Coming to a Kolob Terrace road near you. I doubt they would catch anyone in the
main canyon. Kolob has been the location in the past.

ZION NATIONAL PARK - Zion National Park will enhance law enforcement against
impaired driving over the Fourth of July weekend through expanded DUI
checkpoints and increased road patrols.

Superintendent Jock Whitworth said, "Rangers in the National Parks have two
essential missions. One is to preserve and protect natural and cultural
resources in perpetuity. The other is to provide for the safe enjoyment of those
resources by visitors."

Zion National Park's enforcement is aimed to keep all visitors, local residents,
and wildlife safe on the park's roads. Impaired driving in Zion is especially
dangerous due to the narrow roads, steep drop-offs and sharp turns.

"Alcohol impairs many of the skills that safe driving requires," Whitworth said,
"especially on the unique roadways within Zion National Park. In an effort to
protect visitors and park resources, we will show zero tolerance, and anyone
caught driving with a blood alcohol content of .08 or higher will be arrested."

Please visit our earlier article on Law Enforcement 4th of July crack-down:
Impaired drivers and seat belt violations, addressing data on the problem of
drunk driving over the 4th of July Holiday, other law enforcement initiatives
for the Holiday week, including Utah Highway Patrol.

http://www.stgeorgeutah.com/news/archive/2012/07/03/zero-tolerance-at-zion-natio\
nal-park/#comment-3603

Not going to catch me this year :)

I was supposed to be out in the area for 10 days this week, had some really
great routes planning and was going to take advantage of low water flows but... 
had surgery on Friday and so I'm just on my back trying to move on as fast as
possible.  Sad to miss what has become an annual trip for me.

I'm sure this must have been asked many times in the past, however your advice
would be very greatly appreciated. We are coming to Zion for the first and maybe
only time from the U.K. in May. My wife is a keen photographer and I would like
to hike the Angels Landing trail. Here's the rub, I'm very nervous of heights.
Is the trail as far as Scouts Lookout feasible for me? I know the last half mile
is way beyond me.
Many thanks
Kind Regards
Michael

Michael I think the trail to Scouts Lookout would be feasible for you. There is
a switch back going into Refrigerator canyon that some find intimidating. But
the trail is wide there and you can always hug the rock side vs the cliff side
at that location. Continuing past Scout's lookout is where the exposure starts
to happen.

--- In Zion_National_Park_Hiking@yahoogroups.com, "michael.wallace1953"
<michael.wallace1953@...> wrote:
>
> I'm sure this must have been asked many times in the past, however your advice
would be very greatly appreciated. We are coming to Zion for the first and maybe
only time from the U.K. in May. My wife is a keen photographer and I would like
to hike the Angels Landing trail. Here's the rub, I'm very nervous of heights.
Is the trail as far as Scouts Lookout feasible for me? I know the last half mile
is way beyond me.
> Many thanks
> Kind Regards
> Michael
>

Thanks Shaun, I've just checked out a couple of photos of this switchback, have
to say my first thoughts were "oh bloody hell" but I think maybe you're right
and it is manageable. As for beyond Scouts Lookout , well that is simply not
going to happen. If my wife is lunatic enough (and I suspect she is) to do it
I'll happily wave her off from the relative safety of Scouts Lookout.

--- In Zion_National_Park_Hiking@yahoogroups.com, "Shaun" <trackrunner83@...>
wrote:
>
> Michael I think the trail to Scouts Lookout would be feasible for you. There
is a switch back going into Refrigerator canyon that some find intimidating. But
the trail is wide there and you can always hug the rock side vs the cliff side
at that location. Continuing past Scout's lookout is where the exposure starts
to happen.
>
> --- In Zion_National_Park_Hiking@yahoogroups.com, "michael.wallace1953"
<michael.wallace1953@> wrote:
> >
> > I'm sure this must have been asked many times in the past, however your
advice would be very greatly appreciated. We are coming to Zion for the first
and maybe only time from the U.K. in May. My wife is a keen photographer and I
would like to hike the Angels Landing trail. Here's the rub, I'm very nervous of
heights. Is the trail as far as Scouts Lookout feasible for me? I know the last
half mile is way beyond me.
> > Many thanks
> > Kind Regards
> > Michael
> >
>

 
 
   

I'm sure this must have been asked many times in the past, however your advice would be very greatly appreciated. We are coming to Zion for the first and maybe only time from the U.K. in May. My wife is a keen photographer and I would like to hike the Angels Landing trail. Here's the rub, I'm very nervous of heights. Is the trail as far as Scouts Lookout feasible for me? I know the last half mile is way beyond me.
Many thanks
Kind Regards
Michael  

 
   

Thanks Charlie,
I'm happy now to do Scouts Landing. Observation Point sounds ideal however we
are staying at Las Vegas and family pressures mean we'll only have one day at
Zion. We'll leave Vegas at around 4.30am spend the day at Zion, probably only
having time for Angels Landing trail, and get back to Vegas hopefully around 9
or 10 pm. Does this sound realistic? We Brits constantly underestimate distances
in the US.

