Hi Ken,

Firstly thanks so much for taking the time out to reply to my issue.

>>Fine .... but I'm guessing this process does not mandate
the "proper" use of element start and end tags (nesting, completion,
etc.).

We would be looking at implementing a framework that would
produce "proper" end and start tags. Here is a list of what we are
currently looking at:
MSHTML: http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa753630.aspx (part
of IE)
TinyMCE: http://tinymce.moxiecode.com/
FCKeditor: http://www.fckeditor.net/
OpenWYSIWYG: http://www.openwebware.com/products/openwysiwyg/

>>Do you have the opportunity in the process to run "tidy"?  This is
an open tool that converts tag soup into XML, which is then suitable
for XSLT:

Not unless we can run it in a web application server.

>>The painful alternative is to use XSLT 2.0 (which isn't painful),
read in the HTML fragments as a text string, and to do your own
string analysis in a piecemeal fashion to reconstruct the structure
from the mess of tag soup from the user.  Not at all pleasant, but
doable.

This seems to be where all my R&D is pointing me too.

So basically if we can guarantee the use of valid html tags we should
be able to do the conversion between html tags and xml (xsl:fo?)
tags? And if so, where would be my starting point in completing this?

Again with many thanks,

-george



--- In XSL-FO@yahoogroups.com, "G. Ken Holman" <gkholman@...> wrote:
>
> At 2007-10-15 11:09 +0000, astragh wrote:
> >Hi to the forum,
> >
> >We currently use xsl fo for styling our xml.
> >Our application takes user submitted content and adds it to our
> >database where we then extract this content and transform it into
an
> >xml tree. This is then forwarded to our .xsl file and then produces
> >the PDF.
>
> Sounds good so far!
>
> >We would like to allow our application to accept html tags using a
> >wysiwyg module above the textarea where the client can then format
> >their descriptions with various tags i.e. <b>, <i>, <ul> etc.
>
> Fine .... but I'm guessing this process does not mandate
the "proper"
> use of element start and end tags (nesting, completion, etc.).
>
> >This works ok when the user is forwarded to the next JSP page all
> >formatting is saved to the database and displayed correctly,
further
> >calls to display this page gets the information from the database
and
> >again displays all information.
>
> Right ... because HTML browsers are forgiving of discrepancies that
> would otherwise be considered errors in a well-formedness check.
Any
> mess entered by the users is acceptable to the end processing in
the
> browser client.
>
> >The problem is when we request this
> >view in the PDF format XSL can't handle the html tags. Is there a
way
> >that I can make the request to the database during, after or before
> >we process our XML tree and swap out the html tags with xsl? And
> >would this work?
>
> Do you have the opportunity in the process to run "tidy"?  This is
an
> open tool that converts tag soup into XML, which is then suitable
for XSLT:
>
>    http://tidy.sourceforge.net/
>
> The only input to XSLT is well-formed XML and this would give it to
> you.  HTML of any SGML flavour (messy or not messy) is
> unacceptable.  XHTML is acceptable, but then you wouldn't be having
> any problems because it would be well-formed.
>
> The painful alternative is to use XSLT 2.0 (which isn't painful),
> read in the HTML fragments as a text string, and to do your own
> string analysis in a piecemeal fashion to reconstruct the structure
> from the mess of tag soup from the user.  Not at all pleasant, but
doable.
>
> >Sorry if this is a little brief I have just inherited the project
and
> >only starting to make some ground on the understanding. And I am a
> >total newbie to this :(
>
> Have fun!
>
> . . . . . . . . . . Ken
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G. Ken Holman wrote:

> Do you have the opportunity in the process to run "tidy"?  This is an
> open tool that converts tag soup into XML, which is then suitable for XSLT:
>
>    http://tidy.sourceforge.net/
>
> The only input to XSLT is well-formed XML and this would give it to
> you.  HTML of any SGML flavour (messy or not messy) is
> unacceptable.  XHTML is acceptable, but then you wouldn't be having
> any problems because it would be well-formed.

