Thanks for the link, John.  I was surprised at how inexpensive most of the 38 mm
Loki reloads were.  I never thought I would exceed a 29/180-240 system; now I
may need to eventually invest in a 38 mm motor mount-equipped flagship!

Off-topic:  things didn't look good on last night's forecast for Saturday - 60%
chance of rain?  Can you put in a good word to the Higher Power?

-Stu

--- On Wed, 9/30/09, jal3net <john@...> wrote:

From: jal3net <john@...>
Subject: [alamo_rocketeers] Quickburst Products
To: alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 8:54 AM






 





                   I had a message from David Bacheldur of Quickburst. He is
going to be coming this way in a few weeks and offered to bring any merchandise
anyone orders to save on shipping.



This includes Loki Reasearch motors and hardware, igniters, ematches, quickdip
etc.



A link to his site is here: http://www.quickbur st.net/index. htm



You will need the proper certification for the motor reloads but the igniters do
not need a LEUP.



Let me know if you want to order anything.



JAL




























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Morning, everyone, in checking the radar, it looks like it's been raining
over where we meet.  I presume it's been called off?



   _____

From: alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jal3net
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 8:54 AM
To: alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [alamo_rocketeers] Quickburst Products





I had a message from David Bacheldur of Quickburst. He is going to be coming
this way in a few weeks and offered to bring any merchandise anyone orders
to save on shipping.

This includes Loki Reasearch motors and hardware, igniters, ematches,
quickdip etc.

A link to his site is here: http://www.quickbur
<http://www.quickburst.net/index.htm> st.net/index.htm

You will need the proper certification for the motor reloads but the
igniters do not need a LEUP.

Let me know if you want to order anything.

JAL



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I just got back from the field. Its a sodden mess. Its off for today and
I have to head to the hospital now for a member of my congregation.

JAL

________________________________

From: alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Todd
Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 9:16 AM
To: alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [alamo_rocketeers] Quickburst Products




Morning, everyone, in checking the radar, it looks like it's been
raining
over where we meet. I presume it's been called off?

_____

From: alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:alamo_rocketeers%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:alamo_rocketeers%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of jal3net
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 8:54 AM
To: alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:alamo_rocketeers%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [alamo_rocketeers] Quickburst Products

I had a message from David Bacheldur of Quickburst. He is going to be
coming
this way in a few weeks and offered to bring any merchandise anyone
orders
to save on shipping.

This includes Loki Reasearch motors and hardware, igniters, ematches,
quickdip etc.

A link to his site is here: http://www.quickbur
<http://www.quickburst.net/index.htm
<http://www.quickburst.net/index.htm> > st.net/index.htm

You will need the proper certification for the motor reloads but the
igniters do not need a LEUP.

Let me know if you want to order anything.

JAL

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Remember: there is no launch this weekend. We will be going to the
cornfield classic the next weekend.

JAL

________________________________

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Guys,
 
Does anyone have a G80 or G79 29mm motor with a short delay?  I checked Rebel
and HobbyTown, and the shortest delays they have are 7 sec.  I'll need one for
my demo launch (the Mercury Redstone) at the Cornfield Classic on Saturday.
 
Thanks,
 
Stu

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Evening Stu, for G's, I have 2 G77-4R's and 1 G40-4W.  I really only need of
the G's for Saturday (for the new G Force rocket I recently assembled), the
Arcas uses an F (though I could use a G in it as well - if I don't mind
walking).  So, you can take your pick of the G's and I'll use what you
don't.  I would imagine there will only be enough time for us to do a single
launch per rocket......

   _____

From: alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Stuart Young
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 8:10 AM
To: alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [alamo_rocketeers] Need a motor




Guys,

Does anyone have a G80 or G79 29mm motor with a short delay?  I checked
Rebel and HobbyTown, and the shortest delays they have are 7 sec.  I'll need
one for my demo launch (the Mercury Redstone) at the Cornfield Classic on
Saturday.

Thanks,

Stu

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Thanks, Todd!  I'll buy one of those G77-4s from you at the event.  How much do
you want for it?
 
Thanks,
 
Stu

--- On Tue, 10/13/09, Todd <tschroeder@...> wrote:


From: Todd <tschroeder@...>
Subject: RE: [alamo_rocketeers] Need a motor
To: alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, October 13, 2009, 8:17 PM


 



Evening Stu, for G's, I have 2 G77-4R's and 1 G40-4W. I really only need of
the G's for Saturday (for the new G Force rocket I recently assembled), the
Arcas uses an F (though I could use a G in it as well - if I don't mind
walking). So, you can take your pick of the G's and I'll use what you
don't. I would imagine there will only be enough time for us to do a single
launch per rocket......

_____

From: alamo_rocketeers@ yahoogroups. com
[mailto:alamo_rocketeers@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Stuart Young
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 8:10 AM
To: alamo_rocketeers@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [alamo_rocketeers] Need a motor

Guys,

Does anyone have a G80 or G79 29mm motor with a short delay? I checked
Rebel and HobbyTown, and the shortest delays they have are 7 sec. I'll need
one for my demo launch (the Mercury Redstone) at the Cornfield Classic on
Saturday.

Thanks,

Stu

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$18 will do (just under what I paid for it).  I've attached the last order I
used to get some of these.  Hobbylinc used to have them for about $17.50,
but like everything they bumped it up a buc.  I've searched and searched and
I keep coming back to these guys.  Of course, it means I have to wait until
I have enough to buy to make the shipping worthwhile.  Although, with these
guys, it's actually pretty reasonable....  Considering.

   _____

From: alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Stuart Young
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 8:26 PM
To: alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [alamo_rocketeers] Need a motor




Thanks, Todd!  I'll buy one of those G77-4s from you at the event.  How much
do you want for it?

Thanks,

Stu

--- On Tue, 10/13/09, Todd <tschroeder@satx.
<mailto:tschroeder%40satx.rr.com> rr.com> wrote:

From: Todd <tschroeder@satx. <mailto:tschroeder%40satx.rr.com> rr.com>
Subject: RE: [alamo_rocketeers] Need a motor
To: alamo_rocketeers@ <mailto:alamo_rocketeers%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, October 13, 2009, 8:17 PM



Evening Stu, for G's, I have 2 G77-4R's and 1 G40-4W. I really only need of
the G's for Saturday (for the new G Force rocket I recently assembled), the
Arcas uses an F (though I could use a G in it as well - if I don't mind
walking). So, you can take your pick of the G's and I'll use what you
don't. I would imagine there will only be enough time for us to do a single
launch per rocket......

_____

From: alamo_rocketeers@ yahoogroups. com
[mailto:alamo_rocketeers@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Stuart Young
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 8:10 AM
To: alamo_rocketeers@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [alamo_rocketeers] Need a motor

Guys,

Does anyone have a G80 or G79 29mm motor with a short delay? I checked
Rebel and HobbyTown, and the shortest delays they have are 7 sec. I'll need
one for my demo launch (the Mercury Redstone) at the Cornfield Classic on
Saturday.

Thanks,

Stu

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That sounds good, Todd.  Thanks!

--- On Tue, 10/13/09, Todd <tschroeder@...> wrote:


From: Todd <tschroeder@...>
Subject: RE: [alamo_rocketeers] Need a motor
To: alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, October 13, 2009, 8:50 PM


 



$18 will do (just under what I paid for it). I've attached the last order I
used to get some of these. Hobbylinc used to have them for about $17.50,
but like everything they bumped it up a buc. I've searched and searched and
I keep coming back to these guys. Of course, it means I have to wait until
I have enough to buy to make the shipping worthwhile. Although, with these
guys, it's actually pretty reasonable.. .. Considering.

_____

From: alamo_rocketeers@ yahoogroups. com
[mailto:alamo_rocketeers@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Stuart Young
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 8:26 PM
To: alamo_rocketeers@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [alamo_rocketeers] Need a motor

Thanks, Todd! I'll buy one of those G77-4s from you at the event. How much
do you want for it?

Thanks,

Stu

--- On Tue, 10/13/09, Todd <tschroeder@ satx.
<mailto:tschroeder% 40satx.rr. com> rr.com> wrote:

From: Todd <tschroeder@ satx. <mailto:tschroeder% 40satx.rr. com> rr.com>
Subject: RE: [alamo_rocketeers] Need a motor
To: alamo_rocketeers@ <mailto:alamo_ rocketeers% 40yahoogroups. com>
yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, October 13, 2009, 8:17 PM

Evening Stu, for G's, I have 2 G77-4R's and 1 G40-4W. I really only need of
the G's for Saturday (for the new G Force rocket I recently assembled), the
Arcas uses an F (though I could use a G in it as well - if I don't mind
walking). So, you can take your pick of the G's and I'll use what you
don't. I would imagine there will only be enough time for us to do a single
launch per rocket......

_____

From: alamo_rocketeers@ yahoogroups. com
[mailto:alamo_ rocketeers@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Stuart Young
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 8:10 AM
To: alamo_rocketeers@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [alamo_rocketeers] Need a motor

Guys,

Does anyone have a G80 or G79 29mm motor with a short delay? I checked
Rebel and HobbyTown, and the shortest delays they have are 7 sec. I'll need
one for my demo launch (the Mercury Redstone) at the Cornfield Classic on
Saturday.

Thanks,

Stu

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Hello everyone.

I'm sorry to have been uncommunicative lately. I've had way too many deaths at
the church and I still have a few in the hospital. To keep things extra special,
my annual charge conference is tonight. Methodists reject purgatory but we had
to replace it with something; chrage conference paperwork.

The cornfield classic is this Saturday. I hope everyone can make it.

I can give rides to some who want them. Let me know and we can discuss pickup
times and locations.