--- In Zion_National_Park_Hiking@yahoogroups.com, Madmxe@... wrote:
>
> We just got back from a spring trip. I also do not like heights and Scouts
> landing was no problem. We did the first part of the hike requiring chains
> and  called it a day. It is scary as hell!
> Observation Point is a somewhat strenuous hike we did the next day but  the
> view is great and you look down on Angels Landing. A small bit of revenge I
>  guess:)
> Have a great time.
> Charlie
>
>
> In a message dated 7/5/2012 5:03:20 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> michael.wallace1953@... writes:
>
> I'm  sure this must have been asked many times in the past, however your
> advice  would be very greatly appreciated.
>

I did Angel's Landing in my early 60's.  I am not too keen of heights either. 
Going to Scout's Lookout will be no problem.  The rest of it, I will say I did
and survived--never again.  Start as early as you can hiking and be sure to take
plenty of water.  I had a pack fr my water, as well as a bottle and ran out on
the way down.  Got a larger pack later.  Did The Narrows last year, but in May,
the water is usually too high.  Have a blast.  I love Zion.

Jacqueline O. Chaplin & Waysan (Chinese for precious one)

Roadtrek 2008 210V. San Antonio Race for the Cure 12 May 12--Contact me
w/questions 2102733876.  Sent from my iPad2.

> The first part of Angels Landing is not at all scary IMHO - it is strenuous
though as parts of it are steep. If you are afraid of heights I highly recommend
hiking up to Scouts Landing and then hiking some on the West Rim Trail. It is
absolutely beautiful up there and it is one of my favorite hikes in the area.
Just go as far as you want and then turn around.
Enjoy,
Craig


>
>
>
> Does this sound realistic? We Brits constantly underestimate distances in the
US.
>
>
>
> We drive to Zion from San Diego. So we go thru Vegas on the way. I would say 3
hours each way so you will have plenty of time for your hike. The Southwest is
pretty vast isn't it.
> Cheers!
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: michael.wallace1953 <michael.wallace1953@...>
> To: Zion_National_Park_Hiking <Zion_National_Park_Hiking@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Fri, Jul 6, 2012 1:00 am
> Subject: [Zion_National_Park_Hiking] Re: angels landing
>
>
>
>
> Thanks Charlie,
> I'm happy now to do Scouts Landing. Observation Point sounds ideal however we
are staying at Las Vegas and family pressures mean we'll only have one day at
Zion. We'll leave Vegas at around 4.30am spend the day at Zion, probably only
having time for Angels Landing trail, and get back to Vegas hopefully around 9
or 10 pm. Does this sound realistic? We Brits constantly underestimate distances
in the US.
>
> --- In Zion_National_Park_Hiking@yahoogroups.com, Madmxe@ wrote:
> >
> > We just got back from a spring trip. I also do not like heights and Scouts
> > landing was no problem. We did the first part of the hike requiring chains
> > and called it a day. It is scary as hell!
> > Observation Point is a somewhat strenuous hike we did the next day but the
> > view is great and you look down on Angels Landing. A small bit of revenge I
> > guess:)
> > Have a great time.
> > Charlie
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 7/5/2012 5:03:20 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> > michael.wallace1953@ writes:
> >
> > I'm sure this must have been asked many times in the past, however your
> > advice would be very greatly appreciated.
> >
>

It's heavy over Cedar Mountain and between the South end of Orderville
and Mount Carmel!    That should help with the Shingle Fire!