Perhaps even easier Ken,
http://ccil.org/~cowan/XML/tagsoup/  links a variant of tidy
into Saxon, so that the html can be processed in Saxon as if
it were well formed xhtml?

Just call up Johns jar instead of saxon.jar and it all
comes out well.

Really nice.

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Hi, All

I have java code that refer to Driver class (org.apache.fop.apps.Driver driver =
new Driver()), it is missing in the new fop.jar I just downloaded. Is there any
replacement or different way to render PDF in java?

Thanks.

Also, FopImageFactory class is missing, too. Any idea?

Since FopImageFactory is no longer existed in new fop.jar, how can I resetCache
(
org.apache.fop.image.FopImageFactory.resetCache(); // Reset) in Java
application? Thanks.




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C. Myers wrote:
>
>
> Hi, All
>
> I have java code that refer to Driver class (org.apache.fop.apps.Driver
> driver = new Driver()), it is missing in the new fop.jar I just
> downloaded. Is there any replacement or different way to render PDF in java?

The Driver class is part of the API for FOP 0.20.5. The API was
refactored when FOP was re-written, so 0.9x versions have a different
API. See the following webpage for help on upgrading:

http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/0.95/upgrading.html

Regards,

Chris

Hi,
 
Can anyone help me why I got error (java.lang.ClassCastException:
org.apache.fop.layout.hyphenation.HyphenationTree) after upgraded to fop 0.94?
Thanks.
 
I am running FOP that is embedded in the Java application.
















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C. Myers wrote:
> Can anyone help me why I got error (java.lang.ClassCastException:
> org.apache.fop.layout.hyphenation.HyphenationTree) after upgraded to
> fop 0.94? Thanks.

I'd say there is an old fop hyphenation jar in the classpath. Remove
everything which looks like this or like an old fop.jar. Get a more
recent one from http://offo.sourceforge.net/hyphenation/

J.Pietschmann

Apologies if my question is naive. Can I call the methods of FOP's SAX
handler directly ?

   startElement(  pass the name of a FOP object here)
      characters( ...blah blah... )
   endElement( )

I've read the recommended approach is to create an XML first, even if
only in memory. And then feed the XML into the SAX parser of FO.
In my case, this seems superfluous. I have two dozen items of data
which I need to place on a page, in a rather unusual pattern. So, the
main effort is in FO.

In my project, the data does not have a complex hierarchy. But the FO
is likely to be a complex hierarchy. I have to divide the page into
three zones (top, center, bottom). The center zone to be divided into
two halves along a vertical like. The left-center subzone to contain
two rectangles with highlighted borders, and the right-center another
rectagle. Data is to flow within these rectangles. Sounds like madness
(and looks like it too-:) but this is the task at hand.

I feel more comfortable expressing such FO hierarchy from Java. It just
feels pointless for me to build a tree, serialize it into XML, and then
call FO to build its own tree again. I've read the warning about FO
being able to use smaller trees than the whole document, but my case
involves a single page anyway, so there is not much to save.

Would such an approach be workable ?

Regards,

Andrew

Schonberger Andras wrote:
> Apologies if my question is naive. Can I call the methods of FOP's SAX
> handler directly ?

You can call the handler directly. In fact in many cases it is
better than building an XML string and feed it through a parser.
It is, however, more common to build a DOM using a simple XML
vocabulary (rather than XSLFO) and pass it to an XSL transformation
which generates the XSLFO. Feeding a XSL Transforamtion with
SAX events also happens, there are quite a few applications where
some events map smoothly to SAX events, like parsing data files or
feeding database tables into a processing stream. Generating SAX
events for XSLFO directly is more outlandish.

Generating SAX events can be tricky, because you have to guarantee
the proper sequence of events, including startDocument etc. It is
easy to generate some out of sequence events, which will in general
lead to strange effects downstream. Be prepared for some long debug
sessions. The easiest way to debug a SAX event generator is probably
to serialize the event stream as XML document.

