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OK folks, I'm going to throw something at you in this post.

Opponents and critics of Anthroposophy have accused the movement of being
linked to Nazism in terms of racism and fascism, and of being similar to
Scientology in terms of destructive, oppressive cultism. As it turns out,
it's a lot easier to publish such allegations and spread them around than
it is to refute them, which requires a lot more time and effort. But there
is another reason why these particular allegations easily get a life of
their own: They are based upon quarter-truths. The critics who use such
propaganda tactics are usually not themselves aware of where the
quarter-truth may be located; they just grab at it instinctively as it were.

I'll try to explain what I'm getting at by first telling you about a
historical view held by a friend of mine in Texas sixteen years ago, when I
was a member of the AS for a short time and participated in an
anthroposophical study group in Houston, focusing on the PoF. We were
talking about the outbreak of WW I in 1914 and how this prevented RS from
continuing his spiritual research into certain mysteries of the Gospels. My
friend held the view that Steiner's mission on German-speaking soil was so
important for the evolution of humanity that not only WW I, but also WW II,
were direct results of his activities.

This may be too much to swallow even for anthroposophists. Personally, I'm
still chewing on it, although I must admit I'm leaning in my friend's
direction here. He also thought that one of the reasons why the Jews were
targeted for such unspeakable murderous cruelty under Hitler, was that the
archangel Michael was the folk spirit for the Hebrew people in the Old
Testament times, and in 1879 he had returned as the archai Michael, the
very countenance of Christ leading humanity into the New Age as Time
Spirit, Zeitgeist. So to get at Michael, Ahriman went for his children of
old, the Jews. And the person who made Christ-Michael such a threat to
Ahriman's ambitions to hijack the evolution of humanity through
ultra-rationalism was none other than Rudolf Steiner.

Of course there are objections to this scenario, that both world wars were
the results of, attacks against, Steiner's mission in German-speaking
countries. Well, the man was important, but not THAT important. Impossible.
Well, I have no further comment. As I said, I'm just throwing this out at you.

I am not going into Scientology in this post. I have treated this subject
extensively on private lists and have texts available if need be. As I
understand it, the Scientologists approach initiation, which they call
"clear," in such a way that they kill the Doppelgänger or sonehow knock the
double out, forcing down this hindrance to crossing the threshold
illegitimately. It goes without saying that such an approach will not only
result in a long list of suicides and psychoses among their "raw meat," but
also insanity.

And here we come to another riddle, not unlike the one I invented for fun
earler about the good cop, the bad cop, and the suspect. If the above is
true, the following would also make sense - something I picked up from
someone on the internet: When Anthroposophy was given to humanity through
Rudolf Steiner's works and lectures, it resulted in two reverse
counter-images so to speak (one doctor Jekyll and two mister Hydes if you
prefer): The first of these was Nazism; the second was Scientology. One of
the things the latter two have in common is a strong Jesuit element with
regard to their inner structure and discipline. One of the key differences
is that Nazism was fascist and Scientology is Communist. In addition to
Aleister Crowley, Beria (chief of the secret police under Stalin) also had
great influence upon Ron Hubbard's ideas and system.

But I'm not going further with this now, because I am going to present to
you this great riddle: If we're dealing with Ahriman, Lucifer, and Christ
here (as usual), we should be able to assign an ideology or system to each
of them here: Anthroposophy, Scientology, and Nazism. But which is which?
Anthroposophy is Christ, but what about the other two, Nazism and
Scientlogy? Which of these is Lucifer and which is Ahriman? Any ideas on
this folks?

Cheers,


Tarjei
http://uncletaz.com/





Sat Nov 8, 2003 7:37 am

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OK folks, I'm going to throw something at you in this post. Opponents and critics of Anthroposophy have accused the movement of being linked to Nazism in terms...
Tarjei Straume
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Nov 8, 2003
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Hello Taz et al, That's pretty easy, dear uncle! Nazism is definitely Ahriman. Hitler was a direct "descendant" in reverse of Ahriman (forerunner). He came to...
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Nov 8, 2003
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When I suggested that if Christ reveals himself through Anthroposophy , perhaps Lucifer and Ahriman express themselves through Nazism and Scientology. And if...
Tarjei Straume
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Nov 9, 2003
7:04 pm

Christine wrote: "Nazism is definitely Ahriman." ***************************************************************************************************** I won't...
Richard Distasi
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Nov 8, 2003
5:28 pm

Yah, but.... Lucifer & Ahriman help each other, remember? Lucifer got all the emotions worked up for Ahriman's mechanizations re: Hitler. Ahriman's got his...
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Nov 8, 2003
5:48 pm

Hello Taz et al! I am wondering - how many people in this group take Steiner's indication of Ahriman's BODILY, PHYSICAL incarnation seriously. I happen to do...
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Nov 9, 2003
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... For the record: I am not an Uncle; I am only Tarjei, a normal human mortal. But I take it as a compliment that you're getting me mixed up with my mentor...
Tarjei Straume
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Nov 9, 2003
11:52 pm

That British movie WAS Farenheit 451!!!!! : )...
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... Wow, deja vous! Tarjei...
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