I think Mr. Perdue should present his evidence showing that the SPLC was
started by Christian lay people and pastors, instead of by Morris Dees and
Joseph J. Levin Jr. (non-Christians as far as can be seen) from the
historical evidence presented by Mr. Loftus. He should do this or concede
that he was wrong.

Attempts to change the subject does make Mr. Perdue appear to be
disingenuous and a "game player". It certainly shows a lack of integrity,
nevermind it being un-Christian, to make claims and then refuse to repent of
those claims when they are proven wrong. I think the time has come for Mr.
Perdue to "put up or shut up".

Rolaant


-----Original Message-----
From: apologetics@yahoogroups.com [mailto:apologetics@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Joseph Perdue
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 11:32
To: apologetics@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [apologetics and theology] Re: SPLC: Rabidly Anti-Gay Westboro
Baptist Church Now Targeting Jews


 Just because you say something is untrue doesn't make it so. Simply saying
that a fact I post isn't true does not automatically make me a "game
player." You need to get a grip. I hope you don't treat nonchristians this
way.

--- On Tue, 6/30/09, Mark Loftus <mloftus955@...> wrote:


From: Mark Loftus <mloftus955@...>
Subject: [apologetics and theology] Re: SPLC: Rabidly Anti-Gay Westboro
Baptist Church Now Targeting Jews
To: apologetics@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, June 30, 2009, 8:36 AM


No, I'm questioning you because of your deceit and twisting of things I've
said, avoiding questions, etc.

If you want to debate honestly, fine, I gave two posts with facts and
evidence that you never answered or responded to.

You started by making a false statement that the SPLC was started by
Christians, which I showed was false in my response. You never answered
that.

I don't want to hear anything from you unless you answer the points I
made... No more smokescreens.

There are liberals and others who I disagree with and respect, but not you -
you are a gameplayer from what I've seen, that is not a Christian spirit.

You're acting like a deceiver, so I have little interest in going back and
forth with you.

--- In apologetics@ yahoogroups. com, Joseph Perdue <letsgobravesfan@ ...>
wrote:
>
> You're questioning my salvation because we can't agree on historical
> facts?