Hi Joe and friends, Sorry it seems that "the discussion has ground to a halt." Nothing could be further from the truth on my end. It's just that I have very...
Hi Michael, You Write: But I remain committed to exploring the Apostles' Doctrine and, as per our current debate, the current relevance of the *Torah* to the...
... I can answer that real quick. I mean (as do most Jews too) by the word Torah primarily the Pentateuch, but all subsequent revelation from God including the...
Thanks for the Answer Michael, Now then, what is your view of the Talmud? And can you give me the BASIC understanding of the difference between the Mishna...
Hi again Joe, Sorry for my "popcorn" replies. I am getting ready for a stateside trip and thus my energies are focused elsewhere fromour debate at the moment....
Hey Michael, First, my prayers are with your safe travels. Secondly, though I took no offense, these were not *trap questions.* The truth be told, I sense a...
... we come back to it, we can perhaps give it some detailed attention. I know that I have gone back and read Paul in a fresh manner, but some of my...
Hi Dan, You Write: Also I read the psalms and do not see there an expression of what we call "justification" with regard to law. So, the law functions in my...
... under the New Covenant: What is the Christians responsibility in keeping the Law of Moses? Michael may disagree with this as being the Law of Moses, I...
... Yes, we have much in common, Joe. But. . .I think I might shock you and many HCDLers with how much freedom I truly think we have when it comes to...
... Dan, I am in essential agreement. Paul argues in Romans and Galatians, in particular, that justification was ALWAYS by faith. NEVER by the Torah (i.e....
Hi Michael, You Write: You discern correctly. The dichotomy between Law and Grace is artificial. :-) Will you please give some details this statement for me?...
... website. You can read it at http://thetruth.homestead.com/Jew_Gentile_distinction.htm I printed the article at work and relaxed in the early summer hot...
Hi Dan, You wrote: I would think that the new covenant began when the old one was gone or broken. Where does the veil being rent from top to bottom at Jesus' ...
... said was to Jews under the Law of Moses or Old Covenant. His words cannot therefore be extrapolated as immediately relevant to the *new creation* as if he...
Hi Dan, I don't see myself as dispensational although, I can understand why one would. I don't think that we see the law very different but then I may be...
... Joe - your last two sentences here are actually the beginning of your presentation. They comprise the presuppositional framework of your email. However,...
In your mind Dan, what was the purpose of the cross? Joe ... From: DanG To: acts2_42@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 12:45 PM Subject: [acts2_42]...
... The purpose of the cross is the same as the purpose of the cross in your mind. It is the power of salvation that is promised in Genesis and spoken ...
What would you say this means? Gal 2:17-19 But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is therefore Christ the...
... ourselves also are found sinners, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid. (18) For if I *build again* the things which I destroyed, I make...
Hi Dan, Sorry my replies are taking longer. Is it fair to say that the entire context of this passage is centered on Paul rebuking Peter? Wasn't it Peter that...
... myself a transgressor. He is talking about rebuilding the law or reinstituting the law. A person in Christ, is *dead* to the law. I guess this is a...
... You are ignoring a large portion of the New Testament. This one verse reference is a large portion of the New Testament? Look at this context. He is using...
Hi Dan, I'm busy and will write a tome later on this but in the short run, where do you think that righteousness by law came from? Are you insinuating that...
... where do you think that righteousness by law came from? Are you insinuating that this was not an issue until Christians started to get a faulty view of...
Hey all! Sorry to be so unavailable. I still haven't caught up with workload from my stateside trip. But I am reading with rapt interest this thread. Here's a...
Hi Michael, Welcome back! and take your time. Here is a pdf written by NT Wright on the same thing Joe ... From: deborahmillier To: acts2_42@yahoogroups.com ...