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Re: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] Peter's definitions

Hi again Tarjei, you wrote:
 
 
"The relationship between Nazism and Anthroposophy as diametrical opposites, as Light and Darkness, is crystal clear from posts and articles by myself and others about this subject."
 
 
Those posts and articles are mostly occultist nonsense, in my view. They tell us nothing about the ideological and historical parallels between early anthroposophy and parts of the Nazi movement, because they are fixated on ahistorical labels like "Light" and "Darkness".


"Because your alleged answer is nowhere to be found! Please prove me wrong by posting a link to your answer to Detlef's question"
 
 
You really can't find this for yourself in the archive? I thought you were the computer geek type? On March 15 I provided thorough quotes from The Secret Doctrine addressing this and every other foolish thing Detlef said about the book. You can find that post here:
 
 
According to Blavatsky, the "yellow and red, brown and black" races are "remnants of the Atlanteans", the fourth of the five historical Root-Races; the yellow, red, brown and black races exist today because the "undeveloped tribes and families of the Atlantean stock fell gradually into a still more abject and savage condition." (Secret Doctrine vol II p. 786)  Elsewhere she says that these "primitive" races are the descendants of both Atlanteans and Lemurians, a mixture of the third and fourth Root-Races (e.g. p. 206). At another point she calls the "the red-yellow, the black, and the brown-white" the "three distinct primeval Races" (ibid. p. 260). And so on and so forth.
 
 
"With a statement like that, it looks like you're losing it completely."
 
 
But you just said, a couple of posts ago, that I had gotten it "exactly" right, in your own words. You then apparently changed your mind in the very next post. Which is it? If you now think my summary of Steiner's doctrine of racial evolution was inaccurate in some way, surely you can point to the specific inaccuracies? Do you now mean to say that Steiner did *not* teach a version of spiritual eugenics built around racial missions and progressive evolution through a series of ever higher racial forms?
 
 
Peter
 
 
 


 

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... Ideologically, Anthroposophy and Nazism are diametrical opposites. You are incapable of comprehending that because your hyper-intellectualized thinking is...
Tarjei Straume
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Apr 2, 2004
7:24 pm

Hi again Tarjei, you wrote: "The relationship between Nazism and Anthroposophy as diametrical opposites, as Light and Darkness, is crystal clear from posts and...
Peter Staudenmaier
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Apr 2, 2004
9:14 pm

Nice try, Mr. Staudenmaier. I suggest you read the end of my last message again. You must be pretty bored to try to engage in conversation with somebody who...
zapdingo Offline Send Email Apr 2, 2004
11:39 pm

PS wrote (#3962): "According to Blavatsky, the "yellow and red, brown and black" races are "remnants of the Atlanteans", the fourth of the five historical...
Detlef Hardorp
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Apr 3, 2004
3:20 pm

Detlef writes: "I gather that Blavatky is thus saying that the "yellow and red, brown and black" races are either remnants of the fourth of the five historical...
Peter Staudenmaier
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Apr 3, 2004
5:31 pm

Hi Bryan, you wrote: Bryan: "It's rather moving to see how in love you are with your own words and thoughts. This love blinds you to their conspicuous faults...
at@ael...
dh487 Offline Send Email
Apr 6, 2004
5:00 am

Hi again Daniel, you wrote: "These arguments would be nothing new to you, and I doubt you would consider them any more seriously the second time that the...
Peter Staudenmaier
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Apr 6, 2004
6:20 pm

Peter Staudenmaier: I didn't ignore Detlef's question. I've answered it several times, complete with extensive quotations from Blavatsky and Steiner. How did...
at@ael...
dh487 Offline Send Email
Apr 6, 2004
5:51 am

Hi Daniel, you wrote: "Peter, why do you run away from every substantive question of your understanding of Anthroposophy? You have not answered Detlef." I did...
Peter Staudenmaier
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Apr 6, 2004
6:33 pm

Peter Staudenmaier wrote: "Detlef's query had nothing whatsoever to do with substantive questions about my understanding of anthroposophy." Bradford comments; ...
holderlin66 Offline Send Email Apr 6, 2004
10:27 pm

... Bradford shrink wraps Peter; Now Peter, because you think you know so much about anthroposophy, and you fancy yourself a Green Ecology critic, and you wish...
holderlin66 Offline Send Email Apr 6, 2004
11:26 pm

Daniel wrote: "You haven't answered my question about Blavatsky's view of races either." Peter Staudenmaier: Which one did I not answer? ... Daniel wrote: ...
at@ael...
dh487 Offline Send Email
Apr 8, 2004
4:16 am

Hi again Daniel, you wrote: "These arguments would be nothing new to you, and I doubt you would consider them any more seriously the second time that the...
at@ael...
dh487 Offline Send Email
Apr 8, 2004
6:14 am

Tarjei wrote: You're doing the same thing, Peter. You're creating divisions and racial controversy and what-have-you, and when confronted with your...
zapdingo Offline Send Email Apr 1, 2004
7:00 pm

Tarjei wrote: For instance, Detlef asked you the following question: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/anthroposophy_tomorrow/message/3460, where I asked: "were...
Detlef Hardorp
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Apr 1, 2004
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