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Hello anthroposophy tomorrow list,
 
I've just joined your list today after following some of the exchanges for the past couple months via the public list archive. I hope that my participation here will be seen as an opportunity for discussion and debate rather than a provocation. I should be able to remain on the list for six weeks or so.
 
I'd like to outline what I see as some of the major areas of agreement and disagreement between myself and several of you on the topics of race and antisemitism and their relevance to Rudolf Steiner's work. In general, I think that the relationship between Steiner's racial theories, on the one hand, and other race doctrines prevalent in German-speaking Europe in the early twentieth century (including Nazi race theories and their precursors), on the other hand, is a good deal more complex than several of you seem to think. It is quite possible, indeed likely, that I have misunderstood the stance that other anthroposophy tomorrow list members have staked out on some of these questions, and I invite clarification and correction if anybody thinks that is the case. I'm going to divide my initial comments into general statements about looking at racial and ethnic doctrines in a historical context, and specific statements about Steiner's work.
 
General themes: I agree that the best way to understand what a historical figure believed and taught is to consult primary sources directly when possible. I agree that racist belief systems involve a hierarchical arrangement of different racial groups. I agree that racist doctrines do not invalidate their authors' other achievements. I agree that empathy, in the specific sense of trying to get inside the mental world of another person, is necessary for historical comprehension.
 
I disagree that contesting other people's self-conceptions involves arrogance. I disagree that adequate understanding of historical figures requires empathy in the specific sense of sympathizing with them. I disagree that external analysts should adopt the internal perspectives of the worldviews they study. I disagree that critical examination of century-old racial theories involves imposing current standards of political correctness.
 
Specific themes: I agree that it is important to take the wide breadth of Steiner's statements on race and ethnicity into account. I agree that Steiner combined anti-racist and racist doctrines, and philosemitic and antisemitic doctrines. I agree that in his theosophical/anthroposophical period Steiner saw his own stance as consistently anti-nationalist and did not consider himself an antisemite. I agree that Steiner recognized his own fallibility. I agree that many Jews, both in Steiner's era and today, have found Steiner's teachings appealing and valuable.
 
I disagree that Steiner's central emphasis on love, on the Christ impulse, and on the Universal Human neutralize the racist and judeophobic strands within his work. I disagree that Steiner's version of the Aryan myth, along with other non-Nazi versions, were not recognizably racist until after 1945. I disagree that Steiner's insistence on assimilation was incompatible with antisemitism.
 
Since Steiner's view on Jews have been a hot topic here lately, it might make sense for me to focus on them initially. I also think this is a good topic for discussion because it offers ample evidence of both the 'good' and 'bad' sides of Steiner's teachings, so to speak. I will very briefly explain my perspective on this question, and I invite responses.
 
I think that Steiner went through several phases in his assessment of Jews, Judaism, and Jewishness. My basic periodization is as follows: an early phase of cultural antisemitism during his pan-German period in the 1880's; a middle phase of individualist philosemitism around the turn of the century; and a late phase of esoteric antisemitism during his theosophical/anthroposophical period after 1902.
 
In the writings and lectures that I consider tendentially antisemitic, Steiner did not espouse the kind of racial antisemitism that was becoming increasingly prominent during his era; instead his stance remained emphatically assimilationist throughout his life. I do think, however, that his mature views on Jews can only be understood in conjunction with his broader racial doctrines. In Steiner's opinion, the best response to what was then known as the 'Jewish question' was for "Jewry as a people" to disappear by blending into other peoples. He viewed this disappearance of Jewishness as the solution to aggressively antisemitic agitation and hatred, as well as to the ostensibly closed and anachronistic nature of Jews themselves. 
 
In closing, for now I would like to offer several quotes from Steiner's published works on the topic, chosen from the three phases I outlined above:
 
"It certainly cannot be denied that Jewry today still behaves as a closed totality, and that it has frequently intervened in the development of our current state of affairs in a way that is anything but favorable to European ideas of culture. But Jewry as such has long since outlived its time; it has no more justification within the modern life of peoples, and the fact that it continues to exist is a mistake of world history whose consequences are unavoidable. We do not mean the forms of the Jewish religion alone, but above all the spirit of Jewry, the Jewish way of thinking."
 
