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Chiapas, The Revolution Different!

--- In anthroposophy@yahoogroups.com, "elaineupton2001
<elaineupton@h...>" <elaineupton@h...> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> The Revolution in Chiapas is a different, very unique, kind of
> revolution, and has much to teach, I believe, about the workings of
> the Group Soul, the Intellectual Soul, the Consciousness Soul, and
> beyond to Spirit Self...
>
> >
> In any case, the Zapatistas, a small ragtag army, guerilla, in the
> mountains of Lacondon, at first took up arms, but after a long
period
> of negotiations with the (often corrupt) Mexican government,
arrived
> at a truce. Since then, the Zapatistas have a policy of non-
violence,
> and some of the leaders have a practice of meditative, almost
> monastic silence. Yet, they do have a powerful speaker and
marvelous
> writer--the mysterious one known as Subcomandante Marcos, who says
> repeatedly that through his voice is the voice of the Zapatistas.
>
> The Zapatistas have gone beyond Marxism, beyond the Che Guevara
style
> revolution, and are seeking to remain beyond violence, so that
their
> army is a non-violent army of peace and renewal. They have come to
a
> place of deep spiritual communion with their land, with their
> language, their stories of creation and destiny (the Mayan stories
of
> their region). Their work is work in revitalizing these stories,
that
> they live in their work with each other and with the land and with
> all peoples who will join them in this spirit of this new
Revolution.
>
> Here is a poem by Comandante David and Subcomandante Marcos (in
> Spanish and in English). This was written years ago, before they
put
> violence aside, but already the spirit of non-violence emerges as
do
> many marvelous things in this poem:
>
> Hermanos y hermanas de Mexico y el Mundo:
> En este el ano siete de la guerra contra el ovido, repetimos lo
> que somos.
> Somos viento, nosotros. No el pecho que nos sopla.
> Somos palabra, nosotros. No los labios que nos hablan.
> Somos paso, nosotros. No elpie que nos anda.
> Somos latido, nosotros. No el corazon que lo pulsa.
> Somos puente, nosotros. No los suelos que se unen.
> Somos camino, nosotros. No el punto de llegada ni de partida.
> Somos lugar, nosotros. No quien lo ocupa.
> No existimos, nosotros. Solo somos.
> Wiete veces somos. Nostros siete veces
> Nosotros, el espejo repetido.
> El reflejo, nsostros
> Lo mano que apenas abre la ventana, nosotros
> Nosotros, el mundo llamado a la puerta del manana.
>
> Indigenous brother and sister of Mexico and the world:
> In this, the seventh year of the war against oblivion, we repeat
> who we are.
> We are wind, we are. Not the breast that breathes us.
> We are word, we are Not the lips which speak us.
> We are steps, we are. Not the foot that moves us.
> We are heartbeat, we are. Not the heart that pulses.
> We are a bridge, we are. Not the lands that form a union.
>
> We are road, we are. Not the point of arrival or departure.
> We are place, we are. Not those who occupy that place.
> We do not exist, we are. We only are.
> SEven times we are. Seven times we are.
> We are the reflection repeated.
> The reflection, we are
> The hand that just opened the window, we are.
> We are the timid knock at the door of tomorrow.
> *****

Let Me Add to this wonderful connection Elaine:

Studies in Manas and the Spirit Self:

When facing the occult perception of who has attained Manas or Spirit
Self under legitimate spiritual cognition we are faced with a
qualitative cultural delusions regarding the actual abilities of the
Church to recognize true Halos, or transformed astral bodies in human
beings. Technically in the religious sphere this amounts to
Canonization and Beatification.

Recently the Pope bestowed beatification on two Zapotec Indians who
were martyred along with many others. The story of their martyrdom
and appeasement of the politics of Mexico has very little to do with
the truth of a purified astral body. A saint or bestowing sainthood
on certain individuals has fallen well below the realm of occult
perception as religion and the science of man.

