From: mrheavy_2000 <mrheavy_2000@...>
Subject: [americanmafia] Paul Kelly/I.L.A.
To: americanmafia@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 5:42 PM

Any history as to how Paul Kelly formed this union or local of an established union? Was it a Manhattan union or did it cover many areas in the NY/NJ area?

--- In americanmafia@ yahoogroups. com, David Critchley <ukthesis@.. .> wrote:
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> Yes, I did try on one of my visits to Chambers Street to find mention of Vaccarelli and that address in East Harlem, but nothing.  So we have to rely on the word of Thompson and Raymond.
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> For what it's worth, a Lomonte relative contacted me several years ago.  He was clear in his own mind that there was a cousin relationship with the Morellos; that's what the family believed.  It's plausible, since quite a number of inhabitants from Corleone were related and the Sicilian Mafia cosche, according to researchers, were based on the kinship link.  So it wouldn't surprise me if there wasn't a familial tie somewhere along the line, even if not yet proven.
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> As to Kelly's connections, he seems to have largely pursued a role after about 1905 that left behind most of his underworld friends.  His foes posited that while in the ILA, he extorted off the longshore rank and file, though as usual this is at the level of allegations. 
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> He does seem to have had a following among the Italian longshore workers, probably as the first Italian to break through, in the ILA, the Irish hegemony over leadership positions.  So there was some ethnic pride that at last, some of the Italians on the waterfront were represented by their own man.  His "maverick" image may also have attracted dissident elements.
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> A complicated character indeed.  Many unanswered questions.
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> Subject: [americanmafia] Re: The Five Points
> To: americanmafia@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Monday, 6 July, 2009, 2:43 PM
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> There is some indication that the Morellos had involvement in a plasterers' union before 1910. Secret Service records indicate that this is how Morello made the acquaintance of the Lomonte brothers, who ran the association, and who do not appear (as is often supposed) to have been directly related to the Morello family.
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> However I have found no mention of any link between the Morellos and any other union, nor suggestion that the Morellos had any involvement in the waterfront. Dave C has already commented on reports that Paul Kelly lived in a Morello-owned property when he moved uptown to Harlem. This statement comes from Thompson and Raymond's "Gang Rule in New York" (1940), and while not implausible it has not yet been confirmed in any other source, such as real estate records.
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> --- In americanmafia@ yahoogroups. com, "mrheavy_2000" <mrheavy_2000@ ...> wrote:
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> > Also, when Paul Kelly was in the ILA, was he doing so in alliance with the Morellos? Was he ousted by others later, Mineo's maybe?
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> > .--- In americanmafia@ yahoogroups. com, "Ryan" <ryan_12177@ > wrote:
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> > > What proof do we have that Luciano was a member of the Five Points gang? I've read it over and over again but have never seen the origin of the story.
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