I am planning to be in the Zion area in August for four days (hiking at Zion
Narrows and Bryce Canyon). I discovered the Bucksking Gulch recently while
researching the area. I want to do a day hike on it (from Wire Pass trailhead up
to the middle trail escape and back), but I know that it is monsoon season in
August. I want to find out what are the best websites for specific weather
conditions to predict floods in the canyon so if I am lucky I want find one of
the four days of my trip dry enough to hike there. I've found a bunch of
websites but I am not sure which are reliable for this hike area and how far
ahead in time these predictions are accurate. I do plan to start hiking very
early since I've read that flood waters arrive later in the day, not sure that
is true, but I've read that for both Buckskin Gulch and the Zion Narrows. Any
suggestions ?

The national weather service has a flash flood potential for Southern Utah page.
Read & understand the ratings.
http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/slc/flashflood/

But Paria/Buckskin is not listed in one of the forecasted areas. You may want to
try the NWS forecast for nearby towns & areas. Check the close towns of Big
Water (try Paria) & include Kanab & Page. If there is a special weather alert or
hazard weather advisory read it. It may given an indication of flash flood
potential.
http://www.weather.gov/

For the trip in August exiting the middle trail you will discover "There are two
easy ways to die in the desert, thirst or drowning." You may want to consider
doing an out and back in the slot with the shade and cooler temperatures. maybe
start early and take a stove to cook breakfast, lunch, & dinner in the slot &
hike out at night.

--- In Zion_National_Park_Hiking@yahoogroups.com, "Carlos T" <catg0124@...>
wrote:
>
> I am planning to be in the Zion area in August for four days (hiking at Zion
Narrows and Bryce Canyon). I discovered the Bucksking Gulch recently while
researching the area. I want to do a day hike on it (from Wire Pass trailhead up
to the middle trail escape and back), but I know that it is monsoon season in
August. I want to find out what are the best websites for specific weather
conditions to predict floods in the canyon so if I am lucky I want find one of
the four days of my trip dry enough to hike there. I've found a bunch of
websites but I am not sure which are reliable for this hike area and how far
ahead in time these predictions are accurate. I do plan to start hiking very
early since I've read that flood waters arrive later in the day, not sure that
is true, but I've read that for both Buckskin Gulch and the Zion Narrows. Any
suggestions ?
>

You are wise to be concerned about the possibility of flooding. That being said,
monsoon can be hit or miss - you may be there during a dry week or a wet week. 
And the flash flood forecast is of only some value, as it is really *potential*
until a local rain event starts, in which case it will generate a flood
watch/warning, but you're way down deep in the canyon at that point.

So understand that thunderstorms are caused by uplift of heated air, so the
probability of storms increases significantly after noon, increasing until
evening.  If the air is very humid, storms may continue overnight too.  Key is
to be on the trail early - and that means moving by sunrise if not first light.

Zion (North Fork) is often hit by storms that are far upstream in the high
country.  If you watch the flow guage in Springdale you'll see that these often
hit in the evening/overnight - that's good for hikers, less so for campers.

For Buckskin, there are two issues.  One is access.  Without 4WD, don't consider
trying to drive down the House Rock Valley road if it wet - you will just get
stuck.  wunderground has the Cedar City NEXRAD radar, and it calculates storm
rainfall totals, so if you look there you can get a good sense if that road got
wet overnight.  It will usually dry out on a sunny day.  You can also call the
BLM office in Kanab; I have found them quite helpful.

Wirepass is cool.  Make sure you're confident about getting back up the dropoff.
South of the confluence you could find a lot of ugly pools and quicksand if it
has flashed in the last few days.  As Shaun says, you'll find it MUCH cooler in
there with its shade than travel on the surface.

A reasonable way to do Buckskin at that time of year is to watch the overnight
rain action (if you are someplace with Internet overnight), hit the road early
enough to get to the trailhead not long after first light, go down Wirepass,
head south from the confluence, and turn around in time to get back to your car
by 3 or so.  Have supplies in the car so you can stay out for a while in case
the road gets wet.

How far you get would depend on how fast you hike and how many pools you hit,
which depends on when it last flowed in there.  The later you exit, the more
likely you are to get flashed.  Don't count on any way above flood waters in
that part of Buckskin.

It is an awesome place and well worth the visit if weather cooperates.  If not,
do something else.

I went in to Buckskin during a very wet monsoon week in late July a few years
ago.  I was on the road from Mt. Carmel Junction by 5.  We hiked in to the
confluence and up and down the gulch, exiting all the narrows before we stopped
to each lunch (well we ate lunch at the last nice shade in Wirepass).  It was a
very good and safe day.  In fact we could have stayed in there 3 more hours, but
could not see enough of the sky to know that.

