How do I create an internal IS-server port?
I would like to setup APRSIS32 as the IS-server on my local network with UI-View
and UISS connecting to and passing data through APRSIS32 to the real IS-servers.
I read from here:
http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/is-server-port
To select 'IS-server' from the drop down menu but I dont have that option I
have: KISS, AGW, KWD710(PKT), KWD710(APRS),FTM310v1.3, TEXT, and CWOP.
When I set a TEXT port and try to connect with UI-View I get a error message
saying something like server port was forcefully closed.

Chris,
MM1PTT

--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)" <kj4erj@...> wrote:
>
> I'm really not going to try to write a tutorial on TCP/IP communications
> and the implications and choices of "available' ports for new services.
> I'm hoping someone out there can point you to a suitable tutorial on the
> subject as it involves some semi-advanced networking concepts and has
> nothing particular to to do with APRS nor APRSISCE/32.
>
> That said, 127.0.0.1 is the IP address of your current machine (most of
> the time).
>
> Machines get specific IP addresses for each networking adapter that they
> may have.  Win32 and Windows Mobile behave the same in this respect.
> ipconfig is the command-line command that will show you ALL of the
> network adapters you have a desktop Windows machine.  There is no
> out-of-the-box way of discovering this information for a Windows Mobile
> device, but client's don't need to know this.
>
> Port numbers must be unique and available for any given service on the
> host that's attempting to offer the service.  "Standard" TCP/IP services
> have "well-known" port numbers.  http servers are on port 80.  ftp
> servers are on 21.  AGW's Packet Engine is normally on port 8000.
> APRS-IS filtered ports are typically 14580.  APRS-IS full feed ports are
> typically 10152.
>
> What network adapter and/or port you might want to offer your own
> IS-Server from APRSIS32 is completely up to your whims.  The IP address
> you use on the server side determines what clients will be allowed to
> connect.  0.0.0.0 means the client can be anywhere.  127.0.0.1 means the
> client must be on the same machine. <AdapterIPAddress> means that the
> client must be on that adapter's connected network (or at least LOOK
> like it's on that network - read up on NAT and firewalls and spoofing
> and such).  As for the port, it just has to be a number that's available
> on the server machine.  I use 2998, 2999, 3000, 6568, 6569, 40000, and
> who knows what all else, but what ports you can use depend on what you
> have running on your machine.
>
> And once you have the IS-Server configured, you can point your APRSISCE
> instance to the proper IP and port to connect to it.  BUT  as soon as
> you go mobile, you can't use the local IP address anymore and may not
> even be able to connect in from the Internet (capital I) because of any
> firewalls or NAT routers that your APRSIS32 server is hiding behind.
>
> Oh, and ActiveSync also makes up a private IP network between your
> desktop and Windows Mobile device while they're connected that only
> works when they're connected.
>
> Yep, more than I really want to go into.  If you want to run a local
> APRS-IS server, there's a certain amount of networking saavy that you
> better have to make it work as supporting such efforts is really a
> one-off unique thing for each installation.
>
> Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
>
> PS.  The more versatile the tool, the larger the instruction manual.
> Ever see a cookbook that actually describes how to "fold an egg"?  Nope,
> they all assume you've got some applicable knowledge from somewhere else.
>
> On 12/21/2011 4:02 PM, James Higgins wrote:
> >
> >
> > Lynn
> >
> > I did see TCP/IP as one of the choices on each PC, however, it asked
> > for a IP port?  Is there a procedure written that gives the port
> > numbers and any thing else I will need?
> >
> > Jim KC2SZ
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)
> > <kj4erj@... <mailto:kj4erj@...>> wrote:
> >
> >     http://aprsisce.wikidot.com/doc:development-version
> >
> >     Even that version only supports the Serial Port Profile of
> >     Bluetooth for connections to TNCs, and that only with the
> >     Microsoft Bluetooth stack.  You're not going to be able to lash an
> >     APRSISCE instance to an APRSIS32 instance via Bluetooth via any
> >     connections other than TCP/IP.
> >
> >
> >
> >     Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
> >
> >     On 12/21/2011 3:36 PM, James Higgins wrote:
> >>     Lynn
> >>
> >>     I am running the general release from 2011/08/20 on both PC's.
> >>     I would like to do the direct Bluetooth.
> >>
> >>     How do I download the latest development software?
> >>
> >>     Jim KC2SZ
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)
> >>     <kj4erj@... <mailto:kj4erj@...>> wrote:
> >>
> >>         1) APRSIS32 doesn't support an IS-Server connection via
> >>         BlueTooth - Only
> >>         TCP/IP, but I'm not sure if that's what you're trying to do.
> >>
> >>         2) APRSISCE doesn't support an APRS-IS client connection via
> >>         BlueTooth -
> >>         Only TCP/IP, but I'm not sure if that's what you're trying to do.
> >>
> >>         3) Are you running the latest development on both platforms?
> >>         I think
> >>         the direct Bluetooth support is only in that release and not
> >>         in the
> >>         current general release from 2011/08/20 or so.
> >>
> >>         Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and
> >>         Win32
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>         On 12/21/2011 2:49 PM, James Higgins wrote:
> >>         > I am trying to connect a Bluetooth link between a PocketPC
> >>         Dell X50v
> >>         > running WinCE 5.0 and aprsisce to an EEEPC running XP and
> >>         aprsis32. I
> >>         > am running the latest release of aprsis on both the
> >>         PocketPC and EEEPC
> >>         > however, I don't see any mention of Bluetooth under the Ports
> >>         > configuration menu.
> >>         >
> >>         > The Bluetooth link works great under Active Sync on both
> >>         these PC's.
> >>         >
> >>         > I have been able to connect a TH-72 to the EEEPC running
> >>         apris32 and
> >>         > now I want to pass this IS to the PocketPC via Bluetooth.
> >>         >
> >>         > Would appreciate any help setting up the Bluetooth link.
> >>         >
> >>         > Thanks
> >>         >
> >>         > Jim KC2SZ
> >>         >
> >>         >
> >>         > ------------------------------------
> >>         >
> >>         > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>         >
> >>         >
> >>         >
> >>         >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

I modified the xml file for digipeating.  When I look at the digi log it says
PKT:DigiPeating Not Supported on KWD710(Pkt) Protocol Ports

WinMain:2012-01-01T13:56:41.656 Digipeating KQ5S-8 (WIDE1-1) via(WIDE1-1=WIDE1*)
WinMain:2012-01-01T13:56:41.656
Original(KQ5S-8>ST0P1Y,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1:`lS&l5wK\>"51}=)
WinMain:2012-01-01T13:56:41.656
Transmit(KQ5S-8>ST0P1Y,KQ5S-13*,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1:`lS&l5wK\>"51}=)
WinMain:2012-01-01T13:56:41.656 710 PKT:DigiPeating Not Supported on KWD710(Pkt)
Protocol Ports

Does this mean I have to use the 710 in APRS mode?  I prefer having APRSIS/32 be
in control.

Tom
KQ5S

If the client APRSISCE is in control, usually the Kenwood should be in
PAKET mode.  When in APRS mode, the Kenwood is in control.  I am not
sure what may be happening here.  Maybe Lynn or others may have the
answer.  Are U sure you edited the right XML file?  I have seen mails
about the file extensions not showing and u maybe didn't get right file?

Good Luck.

