Fellow gentlebeings:

I have hunted the Internet for resources, and I can not find out what
dragons are afraid of.  Should I just make something up as a
character trait?  Does anyone know where I might find a decent
resource?


Regards,

Your Humble Moderator.

The worry that I have, of course, is that we'll all end up duplicating
effort, keeping nearly-identical link lists, and so forth.  Not sure
how we could avoid that happening and still maintain our own
individual spaces.  Any ideas?

M



--- In Writers_Library@y..., ElizabethAEnsley@a... wrote:
> That's also what I hope to do with the library: provide a nexus for
> information!   I know that there are a lot of writers out there, and
I hope
> this information helps them find what they need.  This ranges from
fanfiction
> to professional.  I also want to put a few links up for journaling
too, if I
> find them.
>
> After all, ideas can come from anywhere!
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
>
> Elizabeth Anne Ensley
> <A
HREF="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Writers_Library">http://groups.yah
oo.com/group/Writers_Library</A>
> open 24/7

Elizabeth,

No forgiveness necessary!  This is exactly the kind of networking I've
been HOPING to get going for quite some time.  I'm going to be posting
those urls at the Kosmogogues website, as well -- and any others you
or other folks here might think would be useful.  I'm open to
suggestions for categories, ways of arranging them, whatever will
prove more convenient to the end-user.

Thanks!

M



--- In Writers_Library@y..., "Elizabeth Anne Ensley"
<ElizabethAEnsley@a...> wrote:
> I hope I'l lbe forgiven for this one, but I 'borrowed' this from
> another group I'm in.  I thought the lins would prove useful for
> people perusing the library.  When I hav more time, I'll post the
> lniks to the bookmarks.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Your Humble Moderator.
> #
> --- In kosmogogues@y..., "John McMullen" <jhmcmullen@y...> wrote:
> --- In kosmogogues@y..., "Martin M. Conrad II" <martin.conrad@a...>
> wrote:
> <<Question:  What makes a word "sound" like it's from a particular
>
> If I say "miko", we automatically think: Japanese; "chang-yin",
> Chinese; "greschon", German; "eladil", Elvish; "alharad", Arabic.
>
> Is there some formula or set of patterns one can use to generate
> words of a particular "type"?>>
>
> Well, you can analyze a particular language and work it out from
> there.
>
> Some of the name generating programs out there break languages down
> to the frequency of various letter combinations. Also, when you're
> designing a language, you may make the decision to eliminate certain
> sounds, or to make other combinations of sounds common. This can
> lead to interesting views by others in the game world. For example,
> I've read that some of the Asian languages don't actually
distinguish
> between R and L (or rather, /r/ and /l/) which leads to the English
> stereotype of Asians asking for "a grass of watel".
>
> If you poke around the small languages groups (where's that really
> excellent language builder's kit? Ah, here:
> http://www.zompist.com/kit.html ) you may find some hints.
>
> This name generator does something like it:
> http://rinkworks.com/namegen/
>
> And this tutorial discusses the idea of generating names
> phonetically.
>
> http://www.flipcode.com/tutorials/tut_gennames.shtml

I hope I'l lbe forgiven for this one, but I 'borrowed' this from
another group I'm in.  I thought the lins would prove useful for
people perusing the library.  When I hav more time, I'll post the
lniks to the bookmarks.


Regards,

Your Humble Moderator.
#
--- In kosmogogues@y..., "John McMullen" <jhmcmullen@y...> wrote:
--- In kosmogogues@y..., "Martin M. Conrad II" <martin.conrad@a...>
wrote:
<<Question:  What makes a word "sound" like it's from a particular

If I say "miko", we automatically think: Japanese; "chang-yin",
Chinese; "greschon", German; "eladil", Elvish; "alharad", Arabic.

Is there some formula or set of patterns one can use to generate
words of a particular "type"?>>

Well, you can analyze a particular language and work it out from
there.