J.Pietschmann

Apache FOP (Formatting Objects Processor) is a print formatter driven by
XSL Formatting Objects [1] and an output independent formatter. It is a
Java application that reads a formatting object tree and renders the
resulting pages to a specified output. Output formats currently
supported include PDF, PS, PCL, AFP, Print and TIFF/PNG. Apache FOP is
Open Source software and published under the Apache License v2.0.

It took longer than expected but we're happy to present the final Apache
FOP 0.95 stable release. This is basically a bugfix release to 0.95beta.
The most important changes since the previous stable release (0.94) are:
- many bug fixes and improvements in tables, better support for keeps
   and breaks, new features: conditional borders and background on
   columns and header/footer/body;
- better image handling thanks to the new image loading framework
   provided by the Apache XML Graphics Commons dependency;
- improvements and bugfixes for font handling and font
   auto-detection/-registration;
- performance improvements and memory optimizations for the property
   handling in the FO tree.
- elimination of a potential multi-threading problem.
- some feature enhancements for RTF output (partial fo:leader support,
   fo:page-number-citation)

Please note that support for Java 1.3 has been dropped. Only one type of
binaries is provided now, that will run on 1.4+ JREs.

Other important release notes are available at
http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/0.95/releaseNotes_0.95.html

For a more complete list of changes, please visit
http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/0.95/changes_0.95.html

For download information, see the following page:
http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/download.html


[1] http://www.w3.org/TR/xsl11/


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Hi:

I am trying to convert the cals table into FO.
I am having issues with the @rowsep at an <entry> element. If the
@rowsep=0, I want that the border-bottom to not be shown. Here is what
I am attempting to do in the <entry> template: I have just shown the
@rowsep part here.
<xsl:template match="entry">
<xsl:variable name="entry">
<xsl:number level="multiple" format="1" count="entry"/>
</xsl:variable>
<fo:table-cell padding-before="2pt" padding-after="2pt">
<!-- ROWSEP rules -->
<xsl:choose>
<xsl:when test="ancestor::tbody/row/entry[$entry]/@rowsep='0'">
<xsl:attribute name="border-left"><xsl:value-of select="$FrameWidth"/>
solid black</xsl:attribute>
<xsl:attribute name="border-right"><xsl:value-of select="$FrameWidth"/>
solid black</xsl:attribute>
<xsl:attribute name="border-top">1px solid black</xsl:attribute>
<xsl:attribute name="border-bottom">0px</xsl:attribute>
</xsl:when>
</xsl:choose>
<fo:block><xsl:apply-templates/></fo:block>
</fo:table-cell>
</xsl:template>

What I wanted to when I used "ancestor::tbody/row/entry[$entry]" was to
be able to use something like an array to navigate among all the
<entry> elements in a table. But this is not working.

I also want to be able to check if it is the first entry and if there
are @morerows attributes on the <entry>. But I am not able to get this
first step of @rowsep.

Any help/suggestions?

Thanks in advance.

At 2008-12-29 17:07 +0000, mina_hurray wrote:
>I am trying to convert the cals table into FO.
>I am having issues with the @rowsep at an <entry> element. If the
>@rowsep=0, I want that the border-bottom to not be shown. Here is what
>I am attempting to do in the <entry> template: I have just shown the
>@rowsep part here.
><xsl:template match="entry">
><xsl:variable name="entry">
><xsl:number level="multiple" format="1" count="entry"/>
></xsl:variable>

The above is very wasteful because there is no need to walk away from
the <entry> and go back to it.

><fo:table-cell padding-before="2pt" padding-after="2pt">
><!-- ROWSEP rules -->
><xsl:choose>
><xsl:when test="ancestor::tbody/row/entry[$entry]/@rowsep='0'">

Why not just use test="@rowsep='0'" as the test?  What you have there
will check the same column of *every* row, not just the row you are in.