Chris

"I reject your reality and substitute my own."


On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Tom - KQ5S wrote:

> I modified the xml file for digipeating.  When I look at the digi log
> it says PKT:DigiPeating Not Supported on KWD710(Pkt) Protocol Ports
>
> WinMain:2012-01-01T13:56:41.656 Digipeating KQ5S-8 (WIDE1-1)
> via(WIDE1-1=WIDE1*)
> WinMain:2012-01-01T13:56:41.656
> Original(KQ5S-8>ST0P1Y,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1:`lS&l5wK\>"51}=)
> WinMain:2012-01-01T13:56:41.656
> Transmit(KQ5S-8>ST0P1Y,KQ5S-13*,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1:`lS&l5wK\>"51}=)
> WinMain:2012-01-01T13:56:41.656 710 PKT:DigiPeating Not Supported on
> KWD710(Pkt) Protocol Ports
>
> Does this mean I have to use the 710 in APRS mode?  I prefer having
> APRSIS/32 be in control.
>
> Tom
> KQ5S
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

>>> So what we are REALLY looking for is a Windows
>>> Phone emulator for Android...

> Guess what? APRSISCE for Windows Mobile is the
> SAME screen as the main window of APRSIS32 on
> a Windows Desktop.   It's a bit tight, but it's
> (almost) all there!

Rather than cramming infinite map detail, consider emulating the D72 display. 
With a 9 screen wide raster of data on each station and 100 station/objects
deep, it is trivial to navigate.  Especially after doing either a time, distance
or callsign sort.

Navigating in a 9-by-N screen space where the data is presented in large font
and easy to read is trivial compared to zooming around on a stamp sized map.

I know it is retro, but it works, gives rapid access to good data and is easy to
read with old eyes and navigate with thumbs.

Bob, WB4APR

The KWD710(Pkt) mode keeps the D710 in TNC mode.  In this mode, the
UNPROTO xxxx VIA yyyy doesn't support transmitting used path elements
and therefore is unusable as a digipeater.

The easiest way to use a D710 as a digipeater is to put it into KISS
mode and let APRSISCE/32 take full control.  The normal KISS type port
should do that, provided that you have the D710's TNC in Packet mode
before starting APRSISCE/32 or enabling the port.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 1/1/2012 9:02 AM, Tom - KQ5S wrote:
> I modified the xml file for digipeating.  When I look at the digi log it says
PKT:DigiPeating Not Supported on KWD710(Pkt) Protocol Ports
>
> WinMain:2012-01-01T13:56:41.656 Digipeating KQ5S-8 (WIDE1-1)
via(WIDE1-1=WIDE1*)
> WinMain:2012-01-01T13:56:41.656
Original(KQ5S-8>ST0P1Y,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1:`lS&l5wK\>"51}=)
> WinMain:2012-01-01T13:56:41.656
Transmit(KQ5S-8>ST0P1Y,KQ5S-13*,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1:`lS&l5wK\>"51}=)
> WinMain:2012-01-01T13:56:41.656 710 PKT:DigiPeating Not Supported on
KWD710(Pkt) Protocol Ports
>
> Does this mean I have to use the 710 in APRS mode?  I prefer having APRSIS/32
be in control.
>
> Tom
> KQ5S
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

Station n0eq-2 = APRSis running on a Windows XP machine,
MFJ 1270 TNC, 5w HT.
RF only, internet connection is NOT enabled or desired.

Display shows ONLY other RF based stations
such as n0eq-7 (RF based).
Does NOT show any TCP based stations such as
n0eq-10 nor any other TCP based stations (mine or anyone's).

If I ?PING? a TCP based station, that station then
returns it's posit and is displayed appropriately.

Is this normal? Or should I be able to see TCP based
stations that are being broadcast over RF via one of
several nearby TCP digis?



tnx -

Craig 'Lumpy' Lemke
Phoenix AZ USA

www.n0eq.com

a) Digis don't transmit TCP stations, they only repeat what they've
heard, and they won't ever hear an RF station unless it's wrapped in a
3rd party wrapper..

b) IGates may or may not (normally not) gate APRS-IS-only (TCP) stations
to their local RF.

In your configuration, if you don't hear it on RF, you won't see it on
the screen. And I suspect you're not hearing the "missing" stations via
RF because it's really uncommon for IGates to gate -IS-only stations.

However, when a message is gated from the APRS-IS to an RF-based station
(like your's), a "courtesy posit" usually follows it showing where the
originating station is..  In your case, I suspect an ack or response to
your message brought along one of these posits causing it to show up on
your map.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for WIndows Mobile and Win32

On 1/1/2012 10:50 PM, n0eq_qrp wrote:
> Station n0eq-2 = APRSis running on a Windows XP machine,
> MFJ 1270 TNC, 5w HT.
> RF only, internet connection is NOT enabled or desired.
>
> Display shows ONLY other RF based stations
> such as n0eq-7 (RF based).
> Does NOT show any TCP based stations such as
> n0eq-10 nor any other TCP based stations (mine or anyone's).
>
> If I ?PING? a TCP based station, that station then
> returns it's posit and is displayed appropriately.
>
> Is this normal? Or should I be able to see TCP based
> stations that are being broadcast over RF via one of
> several nearby TCP digis?
>
>
>
> tnx -
>
> Craig 'Lumpy' Lemke
> Phoenix AZ USA
>
> www.n0eq.com
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

<!--RFPort[2]-->
<RFPort Name="localhost">
<Protocol>IS-Server</Protocol>
<Device>@localhost:4000</Device>
<RfBaud>-1</RfBaud>
<!--OpenCmd-->
<!--CloseCmd-->
<QuietTime>0</QuietTime>
<Enabled>1</Enabled>
<XmitEnabled>1</XmitEnabled>
<ProvidesNMEA>0</ProvidesNMEA>
<RFtoISEnabled>1</RFtoISEnabled>
<IStoRFEnabled>1</IStoRFEnabled>
<MyCallNot3rd>0</MyCallNot3rd>
<BeaconingEnabled>1</BeaconingEnabled>
<BeaconPath></BeaconPath>
<BulletinObjectEnabled>1</BulletinObjectEnabled>
<MessagesEnabled>1</MessagesEnabled>
<MessagePath></MessagePath>
<TelemetryEnabled>0</TelemetryEnabled>
<TelemetryPath></TelemetryPath>
<!--DigiXform-->
</RFPort>
<!--RFPort[2]-->

