I too am very impressed with Outlook.com.  Much better than the old Hotmail
interface.  But Google has provided everything I need and was hoping for from
Yahoo!  Google Drive fills the gap left when Yahoo! Briefcase disappeared.  And
I'm growing to love Google Play for storing and playing my music collection.

I'm still hoping for Yahoo! to make a comeback though.  One can dream ...

Kenneth

--- In Y-Mail@yahoogroups.com, Sumit Mehta <sumit.mehta@...> wrote:
>
> Well I have Calendar tab since last one month. But more surprising is the fact
that you don't have an e-mail account with another webmail service. I have
e-mail accounts with almost all major the webmail service providers, for testing
features and in some cases just to secure desired email id..  Yours is the
hypothetical case of Yahoo! loyalty. 
>
> Anyway, there is Gmail which is no doubt the best. Some people have privacy
concerns about Gmail. That depends on personal preference and trade offs. But I
think you may not get the desired mail address. You can try Outlook.com as well.
Being new service, you may get desired e-mail id. Although it is Microsoft
service, but this time they have seriously done some good work.  
>  
> From: Rob Weigle <rob.weigle@...>
> >To: YMAIL <Y-Mail@yahoogroups.com>
> >Sent: Saturday, October 6, 2012 1:14 AM
> >Subject: [Y-Mail] No calendar tab yet
> >
> >
> > 
> >Despite the announcement over 2 months ago, the rollout of the calendar tab
is not complete yet.  I am not waiting for calendar to work as announced in
Ymail. What this lack has done to me is reinforce my opinion that the mail blog
does not contain truth. I have stuck by Yahoo! this long, but now I am going to
search for a different mail program. Any suggestions?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

I personnally find Gmail o be extremly slow and lagging. Those past two years it
has become very sluggish for me.
Outlook.com is actually pretty nice

--- In Y-Mail@yahoogroups.com, Sumit Mehta <sumit.mehta@...> wrote:
>
> Well I have Calendar tab since last one month. But more surprising is the fact
that you don't have an e-mail account with another webmail service. I have
e-mail accounts with almost all major the webmail service providers, for testing
features and in some cases just to secure desired email id..  Yours is the
hypothetical case of Yahoo! loyalty. 
>
> Anyway, there is Gmail which is no doubt the best. Some people have privacy
concerns about Gmail. That depends on personal preference and trade offs. But I
think you may not get the desired mail address. You can try Outlook.com as well.
Being new service, you may get desired e-mail id. Although it is Microsoft
service, but this time they have seriously done some good work.  
>  
> From: Rob Weigle <rob.weigle@...>
> >To: YMAIL <Y-Mail@yahoogroups.com>
> >Sent: Saturday, October 6, 2012 1:14 AM
> >Subject: [Y-Mail] No calendar tab yet
> >
> >
> > 
> >Despite the announcement over 2 months ago, the rollout of the calendar tab
is not complete yet.  I am not waiting for calendar to work as announced in
Ymail. What this lack has done to me is reinforce my opinion that the mail blog
does not contain truth. I have stuck by Yahoo! this long, but now I am going to
search for a different mail program. Any suggestions?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

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Hi All.. silk here.. being no stranger to this list..I have a very simple question.. What good is this "Calendar" stuff.. i mean is it more than the months and days of the year? I'm not joking am i missing something here.. Cause i just can't see for the life of me how any one with a computer in the year 2012 would be interested in a calendar unless that is it is much, much more than a series of 12 pages. each one for a month.. Is there somethingnhere.. really........???? --- On Sun, 10/7/12, Sumit Mehta <sumit.mehta@...> wrote: From: Sumit Mehta <sumit.mehta@...> Subject: Re: [Y-Mail] No calendar tab yet To: "Y-Mail@yahoogroups.com" <Y-Mail@yahoogroups.com> Date: Sunday, October 7, 2012, 12:03 AM Thanks for the clarification... Happy to inform you that your Yahoo! Extreme Loyalty Certificate is being revoked.... LOL... In my case, I bought a domain and hosted with Google Apps since when it was in beta phase.. It uses Gmail Interface. All my professional mails are handled there. I was using Y-mail for my personal mails. The present Y-mail interface is not bad at all. I don't use Yahoo Calender, so I don't have problem with that. But after launch of Outlook.com, I have started migrating to outlook.com. The service is in beta phase and it is as promising as Gmail when it was in beta phase. So Outlook is also as good bet as Gmail. It has folders like Yahoo and labels like Gmail. It is closely integrated with facebook, twitter, skydrive, online office documents and lots of other features which Yahoo lacks. But the Metro style calender is not yet launched in outlook. Having regard to the pace of development, one can expect it in a month or two. It is to be seen how Yahoo will respond to the competition under the leadership of Marissa Mayer but no doubt, it will take time for yahoo to be back in business.   From: Robert Weigle <rob.weigle@...> To: YMAIL <y-mail@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, October 6, 2012 6:35 PM Subject: RE: [Y-Mail] No calendar tab yet   But more surprising is the fact that you don't have an e-mail account with another webmail service. I need correct the impression you got. I DO have accounts with other webmail services. In fact, I am replying to this from a non-Yahoo account. I have not made this account a member of YMAIL so I send messages as if they come from Yahoo. I am curious what services people have selected and why. Before I go though the trouble of changing my email address I need those opinions. I am not happy with any service I have tried. All have problems that to me have made a switch to them more trouble than it is worth.

