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Uriel Tal - Christians and Jews in Germany: Religion, Politics and   Message List  
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Re: [anthroposophy_tomorrow] Re: understanding antisemitism

Hi again Tarjei, you wrote:
 

"In other words, Rudolf Steiner spoke about positive and negative aspects of the Jewish culture."
 
Yes, as well as the very existence of "Jewry as such".
 
"Why does this make him philosemitic and antisemitic?"
 
It doesn't necessarily make him anything at all. You'd have an easier time understanding this if you could distinguish persons from beliefs.
 
"Isn't it possible to speak about Jewry at all without earning such strange
labels?"
 
Sometimes. But sometimes the things that various people say about "Jewry as such" can indeed be characterized as philosemitic or antisemitic.

Peter





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... Tarjei: In other words, Rudolf Steiner spoke about positive and negative aspects of the Jewish culture. Why does this make him philosemitic and...
Tarjei Straume
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Mar 2, 2004
6:59 pm

Hi again Tarjei, you wrote: "In other words, Rudolf Steiner spoke about positive and negative aspects of the Jewish culture." Yes, as well as the very...
Peter Staudenmaier
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Mar 3, 2004
3:21 am

... Are you supporting the notion that beliefs have lives of their own that are entirely detached from the persons uttering them, and that they are therefore...
Tarjei Straume
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Mar 4, 2004
11:27 pm

Tarjei: "Why does this make [Steiner] philosemitic and antisemitic?" Peter Staudenmaier: "It doesn't necessarily make him anything at all. You'd have an easier...
at@ael...
dh487 Offline Send Email
Mar 3, 2004
10:32 pm

I notice this has gone unremarked. The implication is that if we are to remain consistent, it is not possible to speak of Steiner as an anti-Semite, or even to...
at@ael...
dh487 Offline Send Email
Mar 5, 2004
6:44 pm

Bradford writes; Understanding the [Bodies of Christ] I have on my mind an inner revelation, which, while easy to say, has far deeper conscious reverberations...
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9:58 pm

Hi Daniel, "I notice this has gone unremarked. The implication is that if we are to remain consistent, it is not possible to speak of Steiner as an...
Peter Staudenmaier
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Mar 5, 2004
11:25 pm

... On the contrary. It makes your witch hunt against RS even more enigmatic. Tarjei...
Tarjei Straume
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Mar 6, 2004
5:06 pm

Daniel wrote: "I notice this has gone unremarked. The implication is that if we are to remain consistent, it is not possible to speak of Steiner as an...
at@ael...
dh487 Offline Send Email
Mar 6, 2004
3:08 am

Hi Daniel, I'm a little reluctant to do this, because I think the recent digressions about proper netiquette are a distraction from the topics we ought to be...
Peter Staudenmaier
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Mar 6, 2004
7:05 pm

Peter, Thanks for your time and consideration. I am curious why you have chosen this for an example. In this particular case, I do not think you have distorted...
at@ael...
dh487 Offline Send Email
Mar 6, 2004
10:58 pm

Hi gain Daniel, "Thanks for your time and consideration. I am curious why you have chosen this for an example." Because you mixed up Patrick and Tarjei. Trying...
Peter Staudenmaier
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Mar 7, 2004
5:58 pm

... Daniel has already commented on this himself, but here are my 2c: Making mistakes in attributions is common; I once confused Dottie with Mike. Losing track...
Tarjei Straume
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Mar 7, 2004
11:34 pm

Peter, Ok. I mistakenly attributed to Patrick something Tarjei wrote. My apologies to all three of you, and the rest of the list as well. Does that change...
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