<DigiXform>WIDE1-1=WIDE1*</DigiXform>

Above is XML file Below is DigiNot Trace Log
WinMain:2012-01-02T20:03:49.453 Unused Hop(GATE) Has No DigiXform in
(VE7AV-4>APND14,GATE,WIDE2-1:!R3;KL/Ix]& sT)
WinMain:2012-01-02T20:03:49.484 Unused Hop(GATE) Has No DigiXform in
(VE7AV-4>APND14,GATE,WIDE2-1:!R3;KL/Ix]& sT)
WinMain:2012-01-02T20:18:50.000 Unused Hop(GATE) Has No DigiXform in
(VE7AV-4>APND14,GATE,WIDE2-1:!R3;KL/Ix]& sT)
WinMain:2012-01-02T20:18:50.000 Unused Hop(GATE) Has No DigiXform in
(VE7AV-4>APND14,GATE,WIDE2-1:!R3;KL/Ix]& sT)
WinMain:2012-01-02T20:19:16.578 Empty Path (2 Hops) in (KB7DZR-15>APWW08:>30M
IGate, http://www.kb7dzr.com)
WinMain:2012-01-02T20:19:16.593 Empty Path (2 Hops) in (KB7DZR-15>APWW08:>30M
IGate, http://www.kb7dzr.com)
WinMain:2012-01-02T20:32:06.000 Unused Hop(ECHO) Has No DigiXform in
(W6OTH>APZ114,ECHO,GATE,WIDE2-2:>Tracy in Milpitas CA - w6oth@...)
WinMain:2012-01-02T20:37:19.468 Empty Path (2 Hops) in
(KB7DZR-15>APWW08:=/7S,:0oZz& sT30M IGate - Joseph, OR. USA)
WinMain:2012-01-02T20:37:19.468 Empty Path (2 Hops) in
(KB7DZR-15>APWW08:=/7S,:0oZz& sT30M IGate - Joseph, OR. USA)
WinMain:2012-01-02T20:45:06.390 Unused Hop(ECHO) Has No DigiXform in
(W6OTH>APZ114,ECHO,GATE,WIDE2-2:>Tracy in Milpitas CA - w6oth@...)
WinMain:2012-01-02T20:48:49.968 Unused Hop(GATE) Has No DigiXform in
(VE7AV-4>APND14,GATE,WIDE2-1:!R3;KL/Ix]& sT)
WinMain:2012-01-02T20:48:49.968 Unused Hop(GATE) Has No DigiXform in
(VE7AV-4>APND14,GATE,WIDE2-1:!R3;KL/Ix]& sT)

What am I missing to get it to Digi??
               Thanks Ken/w7kj

Just managed to beacon and got digipeated / iGated via ISS using 500mW.
This was using the standard rubber ducky.

2012-01-02 20:58:49 UTC: VK2JNG-7>S0R4Y2,RS0ISS-4*,qAR,VK3UKF:`O7?l
<0x1d>[/>">Y}VIA ISS 500mW=

Greetings,
Gerard
VK2JNG

 

<!--RFPort[2]-->
<RFPort Name="localhost">
<Protocol>IS-Server</Protocol>
<Device>@localhost:4000</Device>
<RfBaud>-1</RfBaud>
<!--OpenCmd-->
<!--CloseCmd-->
<QuietTime>0</QuietTime>
<Enabled>1</Enabled>
<XmitEnabled>1</XmitEnabled>
<ProvidesNMEA>0</ProvidesNMEA>
<RFtoISEnabled>1</RFtoISEnabled>
<IStoRFEnabled>1</IStoRFEnabled>
<MyCallNot3rd>0</MyCallNot3rd>
<BeaconingEnabled>1</BeaconingEnabled>
<BeaconPath></BeaconPath>
<BulletinObjectEnabled>1</BulletinObjectEnabled>
<MessagesEnabled>1</MessagesEnabled>
<MessagePath></MessagePath>
<TelemetryEnabled>0</TelemetryEnabled>
<TelemetryPath></TelemetryPath>
<!--DigiXform-->
</RFPort>
<!--RFPort[2]-->

<DigiXform>WIDE1-1=WIDE1*</DigiXform>

Above is XML file Below is DigiNot Trace Log
WinMain:2012-01-02T20:03:49.453 Unused Hop(GATE) Has No DigiXform in (VE7AV-4>APND14,GATE,WIDE2-1:!R3;KL/Ix]& sT)
WinMain:2012-01-02T20:03:49.484 Unused Hop(GATE) Has No DigiXform in (VE7AV-4>APND14,GATE,WIDE2-1:!R3;KL/Ix]& sT)
WinMain:2012-01-02T20:18:50.000 Unused Hop(GATE) Has No DigiXform in (VE7AV-4>APND14,GATE,WIDE2-1:!R3;KL/Ix]& sT)
WinMain:2012-01-02T20:18:50.000 Unused Hop(GATE) Has No DigiXform in (VE7AV-4>APND14,GATE,WIDE2-1:!R3;KL/Ix]& sT)
WinMain:2012-01-02T20:19:16.578 Empty Path (2 Hops) in (KB7DZR-15>APWW08:>30M IGate, http://www.kb7dzr.com)
WinMain:2012-01-02T20:19:16.593 Empty Path (2 Hops) in (KB7DZR-15>APWW08:>30M IGate, http://www.kb7dzr.com)
WinMain:2012-01-02T20:32:06.000 Unused Hop(ECHO) Has No DigiXform in (W6OTH>APZ114,ECHO,GATE,WIDE2-2:>Tracy in Milpitas CA - w6oth@...)
WinMain:2012-01-02T20:37:19.468 Empty Path (2 Hops) in (KB7DZR-15>APWW08:=/7S,:0oZz& sT30M IGate - Joseph, OR. USA)
WinMain:2012-01-02T20:37:19.468 Empty Path (2 Hops) in (KB7DZR-15>APWW08:=/7S,:0oZz& sT30M IGate - Joseph, OR. USA)
WinMain:2012-01-02T20:45:06.390 Unused Hop(ECHO) Has No DigiXform in (W6OTH>APZ114,ECHO,GATE,WIDE2-2:>Tracy in Milpitas CA - w6oth@...)
WinMain:2012-01-02T20:48:49.968 Unused Hop(GATE) Has No DigiXform in (VE7AV-4>APND14,GATE,WIDE2-1:!R3;KL/Ix]& sT)
WinMain:2012-01-02T20:48:49.968 Unused Hop(GATE) Has No DigiXform in (VE7AV-4>APND14,GATE,WIDE2-1:!R3;KL/Ix]& sT)

What am I missing to get it to Digi??
Thanks Ken/w7kj

--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "jandgandjochem" <vk2jng@...> wrote:
>
> Just managed to beacon and got digipeated / iGated via ISS using 500mW.
> This was using the standard rubber ducky.
>
> 2012-01-02 20:58:49 UTC: VK2JNG-7>S0R4Y2,RS0ISS-4*,qAR,VK3UKF:`O7?l
<0x1d>[/>">Y}VIA ISS 500mW=
>
> Greetings,
> Gerard
> VK2JNG
>

Hi Gerard
Wow thats impressive, i have never been able to digi through the iss without at
least a 3db antenna and 5 watts... You must have been in the right place at the
right time!
Regards
Murray
VK2UMZ

----- Original Message -----

From: muzza9500

To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 5:24 PM

Subject: [aprsisce] Re: In the right place at the right time...

 

--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "jandgandjochem" <vk2jng@...> wrote:
>
> Just managed to beacon and got digipeated / iGated via ISS using 500mW.
> This was using the standard rubber ducky.
>
> 2012-01-02 20:58:49 UTC: VK2JNG-7>S0R4Y2,RS0ISS-4*,qAR,VK3UKF:`O7?l <0x1d>[/>">Y}VIA ISS 500mW=
>
> Greetings,
> Gerard
> VK2JNG
>

Hi Gerard
Wow thats impressive, i have never been able to digi through the iss without at least a 3db antenna and 5 watts... You must have been in the right place at the right time!
Regards
Murray
VK2UMZ

On 1/2/2012 3:58 PM, annie2ka wrote:
>
> <DigiXform>WIDE1-1=WIDE1*</DigiXform>

That configuration will work for any RF-received packet whose first
unused path component is WIDE1-1.

