Tom, Good addition. It is a remarkable report. Not many State Senators in New York were brave enough to investigate local mafioso in the 1980s, particularly...
Hi Alex Yes, the report is very good. I have another, from February 1991, "Illegal Dumping in New York State Who's Enforcing the Law?" by the NY State...
A very interesting time for the region. As the managing editor for two weekly newspapers in Dutchess and Putnam Counties (1989-1992), I also investigated and...
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Jul 2, 2010 3:26 pm
Browning-Ferris International went out of business in the early 2000s. When the NYC Trade Waste Commission was trying to get national competition to enter the...
Great news. Although I have a passion for researching organized crime, I don't want these crime organisation guys to be running things. The books and...
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Jul 2, 2010 7:34 pm
There isn't much of a garment district left in NYC. If you get a chance, see the HBO documentary Schmatta. Most of production has gone overseas to Asia. The...
On that point, I believe Hinchey has pointed out that large corporations in the waste hauling industry have done little that should cause us to prefer them to...
The main point of debate is whether most of the "victims" are in reality victims. The OC literature is replete with cases in which employers have either...
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Jul 3, 2010 9:19 pm
Really? What about the 30% drop in prices for commercial waste hauling in New York City since the late 1990s? The end of violent intimidation toward customers?...
Good points. Is there anyting in writing (articles) on this??? ... From: alex.hortis <alex.hortis@...> Subject: [americanmafia] Re: Hinchey Report To:...
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Jul 5, 2010 8:09 pm
I'm quite familiar with that literature. I'm a big believer in market forces influencing corruption and organized crime. I don't think it holds with waste...
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Jul 5, 2010 8:09 pm
There is some literature on the kinds of industries that are captured by local mafia. I'm sure you're familiar with it. I'm not sure about the postindustrial...
Alex, no, I believe that in the 1990s cases, as described by Jacobs, there really was/is a big improvement. Also, that union trusteeships, while not perfect,...
One query. What were the circumstasnces in which waste hauling in NYC was transferred in the early 1950s from the municipality to private enterprise? Why...
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Jul 8, 2010 6:23 pm
They were transferred as a cost-savings measures. Public waste hauling for commercial businesses was viewed as an expensive subsidy to private interests....
In the UK, I don't know the system is an depth. But so far as I'm aware, there is only one carrier per town, and they have to submit to a competitive...
A similar bidding process was in place in upstate New York counties/municipalities during the period Hinchey was writing about. The problem was that...
Are there any books with details of the LA mob, especially Steve Cino and the Caci's? Mike Rizzo Author, historian, researcher "They Call Me Korney" about...
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Jul 9, 2010 9:05 pm
What you're talking about here is organizing a cartel to restrict competition. The problem that cartels have is with their instability. There is a strong...
Good answer, Tom. One thing that I have noticed is that to run a cartel doesn't, in other contextsm require the Mafia. In Europe, to give one example,...
Yeah, I guess... but - hypothetically - this doesn't have to get to the point where we have a recognizable cartel. The term cartel includes a level of...
Not necessarily. History is full of monopolies or cartels in the business world that last and last, probably as long as the Mafia one. In fact, because of...
This is the area where I have trouble with the theory espoused by the NY State OC Task Force reports, which I have read. I know that there have been many...
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Jul 12, 2010 3:36 pm
Dave, you're knocking down your own strawman. When has anyone said that the Mafia is the only illegal cartel? I challenge you to come up with any quote from...
No, I was referring to the concrete cartel, which seemed to have been formed in the late 1970s. I take the point about the garbage industry, but the argument...
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Jul 13, 2010 12:51 pm
I just get nervous when people criticize writers by talking about their "assumptions" without actually quoting those writer's works. The NY OC task force never...
Well, I do know of the building industry in this country. (In fact, I searched The Times specifically because of this interest) and since the 1950s at least...
The July 2010 issue of Informer: The Journal of American Mafia History is now available in its print edition. Visit http://magcloud.com/browse/Issue/94457 to...
The American Mafia has reportedly viewed Miami and Las Vegas as "open cities" (cities that cannot be absorbed into the geographic territory of or dominated by...