Some of the name generating programs out there break languages down
to the frequency of various letter combinations. Also, when you're
designing a language, you may make the decision to eliminate certain
sounds, or to make other combinations of sounds common. This can
lead to interesting views by others in the game world. For example,
I've read that some of the Asian languages don't actually distinguish
between R and L (or rather, /r/ and /l/) which leads to the English
stereotype of Asians asking for "a grass of watel".

If you poke around the small languages groups (where's that really
excellent language builder's kit? Ah, here:
http://www.zompist.com/kit.html ) you may find some hints.

This name generator does something like it:
http://rinkworks.com/namegen/

And this tutorial discusses the idea of generating names
phonetically.

http://www.flipcode.com/tutorials/tut_gennames.shtml

Did you know that OWW runs another workshop, without Del Rey?  They
just started the OWW Horror Workshop a couple of months ago, but a
pretty good group of people lurk in this horror workshop.  The format
is identical to the SF/F Workshop, but the emphasis here is on
writing (or critiquing) horror fiction.  That, and the fact that this
one is not sponsored by Del Rey, are the only differences between the
workshops that I have seen, thus far.  But, it's an active workshop,
albeit a smaller one then the SF/F workshop.  I'm not sure I want to
do an article on the non-free workshop.  It has either a monthly
membership fee, or you can pay $40 a year, so it's technically a
semiprivate workshop.  Anyone can join, and the first month's
membership is free.

I'll try to add bookmarks to both sites later today.  I have
critiques to inflict upon fellow folk who critiqued mine, unless
they're returning critiques that I have previously inflicted upon
their unsuspecting tales.


Regards,

Your Humble Moderator.

The Coffeehouse For Writers
<http://www.coffeehouse4writers.com/welcome.html> offers classes
links, contest and market news.  It is a gateway to many writer's
groups, of varying interests. From scriptwriting and articles, to
mainstream and genre, this may be a good starting point if you are
beginning to look for a writer's group.


Regards,

Your Humble Moderator.

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It came with my pea sea
It plainly marques four my revue
Miss steaks eye kin knot sea.
Eye strike a key and type a word
And weight four it two say
Weather eye am wrong oar write
It shows me strait a weigh.
As soon as a mist ache is maid
It nose bee fore two long
And eye can put the error rite
Its rare lea ever wrong.
Eye have run this poem threw it
I am shore your pleased two no
Its letter perfect awl the weigh
My chequer tolled me sew.

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Elmore Leonard's rules of writing -


Subject: Re: Elmore Leonard's rules of writing -


Here's the list minus his explanations:

1.  Never begin with the weather.
2.  Avoid prologues
3.  Never use a verb other than "said" to carry dialogue.
4. Never use an adverb to modify the verb "said" . . .
5. Keep your exclamation points under control.
6. Never use the words "suddenly" or "all hell broke loose."
7. Use regional dialect, patois, sparingly.
8. Avoid detailed descriptions of characters.
9. Don't go into great detail describing places and things.
10. Try to leave out the part that readers tend to skip.


Clearly his is about suspense fiction, which is what
Leonard writes (and well...better than most).  His explanations
for each above are a treat in themselves.  If you have
a net account with the NYTimes (and why wouldn't you,
it's free?), then you can see the whole article by doing a
search for his name.

He's most famous for rule #10.

Commas

  ======

Note:  I have not included a complete listing of the usage of a comma
here, such as in addresses, numbers, and titles, etcetera.  I have
included that which I feel we use most often when writing fiction.
My apologies to folk who want a complete comma cookbook.  The
Elements of Grammar is available through The Quality Paperback Book
Club and, I think, Writers Digest Books.  It may also be ordered
through your local bookstore.  Your local library may also have a
copy.

  ======

According to The Elements of Grammar, by Margaret D. Shertzer

DOs:

You may use a comma to separate a sequence of words and phrases in a
sentence.  Etcetera is, of course, to be preceded by a comma, since
it implies a continuation of a sequence of words.

