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The one statemant that you made that is true is that you do not have the facts Your take on the situation is one of the more inacurate that has been read

Above is from live@... (with no name)

From Pastor Lomacang pastorlomacang@...

Hello Believer (at least I did not get your name in the email),

This is pastor Lomacang of 3ABN. Thanks for your email. I understand your pain and disappointment at what you have been hearing. I would like to speak to you because in all honesty you have been given gross-misinformation about the truth of the matter. I am giving you my phone number so that you can call me. I refuse to put anything in writing that will be forwarded on the internet. So if you can call me I would greatly appreciate it. I am out of town and will be back on the 31st of August.

If you honestly want to know the truth you can call me. Sorry for the misrepresentations that you have read and heard. When we talk on the phone you can ask me any questions that you wish. I am leaving my home number. Please call me. If there is anyone who is willing to hear what they are not being told yoiu can have them call me there also.

Until we speak suffice it to say, 3ABN is NOT spending its time trying to grind Linda Shelton in the dust. If you notice what is happening, there are no detailed letters from 3ABN trying to destroy Linda. One of the reasons why this "saga" continues on the internet, from the Scandanavian connection, is because we have not taken the lower road in destruction. Linda is where she is not because or any decision on 3ABN's part but because of her own repetative decisions, void of any coersion on 3ABN's part.

In the meanwhile, pray that the Devil will not have his way in discouraging you.

In Christ,
Pastor John Lomacang
618-627-2999 office



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Fri Aug 25, 2006 12:52 am

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These are the two responses: The one statemant that you made that is true is that you do not have the facts Your take on the situation is one of the more...
Believer
chalcedony3 Offline Send Email
Aug 25, 2006
12:58 am

whoever sent the letter I just want you to know I have apologized for you. Judy In a message dated 8/24/2006 8:58:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ...
oneJudyD@...
onejudyd Offline Send Email
Aug 25, 2006
2:30 am

The responses are no surprise, that's what they've been saying all along. The matter now is who's telling the truth? There are just too many things that don't...
Ulicia
mydedication... Offline Send Email
Aug 25, 2006
5:21 am

I am not on Danny's side but also something doesn't ate up with Linda. She has her contract on her website that she signed. She agreed to 45,000.00 and ...
oneJudyD@...
onejudyd Offline Send Email
Aug 25, 2006
8:16 am

This is two years old. Let's move on. n a message dated 8/25/2006 1:22:07 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mydedication2000@... writes: The responses are no...
oneJudyD@...
onejudyd Offline Send Email
Aug 25, 2006
9:12 am

No, I don't think we can just move on, especially since it isn't just about Linda, and isn't just two years old. I spoke with Hal Steenson, head of the...
Bob Pickle
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Aug 25, 2006
12:04 pm

That's fine go ahead and do what you all must. Judy ... From: bob@... To: adventism_prophecy@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 8:00 AM ...
oneJudyD@...
onejudyd Offline Send Email
Aug 25, 2006
12:42 pm

It seems Bob, that what you are trying to do would be the true way of addressing this whole mess. The situation won't just go away. Take the points one by one...
Ulicia
mydedication... Offline Send Email
Aug 25, 2006
6:59 pm

And if that's all the tape was about, why would he have gotten so upset at my request to listen to it? Bob...
Bob Pickle
bpickle144 Offline Send Email
Aug 25, 2006
7:07 pm

Thank you all for your responses. I am concerned about this case very much because of the apparent injustice and unchristianlike behaviour that is PUBLICLY...
Believer In-God
chalcedony3 Offline Send Email
Aug 25, 2006
9:40 pm

(Note: The actual affidavit of the irregular change to the 1950 Church manual in the matter of indulgence for unscriptural divorce, is at the bottom of this...
vilis7x7 Offline Send Email Aug 26, 2006
5:20 pm

Paul writes. 1 Corin 7:1Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: [It is] good for a man not to touch a woman. 7:2Nevertheless, [to avoid]...
oneJudyD@...
onejudyd Offline Send Email
Aug 26, 2006
5:42 pm

Jesus said, "As it was in the days of Noah, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage till the flood came and destroyed them all. That's...
Ulicia
mydedication... Offline Send Email
Aug 27, 2006
1:01 am

I once had to have a Bible study with old ladies in order to show them that even if both the adult SS teacher and his/her "special" live-in friend were not...
Bob Pickle
bpickle144 Offline Send Email
Aug 27, 2006
1:47 pm

Hmmmm, Bob this raises some questions. Do we now develop a screening list of "sins" that would preclude people from transferring to another church? This would...
nifty50
onlinenow_4u Offline Send Email
Aug 27, 2006
4:28 pm

Blatant disregard for the commandments of God should not be sanctioned by the church. While we have no business judging people's commitment or spirituality --...
Ulicia
mydedication... Offline Send Email
Aug 28, 2006
4:14 pm

Hmmm. Should blatant disregard of this passage of Scripture should be made a matter of church "discipline"? How can someone hold the office of elder, for...
Bob Pickle
bpickle144 Offline Send Email
Aug 28, 2006
5:04 pm

Hi David. We need to be very careful that we do not manufacture tests of fellowship, but the fact of the matter is that we do indeed have tests of fellowship...
Bob Pickle
bpickle144 Offline Send Email
Aug 28, 2006
5:02 pm

I agree Bob re the manufacturing comment..but the probelm I was implying in my comment happens when we consider "what is work on the sabbath," it just all gets...
nifty50@...
onlinenow_4u Offline Send Email
Aug 29, 2006
2:42 am

The Church Manual on pages 194 and 195 give the following. You can read it online at ...
Bob Pickle
bpickle144 Offline Send Email
Aug 29, 2006
12:32 pm

Thanks Bob What about people who grab some job that is "OK to do on Sabbath" just so they don't have to worry about it? I am wondering how far...
nifty50@...
onlinenow_4u Offline Send Email
Aug 29, 2006
1:06 pm

Hi David. Sometimes we tend to talk about the exceptions and forget about the rule. We need to guard against that. In other words, just because there are some...
Bob Pickle
bpickle144 Offline Send Email
Aug 29, 2006
1:46 pm

Bob it is not my intentions to ignore "the cut and dried" here. I am asking what the "cut and dried" is, and saying that I don't think we even know. Why else...
nifty50@...
onlinenow_4u Offline Send Email
Aug 29, 2006
2:42 pm

I'm not sure I understand your meaning. One thought I've toyed with is that if the time of trouble began in the first decade of the 1900's, as EGW indicates...
Bob Pickle
bpickle144 Offline Send Email
Aug 29, 2006
3:56 pm

Here are three quotes from EGW regarding disfellowshipping over things that rarely are made an issue today. "Those who take upon themselves the name of Christ,...
Bob Pickle
bpickle144 Offline Send Email
Aug 29, 2006
4:27 pm

Oops. I must have overwritten the second of those three quotes, the one that should have said something about gossip. Here it is, along with a couple others I...
Bob Pickle
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Aug 30, 2006
1:52 am
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