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--- In shriadishakti@yahoogroups.com, "Isha" <shanti442@y...> wrote:
>
> "But for how long will this chakra charade continue before the
> common sense of WHY prevails - 5, 10, 20 years?"
>
> Unfortunately there is no longer that kind of time. Now I've been
> hearing that in the states people are getting their self
> realization like that's all there is to it. I'm happy on one side -
> because that means less insanity walking the streets. But on the
> other end, you have awakened their Kundalinis to still be in the
> Dark about what is going on in our world today.
>
> So what do we do?
>

i remember the days of the Vietnam War, an event that consumed quite
a lot of my attention. At that time war was justified by the
Americans drumming up the fear of the domino affect, which may have
had an element of truth. It was argued that other countries - Laos,
Cambodia, Burma, Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore - will fall in quick
succession to the Communist tide unless a determined stand was made
in South Vietnam. Those were the days when the Cold War was at its
height and i became concerned that if Vietnam fell to the Vietcong,
it would only embolden their ambition to spread communism to the rest
of South-East Asia.

So i started looking for an exit out of Malaysia. The closest
sanctuary was Australia. The only problem was that at that time
the "whites only" immigration policy was in place, and i could only
dream of their apples, pears and cheese constantly advertised in Asia
Magazine to lure tourists and students. Colored folks were only
welcomed to spend money in Angle-Saxon Australia to benefit
the "white" economy. The most insulting of this discriminatory policy
was that apartheid-mentality South Afrikaans were given red carpet
welcome in a land seized by hunting down aborigines with the same
zeal and respect given to dingoes.

i realized that there was little chance of seeking refuge overseas.
Worse come to worse i would flee to India and live off the few acres
of my father's land in Punjab. So i paid special attention to the
progress of the Vietnam war.

The B-52s were raining bombs like nothing else in history. More bombs
were dropped by American planes in the Quang Tri province in Vietnam
than in the whole of Europe in World War II. As the United States is
the most advanced industrial nation in world it made full use of the
latest developments in technology in its war against North Vietnam. B-
52 bombers, that could fly at heights that prevented them being seen
or heard, dropped 8 million tons of bombs on Vietnam between 1965 and
1973. This was over three times the amount of bombs dropped
throughout the whole of the Second World war and worked out at
approximately 300 tons for every man, woman and child living in
Vietnam.

By all counts America should be having the upper hand and achieving
victory soon.

After a few years of body-counting i begun to realize that there was
something wrong with the numbers. By my calculations the almost daily
sorties, coupled with American search and destroy missions, would
have killed a disproportionately far higher number of Vietcong.
Search and destroy were missions aimed at flushing the Viet Cong out
of hiding, while the body count was the measuring stick for the
success of any operation. Competitions were held between units for
the highest number of Vietnamese killed in action, or KIAs. Army and
marine officers knew that promotions were largely based on confirmed
kills.

But there was one major flaw.

The pressure to produce confirmed kills resulted in massive fraud.
One study revealed that American commanders exaggerated body counts
by 100 percent. No wonder my calculations stopped making sense.

So how is this Vietnam search and destroy missions even remotely
related to giving self-realization and Sahaja Yoga? Well, we SYs are
happily counting the number of people trying self-realization, and
keep hyping about the number of people attending health fairs etc.,
and getting free services at SY stalls. What we fail to see is that
those visiting such fairs will try anything that is free. Why not
just check out this free self-realization, whatever it might be, when
others stalls charge money.

So SY organizers have kept counting the number of bodies receiving
kundalini awakening, and are quite pleased with the success of their
operations. And they keep reporting their "successful operations" to
those in charge of spreading Sahaja Yoga.

But there is one major flaw.

The desire to produce confirmed self-realized bodies has resulted in
massive self-delusion. No matter what SYs do no amount of figures is
going to change anything, and the night of Kali Yuga just gets ever
darker. Those hundreds of thousands given self-realization over the
years have not been transformed at all because none have any idea
what happened and why they have to continue doing Sahaja Yoga. They
have had a brief fling with kundalini awakening and, not knowing why
they should carry on meditating, have just disappeared ..........
.......... and continue to do so. And Shri Mataji thus remains as
obscure as ever.