You may use a comma between adjectives preceding a noun when they are
coordinate qualifying words;  You may use a comma to separate pairs
of words in a series.  You may use a comma to separate the name of
the person addressed or his/her title from the rest of the sentence.

Use a comma to set off words in apposition.

Use a comma to set off a contrasted word, phrase, or clause.

Use a comma to set off a transitional word or expression; /as, then,
indeed, nevertheless, moreover, of course,/ when a pause is needed
for clarity or emphasis.

A comma should follow /yes, no, why, well/ when one of these words
are used at the beginning of a sentence.

Use a comma to set off light exclamations.

If such introductory words as /as, for example, for instance, namely,
viz, that is/  and the terms following form parenthetical expressions
and do not introduce enumerations, a comma precedes and follows the
introductory word.

Use a comma to separate similar or identical words standing next to
each other, even when the sense or continuity does not seen to
require it.

Use a comma to set off a nonrestrictive adjective clause.

Use a comma to set off informal direct quotations.



DO NOTs:



Do not use a comma when the conjunction connects all the series of
words.

Do not use a comma if using the comma destroys the intended
relationship between the adjectives, since the adjectives are too
closely related to be separated.

Do not separate compound personal pronouns from the word they
emphasize.

Do not use commas when a word or phrase is in italics or enclosed in
quotation marks.

Omit the comma when the appositive has become part of a name.

Do not use a comma to set off a restrictive adjective clause.


The Gregg Reference Manual has a breakdown of the rules of usage of
the comma.  I will not go into that here.  I will recommend it as a
source of reference, and not merely for commas, but for the basic
rules of writing.

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I thought these links would be handy for some people who might lurk
in the library:



http://www.ability.org.uk/writing_fan_fiction.html
       Writing Fan Fiction.

http://www.angelfire.com/va/storyguide/
       Fiction Writing Articles on the Internet: top frame (ATOP)
       FICTION LINKS A Vast Selection of Links to Articles About
       Writing

http://www.bartleby.com/141/
       -Strunk & White's The Elements Of Style Online

http://www.crosswinds.net/~ghostheads/fanfiction/writing.html
       Writing Fan Fiction
       Writing Fan Fiction All right, so you want to write some fan
       fiction (either that or you just like reading my essays). Good
       for you! The sky's the limit, give it a go! There's no special
       training you absolutely must have; just about anybody can

http://www.inkspot.com/amanda/fanfic.html
       Fan Fiction Writing Resources
       Mystery/crime writer resources: forum, resource links, etc, for
       those interested in writing crime and mystery fiction.

http://members.aol.com/Honywumpus/fanfic.htm
       The Official DAFT Fan Fiction Writing Guide Help File Thing
       Introduction People sometimes ask me how to write fan fiction.
       I'm not really the authority, and I know that there as many
       methods of writing as there are authors.

http://www.mysterynet.com/mwa/
       Mystery Writers of America
       National organization which assists with contracts, law,
       conferences, and awards. Links to mystery authors, fan
       discussion, and reviews.

http://www.nintendoland.com/home2.htm?fanfic/writingtips.htm
       Tips for writing fanfiction that are applicable toward all
       fiction,

http://www.openfiction.com/reader.php
       OpenFiction, fiction writing, poetry online, fan fiction
       Read or write fiction, fan fiction, short stories, a novel,
       poems or other creative writing, online. If you need an outlet
       for that creativity, this is the place.

http://www.quill.net/
       Quill Society
       Internet-based writing club for young writers offers activities
       and discussion groups to help writers hone their skills. Also
       find links.

http://www.wga.org/
       Writers Guild of America  wga

http://www.writepage.com/
       Write Page
       Genre-fiction newsletter listing author and book information
       for readers and guidelines for writers.

