Hi Steven, I can not speak for anyone but myself, but this is NOT the old Mulatto group.I am not sure what other groups u are referring to, But this group seems to be more supportive then some of the groups I have actually joined lately. All I know is that I was very honored to be invited into a group that accepts me whole heartedly, since alot of "so called" multi racial groups" have one or more Pontificates who think their word is gospel.
So Steven. I dont know if you were invited or not, but, this is certainly not another "Mulatto group".
Michelle
Steven <pboyk12@...> wrote:
this question is for joan and victoria, or anyone else in the old mulatto group. is it still the way it was when i last checked in? it has been awhile. just curious.
Steven
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It's little more than a ghost town over there now. The porno people have taken over the links section and a few passers through introduce themselves every now and then, hoping for some company I guess. The owner doesn't bother much with the group but a while ago she tried to give ownership away. Looks like there were no takers. It's ashamed to see all that megabite space going to waste too. Mulatto has a 512 megabite capacity and they've used only 7% of it so far. Can you believe that?...I mean with all the posting we did over there. "Certain members" are still present which to me, makes it pointless to get involved again. I don't need the headaches. I think you may have missed that whole episode involving a member called "mi2pretty". It was just awful. That's all I can say. A guy that I know who is an Octoroon and waiting on his
license to pratice law, tried to got to bat for me and two other members who were being viciously attacked by this guy. And all of this because we acknowledged what we are and called ourselves Mulatto or Biracial, instead of "Black". This guy actually insisted that we call ourselves "mixedblack" or blackmixed". It was hard to believe that he wanted to have that kind of control over us. And yet, he had no respect for us. He claimed to be a multi-generational Mixie. But he seemed to even be uncertain of this, since he also called himself black at the same time. It was pure madness over there then.
We'll speak again later Steven. Take care.
Joan*******************
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this question is for joan and victoria, or anyone else in the old
mulatto group. is it still the way it was when i last checked in?
it has been awhile. just curious.
Steven
No group of mine would be quite the same without you. I'm very glad you're here with us.
This is nice isn't it? And everyone is so positive that in the months ahead, we're bound to have a great time.
I'm glad you mentioned the photo on our home page. That is actually a photograph of the *Garnet Stone*. It is a precious gem that has some interesting facts about it. I'm actually going to put together a page for our group on this valuable jewel, but more on that later.
I know that you'll be wanting to make some creative contributions of your own to our group. This time around, I'd like to do something special with the pages that you post on the group, such as create a more extensive companion site for American Mulatto. I know that I can count on your feedback in these endeavors.
Finally, I'd like to just say that I think you handled that little unpleasantness on your group TRC very nicely.
Look for your post later....
Yours,
Joan*****************
(audio) This one's for our newest members, Adrienne and Victoria
How nice of you to join us! I'm very glad that you did. And like you, I too look forward to gaining more incite and reflections on the experiences of other first-generational Mulattoes, Quadroons and Triracials.
My father is white and my mother is black. It's taken a long time for me to finally gain a lasting sense of *peace* about what I am and a better understanding of just how my appearance has affected my life. And that is just one of many incites I hope to share with you and the other members.
So, hopefully we can all *exhale* and enjoy each other's company here at "American Mulatto".
Sincerely,
Joan*******************
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I read "Quicksand". It's a great book and I won't ruin the storyline
but all I have to say is that it's an EXCITING read!
I think it's wonderful that you're a writer of historical fiction.
I've written some papers in the past (mainly non-fiction) and even
though I think the process is hard, nothing beats the feeling when
you have the completed work in your hands. It's terrific! :0)
I'd also like to recommend a great book: "Stolen Lives" by Malika
Oufkir; it's not Mixed-race oriented but it was written about a
Moroccan woman's and her family's trials in prisons for more than 20
years and what they did to survive it. It's my all-time favorite
book because it really reveals the strength of this woman and her
family's spirit. It's an incredible read.
take care and have a good afternoon!
*.*Victoria*.*
--- In americanmulatto@yahoogroups.com, "Elizabeth"
<michigan_woman@j...> wrote:
> Hi Joan,
> Thank you for your post and also thank you for the information on
the
> book Quicksand I haven't read that book. I will be sure to find
that
> book and read it. As for me I mostly write fiction usually
historical
> and I in most cases use biracial women in my stories, I also add a
> lot of myself into my writing. I also enjoy writing poetry and
short
> stories. I would love to be able to write all my stories by hand
and
> on paper but my handswriting isn't the best also I have some nerve
> problems with my hands so I mostly use the keyboard. I wish I did
> have wonderful writing skills because I am the type of person
that's
> very personal in everything I do. I would enjoy being able to
write
> long letters by hand it's so much more personal than using the
> computer, still I have found ways that I can still personalize my
> letters and stories so that I come trough. Where do you live? if I
> may ask? I always enjoy making friends and I enjoy reading very
much.