> Above is XML file Below is DigiNot Trace Log
> WinMain:2012-01-02T20:03:49.453 Unused Hop(GATE) Has No DigiXform in
(VE7AV-4>APND14,GATE,WIDE2-1:!R3;KL/Ix]&  sT)
> WinMain:2012-01-02T20:03:49.484 Unused Hop(GATE) Has No DigiXform in
(VE7AV-4>APND14,GATE,WIDE2-1:!R3;KL/Ix]&  sT)
> WinMain:2012-01-02T20:18:50.000 Unused Hop(GATE) Has No DigiXform in
(VE7AV-4>APND14,GATE,WIDE2-1:!R3;KL/Ix]&  sT)
> WinMain:2012-01-02T20:18:50.000 Unused Hop(GATE) Has No DigiXform in
(VE7AV-4>APND14,GATE,WIDE2-1:!R3;KL/Ix]&  sT)

The first unused path component in each of those packets is "GATE" which
a) is not a standard digipeater alias and b) does not have a <DigiXform>
rule in your configuration.  NOT digipeated.

> WinMain:2012-01-02T20:19:16.578 Empty Path (2 Hops) in (KB7DZR-15>APWW08:>30M
IGate, http://www.kb7dzr.com)
> WinMain:2012-01-02T20:19:16.593 Empty Path (2 Hops) in (KB7DZR-15>APWW08:>30M
IGate, http://www.kb7dzr.com)

Those two packets have empty paths therefore there is NO unused path
component and NO digipeater will act on them.

> WinMain:2012-01-02T20:32:06.000 Unused Hop(ECHO) Has No DigiXform in
(W6OTH>APZ114,ECHO,GATE,WIDE2-2:>Tracy in Milpitas CA - w6oth@...)

ECHO is the first unused path component which is a standard alias for HF
digipeating and is not recommended for general use unless you're
tracking mobile on HF and may need the digipeat assistance.  You have no
rule configured for responding to the ECHO alias.

> WinMain:2012-01-02T20:37:19.468 Empty Path (2 Hops) in
(KB7DZR-15>APWW08:=/7S,:0oZz&  sT30M IGate - Joseph, OR. USA)
> WinMain:2012-01-02T20:37:19.468 Empty Path (2 Hops) in
(KB7DZR-15>APWW08:=/7S,:0oZz&  sT30M IGate - Joseph, OR. USA)
> WinMain:2012-01-02T20:45:06.390 Unused Hop(ECHO) Has No DigiXform in
(W6OTH>APZ114,ECHO,GATE,WIDE2-2:>Tracy in Milpitas CA - w6oth@...)
> WinMain:2012-01-02T20:48:49.968 Unused Hop(GATE) Has No DigiXform in
(VE7AV-4>APND14,GATE,WIDE2-1:!R3;KL/Ix]&  sT)
> WinMain:2012-01-02T20:48:49.968 Unused Hop(GATE) Has No DigiXform in
(VE7AV-4>APND14,GATE,WIDE2-1:!R3;KL/Ix]&  sT)

Ditto everything above.

> What am I missing to get it to Digi??

You said that those lines came from the Digi(NOT) trace log.  Is there
anything in your enabled Digi trace log?  That's where you'll see the
ones that fired your <DigiXform> rule.  You'd also see digipeated
packets in your Transmit event log being the packets you transmit whose
source call is not your own.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

Congratulations!  500mW to space and back.  Cool.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 1/2/2012 4:18 PM, jandgandjochem wrote:
> Just managed to beacon and got digipeated / iGated via ISS using 500mW.
> This was using the standard rubber ducky.
>
> 2012-01-02 20:58:49 UTC:
VK2JNG-7>S0R4Y2,RS0ISS-4*,qAR,VK3UKF:`O7?l<0x1d>[/>">Y}VIA ISS 500mW=
>
> Greetings,
> Gerard
> VK2JNG

>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

Going to push my luck further and trying 50mW when the next perfect pass is
happening.

FWIW: Have tried tens of times on 500mW but never got into ISS / or did not get
the reply but this morning I tried holding the HT with the rubber ducky antenna
pointing down to earth approx 45deg in front of me and facing the upcoming pass
of ISS.

Great fun,
Gerard
VK2JNG

--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)" <kj4erj@...> wrote:
>
> Congratulations!  500mW to space and back.  Cool.
>
> Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
>
> On 1/2/2012 4:18 PM, jandgandjochem wrote:
> > Just managed to beacon and got digipeated / iGated via ISS using 500mW.
> > This was using the standard rubber ducky.
> >
> > 2012-01-02 20:58:49 UTC:
VK2JNG-7>S0R4Y2,RS0ISS-4*,qAR,VK3UKF:`O7?l<0x1d>[/>">Y}VIA ISS 500mW=
> >
> > Greetings,
> > Gerard
> > VK2JNG
>
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

At 07:09 PM 1/2/2012, Steve Daniels wrote:

>I use 500MW but I figure it's cold in space.

500 megawatts (MW) or 500 milliwatts (mW)?

<grin>

Bob...

Trace Digi
Trace Digi
WinMain:2012-01-03T00:40:17.140 Digipeating W4TTU-1 (WIDE2-2)
via(WIDE2-2=WIDE2-1)
WinMain:2012-01-03T00:40:17.140
Original(W4TTU-1>BEACON,WIDE2-2:!3902.63N/07722.48W&/ 30M/2M Sugarland Run VA
iGate)
WinMain:2012-01-03T00:40:17.140
Transmit(W4TTU-1>BEACON,W7KJ-15*,WIDE2-1:!3902.63N/07722.48W&/ 30M/2M Sugarland
Run VA iGate)
DIGINOT

