 hour drive.