> Quicksand sounds like a wonderful book I can't wait till I can
read
> it! I am most proud of who I am and I love making the women in my
> stories just as proud. I am happy to have been evited to join this
> group. Well again thank you so much for your post Joan, I look
> forward to getting more from you. Take care!...Post again soon....
>
> Elizabeth
Hi Joan!
Glad to be back on the boards; thanks SO much for the invite. This
group looks totally cool; I just love the picture on the homepage.
Everything looks so nice.
For the members who don't know my racial background: Mom is Biracial
(half-Black, half-White) and my dad was White. So I'm a first-
generational Quadroon.
I'd also like to say HI to all of the other AM members; I look
forward to talking with all of you.
Take care guys and have a good afternoon!
Sincerely,
*.*Victoria*.*
HEY! Just wanted 2 thank u for the invite. I'm happy to accept. I'm a
mixed nut and proud! My mother is white and my father is black and
alil cherokee. I have always been fascinated by mixtures in
race...its beautiful and very interesting the way the mixtures come
out. Anyway thanx again for allowing me 2 b apart of your group. I
look forward to the incites that will b shared! GOD BLESS!
***ADRIENNE***
and I hope things are going nicely for you this Sunday. Thank you for your letter and you're quite welcome for the invite.
It sounds like you have the right idea about writing. There are enough "tragic Mulatto" stories to last us a lifetime. Stories should become more well balanced now with female Biracial characters who are dignified and victorious. If you've ever seen a movie called "Kings Go Forth" you'd see again how right you are in how you're developing your female characters.
In this movie, Natalie Wood plays a white-looking Mulatto who is so embarrased by what she is (1940's style), that she tries to commit suicide after a white lover finds out and dumps her. There is this climatic scene where the Biracial character's white mother, reveals to the (other) white man who really loves her daughter (played by Frank Sinatra), that she is not white, but has a black father. Frank takes it a lot better than the Mulatto character does. She nearly falls to pieces in front of him while "confessing" this. And later when the man that she really loves (played by "good-looking" Tony Curtis) admits that he was just using her for kicks, she runs off and tries to drown herself. I think they should have drowned the movie instead. But for the shock of it all, you just
have to see this turkeyfilm. So, like I said Elizabeth, I think you're definitely on to something.
I'll be moving to Central New York later this summer after being away from my home state for too many years. Orginially I'm from New York City (born/Manhattan, raised/Queens). Living in Hampton Roads Virginia these years, has not been altogether good for me. But I came down here with my late husband who died several years ago at age 34. His work brought us here but since his death, I had been thinking more and more that there is nothing here for me and my daughter. So I did plenty of research of my targeted area and decided to head...."North" I'll be purchasing rental properties there and entering the landlord business. So wish me luck 'cause I'm sure I'm gonna need it.
Not long ago, I went to my future home in Central New York on business, and on only my second day there, an Italian man asked me out to dinner--which is something that rarely happens here in Virginia. I soon picked up on the fact that Central New Yorkers don't exactly know what I am as them Southerners often do. I don't know what this man thought I was, but there was no hesitation in the manner he approached me. At the time we were both getting things out of our cars in the hotel's parking lot. Also, we had both gotten a couple of "dents" on our cars during the trip up and we were having a friendly conversation about it. I turned him down for the dinner invitation though. But Central New York is going to undoubtly be a lot different than Virginia. The only thing that I'm concerned about is all that snow that I'll
have to get used to all over again.
Well Elizabeth, I've got more packing and cleaning to do, but I'll be talking to everyone on the group later on today. Stay well!