WinMain:2012-01-03T00:18:51.593 Unused Hop(GATE) Has No DigiXform in
(VE7AV-4>APND14,GATE,WIDE2-1:!R3;KL/Ix]& sT)
WinMain:2012-01-03T00:18:51.593 Unused Hop(GATE) Has No DigiXform in
(VE7AV-4>APND14,GATE,WIDE2-1:!R3;KL/Ix]& sT)
WinMain:2012-01-03T00:25:22.515 Unused Hop(ECHO) Has No DigiXform in
(W6OTH>APZ114,ECHO,GATE,WIDE2-2:=3727.43N/12153.73W-PHG3360 KAM, FT840. de Tracy
overlooking silicon Valley - 30m HF)
WinMain:2012-01-03T00:25:22.515 Unused Hop(ECHO) Has No DigiXform in
(W6OTH>APZ114,ECHO,GATE,WIDE2-2:=3727.43N/12153.73W-PHG3360 KAM, FT840. de Tracy
overlooking silicon Valley - 30m HF)
WinMain:2012-01-03T00:26:21.578 Unused Hop(ECHO) Has No DigiXform in
(W6OTH>APZ114,ECHO,GATE,WIDE2-2:>Tracy in Milpitas CA - w6oth@...)
WinMain:2012-01-03T00:26:21.578 Unused Hop(ECHO) Has No DigiXform in
(W6OTH>APZ114,ECHO,GATE,WIDE2-2:>Tracy in Milpitas CA - w6oth@...)
WinMain:2012-01-03T00:27:13.781 Unused Hop(ECHO) Has No DigiXform in
(K4AG>APU25N,ECHO,GATE:=2539.11N/08021.53W&So Fla Gateway)
WinMain:2012-01-03T00:29:26.906 Unused Hop(GATE) Has No DigiXform in
(KB2ETO>APW284,GATE,WIDE:=4230.70N/07619.40WNPHG2140/New York, Tompkins, Dryden,
WinAPRS 2.8.4 -284-<630>)
WinMain:2012-01-03T00:29:26.921 Unused Hop(GATE) Has No DigiXform in
(KB2ETO>APW284,GATE,WIDE:=4230.70N/07619.40WNPHG2140/New York, Tompkins, Dryden,
WinAPRS 2.8.4 -284-<630>)
WinMain:2012-01-03T00:32:47.609 Unused Hop(WIDE3-3) Has No DigiXform in
(K1CKK-1>APWW08,WIDE3-3:>030032zAPRSIS32)
WinMain:2012-01-03T00:33:11.750 Unused Hop(ECHO) Has No DigiXform in
(KB2ETO>APW284,ECHO,GATE,WIDE:=4230.70N/07619.40WNPHG2140/New York, Tompkins,
Dryden, WinAPRS 2.8.4 -284-<630>)
WinMain:2012-01-03T00:37:28.375 Unused Hop(WIDE3-3) Has No DigiXform in
(K1CKK-1>APWW08,WIDE3-3:=4145.06N/07003.92W-VHF APRS Brewster,Ma)
WinMain:2012-01-03T00:40:17.140 Already Digied
(W4TTU-1>BEACON,WIDE2-2:!3902.63N/07722.48W&/ 30M/2M Sugarland Run VA iGate)
WinMain:2012-01-03T00:52:23.531 Unused Hop(ECHO) Has No DigiXform in
(W6OTH>APZ114,ECHO,GATE,WIDE2-2:>Tracy in Milpitas CA - w6oth@...)
WinMain:2012-01-03T00:52:23.531 Unused Hop(ECHO) Has No DigiXform in
(W6OTH>APZ114,ECHO,GATE,WIDE2-2:>Tracy in Milpitas CA - w6oth@...)
WinMain:2012-01-03T00:56:32.406 Empty Path (2 Hops) in (N2TIF>APU16N::K1CKK   
:?APRST)
WinMain:2012-01-03T00:56:32.421 Empty Path (2 Hops) in (N2TIF>APU16N::K1CKK   
:?APRST)
WinMain:2012-01-03T00:57:00.390 Unused Hop(ECHO) Has No DigiXform in
(K4AG>ID,ECHO,GATE:K4AG/R ECHO/D GATE/G K4AG-1/B)
WinMain:2012-01-03T00:57:00.406 Unused Hop(ECHO) Has No DigiXform in
(K4AG>ID,ECHO,GATE:K4AG/R ECHO/D GATE/G K4AG-1/B)
WinMain:2012-01-03T00:57:30.718 Unused Hop(WIDE3-3) Has No DigiXform in
(K1CKK-1>APWW08,WIDE3-3:=4145.06N/07003.92W-VHF APRS Brewster,Ma)
WinMain:2012-01-03T01:05:24.500 Unused Hop(ECHO) Has No DigiXform in
(W6OTH>APZ114,ECHO,GATE,WIDE2-2:>Tracy in Milpitas CA - w6oth@...)
WinMain:2012-01-03T01:05:24.500 Unused Hop(ECHO) Has No DigiXform in
(W6OTH>APZ114,ECHO,GATE,WIDE2-2:>Tracy in Milpitas CA - w6oth@...)
WinMain:2012-01-03T01:18:24.718 Unused Hop(ECHO) Has No DigiXform in
(W6OTH>APZ114,ECHO,GATE,WIDE2-2:>Tracy in Milpitas CA - w6oth@...)
WinMain:2012-01-03T01:18:24.718 Unused Hop(ECHO) Has No DigiXform in
(W6OTH>APZ114,ECHO,GATE,WIDE2-2:>Tracy in Milpitas CA - w6oth@...)
WinMain:2012-01-03T01:22:26.656 Unused Hop(ECHO) Has No DigiXform in
(W6OTH>APZ114,ECHO,GATE,WIDE2-2:=3727.43N/12153.73W-PHG3360 KAM, FT840. de Tracy
overlooking silicon Valley - 30m HF)
WinMain:2012-01-03T01:27:36.687 Unused Hop(ECHO) Has No DigiXform in
(K4AG>APU25N,ECHO,GATE:>030026zSo Fla Gateway)
WinMain:2012-01-03T01:29:49.421 Unused Hop(ECHO) Has No DigiXform in
(K4AG>ID,ECHO,GATE:K4AG/R ECHO/D GATE/G K4AG-1/B)
WinMain:2012-01-03T01:29:49.453 Unused Hop(ECHO) Has No DigiXform in
(K4AG>ID,ECHO,GATE:K4AG/R ECHO/D GATE/G K4AG-1/B)
WinMain:2012-01-03T01:31:25.421 Unused Hop(ECHO) Has No DigiXform in
(W6OTH>APZ114,ECHO,GATE,WIDE2-2:>Tracy in Milpitas CA - w6oth@...)
WinMain:2012-01-03T01:31:25.421 Unused Hop(ECHO) Has No DigiXform in
(W6OTH>APZ114,ECHO,GATE,WIDE2-2:>Tracy in Milpitas CA - w6oth@...)
WinMain:2012-01-03T01:32:49.156 All Hops Used (3/3) in
(K1CKK-1>APWW08,K4AG*:>030132zAPRSIS32)
WinMain:2012-01-03T01:34:19.593 Unused Hop(GATE) Has No DigiXform in
(KB2ETO>APW284,GATE,WIDE:=4230.70N/07619.40WNPHG2140/New York, Tompkins, Dryden,
WinAPRS 2.8.4 -284-<630>)
WinMain:2012-01-03T01:34:19.593 Unused Hop(GATE) Has No DigiXform in
(KB2ETO>APW284,GATE,WIDE:=4230.70N/07619.40WNPHG2140/New York, Tompkins, Dryden,
WinAPRS 2.8.4 -284-<630>)
WinMain:2012-01-03T01:41:00.046 Unused Hop(GATE) Has No DigiXform in
(K5RAV>ID,GATE,WIDE:K5RAV/R ECHO/D GATE/G K5RAV-1/B)