The event starts at 9 am but there is a captain's meeting at 830. I am posting
the info I got right below:

====================================
Hi John,

That sounds wonderful.  We plan to have the Captains meeting at 0830 with a
lunch start of 0900.  Demo launches will be at the end of the events close to
noon.  We will provide a continental breakfast and lunch for our judges.  Like
last year, I would like you and at least one more Alamo Rocketeer to serve as
the official timers for the duration events as well as help check rockets for
safety prior to launch.  Below is the current ROE participants will use.

Thanks again!

RULES FOR MODEL ROCKETRY COMPETITION

Safety: The Rocketry Meet will be conducted in accordance with the National
Association of Rocketry Safety Code.  All team members, coaches and spectators
must follow the instructions of the Range Officer, Colonel Glenn Larsen. Failure
to do so will result in the team's disqualification from the rocket meet. We
will allow all teams a few minutes between each event to recover their rockets.
Please do not let team members to proceed until the range officer gives the okay
to recover your rockets.

Construction and Appearance:  Before launching, all rockets will be given safety
check for sturdiness, proper construction, and fin alignment.  If a rocket does
not meet safety standards, it will not be allowed to enter.  Rockets must be
intact upon landing to qualify for judging.  Each rocket must be a minimum of
12" (inches) in length with the exception of the Mosquito Rocket. All contest
rockets must be painted.  Rockets may be of any color.

Recovery Systems:  All rockets must have an operational recovery system.    A
complete deployment of the parachute recovery system is where the parachute
comes completely out and fully opens.  A complete deployment of the streamer
recovery system is where the entire streamer length comes out of the rocket
body. There will be no Helo and/or tumble recovery systems allowed in any
events.

Launch Pad:  Each team must to bring a launch pad to the meet for their rockets.

Team Size:  Each team will have two (2) entrants for each event.

Event/Launching Categories:

Altitude- A measurement of how high the rocket goes up into the air before it
starts it's decent. [Two (2) rockets will be launched in this category and the
average of the two rockets will be the score.] [No larger than a B-6-4 engine
can be used.]

Parachute Duration- The time that the Rocket stays in the air from time of
launch until the rocket touches down or can no longer be seen. [Two (2) rockets
will be Launched in this category and the average of the 2 rockets will be your
score.] [No larger than a B-6-4 engine can be used in this event.]

Streamer Duration- The time that the Rocket stays in the air from time of launch
until the rocket touches down or can no longer be seen. [Two (2) rockets will be
Launched in this category and the average of the 2 rockets will be your score.]
[No larger than a B-6-4 engine can be used in this event.]

Spot landing- In this event there will be three categories 30, 65, 100 meters.
Two (2) rockets will be launched for each distance. The average of the 2 rockets
will be your score. You may use any type of recovery system (streamer or
parachute.)  During this event 6 teams will launch at the same time. Once all
teams have fired their rocket, one team member will go and stand by their team's
rocket which will then be measured. (No larger than an A-8-3 engine will be used
in this event.)

Best Rocket- Will be judged by how the rocket is designed, built, painted and
detailed scheme. An important criterion is how professional it looks. The rocket
does not have to be launched in any order categories. (Only 1 rocket in this
category per team)

Mosquito Drag Racing- All rockets will be launched at the same time. One team
member from each team will have 2 minutes to go and find their rocket. When the
whistle is blown, you may pick up your rocket and run back to the designated
finish line. This event will be judged for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place trophies.

Exhibition- This is the show off event. Teams may use one or two stage designs
with no larger than a C class engine, larger entries require prior approval due
to the proximity of a municipal airfield. The rocket must be recovered to be
scored. Random Judges from different schools or a distinguished honorary guest
may judge the best rocket. Awards will be handed out for 1st, 2nd; 3rd.

Misfires - If the make-up shot for the misfired rocket also misfires, the rocket
will be scored as zero (0) points for that event.

Launching Orders- Teams will draw a number from a hat, which will determine what
order they will launch.

Scoring- Trophies will be awarded for first, second, and third place for each
category.

Overall Championship Awards

15 points for each 1st place win in each category.

10 points for each 2nd place win in each category.

5 points for each 3rd place win in each category.

In the event of a tie in the over all awards competition, the winner will be
declared by the amount of trophies the team won.

Mosquito Drag racing will not be counted in the over all awards.

John,
I need a ride. I could 2 wheel it down there myself, but not my gear.
Perhaps you could pickup my stuff Thurs or Friday and I'll ride the bike to your
house Sat morning since I live in the wrong direction.

Email or call.
658-7356

Ken

Purgatory is in the paperwork.
I like that.

--- In alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com, "jal3net" <john@...> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone.
>
> I'm sorry to have been uncommunicative lately. I've had way too many deaths at
the church and I still have a few in the hospital. To keep things extra special,
my annual charge conference is tonight. Methodists reject purgatory but we had
to replace it with something; chrage conference paperwork.
>
> The cornfield classic is this Saturday. I hope everyone can make it.
>
> I can give rides to some who want them. Let me know and we can discuss pickup
times and locations.
>
> The event starts at 9 am but there is a captain's meeting at 830. I am posting
the info I got right below:
>
> ====================================
> Hi John,
>
> That sounds wonderful.  We plan to have the Captains meeting at 0830 with a
lunch start of 0900.  Demo launches will be at the end of the events close to
noon.  We will provide a continental breakfast and lunch for our judges.  Like
last year, I would like you and at least one more Alamo Rocketeer to serve as
the official timers for the duration events as well as help check rockets for
safety prior to launch.  Below is the current ROE participants will use.
>
> Thanks again!
>
> RULES FOR MODEL ROCKETRY COMPETITION
>
> Safety: The Rocketry Meet will be conducted in accordance with the National
Association of Rocketry Safety Code.  All team members, coaches and spectators
must follow the instructions of the Range Officer, Colonel Glenn Larsen. Failure
to do so will result in the team's disqualification from the rocket meet. We
will allow all teams a few minutes between each event to recover their rockets.
Please do not let team members to proceed until the range officer gives the okay
to recover your rockets.
>
> Construction and Appearance:  Before launching, all rockets will be given
safety check for sturdiness, proper construction, and fin alignment.  If a
rocket does not meet safety standards, it will not be allowed to enter.  Rockets
must be intact upon landing to qualify for judging.  Each rocket must be a
minimum of 12" (inches) in length with the exception of the Mosquito Rocket. All
contest rockets must be painted.  Rockets may be of any color.
>
> Recovery Systems:  All rockets must have an operational recovery system.    A
complete deployment of the parachute recovery system is where the parachute
comes completely out and fully opens.  A complete deployment of the streamer
recovery system is where the entire streamer length comes out of the rocket
body. There will be no Helo and/or tumble recovery systems allowed in any
events.
>
> Launch Pad:  Each team must to bring a launch pad to the meet for their
rockets.
>
> Team Size:  Each team will have two (2) entrants for each event.
>
> Event/Launching Categories:
>
> Altitude- A measurement of how high the rocket goes up into the air before it
starts it's decent. [Two (2) rockets will be launched in this category and the
average of the two rockets will be the score.] [No larger than a B-6-4 engine
can be used.]
>
> Parachute Duration- The time that the Rocket stays in the air from time of
launch until the rocket touches down or can no longer be seen. [Two (2) rockets
will be Launched in this category and the average of the 2 rockets will be your
score.] [No larger than a B-6-4 engine can be used in this event.]
>
> Streamer Duration- The time that the Rocket stays in the air from time of
launch until the rocket touches down or can no longer be seen. [Two (2) rockets
will be Launched in this category and the average of the 2 rockets will be your
score.] [No larger than a B-6-4 engine can be used in this event.]
>
> Spot landing- In this event there will be three categories 30, 65, 100 meters.
Two (2) rockets will be launched for each distance. The average of the 2 rockets
will be your score. You may use any type of recovery system (streamer or
parachute.)  During this event 6 teams will launch at the same time. Once all
teams have fired their rocket, one team member will go and stand by their team's
rocket which will then be measured. (No larger than an A-8-3 engine will be used
in this event.)
>
> Best Rocket- Will be judged by how the rocket is designed, built, painted and
detailed scheme. An important criterion is how professional it looks. The rocket
does not have to be launched in any order categories. (Only 1 rocket in this
category per team)
>
> Mosquito Drag Racing- All rockets will be launched at the same time. One team
member from each team will have 2 minutes to go and find their rocket. When the
whistle is blown, you may pick up your rocket and run back to the designated
finish line. This event will be judged for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place trophies.
>
> Exhibition- This is the show off event. Teams may use one or two stage designs
with no larger than a C class engine, larger entries require prior approval due
to the proximity of a municipal airfield. The rocket must be recovered to be
scored. Random Judges from different schools or a distinguished honorary guest
may judge the best rocket. Awards will be handed out for 1st, 2nd; 3rd.
>
> Misfires - If the make-up shot for the misfired rocket also misfires, the
rocket will be scored as zero (0) points for that event.
>
> Launching Orders- Teams will draw a number from a hat, which will determine
what order they will launch.
>
> Scoring- Trophies will be awarded for first, second, and third place for each
category.
>
> Overall Championship Awards
>
> 15 points for each 1st place win in each category.
>
> 10 points for each 2nd place win in each category.
>
> 5 points for each 3rd place win in each category.
>
> In the event of a tie in the over all awards competition, the winner will be
declared by the amount of trophies the team won.
>
> Mosquito Drag racing will not be counted in the over all awards.
>

John,

Thanks for posting the times and other details.

I know I've been there before...but that was last year.

It's at Medina Valley High School, right?

Thanks,

Stu

--- On Wed, 10/14/09, Ken <kur-kzak@...> wrote:

From: Ken <kur-kzak@...>
Subject: [alamo_rocketeers] Re: Cornfield Classic
To: alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, October 14, 2009, 10:51 AM






 





                   John,

I need a ride. I could 2 wheel it down there myself, but not my gear.