Hi Joan, Thank you for your post and also thank you for the information on the book Quicksand I haven't read that book. I will be sure to find that book and read it. As for me I mostly write fiction usually historical and I in most cases use biracial women in my stories, I also add a lot of myself into my writing. I also enjoy writing poetry and short stories. I would love to be able to write all my stories by hand and on paper but my handswriting isn't the best also I have some nerve problems with my hands so I mostly use the keyboard. I wish I did have wonderful writing skills because I am the type of person that's very personal in everything I do. I would enjoy being able to write long letters by hand it's so much more personal than using the computer, still I have found ways that I can still personalize my letters and stories so that I come trough. Where do you live? if I may ask? I always enjoy
making friends and I enjoy reading very much. Quicksand sounds like a wonderful book I can't wait till I can read it! I am most proud of who I am and I love making the women in my stories just as proud. I am happy to have been evited to join this group. Well again thank you so much for your post Joan, I look forward to getting more from you. Take care!...Post again soon....
Elizabeth
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Hi Joan,
Thank you for your post and also thank you for the information on the
book Quicksand I haven't read that book. I will be sure to find that
book and read it. As for me I mostly write fiction usually historical
and I in most cases use biracial women in my stories, I also add a
lot of myself into my writing. I also enjoy writing poetry and short
stories. I would love to be able to write all my stories by hand and
on paper but my handswriting isn't the best also I have some nerve
problems with my hands so I mostly use the keyboard. I wish I did
have wonderful writing skills because I am the type of person that's
very personal in everything I do. I would enjoy being able to write
long letters by hand it's so much more personal than using the
computer, still I have found ways that I can still personalize my
letters and stories so that I come trough. Where do you live? if I
may ask? I always enjoy making friends and I enjoy reading very much.
Quicksand sounds like a wonderful book I can't wait till I can read
it! I am most proud of who I am and I love making the women in my
stories just as proud. I am happy to have been evited to join this
group. Well again thank you so much for your post Joan, I look
forward to getting more from you. Take care!...Post again soon....
Elizabeth
Michelle, I second that emotion. You're welcome for the invite.
Joan*********
"I have been in a few other groups dealing with multi racial people, which is fine, however, their pov may not necessarily represent my own experiences. I simply would like a group where I know we have had many common experiences, issues, problems etcs."
I just wanted to say hello to those of you in this group "Americanmulatto@... have been in a few other groups dealing with multi racial people, which is fine, however, their pov may not necessarily represent my own experiences. I simply would like a group where I know we have had many common experiences, issues, problems etcs. So I want to thank you for the invite and look forward to getting to know all of you. I have bi racial (black/white) and will tell them about this site, however since it is somewhat exclusive, they can decide to e-mail the group. I was fortunate have biracial cousins, though we still battled our issues in life and still do. Well, have a good day, and I look forward to making some great friends here. bye, Michelle
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It's so great to have you here in our company. Thank you for joining. Please feel to kick back, relax and enjoy yourself. Got topics? Don't hesitate. Chances are, someone else would love to talk about the same thing too.
You mentioned in your introductory letter that you are an aspiring writer, and I'd like to say that I wish you much success in this field. I don't know what type of writing you do, but I'm aware that presently, greater numbers of black/white Biracials are taking pencil & paper into their own hands, and writing literature that *they* feel more fairly represents us.
I'd say that it's necessary too. We do need more worthwhile and true-to-life stories written with mixed race themes and characters.
I always like to visualize a novel or biography I've read in the ultimate medium--which to me is the Silver Screen. In doing this, I can envision different books about our people that I feel would make movies about us more compelling and exciting for the public.
Perhaps you and other members in our group has read a novel by a Mulatto novelist named Nella Larsen.
Nella Larsen wrote two books in the 1920's that positioned her as one of the best fiction writers of that era. One of them was a book entitled Quicksand (1928).
Quicksand has stood out in my mind for years, as being one of the most engaging and memorable stories ever written about a female Mulatto character.
The novel takes you on a journey with the principle character named Helga Crane. Her journey starts down South, where she is a teacher at a school for "Negroes" (Naxos). But it doesn't stay there for long. Disillusioned and feeling empty by the life she's living, Helga Crane decides to chuck it all and leave. Heading North, (which for just about every "Negro" at that time meant, Harlem) Helga officially begins a journey that will take her across the seas to her white mother's homeland in Scandinavia (where she is treated like a princess and is regarded by the local men as a great catch), then back again to America (where she ends up a tragic Mulatto).
I didn't like the ending of the story. What I did like was Larsen's very intimate yet aloof use of narrative descriptions. The technique that she used, gave the character of Helga Crane a more intangible aurora...as if Helga was on the outside, looking in at her own life being played out before her. The effect was good I thought.
If any of you are interested in the book, the following links will tell you more about Quicksand and it's author.