If you can get out of Vegas at 0430, you'll have plenty of daylight to enjoy
Zion.  You might want to just stay on rt 9 once you get to the park and drive
thru the long tunnel.  At the end of the tunnel is the half mile Canyon Overlook
trail (thrills with little risk when compared to Angels Landing).  Consider
driving the rest of the highway to the East Entrance.  Plenty of roadside
eye-opening scenery.  Then return to the visitor center and the shuttle to the
main canyon.  After Scouts/Angels Landing, try the shady mile long Riverwalk in
the afternoon.

--- In Zion_National_Park_Hiking@yahoogroups.com, "craig" <craig326@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> > The first part of Angels Landing is not at all scary IMHO - it is strenuous
though as parts of it are steep. If you are afraid of heights I highly recommend
hiking up to Scouts Landing and then hiking some on the West Rim Trail. It is
absolutely beautiful up there and it is one of my favorite hikes in the area.
Just go as far as you want and then turn around.
> Enjoy,
> Craig
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> > Does this sound realistic? We Brits constantly underestimate distances in
the US.
> >
> >
> >
> > We drive to Zion from San Diego. So we go thru Vegas on the way. I would say
3 hours each way so you will have plenty of time for your hike. The Southwest is
pretty vast isn't it.
> > Cheers!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: michael.wallace1953 <michael.wallace1953@>
> > To: Zion_National_Park_Hiking <Zion_National_Park_Hiking@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Fri, Jul 6, 2012 1:00 am
> > Subject: [Zion_National_Park_Hiking] Re: angels landing
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks Charlie,
> > I'm happy now to do Scouts Landing. Observation Point sounds ideal however
we are staying at Las Vegas and family pressures mean we'll only have one day at
Zion. We'll leave Vegas at around 4.30am spend the day at Zion, probably only
having time for Angels Landing trail, and get back to Vegas hopefully around 9
or 10 pm. Does this sound realistic? We Brits constantly underestimate distances
in the US.
> >
> > --- In Zion_National_Park_Hiking@yahoogroups.com, Madmxe@ wrote:
> > >
> > > We just got back from a spring trip. I also do not like heights and Scouts
> > > landing was no problem. We did the first part of the hike requiring chains
> > > and called it a day. It is scary as hell!
> > > Observation Point is a somewhat strenuous hike we did the next day but the
> > > view is great and you look down on Angels Landing. A small bit of revenge
I
> > > guess:)
> > > Have a great time.
> > > Charlie
> > >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 7/5/2012 5:03:20 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> > > michael.wallace1953@ writes:
> > >
> > > I'm sure this must have been asked many times in the past, however your
> > > advice would be very greatly appreciated.
> > >
> >
>

Will posh subdivision spring up in Zion National Park?

Public lands » Officials fear housing boom amid park's rocky wonders.

By brandon loomis | The Salt Lake Tribune

Zion National Park • This rocky sanctuary's wild side is showing signs of
civilization — and park managers don't like it.

Multistory scaffolding, stucco and ground-to-ceiling windows have risen this
summer on a tawny patch of earth off of Kolob Terrace Road, setting up a private
view across a slope of native grasses and shrubs to Zion's famed towering rock
cathedrals.

It's the second large home in the past five years to spring up on this road, a
backcountry portal to canyon trails that few but the hardy rope-wielders among
this park's 2.8 million yearly visitors ever see. Federal officials fear it's
just a harbinger of hundreds more to come inside Zion's boundaries.

"You could have thousands," park Superintendent Jock Whitworth said.

How? There's much private land that never got absorbed into the park. Roughly
3,300 acres remain of homesteads that were sandwiched by 147,000 acres of
parklands in 1956, when Congress affixed the Kolob Canyon section to Zion's
core. They are parcels originally intended for acquisition in a dream gone
largely dormant for lack of funding in recent years.

more:
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/54425196-78/park-zion-national-parks.html.csp

Like anybody else who has driven up the Kolob Terrace Road this year, I was
shocked and almost wanted to vomit when I saw that new mega-mansion just east of
the Hop Valley Trailhead. The builders don't seem concerned about keeping things
subtle. Sad thing is that property was for sale a few years back and the park
missed the opportunity to buy it and assimilate it into the greater park.

I remember talking with somebody a few years ago about all of the private insets
in the park and how it was NPS's goal to purchase the insets as they came on the
market. Apparently, that goal doesn't exist anymore or there is no money for it.
I recently bought the 2009 NG map that shows all of the insets; things have
changed quite a bit over the last decade, some for the better, some for the
worse. Red Butte Wilderness for the win!

