For about the last two weeks, I have had the following problem with my
Yahoo email:

When I open up my yahoo page, I am notified that I have 2 or more
messages in my email.  When I open my inbox, there are no new messages
in my inbox.  It is very annoying and I have written Yahoo about
this.  They wrote me back and told me there was no problem with my
account.

I took screenshots and jpeg'd them and sent them to Yahoo for an
explanation.  They have not responded to me after the initial "we got
your email and are looking into the problem" response.  Anyone else
having this annoying problem?

For about the last two weeks, I have had the following problem with my
Yahoo email:

When I open up my yahoo page, I am notified that I have 2 or more
messages in my email. When I open my inbox, there are no new messages
in my inbox. It is very annoying and I have written Yahoo about
this. They wrote me back and told me there was no problem with my
account.

I took screenshots and jpeg'd them and sent them to Yahoo for an
explanation. They have not responded to me after the initial "we got
your email and are looking into the problem" response. Anyone else
having this annoying problem?

I know that one can export contacts from address.yahoo.com, but this
feature should also be included in the contacts section of the new
yahoo mail.

If all of the following rules are true...

From header

To header

Cc header

Bcc header

Subject

Body

• Y! is deferring incoming connections - not all, just some. I am aware of the checklists about proper email, and well, good luck trying to figure out why one email from the same SMTP server is deferred, the other goes through. Both have SPF (only, no DKIM).
    
  
• I don't know where it says that email is blocked instead of simply automatically Junked - re:  (delivered to your Junk Folder), but the point is that it seems blocking is occurring.
    
  
• So if  someone sends you email from an unfortunate [insert whatever criteria here, server, ip, domain, etc.] then there's a chance you'll never get it - and you won't even know about it.
   
  

ON farm 622 in classic mail, you are unable to read the body of emails
nor add attachments and in the beta, mail does not appear at all. On
farm 308, attachments don't appear and words are overlaping links.

I don't know if that'd be do-able.  The whole point of bcc is that
addresses inserted there are not visible (Blind).  The receiving end
is never supposed to know the contents of the bcc.  Being able to
filter by this could violate that rule.


--- In Y-Mail@yahoogroups.com, Bill <billsville_99@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Ryan...I know you wanted us to use that thread you started a
while back....but I just looked for it and can't find it
anywhere....sorry I tried
>
> I'm a bit behind....but last week someone suggested including Bcc
as a "Rule" for Filters.....EXCELLENT SUGGESTION!!!!!!
>
> Ryan...as I'm sure you know.....most Spam and Junk Mail is sent
Using the Bcc field.....it's pretty much a no brainer Ryan.....I
can't figure out why Yahoo left it out......and some people might
have reason to Filter Bcc Mail to a separate Folder....either using
Bcc as a stand alone Rule or in conjunction with others
>
> I think setting it up as it's own "Rule" would be a good
idea....ACTUALLY.....why not separate all 3.....like this
>
> If all of the following rules are true...From headerTo headerCc
headerBcc headerSubjectBody
>
> This would give us the Greatest Flexibility when creating Filters,
Ryan......and we all know how important Filters have become
>
> Bottom Line......if Bcc is offered as an Option for Sending Mail
then we should have it as an Option for Filtering Mail
>
> Ryan I'm Thanking You ahead of time because I'm sure you'll make
this happen
>
> Bill
>

For some reason Yahoo chat never connects in the mail client....??

Well yes, I suppose Y! can see it, but Y! is not allowed to let you
see it.  It's like when accepting a message w/ a Bcc, Y! is taking an
oath to keep the bcc's contents secret.  By letting you filter it,
they would be giving you some knowledge of what the bcc contained,
thus violating the oath.

Aside from the ethical issue of partially revealing the bcc, I don't
think Y! could technically implement filtering by bcc.  When a
message is sent, whether from a Y! server, an MSN server, whatever,
it is a file containing data of the message body, the to, cc, from,
time sent...  I don't think bcc is included in the file.  I'm not
exactly sure, though.  If it is included in the file, the Email
program is under explicit orders to keep it hidden.  So, either case,
the Email program either can't or won't reveal the bcc (hence it
being absent from message headers).

Really, it can't happen because it goes against the definition of the
bcc.  Even if it didn't, it's likely technically not possible for an
email provider to allow filtering by bcc.