Elizabeth, do you like to draft and do your rewriting with pencil & paper or do you prefer working at a keyboard?
I just wanted to say hello to those of you in this
group "Americanmulatto@... have been in a few other
groups dealing with multi racial people, which is fine, however,
their pov may not necessarily represent my own experiences. I simply
would like a group where I know we have had many common experiences,
issues, problems etcs. So I want to thank you for the invite and look
forward to getting to know all of you. I have bi racial (black/white)
and will tell them about this site, however since it is somewhat
exclusive, they can decide to e-mail the group. I was fortunate have
biracial cousins, though we still battled our issues in life and
still do. Well, have a good day, and I look forward to making some
great friends here.
bye,
Michelle
And "Welcome" to the group. It's great to have you here! Perhaps this is what we needed all along. I remembered what you said way back on the old group "Mulatto", and I admired you for standing firm in how you felt. That took courage. Especially with some of those vampires there that were ready to take a bite out of you. In contrast, I want everyone here to really feel relax and free. As I said in the invitation, this may actually be the first group of it's kind (among Yahoo groups anyway). I'm sure your contribution will help to make American Mulatto a great success. Congratulation with your move to Dallas and your new position. That
fabulous. And a hearty welcome to you again Steven!
how's it going?
it's been a long time. thanks, joan, for the invitation. it comes
at a good time. things have been a whirlwind for me for the last
fifteen mos. or so. but i have just moved to dallas where i am
about to begin teaching and coaching. and no, i haven't met any
mulatto women yet. :) i'm sure God will put the right girl in
front of me whenever He decides i'm ready for her. but i will try
to be more active in this group. i think i can be more assured of
not being berated for sharing my opinions in a group of this
nature. anywhoo, hopefully i will be chatting with all of you soon.
Steven
I think the key word here is *necessity*. So you hit it right on the mark with your question. But *necessity* is also the answer to your question. I felt it was necessary to create a more ideal setting, in which first-generational Mulattoes and Quadroons could communicate. Besides--it just feels right. And judging from the positive response from members, I think it feels right to them too. There were also a couple of personal reasons that I thought starting the group right about now might be a good idea. But the invitation (below) that I sent to you, probably says it best.
I'm writing to introduce you to something which I feel is both timely, and also a step in the right direction.
I've begun an online forum specifically created for "first-generational" Mulattoes and Quadroons.
Drawing upon the experiences I've had, interacting with people on mixed groups on the internet over the past two years, I've come to the conclusion that establishing a forum that is open *solely* to first-generational Biracial people, is perhaps our best way for the majority of us who are Biracial, to use the internet to move in a *positive* direction in establishing a stronger, more stable support base. This group may actually be the first of its kind on the web.
In case you were wondering what "first-generational" is, it's someone who is the offspring of one white parent and one black parent. Or the offspring of one white parent and one black&white mixed race parent.
Most groups on the internet permit people of all different racial/ethnic mixtures to participate in their multiracial forums. And that's fine. However, I haven't seen any other online group that is wholly suitable to not just the needs, but also, the desire of so many first-generational Mulattoes and Quads.
I believe that this group which is semi-private (non-members cannot read messages or access files) and membership selective, can provide a much more relaxed, pleasant and freer atmosphere. An atmosphere in which it's members can share views, feelings, hopes, fears and experiences with others who understand what it is like to walk a mile in their shoes (corns and all) :-)
With that said, it is my sincere hope that you will say "yes" to this invitation to join "AM" (American Mulatto).
Thank you so much for joining "AM" (American Mulatto). It's good to have you here with us. And I trust you will make friends here and have a terrific time doing so. So thanks again for choosing "yes" and feel free to introduce anything that you'd like to talk about!
Members, here are the corresponding "search result" page numbers for all of the children there were listed in my last letter. I'm sorry that the links didn't work. Sometimes that happens when the links are placed too close together. But by looking at the numbers next to the names of the kids, you can go page by page and see them.
Thank you.
Joan*************
Here are the Kids again. Click "here" then go page by page by numbers next to their names. Numbers on the website are listed at the bottom and top of pages.
Paxton & Brice (on 131-140)
Jessica & Lashae (221-230)
Lawton (601-610)
Logan (601-610)
Asia w/brother Davante (151-160)
Ryan & Brandon (141-150)
Ronnell & DeAndre (141-150)
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Some time ago, I came across something on the internet that I thought would be worth sharing with you. I went on a website where a lot of children are featured, who have been place up for adoption. There were photos of the kids, and before long I ended up gazing at one little face after another.