Perhaps you could pickup my stuff Thurs or Friday and I'll ride the bike to your
house Sat morning since I live in the wrong direction.



Email or call.

658-7356



Ken



Purgatory is in the paperwork.

I like that.



--- In alamo_rocketeers@ yahoogroups. com, "jal3net" <john@...> wrote:

>

> Hello everyone.

>

> I'm sorry to have been uncommunicative lately. I've had way too many deaths at
the church and I still have a few in the hospital. To keep things extra special,
my annual charge conference is tonight. Methodists reject purgatory but we had
to replace it with something; chrage conference paperwork.

>

> The cornfield classic is this Saturday. I hope everyone can make it.

>

> I can give rides to some who want them. Let me know and we can discuss pickup
times and locations.

>

> The event starts at 9 am but there is a captain's meeting at 830. I am posting
the info I got right below:

>

> ============ ========= ========= ======

> Hi John,

>

> That sounds wonderful.  We plan to have the Captains meeting at 0830 with a
lunch start of 0900.  Demo launches will be at the end of the events close to
noon.  We will provide a continental breakfast and lunch for our judges.  Like
last year, I would like you and at least one more Alamo Rocketeer to serve as
the official timers for the duration events as well as help check rockets for
safety prior to launch.  Below is the current ROE participants will use.

>

> Thanks again!

>

> RULES FOR MODEL ROCKETRY COMPETITION

>

> Safety: The Rocketry Meet will be conducted in accordance with the National
Association of Rocketry Safety Code.  All team members, coaches and spectators
must follow the instructions of the Range Officer, Colonel Glenn Larsen. Failure
to do so will result in the team's disqualification from the rocket meet. We
will allow all teams a few minutes between each event to recover their rockets.
Please do not let team members to proceed until the range officer gives the okay
to recover your rockets.

>

> Construction and Appearance:  Before launching, all rockets will be given
safety check for sturdiness, proper construction, and fin alignment.  If a
rocket does not meet safety standards, it will not be allowed to enter.  Rockets
must be intact upon landing to qualify for judging.  Each rocket must be a
minimum of 12" (inches) in length with the exception of the Mosquito Rocket. All
contest rockets must be painted.  Rockets may be of any color.

>

> Recovery Systems:  All rockets must have an operational recovery system.    A
complete deployment of the parachute recovery system is where the parachute
comes completely out and fully opens.  A complete deployment of the streamer
recovery system is where the entire streamer length comes out of the rocket
body. There will be no Helo and/or tumble recovery systems allowed in any
events.

>

> Launch Pad:  Each team must to bring a launch pad to the meet for their
rockets.

>

> Team Size:  Each team will have two (2) entrants for each event.

>

> Event/Launching Categories:

>

> Altitude- A measurement of how high the rocket goes up into the air before it
starts it's decent. [Two (2) rockets will be launched in this category and the
average of the two rockets will be the score.] [No larger than a B-6-4 engine
can be used.]

>

> Parachute Duration- The time that the Rocket stays in the air from time of
launch until the rocket touches down or can no longer be seen. [Two (2) rockets
will be Launched in this category and the average of the 2 rockets will be your
score.] [No larger than a B-6-4 engine can be used in this event.]

>

> Streamer Duration- The time that the Rocket stays in the air from time of
launch until the rocket touches down or can no longer be seen. [Two (2) rockets
will be Launched in this category and the average of the 2 rockets will be your
score.] [No larger than a B-6-4 engine can be used in this event.]

>

> Spot landing- In this event there will be three categories 30, 65, 100 meters.
Two (2) rockets will be launched for each distance. The average of the 2 rockets
will be your score. You may use any type of recovery system (streamer or
parachute.)  During this event 6 teams will launch at the same time. Once all
teams have fired their rocket, one team member will go and stand by their team's
rocket which will then be measured. (No larger than an A-8-3 engine will be used
in this event.)

>

> Best Rocket- Will be judged by how the rocket is designed, built, painted and
detailed scheme. An important criterion is how professional it looks. The rocket
does not have to be launched in any order categories. (Only 1 rocket in this
category per team)

>

> Mosquito Drag Racing- All rockets will be launched at the same time. One team
member from each team will have 2 minutes to go and find their rocket. When the
whistle is blown, you may pick up your rocket and run back to the designated
finish line. This event will be judged for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place trophies.

>

> Exhibition- This is the show off event. Teams may use one or two stage designs
with no larger than a C class engine, larger entries require prior approval due
to the proximity of a municipal airfield. The rocket must be recovered to be
scored. Random Judges from different schools or a distinguished honorary guest
may judge the best rocket. Awards will be handed out for 1st, 2nd; 3rd.

>

> Misfires - If the make-up shot for the misfired rocket also misfires, the
rocket will be scored as zero (0) points for that event.

>

> Launching Orders- Teams will draw a number from a hat, which will determine
what order they will launch.

>

> Scoring- Trophies will be awarded for first, second, and third place for each
category.

>

> Overall Championship Awards

>

> 15 points for each 1st place win in each category.

>

> 10 points for each 2nd place win in each category.

>

> 5 points for each 3rd place win in each category.

>

> In the event of a tie in the over all awards competition, the winner will be
declared by the amount of trophies the team won.

>

> Mosquito Drag racing will not be counted in the over all awards.

>




























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I'm planning on driving down myself if there's anyone else that needs a
ride.

So, paperwork is included in purgatory, but not exclusive to that alone,
right?  I always thought taxes were in there too somehow.    among other
things of course...

I agree with Ken, I like that.  It's simple and easy to understand....  Yet
painful.

   _____

From: alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ken
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 10:52 AM
To: alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [alamo_rocketeers] Re: Cornfield Classic




John,
I need a ride. I could 2 wheel it down there myself, but not my gear.
Perhaps you could pickup my stuff Thurs or Friday and I'll ride the bike to
your house Sat morning since I live in the wrong direction.

Email or call.
658-7356

Ken

Purgatory is in the paperwork.
I like that.

--- In alamo_rocketeers@ <mailto:alamo_rocketeers%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, "jal3net" <john@...> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone.
>
> I'm sorry to have been uncommunicative lately. I've had way too many
deaths at the church and I still have a few in the hospital. To keep things
extra special, my annual charge conference is tonight. Methodists reject
purgatory but we had to replace it with something; chrage conference
paperwork.
>
> The cornfield classic is this Saturday. I hope everyone can make it.
>
> I can give rides to some who want them. Let me know and we can discuss
pickup times and locations.
>
> The event starts at 9 am but there is a captain's meeting at 830. I am
posting the info I got right below:
>
> ====================================
> Hi John,
>
> That sounds wonderful. We plan to have the Captains meeting at 0830 with a
lunch start of 0900. Demo launches will be at the end of the events close to
noon. We will provide a continental breakfast and lunch for our judges. Like
last year, I would like you and at least one more Alamo Rocketeer to serve
as the official timers for the duration events as well as help check rockets
for safety prior to launch. Below is the current ROE participants will use.
>
> Thanks again!
>
> RULES FOR MODEL ROCKETRY COMPETITION
>
> Safety: The Rocketry Meet will be conducted in accordance with the
National Association of Rocketry Safety Code. All team members, coaches and
spectators must follow the instructions of the Range Officer, Colonel Glenn
Larsen. Failure to do so will result in the team's disqualification from the
rocket meet. We will allow all teams a few minutes between each event to
recover their rockets. Please do not let team members to proceed until the
range officer gives the okay to recover your rockets.
>
> Construction and Appearance: Before launching, all rockets will be given
safety check for sturdiness, proper construction, and fin alignment. If a
rocket does not meet safety standards, it will not be allowed to enter.
Rockets must be intact upon landing to qualify for judging. Each rocket must
be a minimum of 12" (inches) in length with the exception of the Mosquito
Rocket. All contest rockets must be painted. Rockets may be of any color.
>
> Recovery Systems: All rockets must have an operational recovery system. A
complete deployment of the parachute recovery system is where the parachute
comes completely out and fully opens. A complete deployment of the streamer
recovery system is where the entire streamer length comes out of the rocket
body. There will be no Helo and/or tumble recovery systems allowed in any
events.
>
> Launch Pad: Each team must to bring a launch pad to the meet for their
rockets.
>
> Team Size: Each team will have two (2) entrants for each event.
>
> Event/Launching Categories:
>
> Altitude- A measurement of how high the rocket goes up into the air before
it starts it's decent. [Two (2) rockets will be launched in this category
and the average of the two rockets will be the score.] [No larger than a
B-6-4 engine can be used.]
>
> Parachute Duration- The time that the Rocket stays in the air from time of
launch until the rocket touches down or can no longer be seen. [Two (2)
rockets will be Launched in this category and the average of the 2 rockets
will be your score.] [No larger than a B-6-4 engine can be used in this
event.]
>
> Streamer Duration- The time that the Rocket stays in the air from time of
launch until the rocket touches down or can no longer be seen. [Two (2)
rockets will be Launched in this category and the average of the 2 rockets
will be your score.] [No larger than a B-6-4 engine can be used in this
event.]
>
> Spot landing- In this event there will be three categories 30, 65, 100
meters. Two (2) rockets will be launched for each distance. The average of
the 2 rockets will be your score. You may use any type of recovery system
(streamer or parachute.) During this event 6 teams will launch at the same
time. Once all teams have fired their rocket, one team member will go and
stand by their team's rocket which will then be measured. (No larger than an
A-8-3 engine will be used in this event.)
>
> Best Rocket- Will be judged by how the rocket is designed, built, painted
and detailed scheme. An important criterion is how professional it looks.
The rocket does not have to be launched in any order categories. (Only 1
rocket in this category per team)
>
> Mosquito Drag Racing- All rockets will be launched at the same time. One
team member from each team will have 2 minutes to go and find their rocket.
When the whistle is blown, you may pick up your rocket and run back to the
designated finish line. This event will be judged for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd
place trophies.
>
> Exhibition- This is the show off event. Teams may use one or two stage
designs with no larger than a C class engine, larger entries require prior
approval due to the proximity of a municipal airfield. The rocket must be
recovered to be scored. Random Judges from different schools or a
distinguished honorary guest may judge the best rocket. Awards will be
handed out for 1st, 2nd; 3rd.
>
> Misfires - If the make-up shot for the misfired rocket also misfires, the
rocket will be scored as zero (0) points for that event.
>
> Launching Orders- Teams will draw a number from a hat, which will
determine what order they will launch.
>
> Scoring- Trophies will be awarded for first, second, and third place for
each category.
>
> Overall Championship Awards
>
> 15 points for each 1st place win in each category.
>
> 10 points for each 2nd place win in each category.
>
> 5 points for each 3rd place win in each category.
>
> In the event of a tie in the over all awards competition, the winner will
be declared by the amount of trophies the team won.
>
> Mosquito Drag racing will not be counted in the over all awards.
>





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Thanks, John.  Just to clarify, we need to be at Medina Valley High School
at 8:30, right, to flush out who was going to help out on what, etc.?  Are
our launches part of the "exhibition"?  Besides our rockets and supplies,
did we need to bring anything else with us?