TRANSMIT
12:21.109 Transmit(IS)
W7KJ-15>APWW08,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1:<IGATE,MSG_CNT=0,LOC_CNT=0,DIR_CNT=0,RF_CNT=0
2012-01-03T00:12:23.109 Transmit(IS+RF)
W7KJ-15>APWW08,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1:=4713.43N/12236.82W&FOX ISLAND, WA.
2012-01-03T00:12:23.109 Transmit(INT)
W7KJ-15>APWW08,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1:=4713.43N/12236.82W&FOX ISLAND, WA.
2012-01-03T00:12:41.500 Transmit(INT)
SEWFFA>APRS,qAO,WE7U-WX:;SEWFFAa00*051200z4721.22N\12312.34WwNWS_WATCH,FLASH_FLO\
OD,WAC45 !w-N!{4C002
2012-01-03T00:14:21.109 Transmit(INT)
W7KJ-15>APWW08,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1:T#465,100,048,078,500,000,10100000
2012-01-03T00:19:21.125 Transmit(IS)
W7KJ-15>APWW08,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1:<IGATE,MSG_CNT=0,LOC_CNT=1,DIR_CNT=1,RF_CNT=1,DX=\
1*VE7AV-4(456mi@358°)
2012-01-03T00:29:21.140 Transmit(INT) W7KJ-15>APWW08,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1::W7KJ-15 
:PARM.Battery,Charging/AC,GPS+Sat,A4,A5,A/C,Charging,GPS,B4,B5,B6,B7,B8
2012-01-03T00:29:21.140 Transmit(INT) W7KJ-15>APWW08,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1::W7KJ-15 
:UNIT.Percent,Charge/On/Off,Sats/On/Off,N/A,N/A,On,Yes,On,N/A,N/A,N/A,N/A,N/A
2012-01-03T00:29:21.140 Transmit(INT) W7KJ-15>APWW08,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1::W7KJ-15 
:EQNS.0,1,0,0,1,0,0,1,0,0,1,0,0,1,0
2012-01-03T00:29:21.140 Transmit(INT) W7KJ-15>APWW08,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1::W7KJ-15 
:BITS.11111111,Battery State Tracking
2012-01-03T00:29:21.140 Transmit(INT)
W7KJ-15>APWW08,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1:T#466,100,048,083,500,000,10100000
2012-01-03T00:40:17.140 Transmit(RF)
W4TTU-1>BEACON,W7KJ-15*,WIDE2-1:!3902.63N/07722.48W&/ 30M/2M Sugarland Run VA
iGate
2012-01-03T00:44:21.187 Transmit(INT)
W7KJ-15>APWW08,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1:T#467,100,048,088,500,000,10100000
2012-01-03T00:59:21.250 Transmit(INT)
W7KJ-15>APWW08,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1:T#468,100,048,073,500,000,10100000
2012-01-03T01:12:23.484 Transmit(IS+RF)
W7KJ-15>APWW08,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1:=4713.42N/12236.82W&FOX ISLAND, WA.
2012-01-03T01:12:23.484 Transmit(INT)
W7KJ-15>APWW08,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1:=4713.42N/12236.82W&FOX ISLAND, WA.
2012-01-03T01:14:21.281 Transmit(INT)
W7KJ-15>APWW08,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1:T#469,100,048,083,500,000,10100000
2012-01-03T01:19:21.296 Transmit(IS)
W7KJ-15>APWW08,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1:<IGATE,MSG_CNT=0,LOC_CNT=3,DIR_CNT=3,RF_CNT=3
2012-01-03T01:29:21.328 Transmit(INT)
W7KJ-15>APWW08,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1:T#470,100,048,078,500,000,10100000
2012-01-03T01:44:21.362 Transmit(INT)
W7KJ-15>APWW08,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1:T#471,100,048,088,500,000,10100000

    Looks to Digi when any hops left except for GATE and ECHO, how do
you configure for those two?
  Thanks for help,explanations.
             Ken/w7kj

--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)" <kj4erj@...> wrote:
>
> > You said that those lines came from the Digi(NOT) trace log.  Is there
> anything in your enabled Digi trace log?  That's where you'll see the
> ones that fired your <DigiXform> rule.  You'd also see digipeated
> packets in your Transmit event log being the packets you transmit whose
> source call is not your own.
>
> Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
>

>     Looks to Digi when any hops left except for GATE and ECHO, how do
> you configure for those two?

First, you need to ask yourself if you SHOULD be digipeating on WIDE2-1
or WIDE2-2 and/or GATE and/or ECHO.  In particular, I'd think that GATE
is not a request for a digipeat, but something else.

But, if you insist on doing so, the general form of a <DigiXform> is:

<DigiXform>unused=retransmit</DigiXform>

So, for GATE and ECHO it would be:

<DigiXform>GATE=GATE*</DigiXform>
<DigiXform>ECHO=ECHO*</DigiXform>

VE7AV-4>APND14,GATE,WIDE2-1:!R3;KL/Ix]&  sT

will retransmit as

VE7AV-4>APND14,GATE*,WIDE2-1:!R3;KL/Ix]&  sT

and

W6OTH>APZ114,ECHO,GATE,WIDE2-2:=3727.43N/12153.73W-....

will become

W6OTH>APZ114,ECHO*,GATE,WIDE2-2:=3727.43N/12153.73W-....


Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 1/2/2012 9:00 PM, annie2ka wrote:
> Trace Digi
> Trace Digi
> WinMain:2012-01-03T00:40:17.140 Digipeating W4TTU-1 (WIDE2-2)
via(WIDE2-2=WIDE2-1)
> WinMain:2012-01-03T00:40:17.140
Original(W4TTU-1>BEACON,WIDE2-2:!3902.63N/07722.48W&/ 30M/2M Sugarland Run VA
iGate)
> WinMain:2012-01-03T00:40:17.140
Transmit(W4TTU-1>BEACON,W7KJ-15*,WIDE2-1:!3902.63N/07722.48W&/ 30M/2M Sugarland
Run VA iGate)
> DIGINOT
>
> WinMain:2012-01-03T00:18:51.593 Unused Hop(GATE) Has No DigiXform in
(VE7AV-4>APND14,GATE,WIDE2-1:!R3;KL/Ix]&  sT)
> WinMain:2012-01-03T00:18:51.593 Unused Hop(GATE) Has No DigiXform in
(VE7AV-4>APND14,GATE,WIDE2-1:!R3;KL/Ix]&  sT)
> WinMain:2012-01-03T00:25:22.515 Unused Hop(ECHO) Has No DigiXform in
(W6OTH>APZ114,ECHO,GATE,WIDE2-2:=3727.43N/12153.73W-PHG3360 KAM, FT840. de Tracy
overlooking silicon Valley - 30m HF)
> WinMain:2012-01-03T00:25:22.515 Unused Hop(ECHO) Has No DigiXform in
(W6OTH>APZ114,ECHO,GATE,WIDE2-2:=3727.43N/12153.73W-PHG3360 KAM, FT840. de Tracy
overlooking silicon Valley - 30m HF)
> WinMain:2012-01-03T00:26:21.578 Unused Hop(ECHO) Has No DigiXform in
(W6OTH>APZ114,ECHO,GATE,WIDE2-2:>Tracy in Milpitas CA - w6oth@...)
> WinMain:2012-01-03T00:26:21.578 Unused Hop(ECHO) Has No DigiXform in
(W6OTH>APZ114,ECHO,GATE,WIDE2-2:>Tracy in Milpitas CA - w6oth@...)
> WinMain:2012-01-03T00:27:13.781 Unused Hop(ECHO) Has No DigiXform in
(K4AG>APU25N,ECHO,GATE:=2539.11N/08021.53W&So Fla Gateway)
> WinMain:2012-01-03T00:29:26.906 Unused Hop(GATE) Has No DigiXform in
(KB2ETO>APW284,GATE,WIDE:=4230.70N/07619.40WNPHG2140/New York, Tompkins, Dryden,
WinAPRS 2.8.4 -284-<630>)
> WinMain:2012-01-03T00:29:26.921 Unused Hop(GATE) Has No DigiXform in
(KB2ETO>APW284,GATE,WIDE:=4230.70N/07619.40WNPHG2140/New York, Tompkins, Dryden,
WinAPRS 2.8.4 -284-<630>)
> WinMain:2012-01-03T00:32:47.609 Unused Hop(WIDE3-3) Has No DigiXform in
(K1CKK-1>APWW08,WIDE3-3:>030032zAPRSIS32)
> WinMain:2012-01-03T00:33:11.750 Unused Hop(ECHO) Has No DigiXform in
(KB2ETO>APW284,ECHO,GATE,WIDE:=4230.70N/07619.40WNPHG2140/New York, Tompkins,
Dryden, WinAPRS 2.8.4 -284-<630>)
> WinMain:2012-01-03T00:37:28.375 Unused Hop(WIDE3-3) Has No DigiXform in
(K1CKK-1>APWW08,WIDE3-3:=4145.06N/07003.92W-VHF APRS Brewster,Ma)
> WinMain:2012-01-03T00:40:17.140 Already Digied
(W4TTU-1>BEACON,WIDE2-2:!3902.63N/07722.48W&/ 30M/2M Sugarland Run VA iGate)
> WinMain:2012-01-03T00:52:23.531 Unused Hop(ECHO) Has No DigiXform in
(W6OTH>APZ114,ECHO,GATE,WIDE2-2:>Tracy in Milpitas CA - w6oth@...)
> WinMain:2012-01-03T00:52:23.531 Unused Hop(ECHO) Has No DigiXform in
(W6OTH>APZ114,ECHO,GATE,WIDE2-2:>Tracy in Milpitas CA - w6oth@...)
> WinMain:2012-01-03T00:56:32.406 Empty Path (2 Hops) in (N2TIF>APU16N::K1CKK   
:?APRST)
> WinMain:2012-01-03T00:56:32.421 Empty Path (2 Hops) in (N2TIF>APU16N::K1CKK   
:?APRST)
> WinMain:2012-01-03T00:57:00.390 Unused Hop(ECHO) Has No DigiXform in
(K4AG>ID,ECHO,GATE:K4AG/R ECHO/D GATE/G K4AG-1/B)
> WinMain:2012-01-03T00:57:00.406 Unused Hop(ECHO) Has No DigiXform in
(K4AG>ID,ECHO,GATE:K4AG/R ECHO/D GATE/G K4AG-1/B)
> WinMain:2012-01-03T00:57:30.718 Unused Hop(WIDE3-3) Has No DigiXform in
(K1CKK-1>APWW08,WIDE3-3:=4145.06N/07003.92W-VHF APRS Brewster,Ma)
> WinMain:2012-01-03T01:05:24.500 Unused Hop(ECHO) Has No DigiXform in
(W6OTH>APZ114,ECHO,GATE,WIDE2-2:>Tracy in Milpitas CA - w6oth@...)
> WinMain:2012-01-03T01:05:24.500 Unused Hop(ECHO) Has No DigiXform in
(W6OTH>APZ114,ECHO,GATE,WIDE2-2:>Tracy in Milpitas CA - w6oth@...)
> WinMain:2012-01-03T01:18:24.718 Unused Hop(ECHO) Has No DigiXform in
(W6OTH>APZ114,ECHO,GATE,WIDE2-2:>Tracy in Milpitas CA - w6oth@...)
> WinMain:2012-01-03T01:18:24.718 Unused Hop(ECHO) Has No DigiXform in
(W6OTH>APZ114,ECHO,GATE,WIDE2-2:>Tracy in Milpitas CA - w6oth@...)
> WinMain:2012-01-03T01:22:26.656 Unused Hop(ECHO) Has No DigiXform in
(W6OTH>APZ114,ECHO,GATE,WIDE2-2:=3727.43N/12153.73W-PHG3360 KAM, FT840. de Tracy
overlooking silicon Valley - 30m HF)
> WinMain:2012-01-03T01:27:36.687 Unused Hop(ECHO) Has No DigiXform in
(K4AG>APU25N,ECHO,GATE:>030026zSo Fla Gateway)
> WinMain:2012-01-03T01:29:49.421 Unused Hop(ECHO) Has No DigiXform in
(K4AG>ID,ECHO,GATE:K4AG/R ECHO/D GATE/G K4AG-1/B)
> WinMain:2012-01-03T01:29:49.453 Unused Hop(ECHO) Has No DigiXform in
(K4AG>ID,ECHO,GATE:K4AG/R ECHO/D GATE/G K4AG-1/B)
> WinMain:2012-01-03T01:31:25.421 Unused Hop(ECHO) Has No DigiXform in
(W6OTH>APZ114,ECHO,GATE,WIDE2-2:>Tracy in Milpitas CA - w6oth@...)
> WinMain:2012-01-03T01:31:25.421 Unused Hop(ECHO) Has No DigiXform in
(W6OTH>APZ114,ECHO,GATE,WIDE2-2:>Tracy in Milpitas CA - w6oth@...)
> WinMain:2012-01-03T01:32:49.156 All Hops Used (3/3) in
(K1CKK-1>APWW08,K4AG*:>030132zAPRSIS32)
> WinMain:2012-01-03T01:34:19.593 Unused Hop(GATE) Has No DigiXform in
(KB2ETO>APW284,GATE,WIDE:=4230.70N/07619.40WNPHG2140/New York, Tompkins, Dryden,
WinAPRS 2.8.4 -284-<630>)
> WinMain:2012-01-03T01:34:19.593 Unused Hop(GATE) Has No DigiXform in
(KB2ETO>APW284,GATE,WIDE:=4230.70N/07619.40WNPHG2140/New York, Tompkins, Dryden,
WinAPRS 2.8.4 -284-<630>)
> WinMain:2012-01-03T01:41:00.046 Unused Hop(GATE) Has No DigiXform in
(K5RAV>ID,GATE,WIDE:K5RAV/R ECHO/D GATE/G K5RAV-1/B)
>
> TRANSMIT
> 12:21.109 Transmit(IS)
W7KJ-15>APWW08,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1:<IGATE,MSG_CNT=0,LOC_CNT=0,DIR_CNT=0,RF_CNT=0
> 2012-01-03T00:12:23.109 Transmit(IS+RF)
W7KJ-15>APWW08,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1:=4713.43N/12236.82W&FOX ISLAND, WA.
> 2012-01-03T00:12:23.109 Transmit(INT)
W7KJ-15>APWW08,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1:=4713.43N/12236.82W&FOX ISLAND, WA.
> 2012-01-03T00:12:41.500 Transmit(INT)
SEWFFA>APRS,qAO,WE7U-WX:;SEWFFAa00*051200z4721.22N\12312.34WwNWS_WATCH,FLASH_FLO\
OD,WAC45 !w-N!{4C002
> 2012-01-03T00:14:21.109 Transmit(INT)
W7KJ-15>APWW08,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1:T#465,100,048,078,500,000,10100000
> 2012-01-03T00:19:21.125 Transmit(IS)
W7KJ-15>APWW08,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1:<IGATE,MSG_CNT=0,LOC_CNT=1,DIR_CNT=1,RF_CNT=1,DX=\
1*VE7AV-4(456mi@358°)
> 2012-01-03T00:29:21.140 Transmit(INT) W7KJ-15>APWW08,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1::W7KJ-15 
:PARM.Battery,Charging/AC,GPS+Sat,A4,A5,A/C,Charging,GPS,B4,B5,B6,B7,B8
> 2012-01-03T00:29:21.140 Transmit(INT) W7KJ-15>APWW08,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1::W7KJ-15 
:UNIT.Percent,Charge/On/Off,Sats/On/Off,N/A,N/A,On,Yes,On,N/A,N/A,N/A,N/A,N/A
> 2012-01-03T00:29:21.140 Transmit(INT) W7KJ-15>APWW08,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1::W7KJ-15 
:EQNS.0,1,0,0,1,0,0,1,0,0,1,0,0,1,0
> 2012-01-03T00:29:21.140 Transmit(INT) W7KJ-15>APWW08,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1::W7KJ-15 
:BITS.11111111,Battery State Tracking
> 2012-01-03T00:29:21.140 Transmit(INT)
W7KJ-15>APWW08,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1:T#466,100,048,083,500,000,10100000
> 2012-01-03T00:40:17.140 Transmit(RF)
W4TTU-1>BEACON,W7KJ-15*,WIDE2-1:!3902.63N/07722.48W&/ 30M/2M Sugarland Run VA
iGate
> 2012-01-03T00:44:21.187 Transmit(INT)
W7KJ-15>APWW08,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1:T#467,100,048,088,500,000,10100000
> 2012-01-03T00:59:21.250 Transmit(INT)
W7KJ-15>APWW08,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1:T#468,100,048,073,500,000,10100000
> 2012-01-03T01:12:23.484 Transmit(IS+RF)
W7KJ-15>APWW08,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1:=4713.42N/12236.82W&FOX ISLAND, WA.
> 2012-01-03T01:12:23.484 Transmit(INT)
W7KJ-15>APWW08,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1:=4713.42N/12236.82W&FOX ISLAND, WA.
> 2012-01-03T01:14:21.281 Transmit(INT)
W7KJ-15>APWW08,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1:T#469,100,048,083,500,000,10100000
> 2012-01-03T01:19:21.296 Transmit(IS)
W7KJ-15>APWW08,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1:<IGATE,MSG_CNT=0,LOC_CNT=3,DIR_CNT=3,RF_CNT=3
> 2012-01-03T01:29:21.328 Transmit(INT)
W7KJ-15>APWW08,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1:T#470,100,048,078,500,000,10100000
> 2012-01-03T01:44:21.362 Transmit(INT)
W7KJ-15>APWW08,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1:T#471,100,048,088,500,000,10100000
>
>     Looks to Digi when any hops left except for GATE and ECHO, how do
> you configure for those two?
>   Thanks for help,explanations.
>              Ken/w7kj
>
> --- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)"<kj4erj@...>  wrote:
>>> You said that those lines came from the Digi(NOT) trace log.  Is there
>> anything in your enabled Digi trace log?  That's where you'll see the
>> ones that fired your<DigiXform>  rule.  You'd also see digipeated
>> packets in your Transmit event log being the packets you transmit whose
>> source call is not your own.
>>
>> Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
>>
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Probably not, at least I have abetter grasp of <DigiXform> now.
Thanks for all the help I have been enjoying your program.
                      Ken/w7kj