I noticed that most of the kids I saw were either black or white. But there were also a sizable number of black/white Biracial kids too. I gathered that nearly all of them were first-generational Mulattoes and some were no doubt Quadroons as well.
Several of the kids who were obviously Biracial, were classified as "white". While others who also appeared to be Biracials were classified as "black".
I wondered if most of these children would ever end up being adopted since so many of them were older children. Life is tough enough without having to grow up without a real family.
Anyway, here are links to just a few of the Biracial kids on the "Adopt Us Kids" website. If you will click on to their names below on this page, then scroll down to their photos, you can read more information about these children in need of parents who will love them.
Hi All I am Elizabeth I am 24 will be 25 later this month...I just
joined and was happy to get the invite! :-) I look forward to making
some great friends here. I live in Warren, Michigan I am married no
kids at the moment and trying very hard to be a writer. Well take
care all I'll post again soon I am glad to be part of the group!!..
Elizabeth..
I am delighted that you decided to join! Of course you are first-generational and this group was created for people like yourself. I actually should have mentioned that in the description, since so many of us have Native American blood too. I assumed it was understood by all. So, what distinguishes us is that we all have one white parent and one black, or mixed/black parent.
I'm glad to see that so far the response is so positive. Do you remember Steven from the old group "Mulatto"? His mother is white and I remember how strongly he felt about ties with other first-generational Mulattoes. I wrote him a letter last night and invited him to join us. We haven't heard from him in a long time but I hope he does join us here. I can remember how he complained that he couldn't find any Mulatto women to date where he was in Texas. If he joins, in time he may be able to find a female on our group he can confide. (Wouldn't you know that I'm just a little match-maker at heart)
Hi Joan! I like your idea of a first generation group. Truth is my father is not a Blk and White biracial he's a black and Cherokee biracial. I hope that doesn't matter. I'm the first white and black generation -that is triracial though. My father identifys solely as Black even though he is also Cherokee. I hope I can stil join in here. I don't think there is that much of a difference between a biracial and a triracial we're still in between races. I think it would be interesting to hear from everyone what it is like being a first generational person. Steph
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I took the liberty of forwarding your introductory letter to the group since you intended it to be posted there. Hope you don't mind.
What you were honest enough to say in your letter (about first-generational mulattoes having something of their own on the web), is probably how many, of us inwardly feel. Only some of us may be afraid of being perceived as "politically incorrect" if we openly express it. Well, I think it's time to put that kind of thinking in moth balls and tucked away in a closet. Especially when you consider how some of are being insulted more often these days by others. I'm happy to see that you expressed yourself in this way as this is how I feel too.
I've got lots to tell you guys and I'll be off and on, as often as possible, while I'm also busy gathering members. I hope your time spent here at "AM" will be as enjoyable as possible.
Joan***************************
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"I wanted to inform you that its very hard to read with the dark red and black text. Thank you for inviting me here. I really wanted to have a group where only first gens mulattoes are. For those of you that dont know me my mother is black and my father is white. For many years I have been debating within myself what to call myself. My mother and my sister (who is also black) keeps saying I should call myself black. My mother thinks I am "confused" cause I dont identify this way. At first i did because they told me to and I was tired of argueing withmy mother over and over but now I say im mixed/biracial. Cause thats what I am. These groups have helped me a lot and I hope to hear from you all soon."
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Hi Joan! I like your idea of a first generation group. Truth is my
father is not a Blk and White biracial he's a black and Cherokee
biracial. I hope that doesn't matter. I'm the first white and black
generation -that is triracial though. My father identifys solely as
Black even though he is also Cherokee. I hope I can stil join in
here. I don't think there is that much of a difference between a
biracial and a triracial we're still in between races. I think it
would be interesting to hear from everyone what it is like being a
first generational person. Steph
You were right about the dark wine color. I think this light beige really opens up the forum (open for business). And you can use just about any color font with this background too.
You might want to re-post your letter that you emailed me. The address for posting on the group is: americanmulatto@yahoogroups.com I'm very glad to see you here!
To all the new members of "AM" (American Mulatto)...
Thank you so much for joining. It's good to have you all here.
My hope is that this one will turn out to be a positive and welcoming place...a place where you can just be yourself completely and feel confident that you are in a place among friends where you belong.
And after all, that isn't so much to ask for.
Sincerely,
Joan**********************
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