-Todd

   _____

From: alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jal3net
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 10:02 AM
To: alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [alamo_rocketeers] Cornfield Classic




Hello everyone.

I'm sorry to have been uncommunicative lately. I've had way too many deaths
at the church and I still have a few in the hospital. To keep things extra
special, my annual charge conference is tonight. Methodists reject purgatory
but we had to replace it with something; chrage conference paperwork.

The cornfield classic is this Saturday. I hope everyone can make it.

I can give rides to some who want them. Let me know and we can discuss
pickup times and locations.

The event starts at 9 am but there is a captain's meeting at 830. I am
posting the info I got right below:

====================================
Hi John,

That sounds wonderful. We plan to have the Captains meeting at 0830 with a
lunch start of 0900. Demo launches will be at the end of the events close to
noon. We will provide a continental breakfast and lunch for our judges. Like
last year, I would like you and at least one more Alamo Rocketeer to serve
as the official timers for the duration events as well as help check rockets
for safety prior to launch. Below is the current ROE participants will use.

Thanks again!

RULES FOR MODEL ROCKETRY COMPETITION

Safety: The Rocketry Meet will be conducted in accordance with the National
Association of Rocketry Safety Code. All team members, coaches and
spectators must follow the instructions of the Range Officer, Colonel Glenn
Larsen. Failure to do so will result in the team's disqualification from the
rocket meet. We will allow all teams a few minutes between each event to
recover their rockets. Please do not let team members to proceed until the
range officer gives the okay to recover your rockets.

Construction and Appearance: Before launching, all rockets will be given
safety check for sturdiness, proper construction, and fin alignment. If a
rocket does not meet safety standards, it will not be allowed to enter.
Rockets must be intact upon landing to qualify for judging. Each rocket must
be a minimum of 12" (inches) in length with the exception of the Mosquito
Rocket. All contest rockets must be painted. Rockets may be of any color.

Recovery Systems: All rockets must have an operational recovery system. A
complete deployment of the parachute recovery system is where the parachute
comes completely out and fully opens. A complete deployment of the streamer
recovery system is where the entire streamer length comes out of the rocket
body. There will be no Helo and/or tumble recovery systems allowed in any
events.

Launch Pad: Each team must to bring a launch pad to the meet for their
rockets.

Team Size: Each team will have two (2) entrants for each event.

Event/Launching Categories:

Altitude- A measurement of how high the rocket goes up into the air before
it starts it's decent. [Two (2) rockets will be launched in this category
and the average of the two rockets will be the score.] [No larger than a
B-6-4 engine can be used.]

Parachute Duration- The time that the Rocket stays in the air from time of
launch until the rocket touches down or can no longer be seen. [Two (2)
rockets will be Launched in this category and the average of the 2 rockets
will be your score.] [No larger than a B-6-4 engine can be used in this
event.]

Streamer Duration- The time that the Rocket stays in the air from time of
launch until the rocket touches down or can no longer be seen. [Two (2)
rockets will be Launched in this category and the average of the 2 rockets
will be your score.] [No larger than a B-6-4 engine can be used in this
event.]

Spot landing- In this event there will be three categories 30, 65, 100
meters. Two (2) rockets will be launched for each distance. The average of
the 2 rockets will be your score. You may use any type of recovery system
(streamer or parachute.) During this event 6 teams will launch at the same
time. Once all teams have fired their rocket, one team member will go and
stand by their team's rocket which will then be measured. (No larger than an
A-8-3 engine will be used in this event.)

Best Rocket- Will be judged by how the rocket is designed, built, painted
and detailed scheme. An important criterion is how professional it looks.
The rocket does not have to be launched in any order categories. (Only 1
rocket in this category per team)

Mosquito Drag Racing- All rockets will be launched at the same time. One
team member from each team will have 2 minutes to go and find their rocket.
When the whistle is blown, you may pick up your rocket and run back to the
designated finish line. This event will be judged for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd
place trophies.

Exhibition- This is the show off event. Teams may use one or two stage
designs with no larger than a C class engine, larger entries require prior
approval due to the proximity of a municipal airfield. The rocket must be
recovered to be scored. Random Judges from different schools or a
distinguished honorary guest may judge the best rocket. Awards will be
handed out for 1st, 2nd; 3rd.

Misfires - If the make-up shot for the misfired rocket also misfires, the
rocket will be scored as zero (0) points for that event.

Launching Orders- Teams will draw a number from a hat, which will determine
what order they will launch.

Scoring- Trophies will be awarded for first, second, and third place for
each category.

Overall Championship Awards

15 points for each 1st place win in each category.

10 points for each 2nd place win in each category.

5 points for each 3rd place win in each category.

In the event of a tie in the over all awards competition, the winner will be
declared by the amount of trophies the team won.

Mosquito Drag racing will not be counted in the over all awards.





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Exactly where is the cornfield?

Email Me with the address please
andrew3in1@...

Andrew C Cooper
210-253-0600

--- In alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com, rocket877@... wrote:
>
>
> John,
>
> The Cornfield Classic is a Rocket Meet and Drill Team competition hosted by
> the Junior Air Force ROTC Corps at Medina Valley High School in Castroville,
> Texas.  Teams from a number of high school JROTC corps in the San Antonio
> area complete.  Each team brings their own launch equipment and  rockets.  We
> mainly provided impartial judging of events such as parachute  duration.  We
also
> provided some technical and safety expertise.
>
> The Drill Team competitions were judged by Air Force Drill  Instructors from
> Lackland AFB.
>
> Last year was the first year for the Alamo Rocketeers to participate.   Our
> participation grew out of a 2006/2007 Team America Rocketry Challenge
> qualification attempt made by their Rocket Club and witnessed by Tim Reidy and
> myself.  The TARC attempt failed to get a qualified flight but as a  result of
the
> help and advice we provided, Col. Larsen, the Commandant of  Cadets, invited
us
> to the subsequent Cornfield Classic.
>
> Here is a link to a page with some info about their rocketry program.
> _http://www.mvisd.com/mvhs/Organizations/ROTC%20Website/Parent%20Directory/roc
> ket.htm_
>
(http://www.mvisd.com/mvhs/Organizations/ROTC%20Website/Parent%20Directory/rocke\
t.htm)
>
> We aren't expected to bring anything but last year we set up a static
> display and we were allowed to make several demonstration flights during  the
> competition.  There was a lot of interest from the cadets and  spectators.  I
flew a
> 29mm Priority Stealth on a G motor.  Here are  some of the pictures:
> _http://flickr.com/photos/12375989@N02/sets/72157602471287590/_
> (http://flickr.com/photos/12375989@N02/sets/72157602471287590/)
>
> The person to contact for details about time and place is:
> Glenn J. Larsen, Colonel,  USAF(ret)
> Senior Aerospace Science Instructor
> TX-20009th AFJROTC
> Medina  Valley High School
> 8365 FM 471 South
> Castroville, TX 78009
> 830-931-2243  x1187
> 830-931-6403 fax
> _glenn.larsen@..._ (mailto:glenn.larsen@...)
> Last year, Tim Reidy's daughter was in JROTC and participated  in this event.
>  Tim may be willing to act as Point for the club for  this operation.
>
> Art Applewhite
>
> In a message dated 9/25/2008 11:57:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> john@... writes:
>
> I know  the consensus is that we are to help out with the cornfield
> classic but I  just realize I have no idea what that means. Has anyone
> been in contact  with MVHS? What time? What do we need to bring?
>
> I didn't even think  about this!!!!
>
> John Lee
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial
> challenges?  Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and
> calculators.      (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Hi,

  I will reply in a specific email in to you, Andrew, but am doing it here in
case others want information as well.

Medina Valley HS is on FM 471. To get there, take US 90 west from San Antonio
towards Castroville. 471 intersects 90 and you will want to turn left. It is a
hard left turn in that you are turning more than 90 degrees. The high school is
easily visible on the right about a mile down 471.

As an alternative, as you are just getting into Castroville, there will be some
farm fields on the left side of 90. A road cuts through one of these and has a
large sign over the top of it saying something like "Home of the Medina Valley
Panthers". The school should just be visible as you look down the road. If you
turn left here it is pretty much a straight shot to the school but I do not know
the name of the road. The first alternative is not much more out of the way.

When you get to the school, head for the practice football field. Tell anyone
who asks that you are with the Alamo Rocketeers conducting the launch
operations. The cornfields border the school but we fly from the football field.

As an aside, it looks like the message this is appended to is a very old one. I
think this will be my 3rd Cornflied Classic and i was not present for the first
one.

I hope this helps.