(Steiner in 1888: Gesammelte Aufsätze zur Literatur 1884-1902 p. 152)
 
"For me there has never been a Jewish question. My course of development was such that when part of the nationalist student movement in Austria became antisemitic, this seemed to me a mockery of all the educational achievements of modern times. I have never been able to judge people by anything other than their individual, personal character traits. Whether someone was a Jew or not was always a matter of complete indifference to me. I can say that this remains my opinion today. And I have never been able to see anything in antisemitism other than intellectual inferiority, poor ethical judgement, and lack of taste."
 
(Steiner in 1900: Gesammelte Aufsätze zur Kultur- und Zeitgeschichte 1887-1901 pp. 378-9)
 
"Antisemitism makes a mockery of all faith in ideas. Above all it flies in the face of the idea that humanity stands higher than any single form (people, race, nation) in which humankind appears. [. . .] Antisemitism is a danger not only for the Jews, it is a danger for non-Jews as well. It results from a mindset which does not take sound and honest judgement seriously. It promotes this sort of mindset. And those who think philosophically should not quietly stand by in the face of this. Faith in ideas will only be restored if we combat the opposing lack of such faith in all areas as energetically as possible."
 
(Steiner in 1901: Gesammelte Aufsätze zur Kultur- und Zeitgeschichte 1887-1901  pp. 412-413.)
 
"People who listen to the great leaders of humankind, and preserve their soul with its eternal essence, reincarnate in an advanced race; in the same way he who ignores the great teacher, who rejects the great leader of humankind, will always reincarnate in the same race, because he was only able to develop the one form. This is the deeper meaning of Ahasver, who must always reappear in the same form because he rejected the hand of the greatest leader, Christ. Thus each person has the opportunity to become caught up in the essence of one incarnation, to push away the leader of humankind, or instead to undergo the transformation into higher races, toward ever higher perfection. Races would never become decadent, never decline, if there weren't souls that are unable to move up and unwilling to move up to a higher racial form. Look at the races that have survived from earlier eras: they only exist because some souls could not climb higher."
 
(Steiner in 1908: Das Hereinwirken geistiger Wesenheiten in den Menschen p. 174.)
 
"This discussion that I have just described to you took place before the Great War of 1914 to 1918, you see. The fact that people no longer want the great universal-human principles, but prefer to segregate themselves and develop national forces, that is exactly what lead to the great war! Thus the greatest tragedy of this 20th century has come from what the Jews are also striving for. And one can say that since everything the Jews have done can now be done consciously by all people, the best thing that the Jews could do would be to disappear into the rest of humankind, to blend in with the rest of humankind, so that Jewry as a people would simply cease to exist. That is what would be ideal. This ideal is still opposed, even today, by many Jewish habits – and above all by the hatred of other people. That is what must be overcome."
 
(Steiner in 1924: Die Geschichte der Menschheit und die Weltanschauungen der Kulturvölker p. 189)
 
"Today all aspects of the Jews are dominated by racial qualities. Above all they marry among themselves. They see the racial qualities, not the spiritual. And this is what must be said in reply to the question: has the Jewish people fulfilled its mission within the evolution of human knowledge? It has fulfilled it; for in earlier times one single people was needed to bring about a certain monotheism. But today spiritual insight itself is necessary. Therefore this mission has been fulfilled. And therefore this Jewish mission as such, as a Jewish mission, is no longer necessary in evolution; instead the only proper thing would be for the Jews to blend in with the other peoples and disappear into the other peoples."
 
(Steiner in 1924: Die Geschichte der Menschheit und die Weltanschauungen der Kulturvölker p. 190)
 
I encourage other list members to offer their own comments on these passages and to offer alternative readings to my own. I'd rather avoid pointless wrangling over whether these quotes have been taken out of context, since many anthroposophists appear to have a very different understanding of that phrase from my own, but if anybody thinks there is anything fishy about any of the above passages, I encourage you to say so. I also encourage further quotations from Steiner related to this topic, and viewpoints on their relevance for anthroposophists today.
 
Peter Staudenmaier
 
 
 
 

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... we now call 'political correctness' (add that to the list of things I admire about him). I do not think that he lied on this topic. Dear Peter, What is...
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Hi Peter, ... Tarjei: I think it's important to keep the moral aspect of racism up front, especially when you throw the word around almost every time you...
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... Please read: This same type of game is played with the word "anti-Semitic" which is stretched semantically to absurd limits when it is made the consequence...
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