--- In Zion_National_Park_Hiking@yahoogroups.com, "Shaun" <trackrunner83@...>
wrote:
>
> Will posh subdivision spring up in Zion National Park?
>
> Public lands » Officials fear housing boom amid park's rocky wonders.
>
> By brandon loomis | The Salt Lake Tribune
>
> Zion National Park • This rocky sanctuary's wild side is showing signs of
civilization — and park managers don't like it.
>
> Multistory scaffolding, stucco and ground-to-ceiling windows have risen this
summer on a tawny patch of earth off of Kolob Terrace Road, setting up a private
view across a slope of native grasses and shrubs to Zion's famed towering rock
cathedrals.
>
> It's the second large home in the past five years to spring up on this road, a
backcountry portal to canyon trails that few but the hardy rope-wielders among
this park's 2.8 million yearly visitors ever see. Federal officials fear it's
just a harbinger of hundreds more to come inside Zion's boundaries.
>
> "You could have thousands," park Superintendent Jock Whitworth said.
>
> How? There's much private land that never got absorbed into the park. Roughly
3,300 acres remain of homesteads that were sandwiched by 147,000 acres of
parklands in 1956, when Congress affixed the Kolob Canyon section to Zion's
core. They are parcels originally intended for acquisition in a dream gone
largely dormant for lack of funding in recent years.
>
> more:
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/54425196-78/park-zion-national-parks.html.csp
>

I disagree.

The Park has only had 100 years to purchase this land, and has not. A few nice
houses along the road, a few hundred cattle in the Hop Valley... so what? I
think it is much ado about very little.

To me it sounds like the article-writer has never been there. Yes, there will be
a few lights along a 100 yard stretch of a 16 mile road. so what?

My other thought is that Jock is working the Feds and public up for purchasing
the MIA camp area, another in-holding, but a big one, which would involve a
bunch of money. It would be great if the MIA Camp was brought into the domain of
public land, but in the Park would be unfortunate (as then permits would be
required for Boundary, one of the few top canyons in the area that is accessible
AND does not require driving 30 miles to Springdale to get a permit).

Tom

--- In Zion_National_Park_Hiking@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Braun" <joe@...> wrote:
>
> Like anybody else who has driven up the Kolob Terrace Road this year, I was
shocked and almost wanted to vomit when I saw that new mega-mansion just east of
the Hop Valley Trailhead. The builders don't seem concerned about keeping things
subtle. Sad thing is that property was for sale a few years back and the park
missed the opportunity to buy it and assimilate it into the greater park.
>
> I remember talking with somebody a few years ago about all of the private
insets in the park and how it was NPS's goal to purchase the insets as they came
on the market. Apparently, that goal doesn't exist anymore or there is no money
for it. I recently bought the 2009 NG map that shows all of the insets; things
have changed quite a bit over the last decade, some for the better, some for the
worse. Red Butte Wilderness for the win!
>

Actually, cattle-free Hop Valley would be HUGE. Most people don't seem to notice
how beautiful this stretch of canyon is, but I can picture it cow free and
wonderful. I'd be more into making that happen than picketing Firepit Knoll
turning into the Hamptons. Purchase of the MIA camp area would also be HUGE.

--- In Zion_National_Park_Hiking@yahoogroups.com, "TomJones" <ratagonia@...>
wrote:
>
> I disagree.
>
> The Park has only had 100 years to purchase this land, and has not. A few nice
houses along the road, a few hundred cattle in the Hop Valley... so what? I
think it is much ado about very little.
>
> To me it sounds like the article-writer has never been there. Yes, there will
be a few lights along a 100 yard stretch of a 16 mile road. so what?
>
> My other thought is that Jock is working the Feds and public up for purchasing
the MIA camp area, another in-holding, but a big one, which would involve a
bunch of money. It would be great if the MIA Camp was brought into the domain of
public land, but in the Park would be unfortunate (as then permits would be
required for Boundary, one of the few top canyons in the area that is accessible
AND does not require driving 30 miles to Springdale to get a permit).
>
> Tom
>
> --- In Zion_National_Park_Hiking@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Braun" <joe@> wrote:
> >
> > Like anybody else who has driven up the Kolob Terrace Road this year, I was
shocked and almost wanted to vomit when I saw that new mega-mansion just east of
the Hop Valley Trailhead. The builders don't seem concerned about keeping things
subtle. Sad thing is that property was for sale a few years back and the park
missed the opportunity to buy it and assimilate it into the greater park.
> >
> > I remember talking with somebody a few years ago about all of the private
insets in the park and how it was NPS's goal to purchase the insets as they came
on the market. Apparently, that goal doesn't exist anymore or there is no money
for it. I recently bought the 2009 NG map that shows all of the insets; things
have changed quite a bit over the last decade, some for the better, some for the
worse. Red Butte Wilderness for the win!
> >
>

You mean, Plop Valley?