And why use <xsl:choose> when you only have one <xsl:when>?  That
could be <xsl:if>.

><xsl:attribute name="border-left"><xsl:value-of select="$FrameWidth"/>
>solid black</xsl:attribute>
><xsl:attribute name="border-right"><xsl:value-of select="$FrameWidth"/>
>solid black</xsl:attribute>
><xsl:attribute name="border-top">1px solid black</xsl:attribute>
><xsl:attribute name="border-bottom">0px</xsl:attribute>
></xsl:when>
></xsl:choose>
><fo:block><xsl:apply-templates/></fo:block>
></fo:table-cell>
></xsl:template>
>
>What I wanted to when I used "ancestor::tbody/row/entry[$entry]" was to
>be able to use something like an array to navigate among all the
><entry> elements in a table. But this is not working.

Why all <entry> elements?  The above will address only one <entry>
element and it will address the one you are at because of your use of
<xsl:number/>.

If you want to check that *any* entry element has rowsep, then you use:

    <xsl:if test="../entry[@rowsep='0']">

... which will test all of the entry elements in the same row
checking if any of them has a rowsep='0'.  But it won't check for
entries in spanned rows.

But I'm not convinced that is what you want.  You say you want an
array (which doesn't exist in XSLT), but you don't say why.  What is
the problem you are trying to solve?

>I also want to be able to check if it is the first entry

"not(preceding-sibling::entry)" will check but will not consider any
spanned cells from above rows.

>and if there are @morerows attributes on the <entry>.

"attributes" plural?  I'm not sure what you mean.  There could only
be one on <entry> and to check that it is there is:

   test="@morerows"

>But I am not able to get this first step of @rowsep.
>
>Any help/suggestions?

Can you please repeat your requirement using sentences and examples
that describe the data you want checked and the result you need from
that data?  I cannot interpret what problem you are trying to solve.

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Thank you for your response.

Here is the sample table XML file:
    <table id="S0218B7D7" frame="none">
  <title/>
  <tgroup cols="5">
    <colspec colname="c1"/>
    <colspec colname="c2"/>
    <colspec colname="c3"/>
    <colspec colname="c4"/>
    <colspec colname="c5"/>
    <tbody>
      <row>
        <entry rowsep="0">3</entry>
        <entry>3</entry>
        <entry>3</entry>
        <entry>3</entry>
        <entry>3</entry>
      </row>
      <row>
        <entry>3</entry>
        <entry>3</entry>
        <entry>3</entry>
        <entry>3</entry>
        <entry>3</entry>
      </row>
     
    </tbody>
  </tgroup>
 
</table>

My requirement is simple:

Whenever  @rowsep is encountered, it formats the table by setting
border-bottom=0px.

How can I acheieve this?

Thanks


--- On Mon, 12/29/08, G. Ken Holman <gkholman@...> wrote:
From: G. Ken Holman <gkholman@...>
Subject: Re: [XSL-FO] CALS table to XSLFo -@rowsep problem
To: XSL-FO@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, December 29, 2008, 4:52 PM











             At 2008-12-29 17:07 +0000, mina_hurray wrote:

>I am trying to convert the cals table into FO.

>I am having issues with the @rowsep at an <entry> element. If the

>@rowsep=0, I want that the border-bottom to not be shown. Here is what

>I am attempting to do in the <entry> template: I have just shown the

>@rowsep part here.

><xsl:template match="entry" >

><xsl:variable name="entry" >

><xsl:number level="multiple" format="1" count="entry" />

></xsl:variable>



The above is very wasteful because there is no need to walk away from

the <entry> and go back to it.



><fo:table-cell padding-before= "2pt" padding-after= "2pt">

><!-- ROWSEP rules -->

><xsl:choose>

><xsl:when test="ancestor: :tbody/row/ entry[$entry] /@rowsep= '0'">



Why not just use test="@rowsep= '0'" as the test?  What you have there

will check the same column of *every* row, not just the row you are in.