Silk and Sassafrass,

I'll try to explain the importance of the calendar stuff.

An online calendar is not a substitute for a wall calendar.  It's not about just
being able to look online at the current month to see what the date is or being
able to look ahead to see what day of the week someone's birthday falls on. 
Rather, an online calendar is a utility which helps us schedule and keep track
of our appointments and events.

For example, my wife and I have five children.  Three of our children are
working.  Neither my wife nor our three working children have regular 9 to 5
jobs.  Their work schedule varies from week to week, including what days of the
week they work, what hours they work, and what location they'll be reporting to
when they work.  In addition, my wife and two of my children are attending
college and their class schedules are all different.  My youngest son, who isn't
working, also has events that need tracking.  He is in band in high school which
requires attending various sporting events and also attending various parades. 
He also has religious education classes he needs to attend.

Because our family is so busy with different schedules for different activities
for different people, we have a lot of appointments and events that we need to
track.  A wall calendar would be useless for this, not only because there
wouldn't be enough room for everything but also because it would be stuck on a
wall somewhere and not available when people are in different locations and need
to check something.  Keep in mind too that schedules are always getting adjusted
as some appointments get canceled and others take their place.  Even if we could
fit everything on a wall calendar using pencil and eraser or sticky notes, it
would be difficult to filter through everything on there to see what someone's
work schedule is for the next week.

With an online calendar utility, you can actually create separate schedules for
each person to display on the calendar.  You can even create separate schedules
for each person's different activitiy types.  I have separate schedules for each
persons work schedule and school schedule.  If I need to know what my wife's
work schedule is, I can click an option to display just that schedule so that
it's easy to view without the clutter of all the other events.  If I need to
know what my son's band schedule, I can select to view just that.  Also,
reminders can be sent prior to each event by email or text message.  Also, the
calendar is accessible from any computer or by phone.

A wall calendar with sticky notes may be sufficient for some people though I
expect even they could benefit from an online calendar with reminders.  But for
some families a wall calendar just won't work.

Kenneth


--- In Y-Mail@yahoogroups.com, Silk <silkvain@...> wrote:
>
> Hi All.. silk here.. being no stranger to this list..I have a very simple
question..
> What good is this "Calendar" stuff.. i mean is it more than the months and
days of the year? I'm not joking am i missing something here.. Cause i just
can't see for the life of me how any one with a computer in the year 2012 would
be interested in a calendar unless that is it is much, much more than a series
of 12 pages. each one for a month..
> Is there somethingnhere.. really........????
>
> --- On Sun, 10/7/12, Sumit Mehta <sumit.mehta@...> wrote:
>
> From: Sumit Mehta <sumit.mehta@...>
> Subject: Re: [Y-Mail] No calendar tab yet
> To: "Y-Mail@yahoogroups.com" <Y-Mail@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Sunday, October 7, 2012, 12:03 AM
>
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> Thanks for the clarification... Happy to inform you that your Yahoo! Extreme
Loyalty Certificate is being revoked.... LOL...
> In my case, I bought a domain and hosted with Google Apps since when it was in
beta phase.. It uses Gmail Interface. All my professional mails are handled
there. I was using Y-mail for my personal mails. The present Y-mail interface is
not bad at all. I don't use Yahoo Calender, so I don't have problem with that.
But after launch of Outlook.com, I have started migrating
>  to outlook.com. The service is in beta phase and it is as promising as Gmail
when it was in beta phase. So Outlook is also as good bet as Gmail. It has
folders like Yahoo and labels like Gmail. It is closely integrated with
facebook, twitter, skydrive, online office documents and lots of other features
which Yahoo lacks. But the Metro style calender is not yet launched in outlook.
Having regard to the pace of development, one can expect it in a month or two.
> It is to be seen how Yahoo will respond to the competition under the
leadership of Marissa Mayer but no doubt, it will take time for yahoo to be back
in
>  business.�  From: Robert Weigle <rob.weigle@...>
>  To: YMAIL <y-mail@yahoogroups.com>
>  Sent: Saturday, October 6, 2012 6:35 PM
>  Subject: RE: [Y-Mail] No calendar tab yet
>
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> But more surprising is the fact that you don't have an e-mail account with
another webmail service.
>
> I need correct the impression you got. I DO have accounts with other webmail
services. In fact, I am replying to this from a non-Yahoo account. I have not
made this account a member of YMAIL so I send messages as if they come from
Yahoo. I am curious what services people have selected and why. Before I go
though the trouble of changing my email address I need those opinions. I am not
happy with any service I have tried. All have problems that to me have made a
switch to them more trouble than it is worth.
>