--- In Y-Mail@yahoogroups.com, "Bill" <billsville_99@...> wrote:
>
> Hey James.......well if Yahoo can See It to Send It.....then Yahoo
can
> See It to Filter It......Me....the Receiving End.....doesn't want
to See
> any part of It
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> --- In Y-Mail@yahoogroups.com, "James" <jakk9406@> wrote:
> >
> > I don't know if that'd be do-able.  The whole point of bcc is that
> > addresses inserted there are not visible (Blind).  The receiving
end
> > is never supposed to know the contents of the bcc.  Being able to
> > filter by this could violate that rule.
> >
> >
> > --- In Y-Mail@yahoogroups.com, Bill billsville_99@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Ryan...I know you wanted us to use that thread you started a
> > while back....but I just looked for it and can't find it
> > anywhere....sorry I tried
> > >
> > > I'm a bit behind....but last week someone suggested including
Bcc
> > as a "Rule" for Filters.....EXCELLENT SUGGESTION!!!!!!
> > >
> > > Ryan...as I'm sure you know.....most Spam and Junk Mail is sent
> > Using the Bcc field.....it's pretty much a no brainer Ryan.....I
> > can't figure out why Yahoo left it out......and some people might
> > have reason to Filter Bcc Mail to a separate Folder....either
using
> > Bcc as a stand alone Rule or in conjunction with others
> > >
> > > I think setting it up as it's own "Rule" would be a good
> > idea....ACTUALLY.....why not separate all 3.....like this
> > >
> > > If all of the following rules are true...From headerTo headerCc
> > headerBcc headerSubjectBody
> > >
> > > This would give us the Greatest Flexibility when creating
Filters,
> > Ryan......and we all know how important Filters have become
> > >
> > > Bottom Line......if Bcc is offered as an Option for Sending Mail
> > then we should have it as an Option for Filtering Mail
> > >
> > > Ryan I'm Thanking You ahead of time because I'm sure you'll make
> > this happen
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> >
>

I tried using the Chat in IE and it is working. For some strange
reason chat is not workingin Firefox.


--- In Y-Mail@yahoogroups.com, "randall_shimizu" <randall.shimizu@...>
wrote:
>
> For some reason Yahoo chat never connects in the mail client....??
>

I tried using the Chat in IE and it is working. For some strange
reason chat is not workingin Firefox.
--- In Y-Mail@yahoogroups.com, "randall_shimizu" <randall.shimizu@...>
wrote:

For some reason Yahoo chat never connects in the mail client....??

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I have 2 yahoo mailboxes, How would I move one mailbox from 593 to
308?  308 is more reliable....which is where peterdes@... is
located.

Thanks

Peter

It works on when I'm at home on a Mac (Safari) but here at the office (Win/IE&Firefox) it crashes all the time. Something is really wrong with it.

 

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----- Original Message ----
From: Sasafrass <sasafrass452@...>
To: Y-Mail@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 12:57:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Y-Mail] Re: Yahoo cleint chat connecting problems

Hmm, that's odd.... Works for me....

randall_shimizu wrote:

I tried using the Chat in IE and it is working. For some strange
reason chat is not workingin Firefox.


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For some reason Yahoo chat never connects in the mail client....??

    

 
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• the whole concept of bcc, and whatever it's used for is gone
   
  
• if you were planning on not letting Person A know that you sent a copy of your email to Person B, well, that's not happening - it's trivial to sift through headers - much like whatever filter will do.
    
  
• spammers will have a field day - how? Think of it this way, since gaining access to "bcc" is synonymous to just using "cc"....oh my...
    
  
• So if your buddy sent the entire neighborhood an email, and if only one PC in the neighborhood had  malware that harvests email addresses, all the malware has to do is scan the headers...and all the neighborhood's email addresses are toast.
  

Hi Bill,

I'm pretty sure the other respondents are correct about the fact that
we can't offer access to the BCC info for filtering purposes, however
if you think you are getting spammed via BCC can't you just create a
filter set to "To/CC header: does not contain billsville_99"?

-Ryan K

I have it set in vista as the default program..yet when I click on a
mailto: link, it says 'could not perform operation as default mail is
not properly installed.'

this is a new HP pavilion PC.

now what?

--- In Y-Mail@yahoogroups.com, "brinkeguthrie" <brinkeguthrie@...>
wrote:
>
> I have it set in vista as the default program..yet when I click on a
> mailto: link, it says 'could not perform operation as default mail is
> not properly installed.'
>
> this is a new HP pavilion PC.
>
> now what?
>

PS, I got it to work.  But shouldn't it fill in the mail address I am
sending to, or no.