Now we might say that Parsifal had a purified astral body. However if
I take the Knighting of Paul McCartney or Elton John as something
that denotes a spiritual truth and the bestowing of the gift on them
has deep implications into the occult foundations of the world, I
would be wrong.

In the case of Parsifal and his meeting with the Christ Being as the
raised "Youth of Nain" we have a stream of spiritual life through the
Grail that maintains occult truth to it. The continued revelation of
Manes and Manicheanism; his opposition to the school of Gondi Shapur;
or how Manicheanism impacted St. Augustine retains something of
occult authenticity. We are still on firm ground and can arrive at
the mystery of the Purified Astral body as that which has survived
the impulses of adolescence, puberty, sexuality, and emotional
dysfunction and raised the Sentient Soul to the lofty Halo that has
been painted around the heads of Saints.

In the "myth" of Parsifal we are allowed to follow the development of
an individual who had been raised and touched by the Christ himself.
We know that a `son of the widow' takes us back to the sentient
condition of the Egyptian era and that the Youth of Nain was a "son
of a widow", namely Isis. In the story of Parisfal we see his
youthful mistakes as a teaching to Waldorf students in the upper
grades. We also see how he arrives at the compassion and depth of
soul forces to attain the inner question, the quest that brings
Parsifal past Kundry – the fallen astral forces- and by recognition
and compassion arrives at the higher mission of the Angelic
transformation of the astral body into Spirit-Self. In those three
drops of blood and the meeting with Gurnemanz the hermit, Parsifal
arrives at the calm state where Angelic-Dove brotherhood is achieved.

This Halo represents a Beatification of the astral body as an occult
perception. The story of the two Mexican Indians who were bestowed
this recognition of the purification of the astral body by the Pope's
recent visit to Mexico has the something of the same value as the
Queen Knighting Elton John. IMO

I wish to draw attention to our reductionism of what is true and
what is mere lip service or political gaming. While the method of
death of the two martyrs recalls the ancient religious practice of
the Aztecs, in that, their martyrdom and Beatification rests on the
fact that they were hung for snitching on a pagan ritual. Their
bodies were taken down and an angry crowd realized suddenly that the
two were still alive. They cut out their hearts and threw them to the
dogs. The dogs would not eat them (which shows a rather higher astral
lawfulness in dogs then in men) and this miracle, that the hearts of
the men were not eaten by the dogs is the source of why the Church
considers these two souls worthy of Beatification.

Their deaths resemble Martyrs deaths and their deaths resemble the
type of horrific death suffered by Manes at Gondi Shapur and other
deaths brought about by the self same church which now offers
Beautification. But we can recall the Wars of Vlad the Impaler and
the thousands of unnamed Christians who lined the roads of Rome as
the horror of Crucifixion really took off as a way to straighten out
the wayward souls who refused to consider Rome and Roman rule above
Christianity.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/caribbean/search/sfl-
hmex01aug01.story?coll=sfla-news-caribbean

"SAN FRANCISCO CAJONOS, Mexico · The two Zapotec Indians died the
deaths of religious martyrs: Fellow villagers "dragged them, hung
them and finally decapitated them, cut open their sides to pull out
their hearts and gave them to the dogs," the Roman Catholic Church
says.

Pope John Paul II plans to beatify the men -- Juan Bautista and
Jacinto de los Angeles -- today in Mexico City as part of a trip
reaching out to Indians in the Americas, who have been the most
receptive to Protestant conversion in recent years.

"Beatification is the last formal step before possible sainthood, and
the ceremony comes a day after the pope canonized the first Indian
saint.

But the details of the men's lives and deaths make some people
uneasy. They were inspectors working for the Spanish colonial church -
- essentially informers helping to stamp out non-Christian practices
rooted in native cultures.

In September 1700, they told authorities of an Indian religious
ceremony. Colonial police raided the rite, and villagers enraged by
the betrayal attacked the informers.

A church biography omits the punishment for the attackers: Christian
officials decapitated and quartered 15 men and staked their body
parts by the roadside as a warning.