JAL

--- In alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com, "andrew3in1" <andrew3in1@...> wrote:
>
> Exactly where is the cornfield?
>
> Email Me with the address please
> andrew3in1@...
>
> Andrew C Cooper
> 210-253-0600
>
> --- In alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com, rocket877@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > John,
> >
> > The Cornfield Classic is a Rocket Meet and Drill Team competition hosted by
> > the Junior Air Force ROTC Corps at Medina Valley High School in Castroville,
> > Texas.  Teams from a number of high school JROTC corps in the San Antonio
> > area complete.  Each team brings their own launch equipment and  rockets. 
We
> > mainly provided impartial judging of events such as parachute  duration.  We
also
> > provided some technical and safety expertise.
> >
> > The Drill Team competitions were judged by Air Force Drill  Instructors from
> > Lackland AFB.
> >
> > Last year was the first year for the Alamo Rocketeers to participate.   Our
> > participation grew out of a 2006/2007 Team America Rocketry Challenge
> > qualification attempt made by their Rocket Club and witnessed by Tim Reidy
and
> > myself.  The TARC attempt failed to get a qualified flight but as a  result
of the
> > help and advice we provided, Col. Larsen, the Commandant of  Cadets, invited
us
> > to the subsequent Cornfield Classic.
> >
> > Here is a link to a page with some info about their rocketry program.
> >
_http://www.mvisd.com/mvhs/Organizations/ROTC%20Website/Parent%20Directory/roc
> > ket.htm_
> >
(http://www.mvisd.com/mvhs/Organizations/ROTC%20Website/Parent%20Directory/rocke\
t.htm)
> >
> > We aren't expected to bring anything but last year we set up a static
> > display and we were allowed to make several demonstration flights during 
the
> > competition.  There was a lot of interest from the cadets and  spectators. 
I flew a
> > 29mm Priority Stealth on a G motor.  Here are  some of the pictures:
> > _http://flickr.com/photos/12375989@N02/sets/72157602471287590/_
> > (http://flickr.com/photos/12375989@N02/sets/72157602471287590/)
> >
> > The person to contact for details about time and place is:
> > Glenn J. Larsen, Colonel,  USAF(ret)
> > Senior Aerospace Science Instructor
> > TX-20009th AFJROTC
> > Medina  Valley High School
> > 8365 FM 471 South
> > Castroville, TX 78009
> > 830-931-2243  x1187
> > 830-931-6403 fax
> > _glenn.larsen@_ (mailto:glenn.larsen@)
> > Last year, Tim Reidy's daughter was in JROTC and participated  in this
event.
> >  Tim may be willing to act as Point for the club for  this operation.
> >
> > Art Applewhite
> >
> > In a message dated 9/25/2008 11:57:47 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> > john@ writes:
> >
> > I know  the consensus is that we are to help out with the cornfield
> > classic but I  just realize I have no idea what that means. Has anyone
> > been in contact  with MVHS? What time? What do we need to bring?
> >
> > I didn't even think  about this!!!!
> >
> > John Lee
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial
> > challenges?  Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips
and
> > calculators.      (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

Yes, our launches are the exhibition. Bring your rockets, motors,
igniters and any specialized GSE you need. THe club racks will be
present and availible and I will have my rail there. I don't think you
have any exotic needs unless you're been holding out on us.

Bring any comfort items you may need.

JAL

________________________________

From: alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Todd
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 7:46 PM
To: alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [alamo_rocketeers] Cornfield Classic




Thanks, John. Just to clarify, we need to be at Medina Valley High
School
at 8:30, right, to flush out who was going to help out on what, etc.?
Are
our launches part of the "exhibition"? Besides our rockets and supplies,
did we need to bring anything else with us?

-Todd

_____

From: alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:alamo_rocketeers%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:alamo_rocketeers%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of jal3net
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 10:02 AM
To: alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:alamo_rocketeers%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [alamo_rocketeers] Cornfield Classic

Hello everyone.

I'm sorry to have been uncommunicative lately. I've had way too many
deaths
at the church and I still have a few in the hospital. To keep things
extra
special, my annual charge conference is tonight. Methodists reject
purgatory
but we had to replace it with something; chrage conference paperwork.

The cornfield classic is this Saturday. I hope everyone can make it.

I can give rides to some who want them. Let me know and we can discuss
pickup times and locations.

The event starts at 9 am but there is a captain's meeting at 830. I am
posting the info I got right below:

====================================
Hi John,

That sounds wonderful. We plan to have the Captains meeting at 0830 with
a
lunch start of 0900. Demo launches will be at the end of the events
close to
noon. We will provide a continental breakfast and lunch for our judges.
Like
last year, I would like you and at least one more Alamo Rocketeer to
serve
as the official timers for the duration events as well as help check
rockets
for safety prior to launch. Below is the current ROE participants will
use.

Thanks again!

RULES FOR MODEL ROCKETRY COMPETITION

Safety: The Rocketry Meet will be conducted in accordance with the
National
Association of Rocketry Safety Code. All team members, coaches and
spectators must follow the instructions of the Range Officer, Colonel
Glenn
Larsen. Failure to do so will result in the team's disqualification from
the
rocket meet. We will allow all teams a few minutes between each event to
recover their rockets. Please do not let team members to proceed until
the
range officer gives the okay to recover your rockets.

Construction and Appearance: Before launching, all rockets will be given
safety check for sturdiness, proper construction, and fin alignment. If
a
rocket does not meet safety standards, it will not be allowed to enter.
Rockets must be intact upon landing to qualify for judging. Each rocket
must
be a minimum of 12" (inches) in length with the exception of the
Mosquito
Rocket. All contest rockets must be painted. Rockets may be of any
color.

Recovery Systems: All rockets must have an operational recovery system.
A
complete deployment of the parachute recovery system is where the
parachute
comes completely out and fully opens. A complete deployment of the
streamer
recovery system is where the entire streamer length comes out of the
rocket
body. There will be no Helo and/or tumble recovery systems allowed in
any
events.

Launch Pad: Each team must to bring a launch pad to the meet for their
rockets.

Team Size: Each team will have two (2) entrants for each event.

Event/Launching Categories:

Altitude- A measurement of how high the rocket goes up into the air
before
it starts it's decent. [Two (2) rockets will be launched in this
category
and the average of the two rockets will be the score.] [No larger than a
B-6-4 engine can be used.]

Parachute Duration- The time that the Rocket stays in the air from time
of
launch until the rocket touches down or can no longer be seen. [Two (2)
rockets will be Launched in this category and the average of the 2
rockets
will be your score.] [No larger than a B-6-4 engine can be used in this
event.]

Streamer Duration- The time that the Rocket stays in the air from time
of
launch until the rocket touches down or can no longer be seen. [Two (2)
rockets will be Launched in this category and the average of the 2
rockets
will be your score.] [No larger than a B-6-4 engine can be used in this
event.]

Spot landing- In this event there will be three categories 30, 65, 100
meters. Two (2) rockets will be launched for each distance. The average
of
the 2 rockets will be your score. You may use any type of recovery
system
(streamer or parachute.) During this event 6 teams will launch at the
same
time. Once all teams have fired their rocket, one team member will go
and
stand by their team's rocket which will then be measured. (No larger
than an
A-8-3 engine will be used in this event.)

Best Rocket- Will be judged by how the rocket is designed, built,
painted
and detailed scheme. An important criterion is how professional it
looks.
The rocket does not have to be launched in any order categories. (Only 1
rocket in this category per team)

Mosquito Drag Racing- All rockets will be launched at the same time. One
team member from each team will have 2 minutes to go and find their
rocket.
When the whistle is blown, you may pick up your rocket and run back to
the
designated finish line. This event will be judged for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd
place trophies.

Exhibition- This is the show off event. Teams may use one or two stage
designs with no larger than a C class engine, larger entries require
prior
approval due to the proximity of a municipal airfield. The rocket must
be
recovered to be scored. Random Judges from different schools or a
distinguished honorary guest may judge the best rocket. Awards will be
handed out for 1st, 2nd; 3rd.

Misfires - If the make-up shot for the misfired rocket also misfires,
the
rocket will be scored as zero (0) points for that event.

Launching Orders- Teams will draw a number from a hat, which will
determine
what order they will launch.

Scoring- Trophies will be awarded for first, second, and third place for
each category.

Overall Championship Awards

15 points for each 1st place win in each category.

10 points for each 2nd place win in each category.

5 points for each 3rd place win in each category.

In the event of a tie in the over all awards competition, the winner
will be
declared by the amount of trophies the team won.

Mosquito Drag racing will not be counted in the over all awards.

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Todd, paperwork is only part of purgatory. The other part is getting
people to fill out their forms and hand them back in.
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ken, I tried calling that number today and was told I had the wrong
number.

My number is 844-5600. Call me and we'll get somethign arranged.

JAL

________________________________

From: alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Todd
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 7:16 PM
To: alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [alamo_rocketeers] Re: Cornfield Classic




I'm planning on driving down myself if there's anyone else that needs a
ride.

So, paperwork is included in purgatory, but not exclusive to that alone,
right? I always thought taxes were in there too somehow. among other
things of course...

I agree with Ken, I like that. It's simple and easy to understand....
Yet
painful.

_____

From: alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:alamo_rocketeers%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:alamo_rocketeers%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Ken
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 10:52 AM
To: alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:alamo_rocketeers%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [alamo_rocketeers] Re: Cornfield Classic

John,
I need a ride. I could 2 wheel it down there myself, but not my gear.
Perhaps you could pickup my stuff Thurs or Friday and I'll ride the bike
to
your house Sat morning since I live in the wrong direction.

Email or call.
658-7356

Ken

Purgatory is in the paperwork.
I like that.

