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Try www.kindredtrails.com/zambia.html.

As far as I can see, Zambia was not able to provide Birth
Certificates for people born before 1973 when compulsory registration
came in.  I found a site of the Embassy in Sweden which provided only
for obtaining documents for people born since then, not before, so I
suppose that initially they didn't keep any records and it took that
long after self-government to get a records system set up.

On 14 Aug 2012, at 5:33 PM, Colin Liddell wrote:

> I am helping a friend who was born in Livingstone, Rhodesia in 1956
> who would like to obtain her birth certificate.
> Can anyone suggest how she should go about it or where to apply?
>
> Fingers crossed!
>
> Colin in not so sunny Queensland

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I haven't seen much discussion of this among genealogists, perhaps because we
are always looking backward while going forward, but it could have profound
implications for future genealogists.

Africa: Experts At CRVs Conference in Critical Talks
Tagged: Africa, Ecotourism, NGO, South Africa, Southern Africa, Sustainable
Development, Travel
By Irene Naidoo, 3 September 2012

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Durban — Experts meeting at the 2nd Civil Registration and Vital Statistics
Conference are currently locked in critical discussions and debates on how to
improve the field on the African continent.

The experts are meeting in Durban until Wednesday and are expected to set the
tone for the ministerial meeting and to a large extent, influence the shape
of its outcomes, said Dimitri Sanga, Director at the African Centre for
Statistics at the United Nations Economic Commission for Africa.

"It is extremely crucial that in the next three days, experts discuss and
debate all technical issues related to the improvement of civil registration
in Africa... in order to help your ministers provide clear policy guidelines
in the improvement of these systems," he told the delegates at the start of
the conference on Monday.

Deputy Minister of Home Affairs Minister Fatima Chohan was also at the
conference's opening, where she highlighted the critical role civil
registration and vital statistics played in advancing the continents'
developmental agenda.

Civil registration and the gathering of vital statistics was about
development, success, and prosperity, she stressed.

"Without an accurate database of its citizens, their status and other vital
information, a country can't even begin to call itself a proper democracy...
How do you conduct free and fair elections? It simply cannot account for its
own security and it cannot become prosperous," Chohan added.

Without accurate statistics, governments would end up building sports stadia
where hospitals were required; would build schools that were inaccessible;
and would invest millions on roads that no one would use, she pointed out.

Experts discussing the civil registration and vital statistics had the
opportunity ensure the prevalence of democracy and sound governance in all
African countries and the ability to be able to "pluck from the tree of
prosperity", Chohan added.

In his address to delegates, KwaZulu-Natal Premier Zweli Mkhize said that
civil registration and vital statistics were fundamental to everything
countries and governments planned and carried out.

"For planning, we require accurate data and vital statistics, and for the
execution of government programmes and service delivery. In the absence of
accurate data, vital statistics and civil registration, it makes it difficult
to quantify," he added.

Accurate data was also important in order to ensure that the resources of a
country were equitably distributed across its population.

The experts are meeting at the Durban International Convention Centre ahead
of the Ministerial Conference on 6 and 7 September.

Their meeting is expected to provide a comprehensive analytical framework and
a roadmap that will culminate in recommendations for the ministers to
deliberate upon and ratify.

The conference, held under the theme 'Improving Civil Registration and Vital
Statistics Institutional and Human Infrastructure in Africa', is coordinated
by the United Nations Economic Commission for Africa (UNECA), the African
Union Commission (AUC), African Development Bank, and hosted by the South
African Government.

The Ministerial Conference will be chaired by Home Affairs Minister and
Chairperson of the AU Commission Nkosazana Dlamini Zuma.

Fifty-four African Ministers responsible for civil registration and vital
statistics are expected to attend the conference, as well as about 500
delegates from African countries including senior civil registration
technical experts, development partners, young statisticians and professional
associations.

The South African government delegation will be led by Dlamini Zuma and
include representatives of the Ministries of Home Affairs, International
Relations and Co-operation, Health, Social Development, SAPS, Defence and
Stats SA.

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In the Cape Archives there is a document (A610) by William Charles Titterton
on the history of his family, which includes the TITTERTON, MORRIS and
HUSKISSON families who lived in the Cape Colony and traded in what is now
Namibia, and also St Helena. .

We looked at the document when we were in the Western Cape on holiday in 2003
and made notes from it. We were hoping to find some link with our family,
because we knew from books that my wife's 3g grandfather STEWARDSON had
married a MORRIS, mainly because the missionary CH HAHN wrote in his diary of
the arrival from the Bay of STEWARDSON with "his brother-in-law, the Wesleyan
trader MORRIS, with whom he lives in fierce enmity". HAHN, a Lutheran, was
deeply suspicious of Wesleyans, whom he regarded as heretics.

No first names, so it's not very helpful, but perhaps the "fierce enmity" is
why there is no mention of the Stewardsons in the Titterton manuscript.

But now we have found that Mrs STEWARDSON was indeed Frances MORRIS, and the
sister of James MORRIS the trader, who is definitely recorded in the
manuscript (he was the grandfather of the author).

So now that we have established a definite link with these fairly well-
documented families, I wonder if anyone else here is researching them.

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HiAll

With reference to the familysearch.org collections I am in the process of
transcribing the marriages and baptisms for Burgersdorp.

Go to:

http://africangenealogy.blogspot.com

If you want more information on the participants in each record the fist column
refers to the no of the image in the collection.

Most of the images are from the Gereformeerde kerk collection

Have fun

Gwyn

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Is anyone researching MORRIS families in the Western Cape, or Namaland &
Damaraland (now part of Namibia)?