The case brings reminders that the triumph of Christianity in Latin
America was sometimes a violent process. For some, the martyrs' role
in helping colonial officials exterminate local practices clashes
with the church's message that "Indian peoples deserve recognition of
their way of being and of their autonomy."

Bradford comments;

How do we begin to see through the fabric of the real and unreal?
Certainly most of us cannot yet grasp how the Ego Sheath is embedded
for our times in the sentient soul, intellectual soul and
consciousness soul capacities. Much has been written that indicates
why we are stuck in the lies and delusions of our self-made,
stubborn, intellectual soul framework with its political Wag the Dawg
ideologies. Yet somehow we are to unfold an understanding of what the
Spirit Self means. Had Mother Theresa attained the Spirit Self? To
this we might compare Gandhi as well. Who bestows on Gandhi a
transformed astral body into a beautification or purification into
the Spirit Self? I do if the Pope doesn't. If the Catholic church
does not recognize anyone who transforms their astral body into what
the Angels require of brotherhood on earth, then the Church is
following a path of hypocrisy. Do our current leaders really have the
spiritual capacity to actually see these things? The answer of course
is no they do not! Are most of us hypocrites? Absolutely

The Pope was an Anthroposophical actor and attended study groups
where Rudolf Steiner was mentioned frequently. The Popeis a normal
bloke, a Polish guy who took the path that laid the Peter Stone, the
Petra mantle, on his shoulders. What about Tomberg? Tomberg entered
the Peter circle of the three circles of John/Peter and Paul.. Both
Tomberg and the Pope entered into the Peter mantle of faith based
knowledge after meeting Rudolf Steiner. Does Anthroposophy have a
clue to the reasons for Tomberg's decision? You tell me.

What we have are very superficial gobs of people who follow along
without the slightest understanding that Halos of saints and
purification of the Astral body is a normal path of spiritual
development. The 99% majority of mankind is clueless as to how the
astral body functions and what it might change into. Now the real
kicker is that when The Sun Being Christ united with
Zarathustra/Jesus… (Oh, don't even ask me to explain this mighty
chunk of wisdom to the Catholics.) He, the Christ, as an Elohim was
able to penetrate as far as the Spirit Self of Jesus. Between Buddha,
Zarathustra and Krishna, the aura of the Sun-Spirit, the Christ
appears at the Transfiguration speaking to Moses and Elijah in His
mighty Manas body of light. But who is asleep below unable to rise to
this Spirit-Self condition? You tell me.

It takes advancement of soul to recognize, transform and change the
astral body into a higher member of the human I AM, but it took an
enormous effort from East and West to unite and bring about the
shattering event of Golgotha and the Transfiguration and
Resurrection. This in pouring force of the gods Atma body is the
actual substance that brought about the higher genetic/spiritual
equation of the Resurrection Body, the Phantom. Certainly Tomberg
recognized these facts. Certainly the anthro-actor Pope does not. You
tell me.

But we can detect again in these most recent events a penetration by
the Catholic Church into the Aztec/Mexican mysteries that attempt to
bring band aids and lip service to forces that were betrayed long ago
by the quest for Gold and the Avarice of Philip the Fair. This
Beautification along with Canonization of someone who saw the Virgin
of Guadalupe are types of perceptions that remain riddled with false
understanding around the Spirit of Man and the Christ event. Here
also the rhythm that binds the Catholic Church to its scandals, the
Political betrayal of human rights and the infection of Avarice find
themselves sputtering in the time line of history that has had
devastating results through 666-1332-1998. The ripple of these events
did not stop because these dates were indicated as benchmark
culminating factors. The Babylonian Captivity of the Church and the
martyring of Spiritually fine human Beings continued once these
concrete betrayals were accomplished.

Current events are not so dry and impossible to see through as it
appears at first glance at the news. Common sense in the highest
meaning of the Michael School should be maintained even when it comes
to looking at our own Anthroposophical Community. That which passes
for interest in Anthroposophy does not immediately make for active
understanding of Michael Imaginations in our current time frame. IMO

Bradford





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