--- In alamo_rocketeers@ <mailto:alamo_rocketeers%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, "jal3net" <john@...> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone.
>
> I'm sorry to have been uncommunicative lately. I've had way too many
deaths at the church and I still have a few in the hospital. To keep
things
extra special, my annual charge conference is tonight. Methodists reject
purgatory but we had to replace it with something; chrage conference
paperwork.
>
> The cornfield classic is this Saturday. I hope everyone can make it.
>
> I can give rides to some who want them. Let me know and we can discuss
pickup times and locations.
>
> The event starts at 9 am but there is a captain's meeting at 830. I am
posting the info I got right below:
>
> ====================================
> Hi John,
>
> That sounds wonderful. We plan to have the Captains meeting at 0830
with a
lunch start of 0900. Demo launches will be at the end of the events
close to
noon. We will provide a continental breakfast and lunch for our judges.
Like
last year, I would like you and at least one more Alamo Rocketeer to
serve
as the official timers for the duration events as well as help check
rockets
for safety prior to launch. Below is the current ROE participants will
use.
>
> Thanks again!
>
> RULES FOR MODEL ROCKETRY COMPETITION
>
> Safety: The Rocketry Meet will be conducted in accordance with the
National Association of Rocketry Safety Code. All team members, coaches
and
spectators must follow the instructions of the Range Officer, Colonel
Glenn
Larsen. Failure to do so will result in the team's disqualification from
the
rocket meet. We will allow all teams a few minutes between each event to
recover their rockets. Please do not let team members to proceed until
the
range officer gives the okay to recover your rockets.
>
> Construction and Appearance: Before launching, all rockets will be
given
safety check for sturdiness, proper construction, and fin alignment. If
a
rocket does not meet safety standards, it will not be allowed to enter.
Rockets must be intact upon landing to qualify for judging. Each rocket
must
be a minimum of 12" (inches) in length with the exception of the
Mosquito
Rocket. All contest rockets must be painted. Rockets may be of any
color.
>
> Recovery Systems: All rockets must have an operational recovery
system. A
complete deployment of the parachute recovery system is where the
parachute
comes completely out and fully opens. A complete deployment of the
streamer
recovery system is where the entire streamer length comes out of the
rocket
body. There will be no Helo and/or tumble recovery systems allowed in
any
events.
>
> Launch Pad: Each team must to bring a launch pad to the meet for their
rockets.
>
> Team Size: Each team will have two (2) entrants for each event.
>
> Event/Launching Categories:
>
> Altitude- A measurement of how high the rocket goes up into the air
before
it starts it's decent. [Two (2) rockets will be launched in this
category
and the average of the two rockets will be the score.] [No larger than a
B-6-4 engine can be used.]
>
> Parachute Duration- The time that the Rocket stays in the air from
time of
launch until the rocket touches down or can no longer be seen. [Two (2)
rockets will be Launched in this category and the average of the 2
rockets
will be your score.] [No larger than a B-6-4 engine can be used in this
event.]
>
> Streamer Duration- The time that the Rocket stays in the air from time
of
launch until the rocket touches down or can no longer be seen. [Two (2)
rockets will be Launched in this category and the average of the 2
rockets
will be your score.] [No larger than a B-6-4 engine can be used in this
event.]
>
> Spot landing- In this event there will be three categories 30, 65, 100
meters. Two (2) rockets will be launched for each distance. The average
of
the 2 rockets will be your score. You may use any type of recovery
system
(streamer or parachute.) During this event 6 teams will launch at the
same
time. Once all teams have fired their rocket, one team member will go
and
stand by their team's rocket which will then be measured. (No larger
than an
A-8-3 engine will be used in this event.)
>
> Best Rocket- Will be judged by how the rocket is designed, built,
painted
and detailed scheme. An important criterion is how professional it
looks.
The rocket does not have to be launched in any order categories. (Only 1
rocket in this category per team)
>
> Mosquito Drag Racing- All rockets will be launched at the same time.
One
team member from each team will have 2 minutes to go and find their
rocket.
When the whistle is blown, you may pick up your rocket and run back to
the
designated finish line. This event will be judged for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd
place trophies.
>
> Exhibition- This is the show off event. Teams may use one or two stage
designs with no larger than a C class engine, larger entries require
prior
approval due to the proximity of a municipal airfield. The rocket must
be
recovered to be scored. Random Judges from different schools or a
distinguished honorary guest may judge the best rocket. Awards will be
handed out for 1st, 2nd; 3rd.
>
> Misfires - If the make-up shot for the misfired rocket also misfires,
the
rocket will be scored as zero (0) points for that event.
>
> Launching Orders- Teams will draw a number from a hat, which will
determine what order they will launch.
>
> Scoring- Trophies will be awarded for first, second, and third place
for
each category.
>
> Overall Championship Awards
>
> 15 points for each 1st place win in each category.
>
> 10 points for each 2nd place win in each category.
>
> 5 points for each 3rd place win in each category.
>
> In the event of a tie in the over all awards competition, the winner
will
be declared by the amount of trophies the team won.
>
> Mosquito Drag racing will not be counted in the over all awards.
>

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That is correct.

JAL

________________________________

From: alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Stuart Young
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 2:30 PM
To: alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [alamo_rocketeers] Re: Cornfield Classic




John,

Thanks for posting the times and other details.

I know I've been there before...but that was last year.

It's at Medina Valley High School, right?

Thanks,

Stu

--- On Wed, 10/14/09, Ken <kur-kzak@... <mailto:kur-kzak%40att.net>
> wrote:

From: Ken <kur-kzak@... <mailto:kur-kzak%40att.net> >
Subject: [alamo_rocketeers] Re: Cornfield Classic
To: alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:alamo_rocketeers%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, October 14, 2009, 10:51 AM



John,

I need a ride. I could 2 wheel it down there myself, but not my gear.

Perhaps you could pickup my stuff Thurs or Friday and I'll ride the bike
to your house Sat morning since I live in the wrong direction.

Email or call.

658-7356

Ken

Purgatory is in the paperwork.

I like that.

--- In alamo_rocketeers@ yahoogroups. com, "jal3net" <john@...> wrote:

>

> Hello everyone.

>

> I'm sorry to have been uncommunicative lately. I've had way too many
deaths at the church and I still have a few in the hospital. To keep
things extra special, my annual charge conference is tonight. Methodists
reject purgatory but we had to replace it with something; chrage
conference paperwork.

>

> The cornfield classic is this Saturday. I hope everyone can make it.

>

> I can give rides to some who want them. Let me know and we can discuss
pickup times and locations.

>

> The event starts at 9 am but there is a captain's meeting at 830. I am
posting the info I got right below:

>

> ============ ========= ========= ======

> Hi John,

>

> That sounds wonderful. We plan to have the Captains meeting at 0830
with a lunch start of 0900. Demo launches will be at the end of the
events close to noon. We will provide a continental breakfast and lunch
for our judges. Like last year, I would like you and at least one more
Alamo Rocketeer to serve as the official timers for the duration events
as well as help check rockets for safety prior to launch. Below is the
current ROE participants will use.

>

> Thanks again!

>

> RULES FOR MODEL ROCKETRY COMPETITION

>

> Safety: The Rocketry Meet will be conducted in accordance with the
National Association of Rocketry Safety Code. All team members, coaches
and spectators must follow the instructions of the Range Officer,
Colonel Glenn Larsen. Failure to do so will result in the team's
disqualification from the rocket meet. We will allow all teams a few
minutes between each event to recover their rockets. Please do not let
team members to proceed until the range officer gives the okay to
recover your rockets.

>

> Construction and Appearance: Before launching, all rockets will be
given safety check for sturdiness, proper construction, and fin
alignment. If a rocket does not meet safety standards, it will not be
allowed to enter. Rockets must be intact upon landing to qualify for
judging. Each rocket must be a minimum of 12" (inches) in length with
the exception of the Mosquito Rocket. All contest rockets must be
painted. Rockets may be of any color.

>

> Recovery Systems: All rockets must have an operational recovery
system. A complete deployment of the parachute recovery system is where
the parachute comes completely out and fully opens. A complete
deployment of the streamer recovery system is where the entire streamer
length comes out of the rocket body. There will be no Helo and/or tumble
recovery systems allowed in any events.

>

> Launch Pad: Each team must to bring a launch pad to the meet for their
rockets.

>

> Team Size: Each team will have two (2) entrants for each event.

>

> Event/Launching Categories:

>

> Altitude- A measurement of how high the rocket goes up into the air
before it starts it's decent. [Two (2) rockets will be launched in this
category and the average of the two rockets will be the score.] [No
larger than a B-6-4 engine can be used.]

>

> Parachute Duration- The time that the Rocket stays in the air from
time of launch until the rocket touches down or can no longer be seen.
[Two (2) rockets will be Launched in this category and the average of
the 2 rockets will be your score.] [No larger than a B-6-4 engine can be
used in this event.]

>

> Streamer Duration- The time that the Rocket stays in the air from time
of launch until the rocket touches down or can no longer be seen. [Two
(2) rockets will be Launched in this category and the average of the 2
rockets will be your score.] [No larger than a B-6-4 engine can be used
in this event.]

>

> Spot landing- In this event there will be three categories 30, 65, 100
meters. Two (2) rockets will be launched for each distance. The average
of the 2 rockets will be your score. You may use any type of recovery
system (streamer or parachute.) During this event 6 teams will launch at
the same time. Once all teams have fired their rocket, one team member
will go and stand by their team's rocket which will then be measured.
(No larger than an A-8-3 engine will be used in this event.)

>

> Best Rocket- Will be judged by how the rocket is designed, built,
painted and detailed scheme. An important criterion is how professional
it looks. The rocket does not have to be launched in any order
categories. (Only 1 rocket in this category per team)

>

> Mosquito Drag Racing- All rockets will be launched at the same time.
One team member from each team will have 2 minutes to go and find their
rocket. When the whistle is blown, you may pick up your rocket and run
back to the designated finish line. This event will be judged for 1st,
2nd, and 3rd place trophies.

