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Re: "Idol worship versus Deity worship" (Isa Das) - is Mosaic iconoclasm based on a simple misunderstanding of pagan iconophilia?

> I recall no lesser a personality than Maramalai Adikal specifically
arguing against
adopting the practice of devotees streaming into the mulasthanam.


Dear Arul, I'm curious why he said that, and why your caution? Admittedly
there might be some crazed ones that may deface of defile the murthy.

I'll all for priesthood opened for all including non indian Hindus, and pujas
in tamil, as well as in Hindi or in any language of the local community.
There are Hindu chants in Balinese as well as in Thai. I hope overseas Hindus
write prayer chants in the language of their resident countries; in english,
spanish or whatever. We could also mix and chant, in sanskrit, tamil, english
etc. I do that daily! If one is praying to God mentally the language used would
be one that is usually spoken by the native, and by the english educated ones
it would normally be in english and that is perfectly acceptable.

Regards.

Pathma




>
> However, let's first see the priesthood opened up to ALL suitably qualified
(by merit,
NOT by birth) and restoring grace to the mulasthanam by bringing back prayers in
Tamil.
>
> Anbudan
> ARUL





Tue Jan 2, 2007 6:02 am

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For the past several decades, and especially since the Six-Day War in 1967, the centrepiece of US Middle Eastern policy has been its relationship with Israel....
Sunthar Visuvalingam
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Dec 12, 2006
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Hello William, The primary intent underlying my post was indeed to provoke interreligious dialogue - particularly between Judaism and Hinduism - by remaining ...
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Dec 13, 2006
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RABBI: Here are two verses from the Holy Torah that mention idol worship: "Cursed is the man who carves an image or casts an idol -- a thing detestable to the...
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You'll find the relevant discussion of iconoclasm as a powerful, historically sustained, impulse already tending to 'deconstruct' Islam from within (as opposed...
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Dec 16, 2006
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1) Can one embark on an exercise in comparative religion, especially the postulate of common roots to Judaism and Hinduism, on the basis of phonological (no...
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Dec 17, 2006
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I'm in the process of compiling (much editing remains to be done...) our thread on the politics of iconophilia at our svAbhinava site at ...
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Dec 18, 2006
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A two-part essay (work in progress) on the History of Hindu-Bauddham socio-cultural history http://docs.google.com/View?id=ajhwbkz2nkfv_49fgccw3 ...
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Granted that Hindu icons are elaborated in the manner of a "text" such that (true) worship requires a (correct) "reading" (that derives from a semiotics of the...
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Dec 20, 2006
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Hello Philip, Over and above those physical descriptions of God cited by William Glick, there are extraordinarily vivid and detailed descriptions of his Body...
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Dec 20, 2006
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The interrogations of mine [below] ought to be replaced within the larger original context of this thread, which is the (seemingly) irreconcilable opposition...
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Dec 25, 2006
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Dear Philip, Yes, this fundamental contradiction between anthropomorphic imagery (the figure of the angel Metatron in the Merkava literature is an excellent ...
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Dec 25, 2006
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Michael, Thanks for the timely clarification that I shall forward to the relevant lists so that the "quote" is not repeated by others. I recall having read it ...
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Dec 26, 2006
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* Ashokji has indeed hit the nail on the head by asking very simply "what's wrong with being an idolater?" Let's concede, for argument's sake, that Hindu...
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4) Though the figure of Lilith, the dark side of the Shekhinah ( or the "Hebrew Goddess"), figures prominently in the (esp. magical writings of) the Kabbala,...
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Dec 30, 2006
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I would hasten to add, of course, that this forum (unlike its sister groups) is explicitly dedicated to the dissemination of Abhinavagupta's realizations,...
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Here are some interrogations intended to carry this discussion further (by displacing some coordinates...and eventually its center of gravity) instead of going...
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How far can one go in "reforming" Hinduism through "regretting" the caste-system (as an illegitimate accretion?) without interrogating the religious sanction...
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Dec 31, 2006
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Dear Sunthar, your wonderings are valid. ... There is no stopping with regretting. Everything is relooked, interrogated and questioned. That has been made...
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Jan 1, 2007
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Pathma, good thought. But there may be need for caution on the following point: QUOTE I have suggested that there be 'open days' where all devotees can enter...
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Jan 1, 2007
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... adopting the practice of devotees streaming into the mulasthanam. Dear Arul, I'm curious why he said that, and why your caution? Admittedly there might be...
Pathmarajah Nagalingam
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Jan 2, 2007
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On one occasion, when the sages could not agree as to which of the three gods—Brahma, Vishnu and Siva—was best entitled to the worship of Brahmanas, the...
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Jan 6, 2007
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"Cutting all the stones to be cut, carving all the stones to be carved, boring all the stones to be bored, such are the three aspects of the silpis art. The...
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Jan 8, 2007
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* I'm not saying that "idol worship caused the fossilization of the caste-system," much less that the latter is derived from the former. What I'm saying is...
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Jan 7, 2007
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In the post to which you are responding, I am dialoguing not with an iconoclastic Christian, who affirms that "idol-worship" is evil, but with a devout Hindu...
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Jan 7, 2007
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"I had said that the real method of breaking up the Caste System was not to bring about inter-caste dinners and inter-caste marriages but to destroy the ...
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Jan 24, 2007
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I visited the webpage containing the following speech by Ambedkar, referred to as follows in Sunthar's message (appended below): QUOTE B.R. Ambedkar, "The...
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