http://www.writers.net/
       the Internet directory of writers, editors, publishers and
       literary agents

http://www.writerswrite.com/
       Writers Write -- The Write Resource -- Books, Publishing and
       Writing  This issue of the IWJ features interviews with Angela
       Adair-Hoy and M.J. Rose, the co-authors of How to Publish and
       Promote Online (St. Martin's Press) and with award-winning
       mystery novelist Jerrilyn Farmer, author of Dim Sum Dead (Avon
       Books).......

http://www.writing-edu.com
       Institute for Excellence in Writing  Make available the
       Structure and Style in Writing program to teachers, parents,
       and home school students across the United States. Develop and
       provide supplementary materials for

http://www.azstarnet.com/~poewar/writer/writer.html
       John Hewitt's Writer's Resource Center  The Writer's Resource
       Center provides job listings, articles, and links for writers.

http://www.writerswrite.com/journal/
       The Internet Writing Journal(R) -- Author Interviews, Writing
       Articles and Book Reviews -- Writers Write(R)  "A must-bookmark
       for anyone putting pen to paper or code to a site" --The Web
       Magazine "If you want to improve your writing skills and apply
       them online, the first edition is online now." --USA TODAY

http://members.tripod.com/~DavidAmaya/guide.html
       OutsideTheLines Guide to Fan Fiction Writing
       Provides a useful general guide to plotting, writing and
       revising fan fiction stories.

http://members.aol.com/janemort/fanfic.html
       Advantages of Fan Fiction as an Art Form, The
       Check out an essay explaining why fan fiction is a unique and
       worthwhile form of writing.

http://psg.com/~ted/spider/index.html
       Robinson, Spider - Ted's Fan Page
       Writings by science fiction author Spider Robinson, along with
       pictures, reviews, upcoming releases and links to other fan
       pages.

http://www.subreality.com/cfan.htm
       CFAN - Comic Fan Fiction
       Meeting place for comics fans and amateur creators. Read the
       featured fan fiction.

http://writerexchange.about.com/cs/fanfiction
       Fan Fiction
       Fan fiction sites for readers and writers.



Regards,


Your Humble Moderator

Here is an example of infodump, from my own writing.



	 The sky darkened sooner, night's cold hand lingering on the
chilled window as she watched his car splash through a puddle,
pulling out of the driveway, deserting Aaren to her dark thoughts.
The rain's cheery staccato beat on the roof ran counterpoint to her
somber mood.  She had once thought Bainbridge loved her.  How blind
she was -- oh, bitter fate!  Gramma had warned her that Mundanes were
fickle!
	 She clutched the hard, unyielding window sill.  The rain
increased to an angry hammer against the window pane.  Why was she
the vampire, when she had cast the spell to grant his wish?   Gramma
told Aaren the only way to free herself from the curse was to get
Bainbridge to open the strongbox in the basement.  Gramma had cursed
the strongbox to kill him.  It contained a tome, within which was the
counter-spell that would again make Aaren mortal.

I don't know if you can spot the infocump, but it was pointed out to
me in one critique.  I agreed with the assessment of the critique by
this person.  There are also run-on sentences, which may compound the
problem.



Here is how I dealt with the problem.




        The sky darkened sooner, night's cold hand lingering on the
chilled window.
        Aaren watched his car splash through a puddle, pulling out of
his driveway next door, deserting Aaren to her dark thoughts.  The
rain's cheery, staccato beat on the roof ran counterpoint to her
somber mood.
	 She clutched the hard, unyielding window sill.  The rain
increased to an angry hammer against the window pane.  She had once
thought Bainbridge loved her.  How blind she was -- oh, bitter fate!
        Why was Aaren the vampire, when she had cast the spell to
grant his wish?   Bainbridge had so wanted to meet a vampire, to
reassure himself that the world still held wonders dear to itself.
        When Gramma had learned of her transgression, she cursed Aaren
to be that which Bainbridge sought, a fitting punishment for
betraying her family.  She told Aaren the only way to free herself
from the curse was to get Bainbridge to open the strongbox in the
basement.  It contained a tome, within which was the counter-spell
that would again make Aaren mortal.
        Gramma had cursed the strongbox to kill him.....
        Aaren hadn't wanted to, not for the longest time.  Not until
Bainbridge's graduation, when he had danced with that - that woman!
But Gramma had warned her that Mortals were fickle!