>

> Exhibition- This is the show off event. Teams may use one or two stage
designs with no larger than a C class engine, larger entries require
prior approval due to the proximity of a municipal airfield. The rocket
must be recovered to be scored. Random Judges from different schools or
a distinguished honorary guest may judge the best rocket. Awards will be
handed out for 1st, 2nd; 3rd.

>

> Misfires - If the make-up shot for the misfired rocket also misfires,
the rocket will be scored as zero (0) points for that event.

>

> Launching Orders- Teams will draw a number from a hat, which will
determine what order they will launch.

>

> Scoring- Trophies will be awarded for first, second, and third place
for each category.

>

> Overall Championship Awards

>

> 15 points for each 1st place win in each category.

>

> 10 points for each 2nd place win in each category.

>

> 5 points for each 3rd place win in each category.

>

> In the event of a tie in the over all awards competition, the winner
will be declared by the amount of trophies the team won.

>

> Mosquito Drag racing will not be counted in the over all awards.

>











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Howdy all,

I have been in contact with the leader of a cub scout den who wants to come to
our November launch and observe with his kids. I told him that is fine. He
contacted me again today and said that the rest of the pack got wind of it and
they all want to come as a pack activity...all 73 plus parents.

I told him that would be fine but they would need to keep everyone, young and
old, under control and listen for safety announcemnts. Their pack wants to get
involved with rockets but some are worried about safety. They want to see it for
themselves.

Additionally, like last year, I will be unavailible for the 2nd Saturday of
December. I will be glad to pass the equipment to somebody else if you still
want to fly on that date. Alternatively, last year we agreed to get together on
the 1st Saturday. It seemed to work for others as well since it did not crowd
Christmas so much.

I am posting a poll on the matter. Please let me know your wishes.


JAL

Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been created for the
alamo_rocketeers group:

In December, do you want to stay with the 2nd Saturday and left somebody else
handle the equipment or move to 1st Saturday?

   o Move to the 1st Saturday
   o Stay with 2nd Saturday


To vote, please visit the following web page:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/alamo_rocketeers/surveys?id=12952911

Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
web site listed above.

Thanks!

Guess I'll have to make sure all my rockets to be launched that day are
stable...unless I want to be a bad influence!

--- On Wed, 10/14/09, jal3net <john@...> wrote:


From: jal3net <john@...>
Subject: [alamo_rocketeers] NOV/DEC launches
To: alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, October 14, 2009, 10:12 PM


 



Howdy all,

I have been in contact with the leader of a cub scout den who wants to come to
our November launch and observe with his kids. I told him that is fine. He
contacted me again today and said that the rest of the pack got wind of it and
they all want to come as a pack activity...all 73 plus parents.

I told him that would be fine but they would need to keep everyone, young and
old, under control and listen for safety announcemnts. Their pack wants to get
involved with rockets but some are worried about safety. They want to see it for
themselves.

Additionally, like last year, I will be unavailible for the 2nd Saturday of
December. I will be glad to pass the equipment to somebody else if you still
want to fly on that date. Alternatively, last year we agreed to get together on
the 1st Saturday. It seemed to work for others as well since it did not crowd
Christmas so much.

I am posting a poll on the matter. Please let me know your wishes.

JAL
















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Actually, I told them to listen for a call of heads up. Everyone pays
attention. I didn't mention you by name.

JAL

________________________________

From: alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Stuart Young
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 7:46 AM
To: alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [alamo_rocketeers] NOV/DEC launches




Guess I'll have to make sure all my rockets to be launched that day are
stable...unless I want to be a bad influence!

--- On Wed, 10/14/09, jal3net <john@... <mailto:john%40jal3.net> >
wrote:

From: jal3net <john@... <mailto:john%40jal3.net> >
Subject: [alamo_rocketeers] NOV/DEC launches
To: alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:alamo_rocketeers%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, October 14, 2009, 10:12 PM



Howdy all,

I have been in contact with the leader of a cub scout den who wants to
come to our November launch and observe with his kids. I told him that
is fine. He contacted me again today and said that the rest of the pack
got wind of it and they all want to come as a pack activity...all 73
plus parents.

I told him that would be fine but they would need to keep everyone,
young and old, under control and listen for safety announcemnts. Their
pack wants to get involved with rockets but some are worried about
safety. They want to see it for themselves.

Additionally, like last year, I will be unavailible for the 2nd Saturday
of December. I will be glad to pass the equipment to somebody else if
you still want to fly on that date. Alternatively, last year we agreed
to get together on the 1st Saturday. It seemed to work for others as
well since it did not crowd Christmas so much.

I am posting a poll on the matter. Please let me know your wishes.

JAL

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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

You might mention to the cub scout leader that you can get a free DVD on
building rockets.
I just got it in the mail but have not yet viewed it hoping to soon maybe
tonight since not much on the T & V




________________________________
From: John Lee <john@...>
To: alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, October 15, 2009 10:34:17 AM
Subject: RE: [alamo_rocketeers] NOV/DEC launches

 
Actually, I told them to listen for a call of heads up. Everyone pays
attention. I didn't mention you by name.

JAL

____________ _________ _________ __

From: alamo_rocketeers@ yahoogroups. com
[mailto:alamo_rocketeers@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Stuart Young
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 7:46 AM
To: alamo_rocketeers@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [alamo_rocketeers] NOV/DEC launches

Guess I'll have to make sure all my rockets to be launched that day are
stable...unless I want to be a bad influence!

--- On Wed, 10/14/09, jal3net <john@... <mailto:john% 40jal3.net> >
wrote:

From: jal3net <john@... <mailto:john% 40jal3.net> >
Subject: [alamo_rocketeers] NOV/DEC launches
To: alamo_rocketeers@ yahoogroups. com
<mailto:alamo_ rocketeers% 40yahoogroups. com>
Date: Wednesday, October 14, 2009, 10:12 PM

Howdy all,

I have been in contact with the leader of a cub scout den who wants to
come to our November launch and observe with his kids. I told him that
is fine. He contacted me again today and said that the rest of the pack
got wind of it and they all want to come as a pack activity...all 73
plus parents.

I told him that would be fine but they would need to keep everyone,
young and old, under control and listen for safety announcemnts. Their
pack wants to get involved with rockets but some are worried about
safety. They want to see it for themselves.

Additionally, like last year, I will be unavailible for the 2nd Saturday
of December. I will be glad to pass the equipment to somebody else if
you still want to fly on that date. Alternatively, last year we agreed
to get together on the 1st Saturday. It seemed to work for others as
well since it did not crowd Christmas so much.

I am posting a poll on the matter. Please let me know your wishes.

JAL

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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Is it too late to decide on flying the 1st Sat of Nov and not tell the Scouts?
Just kidding.
That many cars will constitute a parking problem, You're going to need to set up
stakes and ribbons for spectator parking and the spectator viewing line.
I hope you forewarn the landlord.


Re; December. 1st Sat is fine by me.

Ken



--- In alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com, "John Lee" <john@...> wrote:
>
> Actually, I told them to listen for a call of heads up. Everyone pays
> attention. I didn't mention you by name.
>
> JAL
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Stuart Young
> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 7:46 AM
> To: alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [alamo_rocketeers] NOV/DEC launches
>
>
>
>
> Guess I'll have to make sure all my rockets to be launched that day are
> stable...unless I want to be a bad influence!
>
> --- On Wed, 10/14/09, jal3net <john@... <mailto:john%40jal3.net> >
> wrote:
>
> From: jal3net <john@... <mailto:john%40jal3.net> >
> Subject: [alamo_rocketeers] NOV/DEC launches
> To: alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:alamo_rocketeers%40yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Wednesday, October 14, 2009, 10:12 PM
>
>
>
> Howdy all,
>
> I have been in contact with the leader of a cub scout den who wants to
> come to our November launch and observe with his kids. I told him that
> is fine. He contacted me again today and said that the rest of the pack
> got wind of it and they all want to come as a pack activity...all 73
> plus parents.
>
> I told him that would be fine but they would need to keep everyone,
> young and old, under control and listen for safety announcemnts. Their
> pack wants to get involved with rockets but some are worried about
> safety. They want to see it for themselves.
>
> Additionally, like last year, I will be unavailible for the 2nd Saturday
> of December. I will be glad to pass the equipment to somebody else if
> you still want to fly on that date. Alternatively, last year we agreed
> to get together on the 1st Saturday. It seemed to work for others as
> well since it did not crowd Christmas so much.
>
> I am posting a poll on the matter. Please let me know your wishes.
>
> JAL
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

1st Saturday in Dec would be best for me as well.

As for November?  We can always tell them that for Nov, the contest is the
most "unusual launch".  That way, you set expectations accordingly.   We
could also set up a temporary bunker, that would make for some wide open
eyes.....   :)
Parking could be a problem with that many unless they park way over by where
the fireworks stand is.....  On the flip side, we can tell them that price
for admission is to bring motors of our choosing.

-Todd

   _____

From: alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ken
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 1:14 PM
To: alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [alamo_rocketeers] Re: NOV/DEC launches




Is it too late to decide on flying the 1st Sat of Nov and not tell the
Scouts? Just kidding.
That many cars will constitute a parking problem, You're going to need to
set up stakes and ribbons for spectator parking and the spectator viewing
line.
I hope you forewarn the landlord.

Re; December. 1st Sat is fine by me.