I've written something about our MORRIS family here:

http://su.pr/2N07DT

In the course of researching this family I found on Google a couple of
messages on other mailing lists from a Pip Curling in Zimbabwe who was
researching Morris, but messages sent to that address bounced. I was hoping
that Pip Curling could look at it to see if we were researching related
families, though MORRIS is a fairly common name, so perhaps not, but it's
useful to know about other people's research for purposes of elimination --
it is almost as useful to know which people are not related as to know which
people are related.


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Hi All

I have just updated my Burgersdorp  Baptisms 1889-1940 to Part 19 or 1912 at:

http://africangenealogy.blogspot.com/

I have been adding on each year as there are about 100 baptisms every year.

The site is searchable so you should be able to type in the required name and
you should be able to find the people you are looking for.

One note:  Because the dominees had their own way of spelling I have tried to
make each name the same spelling, such as van Wyk starts off as van Wijk but
halfway turns into van Wyk.  Coetsee includes Koetsee and Coetzee. Myburg
includes Myberg, Myburgh and Mijburg, etc.

Enjoy.

Gwyn

Attempted murder — but who was the intended victim?

The German missionary Carl Hugo Hahn wrote the following entry in his diary
on 11 July 1859:

     Der früher erwähnte Willem Meintjies hat einen Mordversuch auf Fr.[?]
Stewardson gemacht. Man benachrichtigte mich davon von ther Mine aus, und
Jonker, den ich davon in kenntnis setzte, versprach auf Bestimmteste, ihn
einfangen zu lassen.

I’m not a German fundi, so I tried Google translate and Bing, without much
success; their efforts did not make much sense. One said a suicide attempt,
the other an assassination attempt. So my attempted translation is as
follows:

     “The previously mentioned Willem Meintjies made a murder attempt on Fr.
Stewardson. They informed me of this from the mine, and Jonker, when I
informed him of this, promised that he would definitely arrest him” (Hahn
Diary, 11 Jul 1859).

I would be grateful if anyone who knows German better than I do could comment
on and possibly improve the translation.

But the biggest problem is not so much the translation as the interpretation,
and for that some of the background and backstory is needed.

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At last I have completed this collection on the Gereformeerde kerk.

There are 200 images each of which have about twenty names, some of which are
duplicated. That means there are about 2,500 baptisms in the collection and then
there are the parents of those children.

Lots of names.

Enjoy.

Gwyn

For many years we have been puzzled by some DIXON connections in Namibia.

We are interested in the MORRIS and STEWARDSON families, and we know that a
MORRIS family (related to us) went to Damaraland in 1843/44 with a DIXON
family, and each family built a house at Sandfontein on the Kuiseb River,
near Walvis Bay.

Mrs Morris gave birth to a daughter there, whose name was Sarah Annie Kuisip
Morris -- named after the river where she was born. All this we know from
estate files and divorce papers in the Cape Archives and various pribnted
books.

Sarah Annnie Kuisip Morris's aunt Frances Morris arrived soon afterwards,
with her husband Frank STEWARDSON, and they had three sons and four
daughters. We have no idea what happened to the sons, but the daughters
married Oscar LINDHOLM, Axel ERIKSSON, John GUNNING and Frederick GREEN.

Frederick Green's first wife was a DIXON -- Kate Stewardson was his third
wife. But we don't know his Dixon wife's first name.

And two Gunning girls married DIXONs.

Charlotte Annie GUNNING
Catherine Elizabeth GUNNING

But we don't know the first names of those Dixons either.

This is where things begin to get complicated, because it appears that there
were at least two, and possibly three or four different Dixon families in
Damaraland in the period 1840-1880.

They were:

1. The Ben Dixon family
2. The Peter Dixon family
and possibly
3. The Sidney Dixon family (Sidney may be an alias for Ben)
4. Another Peter Dixon family

A book has recently been published on the Ben Dixon family. We are having
difficulty in getting a copy because of the post office strike, but have been
in touch with one of the authors.

We have collected a fair amount of information on the Peter Dixon family,
mainly in the Cape Archives, and the author of the Ben Dixon book has told us
that none of the names in the two families match -- they really do seem to be
two entirely different families, with no links at all.

We're hoping to go on a research trip to Namibia later in the year, and tie
up some of these loose ends, but in the mean time we're trying to .sort out
what we know of the Dixon families, so that if we do discover which Dixons
marruied the Gunning girls, we'll know which Dixon family they belonged to --
it would be funny if one married into one family, and the other into the
other family.

Of the Peter Dixon family we know that he married twice, first to Wilhelmina
Hendrikse, and second to Annie Cloete. The children of his first marriage are
listed on his death notice in the Cape Archives, but those of the second
marriage weren't known -- presumably they stayed in Damaraland and never went
to the Cape.

It is through his son Daniel Esma Dixon (there are lots of Daniel Esma Dixons
in this family) that we know that Fred Green married a Dixon -- in testimony
in a court case in Windhoek in 1911 he said that he had arrived in Walvis Bay
from Cape Town in 1861 with his brother in law Fred Green, at the age of 14.
His sister had died the year before, and Fred Green was cohabiting with a
Herero woman (she later gave evidence in the same court case, and her name
was Sarah Kaipukire) Daniel Esma Dixon then went to his father in Walvis Bay,
and returned to the Cape for a while. He later farmed at Ubib, near Karibib.

I'm just wondering if anyone else has connections with Dixon families in
Namibia.






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