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Silk and Sassafrass,

I'll try to explain the importance of the calendar stuff.

An online calendar is not a substitute for a wall calendar. It's not about just being able to look online at the current month to see what the date is or being able to look ahead to see what day of the week someone's birthday falls on. Rather, an online calendar is a utility which helps us schedule and keep track of our appointments and events.

For example, my wife and I have five children. Three of our children are working. Neither my wife nor our three working children have regular 9 to 5 jobs. Their work schedule varies from week to week, including what days of the week they work, what hours they work, and what location they'll be reporting to when they work. In addition, my wife and two of my children are attending college and their class schedules are all different. My youngest son, who isn't working, also has events that need tracking. He is in band in high school which requires attending various sporting events and also attending various parades. He also has religious education classes he needs to attend.

Because our family is so busy with different schedules for different activities for different people, we have a lot of appointments and events that we need to track. A wall calendar would be useless for this, not only because there wouldn't be enough room for everything but also because it would be stuck on a wall somewhere and not available when people are in different locations and need to check something. Keep in mind too that schedules are always getting adjusted as some appointments get canceled and others take their place. Even if we could fit everything on a wall calendar using pencil and eraser or sticky notes, it would be difficult to filter through everything on there to see what someone's work schedule is for the next week.

With an online calendar utility, you can actually create separate schedules for each person to display on the calendar. You can even create separate schedules for each person's different activitiy types. I have separate schedules for each persons work schedule and school schedule. If I need to know what my wife's work schedule is, I can click an option to display just that schedule so that it's easy to view without the clutter of all the other events. If I need to know what my son's band schedule, I can select to view just that. Also, reminders can be sent prior to each event by email or text message. Also, the calendar is accessible from any computer or by phone.

A wall calendar with sticky notes may be sufficient for some people though I expect even they could benefit from an online calendar with reminders. But for some families a wall calendar just won't work.

Kenneth

--- In Y-Mail@yahoogroups.com, Silk <silkvain@...> wrote:
>
> Hi All.. silk here.. being no stranger to this list..I have a very simple question..
> What good is this "Calendar" stuff.. i mean is it more than the months and days of the year? I'm not joking am i missing something here.. Cause i just can't see for the life of me how any one with a computer in the year 2012 would be interested in a calendar unless that is it is much, much more than a series of 12 pages. each one for a month..
> Is there somethingnhere.. really........????
>
> --- On Sun, 10/7/12, Sumit Mehta <sumit.mehta@...> wrote:
>
> From: Sumit Mehta <sumit.mehta@...>
> Subject: Re: [Y-Mail] No calendar tab yet
> To: "Y-Mail@yahoogroups.com" <Y-Mail@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Sunday, October 7, 2012, 12:03 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
> Thanks for the clarification... Happy to inform you that your Yahoo! Extreme Loyalty Certificate is being revoked.... LOL...
> In my case, I bought a domain and hosted with Google Apps since when it was in beta phase.. It uses Gmail Interface. All my professional mails are handled there. I was using Y-mail for my personal mails. The present Y-mail interface is not bad at all. I don't use Yahoo Calender, so I don't have problem with that. But after launch of Outlook.com, I have started migrating
> to outlook.com. The service is in beta phase and it is as promising as Gmail when it was in beta phase. So Outlook is also as good bet as Gmail. It has folders like Yahoo and labels like Gmail. It is closely integrated with facebook, twitter, skydrive, online office documents and lots of other features which Yahoo lacks. But the Metro style calender is not yet launched in outlook. Having regard to the pace of development, one can expect it in a month or two.
> It is to be seen how Yahoo will respond to the competition under the leadership of Marissa Mayer but no doubt, it will take time for yahoo to be back in
> business.� From: Robert Weigle <rob.weigle@...>
> To: YMAIL <y-mail@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, October 6, 2012 6:35 PM
> Subject: RE: [Y-Mail] No calendar tab yet
>
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> But more surprising is the fact that you don't have an e-mail account with another webmail service.
>
> I need correct the impression you got. I DO have accounts with other webmail services. In fact, I am replying to this from a non-Yahoo account. I have not made this account a member of YMAIL so I send messages as if they come from Yahoo. I am curious what services people have selected and why. Before I go though the trouble of changing my email address I need those opinions. I am not happy with any service I have tried. All have problems that to me have made a switch to them more trouble than it is worth.
>