Yeah, there are some other places around the N Fork where you go to get water
from a beautiful stream, then...

At least it looks like the new homes won't be making any access issues.  Who
knows, the powers that be may be more motivated to maintain that road.
--- In Zion_National_Park_Hiking@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Braun" <joe@...> wrote:
>
> Actually, cattle-free Hop Valley would be HUGE. Most people don't seem to
notice how beautiful this stretch of canyon is, but I can picture it cow free
and wonderful. I'd be more into making that happen than picketing Firepit Knoll
turning into the Hamptons. Purchase of the MIA camp area would also be HUGE.

July 10, 2012

Contact:               Nick Howell- Utah Bureau of Land Management (435) 865-3026

Rachel Tueller- Arizona Bureau of Land Management (435) 688-3303

Jeramie Ybright- Bureau of Indian Affairs (435) 674-9720

David Eaker- National Park Service (435) 772-7811

Kenton Call- Dixie National Forest (435) 865-3730

Mike Melton- UT Division of Forestry, Fire and State Lands (435) 586-4408

Additional Fire Restrictions Implemented in

Central, Southern, Utah and the Arizona Strip

Due to prolonged high fire danger in Utah and northwest Arizona, Color Country Interagency Fire Managers are implementing additional fire restrictions on all public lands and unincorporated state and private lands in Washington, Iron, Beaver, Kane, Garfield, Wayne, Piute, Sevier, and Sanpete Counties, and all Bureau of Land Management (BLM) administered public lands within the Arizona Strip District in Coconino and Mohave Counties in Arizona.  This includes the Grand Staircase Escalante National Monument and excludes the Fishlake National Forest.  The Fishlake National Forest remains in Stage I Restrictions.

Restrictions also include all Bureau of Indian Affairs administered trust lands on the Shivwits Band, Cedar Band, Indian Peaks Band, and Kaibab Band Reservations, Pipe Spring National Monument, and all other Forest Service administered lands beginning Tuesday, July 10 at 00:01 a.m. 

In the Glenn Canyon National Recreation Area, below the high water mark, in areas devoid of vegetation, campfires are still permitted.

These restrictions do not apply to incorporated towns and cities.  However, towns and cities may impose their own restriction orders. Please contact your city fire department for more information. 

The following acts will be prohibited until further notice:

1.            Setting, building, maintaining, attending, or using open fire of any kind (including charcoal) except as otherwise authorized.  This includes all fires in developed areas and previously approved sites.  Devices fueled by petroleum or liquid propane gas (LPG) products are allowed in all locations. 

2.            Smoking, except within an enclosed vehicle, camp trailer, or building, or while stopped in an area at least six feet in diameter that is barren or cleared to mineral soil.

3.            Discharging, or using any kind of fireworks, tracer ammunition, or other incendiary devices in any location on federal lands.

4.            Operating a motorcycle, chainsaw, ATV, or other types of small engines without an approved and working spark arrester.

5.            The cutting, welding or grinding of metal in areas of dry vegetation on federal lands within Washington County, Utah and outside of an enclosed building on the Arizona Strip.

The following acts will be prohibited only in all unincorporated private and state lands within Utah:

6.            The cutting, welding or grinding of metal in areas of dry vegetation.

7.            The use of any steel jacketed or steel core ammunition of any caliber.

8.            The use of exploding targets detonated with a bullet from a firearm.

The following acts will be prohibited only on Forest Service System lands of all ranger districts within the

Dixie National Forest:

9.            Operating motorized vehicles off of designated roads and trails.

10.          Operating a chainsaw or other motorized equipment powered by an internal combustion engine with an approved spark arrester, other than motorized vehicles, between 2:00 P.M. and 2:00 A.M.