#

        This is my opener.  You may noticethat I've also dealt with
more then the infodump.
        I tried to word it more precisely, to avoid confusing the
reader.
        I also tried to better explain Aaren's motivation to the
reader: a simple case of mistaken jealousy.  This becomes more clear
as the story progresses.
        In summary:
        Infodump is when you give too much information at once.  This
confuses your reader.  Splitting the paragraph into two or more
paragraphs resolved this problem.  Varying the form, while retaining
the intent of my story.
         This was only one example of infodump, and  one example of
resolving the problem.


Regards,

Your Humble Moderator.

On-Line Writer's Workshops/Critique Groups:
The Science Fiction Writer's Workshop.


The SFWW started in 1988.  Janice Mars was the first person to
organize the workshop.  She recruited Amy Sterling Casil in 1994 to
replace the person who assisted her.  Within three months,  Amy
was "in charge."

At that time, it was a very different workshop from what it is
today.  Amy recruited another Clarion grad, D.G. McLean, who went by
the screen name Nick Neuro, to help her, and Nick and Amy did it for
a couple of years, instituting the online chats, the "Clarion"
critique format, and the regular rules for participation.  Then Nick
retired, and she recruited Hamilton MacAlester (HamilMac), and they
recruited Craig Tambo (CWilliamT).  Amy handed the SFWW over to them,
and they recruited Elizabeth Hardage [hostwrtersfww@...] and
Anneliese Fox [hostwrtracmfox@...], which led to the system
today.  Hamilton MacAlester [sfwwmoder@...] is the Advisor and
Web Site Administrator.

Members send a story to the group and revise it based on the comments
they've received.  They either 1) send it out or 2) send us the
second draft for comments.

Several current and former members have been published, in both pro
and semi-pro publications. They encourage members to share that
information with the group. If you'd like more details on who
Elizabeth knows who's been published, she can provide it.

e-mail HOSTWRTRAcmfox@... or HOSTWRTRSFWW@... and let them
know if you want to join.

To remain an active member of the group, you must submit at least two
critiques a month, out of a possible four or five.  They send out a
new submission every Monday. Before you can request a critique date,
you must have completed at least four critiques of other's
submissions.

As to how many critiques you can expect to get on your sub -- that
varies depending on the time of year, the length of your sub, and how
rough (or polished) the piece is.  You can expect between five to ten
critiques, possibly more. Critiques drop off some during the winter
holidays, probably because everybody's so busy.

    Anybody who has Internet access should be able to access the
website at

     http://hometown.aol.com/sfwwmoder/index.htm

     AOL members can use this hyperlink: The Science Fiction Writers
Workshop

     Roughly half the current membership is NOT on AOL. They don't
seem to have trouble accessing the website or Internet chats. They
can't get into the monthly AOL (the second Monday) chats, but that's
about it.

You can visit their website at:

http://members.aol.com/sfwwmoder/

and take a good look at it to see if this is the kind of critique
group you're interested in joining.

#

Subj: Re: [SFWW] Article - does this final draft meet with your
approval? -Liz-
Date: 6/19/01 12:59:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From: HOST WRTR SFWW
To: ElizabethAEnsley, ASterling
CC: HOST WRTR acmfox


<<As an interesting sidelight, Paula Guran was a member in those
early days.  Others were giving her a "hard time" but I was 100% in
favor of her interest in horror writing and her creativity on the
Internet.  She saw a need for Internet resources and workshops for
horror writers, and went on to be the editor of the DarkEcho Horror
newsletter and various other horror publications -- two years ago, I
sat with her as she won the Stoker Award from the HWA for her work.
The SFWW has had several Clarion grads as members.  There is so much
overlap between the workshop and my classes, I'm not sure who has
been an SFWW member, but you might want to list a few of the
publications -- Allyn Hughes had a story in The Age of Reason
(SFF.NET anthology), Tonya Price appeared in two of the Star Trek:
Strange New Worlds books, Mike Meddor's fantasy story appeared in F &
SF, and others have won prizes in the Writers of the Future Contest.
Mark Rudolph has done fantastic things recently.