--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)" <kj4erj@...> wrote:
>
>>
> First, you need to ask yourself if you SHOULD be digipeating on WIDE2-1
> or WIDE2-2 and/or GATE and/or ECHO.  In particular, I'd think that GATE
> is not a request for a digipeat, but something else.
>
> >
>

Glad to do it.  I guess according to Bob's recommendations, I really
should be defaulting to the following <DigiXform> set.

<DigiXform>TEMP1-1=TEMP1*</DigiXform>
<DigiXform>TEMP2-2=TEMP2-1</DigiXform>
<DigiXform>TEMP2-1=TEMP2*</DigiXform>
<DigiXform>TEMP3-3=TEMP3-2</DigiXform>
<DigiXform>TEMP3-2=TEMP3-1</DigiXform>
<DigiXform>TEMP3-1=TEMP3*</DigiXform>
(and so forth....)

I'm also considering adding support for n-N in some sort of shorthand
form when I get into the RF port work after the upcoming general release.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32


On 1/2/2012 9:49 PM, annie2ka wrote:
>   Probably not, at least I have abetter grasp of<DigiXform>  now.
> Thanks for all the help I have been enjoying your program.
>                       Ken/w7kj
>
> --- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, "Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)"<kj4erj@...>  wrote:
>> First, you need to ask yourself if you SHOULD be digipeating on WIDE2-1
>> or WIDE2-2 and/or GATE and/or ECHO.  In particular, I'd think that GATE
>> is not a request for a digipeat, but something else.
>>
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>

Well, I kind of meant if the WiMo version could be run under such a program a
Wine.... I know there are people working on an "emulator" under Android. But not
sure if they have it working. I know there is know a working Android version
that works on my HTC HD2. But that meens switching from one to the other back
and forth. :( Oh, well. Time will only tell what I am going to have to do.

Thanks, Kevin
W7BOZ

--- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, Greg Dolkas <ko6th.greg@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Kevin,
>
> Hmm, ok.  I thought the capacitive touch screens came in with the i-things and
then Android, skiping WinMo.  Sounds like there was more overlap than I thought.
>
> But, the point remains...  A Win32 program (one using libraries for a
desktop/laptop) will have a hard(er) time working in a 320x320-ish screen where
one can't use a stylus.
>
> Greg  KO6TH
>
> Sent from my trusty iPAQ (with a pointy stylus)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "w7boz" <w7boz@...>
> To: aprsisce@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: 12/31/11 6:42 AM
> Subject: [aprsisce] Re: WINE - Windows Emulator for Android?
>
> On screen navigation??? Sharp pointy thing??? Sorry, but only the old phones
use a Stylus..... Hence my problem running Aprsisce on my HTC HD2. You have to
use BIG fingers to try and do everything. It is very hard. And have asked Lynn
to make the ZOOM in/out bigger so my finger can do it. My HTC HD2 has no stylus.
And very hard to use aprsisce. Even though it is Wimo 6.5.
>
> Kevin
> W7BOZ
>
> --- In aprsisce@yahoogroups.com, Greg Dolkas <ko6th.greg@> wrote:
> >
> > But isn't your problem going to be the on-screen navigation?  WinMo 5/6/6.5
> > uses a relatively sharp pointy thing (stylus) on the screen to navigate;
> > Android uses something blunt (finger).  I'd think you would need a
> > different screen layout, or at least a different way to do menus, to do
> > things properly.  The special places to tap on the screen are hard enough
> > to hit with a stylus; using your finger could be madeningly difficult.
> >
> > Greg  KO6TH
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Lynn W Deffenbaugh (Mr)
> > <kj4erj@>wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > On 12/29/2011 3:04 PM, Eric Lorenz K9LGE wrote:
> > > > So what we are REALLY looking for is a Windows Phone emulator for
> > > > Android. Sorry, but I wouldn't even think about trying to run most Win
> > > > desktop software on an Android phone. Could you imagine trying to run
> > > > the desktop version of APRSISCE on an Android? It is a nice program, but
> > > > trying to navigate that on a 4" screen? Ewww...
> > >
> > > Guess what? APRSISCE for Windows Mobile is the SAME screen as the main
> > > window of APRSIS32 on a Windows Desktop. It's a bit tight, but it's
> > > (almost) all there! Looks really good on a WebDT, if that platform only
> > > had transparency!
> > >
> > > Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>