There has to be a way to stop this huge loss of souls who have come
so tantalizingly close to moksa in the promised Blossom Time. This
unforgivable waste must end.

My only suggestion would be that we SYs must announce that the Last
Judgment and Resurrection has begun, an approach that has never been
attempted. It will only take a single paragraph or page on all SY
websites, a miniscule investment of time that will pay incalculable
dividends far in excess of all our efforts over the last three
decades. The benefits are just too overwhelming to comprehend at this
early stage. Seekers must know why they should sustain their self-
realization for the rest of their lives.

As long as this truth is deliberately kept away from the public
Sahaja Yoga will never spread. More than 30 years have passed since
Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi opened the Sahasrara and less than 0.001% of
the world knows about Sahaja Yoga. (i have been liberal and presume
that 6,000,000 people have received self-realization.) But this
generous figure falls to 0.0005% if we speculate on the number who
know it is the Last Judgment.

If it takes 30 years to announce Shri Mataji's message to a mere
0.0005% of humanity, how long will it take to reach just 1%?

6,000,000,000 X 0.001% = 6,000,000 received self-realization over 30
years.
6,000,000,000 X 0.00005 = 300,000 remain in Sahaja Yoga and know
about Last Judgment over 30 years.
6,000,000,000 X 0.00005% X 200 = 60,000,000 (1% of world population)

Right now 0.00005% of humanity know about the Last Judgment. So it
will take another 200 X 30 years to reach 1% of humanity and we can
all celebrate this milestone in AD 8003. Do my calculations make
sense that we SYs must tell what Sahaja Yoga is all about and why
they must stay on to sustain the self-realization?

jagbir







Thu Jun 24, 2004 7:00 pm

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"But for how long will this chakra charade continue before the common sense of WHY prevails - 5, 10, 20 years?" Unfortunately there is no longer that kind of...
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... i remember the days of the Vietnam War, an event that consumed quite a lot of my attention. At that time war was justified by the Americans drumming up the...
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Dear Jagbirji, Then please tell me how is your approach to Sahaja Yoga to a person who has not even heard about it? To a person who knows about Sahaja Yoga but...
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Dear Jagbirji, Jai Mata Ji to you and all members of the group. I have heard about Sahaj Yoga only when I heard about Matashri Nirmala Devi and tried to find...
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... Dear Dalalji, Thanks and welcome to the group. Yes, there are at present no centers in Fiji. i did hear about some SYs trying to set up a center some time...
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... Dear DayalJi, My apologies for misspelling your name. Surely i will remember it now. Sorry. jagbir...
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... Dear Alex and Dayalji, i regard the following verses of the Mundakopanisad to answer the question of Shri Sita's incarnation issuing forth from the Adi ...
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I already sent a message out on the post not to open the file sent by Dr. The .zip file has a virus on it - you may, as administrator of the group, want to...
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Jun 29, 2004
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... Shri Sita takes her origin from the Adi Shakti. It is for this reason that she, along with all the numerous gods and messengers of God, pay obeisance and...
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... "There are, of course, important commonalities among these three religious traditions (Judaism, Christianity and Islam). All three believe in one God who...
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... Tell newcomers the truth from the start, not after weeks/months when we think they are ready. The decades-old approach of not telling the truth till they...
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Hi jagbir and others Im quite surprised that nobody offered to tell me the state of my subtle system. Jagbir, according to you if there was anything so wrong...
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HELLO ALEX Sometimes I am so confused as some things do not fall in place and we get to hear whole lot of new revelations which maybe difficult to take in....
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Dear Alex and Dayal, i am falling behind in replying to both, but will soon. However i feel this misunderstanding about Shri Sita must be cleared beforehand....
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Dear Jagbir Ji and Alex I could have misunderstood - but who is Maharani by the way? Any chance of opening a SY center in FIJI?? Jay. ... From: jagbir singh...
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Hi, Yes, I was talking about SM. i.e that SM was Sita in her last birth. The maharani who I met in mussorie, is merely the narrator of the conversation. ...
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