RE: Homophobia an international Islamist agenda not a sufi Pakistani "value"
Dear Aftab Kazi,
Please be clear that I did not preach
anything regarding sexuality. My detractors found my statements made in North America posted on the internet that I do not even
have knowledge of but they are my statements and I stand by them. Would you
suggest that we refrain from making any public statements in North America out
of cultural sensitivity for the Islamists in Pakistan. They are not “indigenous/
local” Pakistanis but members of the extremely well organized fascist
international Islamist movement that preaches hatred of Shia, of women, of
religious minorities and prohibits event the mention of sexual minorities.
I did invite my students to substantiate where their mis-information about Jews
and Christians came from. There was never any discussion or mention
of sexuality with my students. I was targeted because I did not tow the
line and show deference to the totalitarian views. Just before I left
what I was speaking out against was the proposed land mining of the border
between Pakistan and Afghanistan.
Interestingly enough that concern of mine for the lives of ordinary and
innocent women and children did not catch anyone’s attention.
As for local Pakistanis most of them are
quite “tolerant” of the inter-sex hijrahs and would be open to pondering
on the question as to they are not integrated into society instead of living on
its margins. They would also understand that love does not discriminate
on the basis of gender. Some of you may know of huge Mela Chiraghan in Lahore celebrated for a
whole week at the shrine of Lal Hussein who is buried next to his male lover. The
Urdu biographies of Lal Hussain that can be bought in Anarkali bazaar do not
shy away from mentioning his falling in love with the Hindu boy. So homophobia
in Pakistan
is part of the Islamist agenda while there is “rampant” homosexual
behavior. What is needed is an honest discourse that allows Pakistanis to
look reasonably at their experience and its ethical import, not this policing
of thought by the Islamists where one can do anything as long as one does not
challenge their monopoly to define what Islam is.
From:Writers_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Writers_Forum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Aftab Kazi Sent: Sunday, 4 February 2007 4:27
p.m. To:Writers_Forum@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Writers Forum] Dr Ghazala Anwar fired for pro-gay opinions
Dear friends,
I sympathize with Dr. Ghazala Anwar,
however, I also wish that she should have been sensitive to the operating
levels of the political and social culture. I suppose that she would also agree
with my position. We may be living abroad, but back home in Pakistan
is a different situation operating at very different levels of
sociopolitical culture, which despite international pressure, simply cannot be
resolved to our liberal desire, because such situations are cross-generational
and are bound to take many more years to be resolved. Obviously, the
International Islamic University and HEC in Islamabad were helpless to the demands of
the operating levels of sociopolitical cultural levels amid eveidence
through student protests against Dr. Ghazala's intellectual position on
sexual freedom. Given the geographical location of Pakistan
(Unfortunately, geographical loocationj is often discounted in social and
cultual relationship, despite its greatest influence) it may take years,
before before Pakistanis would open up to social as well as political
freedoms that Dr. Ghazala has tried to preach. Many friends seem to
describe democracy in GENERALIZED terms, when . legitimate democracy ought
o be juxtaposed against the operatig levels of the sociopolitical
culture. Even in United
States or EU, such culture took years to
develop. States like Pakistan
or Uzbekistan
or other developing countries need cross-generatioal years to reach the present
day socioplitical democracy that we are trying to impose on newly born
post-colonial countries, something which is absurd, because we cannot expect
newly borm to act like evolved societies within this democratic
ideology. The mesmerization of democratization appears to be
another ideological eutopia, which is not likely to succeed, until
societies themsleves grow up graduallu in an evolutionary manner. I
guess that Dr. Ghazala may have to waint to preach her ideas until the locally
operating sociopolitical culture is ready to listen and resipocrate to her
views.
I apologize to friends on Writers Forum, who may not agree with
me, but everything that I have said is my opinion.
Perhaps, I would also learn something new on the subject from the
constructive criticism, If constructively so, I will respond.
Otherwise I won't. I know that we at Writers Forum follow mutually respected
exchanges and I respect that.
With kind regards.
Aftab
Moid Alam
<moidalam@hotmail.com> wrote:
Munir sahab and Farzana sahiba
We should issue some statements for her support. therefore, her contract with
the commission had been cancelled.
“Due to unsatisfactory progress report received from the host
institution, her contract with the HEC has been terminated,” the
statement said.
The statement cited her inadequate expertise in Arabic as another reason for
her removal from service.According to her bio-data, Dr Ghazala did her PhD in
philosophy and religious studies from the Temple University (USA), with
teaching and research interests in Islamic jurisprudence, gender issues, Sufism
and sexuality. Before coming to Pakistan
she worked as a lecturer at the University of Canterbury (UC) in Christchurch, New Zealand.
It is learnt that some of her students and a section of the print media
recently criticised her for saying that homosexuality was a normal sexual
orientation.
According to FFHP rules, an institution prepares progress report after six
months of service, but in Dr Ghazala’s case the IIU assessed her
performance after three months. Besides, none of her degrees showed her
proficiency in Arabic language, but her expertise in the language has been
questioned by the university.
Talking to Dawn, an HEC official said on condition of anonymity that Dr
Ghazala, who has already left the country, had informed the commission that she
felt she was not safe at the IIU and, therefore, she should be posted to
institutions like the GIK or KarachiUniversity.
Dear Moid, Thanks for passing the info on to us. Regards, Farzana. Moid Alam <moidalam@...> wrote: Munir sahab and Farzana sahiba We should issue some...
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