I am not well-organized about these things -- congratulating people
as they have their achievements -- but it might be a good idea to
make a list of past and present members and their publications or
awards.

With far fewer members, I think this group has had a lot more
published writers coming out of it than many far larger groups on the
Internet -- in ABSOLUTE numbers, not just percentage-wise.  I'm not
kidding.

> Amy :) >>

I asked her permission to quote the text.  What do you think?


Regards,

Elizabeth.

Liz,

I think that's a great idea. I also know that Mike Marsh has
published at least one story in an online publication, SpaceWays
Weekly, and that Greg Clifford has had essays published in
Themestream. I'm also getting two of my poems published in The
Magazine of Speculative Poetry, most likely Spring 2002.

Let me know if you need any other information.

Elizabeth

Alien Planet designer site.  It's in the Worldbuilding and yada yada
folder in the bookmarks section.  I thought it might be useful to
anyone perusing this library.


Regards,

Your Humble Moderator.

The Surrealist Complement Generator.  It's very funny!


Regards,

Your Humble Moderator.

I uploaded three files of writer's utility zip files, courtesy of a
friend in Texas:

  DearFrie.zip
  SF_ALPHA.zip
  sf-alphadawn.zip

SF_ALPHA unzips to itself and another file, called SF_KNIGHT.ZIP.
It's harmless enogh, but the zip file keeps unzipping into itself and
the SF-KNIGHT.ZIP.  So, unzipping the file again is an exercise in
futility.  I could have uploaded the SF-KNIGHT, but I thought the
twilight zone-esque property of the file itself was funny. ;-)


Regards,


Your Humble Moderator

Date:  5/18/01 10:24:44 AM Eastern Daylight Time
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I have started a database of fanfic writer's workshops and critique
groups, for anyone interested in finding a good one.

Regards,

Your Humble Moderator

I have started a database of writer's workshops and critique groups,
for anyone interested in finding a good one.

Regards,

Your Humble Moderator

ON-LINE WRITERS WORKSHOPS AND CRITIQUE GROUPS

by Elizabeth Anne Ensley

Here's a little about one of the larger and more famous on-line
writing workshops:

The Critters On-line Critique Group

     Critters, founded by Professor Andrew Burt, is an on-line
critique circle/workshop for serious SF/F/H writers, both published
and unpublished. Members submit a short story (or chapters and
outline) to a central email address. Management makes dozens of
manuscripts available each week for review by the 2000+ members.
Other members are expected to email their critiques back within a
week. Only those serious about giving, in addition to receiving,
critiques should apply. However, if you just want to critique,
they're perfectly happy with that, too; but you must do one critique
per week to have your own manuscript critiqued.

     For more information about Critters, check out www.critters.org
You will also find links to other sites, as well as useful
information, such as the Black Holes response time tracker that Prof.
Burt runs, or the `critfinder,' to find or announce local in-person
workshops. There is also a link to the Critter Captain's [Andrew
Burt's] personal website, so that you can find out who he is and why
he founded Critters.

How many of you feel that you are oversensitive of your
writing?  How many of you take any critique of your story that points
out one thing your reader has pointed out, that they perceive as a
problem, and take it as a personal assault on your dignity?
         A lot of writers are like that, at first.  Remember two, very
important things:

1.  The critique is for the story.  They are not making a deliberate
     attempt to insult you. They are doing their best to give you an
     honest opinion, of how they felt about your story.

2.  One, single, solitary critique is only that reader's opinion.
     You can take or leave their suggestion.  It is only a suggestion.