Hi All.. silk here.. being no stranger to this list..I have a very simple question.. What good is this "Calendar" stuff.. i mean is it more than the months and days of the year? I'm not joking am i missing something here.. Cause i just can't see for the life of me how any one with a computer in the year 2012 would be interested in a calendar unless that is it is much, much more than a series of 12 pages. each one for a month.. Is there somethingnhere.. really........????

I know exactly what you mean.... If you need to keep track of appointments, I'm sure there's an iphone app that fits the bill. And there's always the good ol' wall calendar or post-it note ;) Seriously, what IS everyone complaining about?

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Silk,

> I have a very simple question... What good is this "Calendar" stuff.. i
> mean is it more than the months and days of the year?

I think what you're missing is reminders. The one thing an electronic calendar
can do that a paper one can't -- get in your face. Whether it is a Yahoo Group
calendar with group-related events, or your personal calendar. The Yahoo
calendar can send you an email a week in advance to remind you to buy and mail
that birthday present, or ring an alert on your smartphone to get to the meeting
in ten minutes.

A bit like the difference between a sundial and an alarm clock. Only more so.

It is the integration of calendar events both in your computer (browser) and in
your phone, so that you can manage the events from either interface, that makes
a Yahoo (or Google) calendar more useful than just Sunbird sitting on my
desktop. A simple desktop calendar app, like a paper calendar, is all too easily
out-of-sight, out-of-mind.

-- Shal

And I ask again, what did people do before computers and the Internet?? Lorrie

--- In Y-Mail@yahoogroups.com, Lorrie <minilorrie@...> wrote:
>
> And I ask again, what did people do before computers and the Internet??
>
> Lorrie
>

Lorrie,

Since you're asking this in response to my post, I guess you're asking what
people did about their calendars before the internet.

There were and still are a variety of different paper calendars.  Wall calendars
of course are not very transportable but there are pocket calendars that are the
size of a checkbook.  These could be carried with a person, presumably in their
pocket or purse.

But you already know this, don't you?  Was the point of asking to jog my own
memory about what we did before we had email and the internet?  I do remember
those days but I certainly have come to appreciate what I can do with the
internet.

Probably my favorite feature of online calendars is the ability to organize
different sets of events/appointments into different schedules or calendars.  My
full calendar with everything displayed is overwhelming if I'm looking for
something in particular.  But I have the option to "display only this calendar"
in Google Calendar and that allows me to display clearly the subset of events I
need to browse.

Another cool feature is the ability to change views from the standard month view
to a week view or day view.  I can even select to just display events in a list.
These options are very useful to me.  A pocket calendar wouldn't be as
beneficial.

Kenneth

I want to know what the error messages mean and what I have to correct to keep
them from reoccurring. Is there a list that explains this? Can someone point me
to a site that will do this?

Thanks. Jim B.

I've never worried too much about the mailer-daemon error codes.  For my
purposes the basic diagnosis is the same.  I've sent an email to an email
address that no longer exists.  Or more typically, someone spoofing my email
address as the sender has sent an email to addresses that don't exist. 
Actually, I think the text in these messages will sometimes give more
information such as the email address doesn't exist or has been discontinued or
the recipients mailbox is full.