11.          Blasting, welding, or other activities that generate open flame between 2:00 P.M. and 2:00 A.M.

12.          Leaving the immediate area or failing to patrol less than one hour after operating a chainsaw or other motorized equipment powered by an internal combustion engine, blasting, welding, or using equipment that generates open flame.

Again, these restrictions do not apply to incorporated town and cities.

All other fire restrictions or necessary exemptions to the restrictions will be handled through local "permits" issued by the responsible agency for that purpose. 

For more information on fires in Utah visit www.utahfireinfo.gov. 
For more information on fires across the country, visit www.inciweb.org.

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Nick Howell

Fire Mitigation and Education Specialist

Color Country District Office

176 East DL Sargent Drive

Cedar City, Utah 84721

Office: (435) 865-3026

Cell Phone: (435) 590-4821

Thanks, Tanya! I'm not used to the big collared lizards, all I typically see are
the small ones. She was just sitting there on a rock above the Left Fork
watching us tourists hike by.

--- In Zion_National_Park_Hiking@yahoogroups.com, tanya_o0o <no_reply@...>
wrote:
>
> Love it!  [:)]
>

While on a hike recently in GTNP I saw some wild mountain goats. I posted a
album showing them in the photos section of this group. I am living,working and
hiking back in Jackson Hole WY this summer.

not sure if others on this know that there is a herd of the same species of
mountain goats that reside in the Tushar Mountains above Beaver, UT.  If you
climb up to either Mt Delano or Mt Holly you are guaranteed to  see them.  Saw
them just two weeks ago during a short trip up there to see wild flowers.

During the last weekend of July the Utah Fish and Wildlife people are set on the
side of the road that leaves Big John Flats with a few telescopes so people can
see the herd close up.

bruce from bryce

--- In Zion_National_Park_Hiking@yahoogroups.com, "cgptsnaz" <cgptsnaz@...>
wrote:
>
> While on a hike recently in GTNP I saw some wild mountain goats. I posted a
album showing them in the photos section of this group. I am living,working and
hiking back in Jackson Hole WY this summer.
>

One of the rangers in GTNP said this species of goat was not common in the
Tetons. First I have ever seen here in 31 years. Big Horn Sheep are very common
tho.

--- In Zion_National_Park_Hiking@yahoogroups.com, "bsilliman2001" <weabruce@...>
wrote:
>
> not sure if others on this know that there is a herd of the same species of
mountain goats that reside in the Tushar Mountains above Beaver, UT.  If you
climb up to either Mt Delano or Mt Holly you are guaranteed to  see them.  Saw
them just two weeks ago during a short trip up there to see wild flowers.
>
> During the last weekend of July the Utah Fish and Wildlife people are set on
the side of the road that leaves Big John Flats with a few telescopes so people
can see the herd close up.
>
> bruce from bryce
>
> --- In Zion_National_Park_Hiking@yahoogroups.com, "cgptsnaz" <cgptsnaz@>
wrote:
> >
> > While on a hike recently in GTNP I saw some wild mountain goats. I posted a
album showing them in the photos section of this group. I am living,working and
hiking back in Jackson Hole WY this summer.
> >
>

www.wimp.com/campstove 1:17 minute video

  For more information go to: http://biolitestove.com/

Pretty amazing that someone came up with a wood burning stove that also
generates electricity? Has anyone tried this, does it work well?

Awesome! Amazing!  I'm ordering one today.

Really.

Tom

--- In Zion_National_Park_Hiking@yahoogroups.com, "cgptsnaz" <cgptsnaz@...>
wrote:
>
> www.wimp.com/campstove 1:17 minute video
>
>  For more information go to: http://biolitestove.com/
>
> Pretty amazing that someone came up with a wood burning stove that also
generates electricity? Has anyone tried this, does it work well?
>

Let me know what you think Tom? A wood stove that will cook and recharge my
camera and flashlight batteries at the same time would be nice.

--- In Zion_National_Park_Hiking@yahoogroups.com, "TomJones" <ratagonia@...>
wrote:
>
> Awesome! Amazing!  I'm ordering one today.
>
> Really.
>
> Tom
>
> --- In Zion_National_Park_Hiking@yahoogroups.com, "cgptsnaz" <cgptsnaz@>
wrote:
> >
> > www.wimp.com/campstove 1:17 minute video
> >
> >  For more information go to: http://biolitestove.com/
> >
> > Pretty amazing that someone came up with a wood burning stove that also
generates electricity? Has anyone tried this, does it work well?
> >
>