--- In advaitajnana@yahoogroups.com, "saktidasa" <saktidasa@y...>
wrote:
> --- In advaitajnana@yahoogroups.com, "Tony OClery" <aoclery@y...>
> wrote:
> Namaste,
>
> A handful of humans on the planet right now have probably achieved
> Moksha. A somewhat lesser amount of animals will have done the
same.
> Once you take away the advantage of human brain hardware, which is
> mostly unused, we have only an IQ difference of 10-20 points.
> An animal achieves Moksha through self sacrifice and pure Bhakti. A
> great discriminatory brain is not necessary....99% of humans are
> actully human animals aspiring to be humans, but have karmic
baggage
> the animal world doesn't have.........ONS...Tony.
>
> PS. Bhakti is really to create Ekagratha or one pointedness, and a
> great discriminatory mind isn't necessary. There are many tribals
> and uneducated people who no doubt attain Moksha, which is a
> subjective process anyway. The whole process is to become the
> great 'I' which at the same time realises Nir guna, which prior to
> that may not have been understood or even desired as such. Lakshmi
> the cow, channeled all her mind, the thorn, into pure love of
> Ramana, so focussed she became the 'Great Love Energy-I'. One must
> remind oneself that 'God' doesn't have a
> mind..............ONS...Tony.


Namaste,

I don't think we have to take into account the possibility of sages
disguised as animals re Lakshmi. An animal is just as able to attain
Moksha as a human being if it is through love or bhakti. After all
we are animals ourselves. Ramana isn't the only Sage to say that
animals can achieve Moksha. Even people on the astral can achieve
moksha the same way, through love and becoming love, and they don't
have the hardware of a human brain either.
Let us remember that ultimately 'God' doesn't have a mind, but yet
an animal is still God, and we cannot make value judgements on who
is more god and less god.........There is only one soul in the
universe...........ONS...Tony.