And why use <xsl:choose> when you only have one <xsl:when>?  That

could be <xsl:if>.



><xsl:attribute name="border- left"><xsl: value-of select="$FrameWidth "/>

>solid black</xsl:attribut e>

><xsl:attribute name="border- right"><xsl: value-of select="$FrameWidth "/>

>solid black</xsl:attribut e>

><xsl:attribute name="border- top">1px solid black</xsl:attribut e>

><xsl:attribute name="border- bottom">0px< /xsl:attribute>

></xsl:when>

></xsl:choose>

><fo:block>< xsl:apply- templates/ ></fo:block>

></fo:table- cell>

></xsl:template>

>

>What I wanted to when I used "ancestor::tbody/ row/entry[ $entry]" was to

>be able to use something like an array to navigate among all the

><entry> elements in a table. But this is not working.



Why all <entry> elements?  The above will address only one <entry>

element and it will address the one you are at because of your use of

<xsl:number/ >.



If you want to check that *any* entry element has rowsep, then you use:



<xsl:if test="../entry[ @rowsep=' 0']">



... which will test all of the entry elements in the same row

checking if any of them has a rowsep='0'.  But it won't check for

entries in spanned rows.



But I'm not convinced that is what you want.  You say you want an

array (which doesn't exist in XSLT), but you don't say why.  What is

the problem you are trying to solve?



>I also want to be able to check if it is the first entry



"not(preceding- sibling:: entry)" will check but will not consider any

spanned cells from above rows.



>and if there are @morerows attributes on the <entry>.



"attributes" plural?  I'm not sure what you mean.  There could only

be one on <entry> and to check that it is there is:



test="@morerows"



>But I am not able to get this first step of @rowsep.

>

>Any help/suggestions?



Can you please repeat your requirement using sentences and examples

that describe the data you want checked and the result you need from

that data?  I cannot interpret what problem you are trying to solve.



I hope the notes above help.



. . . . . . . . . . . Ken



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Hi,

I need to be able to control lists so that I don't get a single first
list-item at the end of a page or a last list-item at the beginning of
a page. I know you can control lines in an element that way with
orphans and widows, but it only seems to work within a specific
element with several lines of text. It just seems strange that it
wouldn't be possible to do this for list-items too, since that causes
the same problem as a single line of regular paragraph text does (it's
just as ugly with a single list-item as a single line of text). I just
can't find any way to do it though, am I missing something?

A list in the xml I use looks like this (but usually longer, so a
keep-together.within-column is not a good idea, since that would often
create too much whitespace):

<ol>
<li>Text</li>
<li>Text</li>
<li>Text</li>
<li>Text</li>
</ol>

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Regards,

Anders

At 2009-01-30 08:54 +0000, anderszvensson wrote:
>I need to be able to control lists so that I don't get a single first
>list-item at the end of a page or a last list-item at the beginning of
>a page.

Use keep-with-next= on the first list item, and keep-with-previous=
on the last list item.

>I know you can control lines in an element that way with
>orphans and widows, but it only seems to work within a specific
>element with several lines of text.

Precisely.

>A list in the xml I use looks like this (but usually longer, so a
>keep-together.within-column is not a good idea,

Yes, that wouldn't be appropriate in your situation.

I hope this helps.

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At 2009-03-06 17:43 -0500, I wrote:
>June 1 - 10, 2009 - Los Angeles/Anaheim, California
>
>Five days of XSLT 2.0/1.0, XQuery 1.0 and XPath 2.0/1.0, covering
>every element, every attribute, every keyword and every
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>either XQuery, XSLT or both.
>
>Three days of XSL-FO 1.1/1.0, covering every formatting object.
>
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>
>    http://www.CraneSoftwrights.com/f/
>
>If these do not suit you, we offer on-site private deliveries.
>
>. . . . . . . . . . . . Ken


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