         Unless the person, deliberately and maliciously, goes out of
their way to insult you, it is only an opinion.  The opinion is that
of one reader.
         Ideally, your critique group should have three to five people
(though more would be nice, if you can handle the emotional strain).
Each person gives their opinion.  When three or more people perceive
the same thing as a problem, that part of your story bears closer
inspection.  But that's only my suggestion.


Regards,

Liz.

10 Commandments of Posting

This was posted to one of my groups.  I thought some fellow group
members might want to pass it on to their members:

THE 10 COMMANDMENTS OF E-MAIL
~ Thou shalt include a clear and specific subject line.
~ Thou shalt edit any quoted text down to the minimum thou needest.
~ Thou shalt read thine own message thrice before thou sendest it.
~ Thou shalt ponder how thy recipient might react to thy message.
~ Thou shalt check thy spelling and thy gramar. ~ Thou shalt not
   curse, flame, spam or USE ALL CAPS.
~ Thou shalt not forward any chain letter.
~ Thou shalt not use e-mail for any illegal or unethical purpose.
~ Thou shalt not rely on the privacy of e-mail, ESPECIALLY from work.
~ When in doubt, save thy message overnight and reread it in the
   light of dawn.

           And, here's the "Golden Rule" of E-Mail:

~ That which thou findest hateful to receive, Sendest thou not unto
   others!

8. CONTENT SUBMITTED OR MADE AVAILABLE FOR INCLUSION ON THE SERVICE

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available for inclusion on the Service. However, with respect to
Content you submit or make available for inclusion on publicly
accessible areas of the Service, you grant Yahoo the following world-
wide, royalty free and non-exclusive license(s), as applicable:

With respect to Content you submit or make available for inclusion on
publicly accessible areas of Yahoo! Clubs and Yahoo! Groups, the
license to use, distribute, reproduce, modify, adapt, publicly
perform and publicly display such Content on the Service solely for
the purposes of providing and promoting the specific Yahoo! Club or
Yahoo! Group to which such Content was submitted or made available.
This license exists only for as long as you elect to continue to
include such Content on the Service and will terminate at the time
you remove or Yahoo removes such Content from the Service.

With respect to photos, graphics, audio or video you submit or make
available for inclusion on publicly accessible area of the Service
other than Yahoo! Clubs or Yahoo! Groups, the license to use,
distribute, reproduce, modify, adapt, publicly perform and publicly
display such Content on the Service solely for the purpose for which
such Content was submitted or made available. This license exists
only for as long as you elect to continue to include such Content on
the Service and will terminate at the time you remove or Yahoo
removes such Content from the Service.

With respect to Content other than photos, graphics, audio or video
you submit or make available for inclusion on publicly accessible
areas of the Service other than Yahoo! Clubs or Yahoo! Groups, the
perpetual, irrevocable and fully sublicensable license to use,
distribute, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, publicly
perform and publicly display such Content (in whole or in part) and
to incorporate such Content into other works in any format or medium
now known or later developed.
"Publicly accessible" areas of the Service are those areas of the
Yahoo network of properties that are intended by Yahoo to be
available to the general public. By way of example, publicly
accessible areas of the Service would include Yahoo! Message Boards
and portions of Yahoo! Clubs and Yahoo! Groups that are open to both
members and visitors. However, publicly accessible areas of the
Service would not include portions of Yahoo! Clubs and Yahoo! Groups
that are limited to members, Yahoo services intended for private
communication such as Yahoo! Mail or Yahoo! Messenger, or areas off
of the Yahoo network of properties such as portions of World Wide Web
sites that are accessible through Yahoo! Webring but are not hosted
or served by Yahoo.

This isn't a writer's workshop or critique group.
Such links are welcome; this is a library, intended to
garner this information and share it with other people.
         Messages and files uploaded here are accessible
to the public.  I also invite people to join and share
their own files.  Public discussion is also welcome to
this site.  The key word here, of course, is open;
reviews of writer's tools and book are also welcome.


Regards,

Elizabeth Anne Ensley.