Ken

--- In alamo_rocketeers@ <mailto:alamo_rocketeers%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, "John Lee" <john@...> wrote:
>
> Actually, I told them to listen for a call of heads up. Everyone pays
> attention. I didn't mention you by name.
>
> JAL
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: alamo_rocketeers@ <mailto:alamo_rocketeers%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:alamo_rocketeers@ <mailto:alamo_rocketeers%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Stuart Young
> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 7:46 AM
> To: alamo_rocketeers@ <mailto:alamo_rocketeers%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [alamo_rocketeers] NOV/DEC launches
>
>
>
>
> Guess I'll have to make sure all my rockets to be launched that day are
> stable...unless I want to be a bad influence!
>
> --- On Wed, 10/14/09, jal3net <john@... <mailto:john%40jal3.net> >
> wrote:
>
> From: jal3net <john@... <mailto:john%40jal3.net> >
> Subject: [alamo_rocketeers] NOV/DEC launches
> To: alamo_rocketeers@ <mailto:alamo_rocketeers%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:alamo_rocketeers%40yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Wednesday, October 14, 2009, 10:12 PM
>
>
>
> Howdy all,
>
> I have been in contact with the leader of a cub scout den who wants to
> come to our November launch and observe with his kids. I told him that
> is fine. He contacted me again today and said that the rest of the pack
> got wind of it and they all want to come as a pack activity...all 73
> plus parents.
>
> I told him that would be fine but they would need to keep everyone,
> young and old, under control and listen for safety announcemnts. Their
> pack wants to get involved with rockets but some are worried about
> safety. They want to see it for themselves.
>
> Additionally, like last year, I will be unavailible for the 2nd Saturday
> of December. I will be glad to pass the equipment to somebody else if
> you still want to fly on that date. Alternatively, last year we agreed
> to get together on the 1st Saturday. It seemed to work for others as
> well since it did not crowd Christmas so much.
>
> I am posting a poll on the matter. Please let me know your wishes.
>
> JAL
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>





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I'm easy so the first then.

Andrew

--- In alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com, Stuart Young <darley1999@...> wrote:
>
> Guess I'll have to make sure all my rockets to be launched that day are
stable...unless I want to be a bad influence!
>
> --- On Wed, 10/14/09, jal3net <john@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: jal3net <john@...>
> Subject: [alamo_rocketeers] NOV/DEC launches
> To: alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, October 14, 2009, 10:12 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> Howdy all,
>
> I have been in contact with the leader of a cub scout den who wants to come to
our November launch and observe with his kids. I told him that is fine. He
contacted me again today and said that the rest of the pack got wind of it and
they all want to come as a pack activity...all 73 plus parents.
>
> I told him that would be fine but they would need to keep everyone, young and
old, under control and listen for safety announcemnts. Their pack wants to get
involved with rockets but some are worried about safety. They want to see it for
themselves.
>
> Additionally, like last year, I will be unavailible for the 2nd Saturday of
December. I will be glad to pass the equipment to somebody else if you still
want to fly on that date. Alternatively, last year we agreed to get together on
the 1st Saturday. It seemed to work for others as well since it did not crowd
Christmas so much.
>
> I am posting a poll on the matter. Please let me know your wishes.
>
> JAL
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Something I forgot:

While there will be a limited number of exhibition flights, theres nothing to
stop you from bringing rockets for static display. I'm planning on showing the
coolest looking ones, again, in the hope of generating interest.

If the timing works out, a few of them may even get to fly.

JAL
--- In alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com, "John Lee" <john@...> wrote:
>
> That is correct.
>
> JAL
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Stuart Young
> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 2:30 PM
> To: alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [alamo_rocketeers] Re: Cornfield Classic
>
>
>
>
> John,
>
> Thanks for posting the times and other details.
>
> I know I've been there before...but that was last year.
>
> It's at Medina Valley High School, right?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Stu
>
> --- On Wed, 10/14/09, Ken <kur-kzak@... <mailto:kur-kzak%40att.net>
> > wrote:
>
> From: Ken <kur-kzak@... <mailto:kur-kzak%40att.net> >
> Subject: [alamo_rocketeers] Re: Cornfield Classic
> To: alamo_rocketeers@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:alamo_rocketeers%40yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Wednesday, October 14, 2009, 10:51 AM
>
>
>
> John,
>
> I need a ride. I could 2 wheel it down there myself, but not my gear.
>
> Perhaps you could pickup my stuff Thurs or Friday and I'll ride the bike
> to your house Sat morning since I live in the wrong direction.
>
> Email or call.
>
> 658-7356
>
> Ken
>
> Purgatory is in the paperwork.
>
> I like that.
>
> --- In alamo_rocketeers@ yahoogroups. com, "jal3net" <john@> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Hello everyone.
>
> >
>
> > I'm sorry to have been uncommunicative lately. I've had way too many
> deaths at the church and I still have a few in the hospital. To keep
> things extra special, my annual charge conference is tonight. Methodists
> reject purgatory but we had to replace it with something; chrage
> conference paperwork.
>
> >
>
> > The cornfield classic is this Saturday. I hope everyone can make it.
>
> >
>
> > I can give rides to some who want them. Let me know and we can discuss
> pickup times and locations.
>
> >
>
> > The event starts at 9 am but there is a captain's meeting at 830. I am
> posting the info I got right below:
>
> >
>
> > ============ ========= ========= ======
>
> > Hi John,
>
> >
>
> > That sounds wonderful. We plan to have the Captains meeting at 0830
> with a lunch start of 0900. Demo launches will be at the end of the
> events close to noon. We will provide a continental breakfast and lunch
> for our judges. Like last year, I would like you and at least one more
> Alamo Rocketeer to serve as the official timers for the duration events
> as well as help check rockets for safety prior to launch. Below is the
> current ROE participants will use.
>
> >
>
> > Thanks again!
>
> >
>
> > RULES FOR MODEL ROCKETRY COMPETITION
>
> >
>
> > Safety: The Rocketry Meet will be conducted in accordance with the
> National Association of Rocketry Safety Code. All team members, coaches
> and spectators must follow the instructions of the Range Officer,
> Colonel Glenn Larsen. Failure to do so will result in the team's
> disqualification from the rocket meet. We will allow all teams a few
> minutes between each event to recover their rockets. Please do not let
> team members to proceed until the range officer gives the okay to
> recover your rockets.
>
> >
>
> > Construction and Appearance: Before launching, all rockets will be
> given safety check for sturdiness, proper construction, and fin
> alignment. If a rocket does not meet safety standards, it will not be
> allowed to enter. Rockets must be intact upon landing to qualify for
> judging. Each rocket must be a minimum of 12" (inches) in length with
> the exception of the Mosquito Rocket. All contest rockets must be
> painted. Rockets may be of any color.
>
> >
>
> > Recovery Systems: All rockets must have an operational recovery
> system. A complete deployment of the parachute recovery system is where
> the parachute comes completely out and fully opens. A complete
> deployment of the streamer recovery system is where the entire streamer
> length comes out of the rocket body. There will be no Helo and/or tumble
> recovery systems allowed in any events.
>
> >
>
> > Launch Pad: Each team must to bring a launch pad to the meet for their
> rockets.
>
> >
>
> > Team Size: Each team will have two (2) entrants for each event.
>
> >
>
> > Event/Launching Categories:
>
> >
>
> > Altitude- A measurement of how high the rocket goes up into the air
> before it starts it's decent. [Two (2) rockets will be launched in this
> category and the average of the two rockets will be the score.] [No
> larger than a B-6-4 engine can be used.]
>
> >
>
> > Parachute Duration- The time that the Rocket stays in the air from
> time of launch until the rocket touches down or can no longer be seen.
> [Two (2) rockets will be Launched in this category and the average of
> the 2 rockets will be your score.] [No larger than a B-6-4 engine can be
> used in this event.]
>
> >
>
> > Streamer Duration- The time that the Rocket stays in the air from time
> of launch until the rocket touches down or can no longer be seen. [Two
> (2) rockets will be Launched in this category and the average of the 2
> rockets will be your score.] [No larger than a B-6-4 engine can be used
> in this event.]
>
> >
>
> > Spot landing- In this event there will be three categories 30, 65, 100
> meters. Two (2) rockets will be launched for each distance. The average
> of the 2 rockets will be your score. You may use any type of recovery
> system (streamer or parachute.) During this event 6 teams will launch at
> the same time. Once all teams have fired their rocket, one team member
> will go and stand by their team's rocket which will then be measured.
> (No larger than an A-8-3 engine will be used in this event.)
>
> >
>
> > Best Rocket- Will be judged by how the rocket is designed, built,
> painted and detailed scheme. An important criterion is how professional
> it looks. The rocket does not have to be launched in any order
> categories. (Only 1 rocket in this category per team)
>
> >
>
> > Mosquito Drag Racing- All rockets will be launched at the same time.
> One team member from each team will have 2 minutes to go and find their
> rocket. When the whistle is blown, you may pick up your rocket and run
> back to the designated finish line. This event will be judged for 1st,
> 2nd, and 3rd place trophies.
>
> >
>
> > Exhibition- This is the show off event. Teams may use one or two stage
> designs with no larger than a C class engine, larger entries require
> prior approval due to the proximity of a municipal airfield. The rocket
> must be recovered to be scored. Random Judges from different schools or
> a distinguished honorary guest may judge the best rocket. Awards will be
> handed out for 1st, 2nd; 3rd.
>
> >
>
> > Misfires - If the make-up shot for the misfired rocket also misfires,
> the rocket will be scored as zero (0) points for that event.
>
> >
>
> > Launching Orders- Teams will draw a number from a hat, which will
> determine what order they will launch.
>
> >
>
> > Scoring- Trophies will be awarded for first, second, and third place
> for each category.
>
> >
>
> > Overall Championship Awards
>
> >
>
> > 15 points for each 1st place win in each category.
>
> >
>
> > 10 points for each 2nd place win in each category.
>
> >
>
> > 5 points for each 3rd place win in each category.
>
> >
>
> > In the event of a tie in the over all awards competition, the winner
> will be declared by the amount of trophies the team won.
>
> >
>
> > Mosquito Drag racing will not be counted in the over all awards.
>
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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