Kenneth

--- In Y-Mail@yahoogroups.com, "jimbir" <jimbir@...> wrote:
>
> I want to know what the error messages mean and what I have to correct to keep
them from reoccurring. Is there a list that explains this? Can someone point me
to a site that will do this?
>
> Thanks. Jim B.
>

I've been having problems getting Yahoo Mail on my iPhone and iPad recently
(IMAP and push issues).  Since I pay for Yahoo! Mail Premium (not well named), I
have the option to "forward and store" emails.  I set that up over the weekend
to forward to my iCloud account.  That way when Yahoo failed, I'd still get
emails in a timely manner.

After doing this everything was working well.  Emails sent to my Yahoo account
would show up in the Yahoo Inbox and iCloud Inbox.  That was until this morning.

When I woke up this morning I checked my emails and saw a large number of
"Yahoo" messages in my iCloud inbox, that were not in my Yahoo! Inbox.  Over the
course of the day, these emails started trickling in.  One of them was delayed 7
hours.  According to the message headers, the emails were received by Yahoo
shortly after delivery, but Yahoo just held on to them until they finally showed
up in my Inbox.  In other words, Yahoo received the emails, but never bothered
to deliver them to me.

Ironically the push problem seems to have corrected itself and IMAP is mostly
working, but none of that helps if Yahoo doesn't actually deliver the emails.

Even now, email sent to my Yahoo! box is taking on average 5 minutes to show up
in my Inbox after being received by Yahoo.

Contacting Yahoo support is an exercise in futility.  Contacting their Twitter
feed gets a response to contact support.  Contacting support via chat (when
available) simply says to email support.  Emailing support gets an automated
response stating that someone will get back in 24 to 72 hours, but after 72
hours, there hasn't been a response.

Anyone else having issues or have any ideas on how to get this fixed?

Hye Lorrie,
Before there were computers there was a little gadget called a day planner.  You
physically wrote down your appointments and schedules on the dated pages.  It
could hold info for you, your wife, kids, friends and meetings.  I still use
one, I don't want to find out some tech gadget has powered out and I've lost
everything.  People are getting so lazy and self-important that they need
gadgets to do the work.

Meg

--- In Y-Mail@yahoogroups.com, "Kenneth" <justkenneth@...> wrote:
>
>
> --- In Y-Mail@yahoogroups.com, Lorrie <minilorrie@> wrote:
> >
> > And I ask again, what did people do before computers and the Internet??
> >
> > Lorrie
> >
>
> Lorrie,
>
> Since you're asking this in response to my post, I guess you're asking what
people did about their calendars before the internet.
>
> There were and still are a variety of different paper calendars.  Wall
calendars of course are not very transportable but there are pocket calendars
that are the size of a checkbook.  These could be carried with a person,
presumably in their pocket or purse.
>
> But you already know this, don't you?  Was the point of asking to jog my own
memory about what we did before we had email and the internet?  I do remember
those days but I certainly have come to appreciate what I can do with the
internet.
>
> Probably my favorite feature of online calendars is the ability to organize
different sets of events/appointments into different schedules or calendars.  My
full calendar with everything displayed is overwhelming if I'm looking for
something in particular.  But I have the option to "display only this calendar"
in Google Calendar and that allows me to display clearly the subset of events I
need to browse.
>
> Another cool feature is the ability to change views from the standard month
view to a week view or day view.  I can even select to just display events in a
list.  These options are very useful to me.  A pocket calendar wouldn't be as
beneficial.
>
> Kenneth
>

Yes, The basic diagnosis explanes the problem well enough but what about
the following:

No MX or A records for murrayavaition.com

or

Remote host said: 550 5.1.1 xxxx@...: Recipient address rejected: aol.com
[RCPT_TO]

or

Remote host said: 550 #5.7.1 Your access to submit messages to this e-mail
system has been rejected. [RCPT_TO]

Thanks. Jim B.



On 10/10/2012 1:23 AM, Kenneth wrote:
> I've never worried too much about the mailer-daemon error codes.  For my
purposes the basic diagnosis is the same.  I've sent an email to an email
address that no longer exists.  Or more typically, someone spoofing my email
address as the sender has sent an email to addresses that don't exist. 
Actually, I think the text in these messages will sometimes give more
information such as the email address doesn't exist or has been discontinued or
the recipients mailbox is full.
>
> Kenneth
>
> --- In Y-Mail@yahoogroups.com, "jimbir" <jimbir@...> wrote:
>> I want to know what the error messages mean and what I have to correct to
keep them from reoccurring. Is there a list that explains this? Can someone
point me to a site that will do this?
>>
>> Thanks. Jim B.
>>
>
>
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