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Dr Ghazala Anwar fired for pro-gay opinions   Message List  
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RE: Homophobia an international Islamist agenda not a sufi Pakistani "value"

Dear Aftab Kazi,

 

Please be clear that I did not preach anything regarding sexuality.  My detractors found my statements made in North America posted on the internet that I do not even have knowledge of but they are my statements and I stand by them. Would you suggest that we refrain from making any public statements in North America out of cultural sensitivity for the Islamists in Pakistan.  They are not “indigenous/ local” Pakistanis but members of the extremely well organized fascist international Islamist movement that preaches hatred of Shia, of women, of religious minorities and prohibits event the mention of sexual minorities.  I did invite my students to substantiate where their mis-information about Jews and Christians came from.   There was never any discussion or mention of sexuality with my students.  I was targeted because I did not tow the line and show deference to the totalitarian views.  Just before I left what I was speaking out against was the proposed land mining of the border between Pakistan and Afghanistan.  Interestingly enough that concern of mine for the lives of ordinary and innocent women and children did not catch anyone’s attention. 

 

As for local Pakistanis most of them are quite “tolerant” of the inter-sex hijrahs and would be open to pondering on the question as to they are not integrated into society instead of living on its margins.  They would also understand that love does not discriminate on the basis of gender.  Some of you may know of huge Mela Chiraghan in Lahore celebrated for a whole week at the shrine of Lal Hussein who is buried next to his male lover.  The Urdu biographies of Lal Hussain that can be bought in Anarkali bazaar do not shy away from mentioning his falling in love with the Hindu boy.  So homophobia in Pakistan is part of the Islamist agenda while there is “rampant” homosexual behavior.  What is needed is an honest discourse that allows Pakistanis to look reasonably at their experience and its ethical import, not this policing of thought by the Islamists where one can do anything as long as one does not challenge their monopoly to define what Islam is.

 


From: Writers_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Writers_Forum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Aftab Kazi
Sent: Sunday, 4 February 2007 4:27 p.m.
To: Writers_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Writers Forum] Dr Ghazala Anwar fired for pro-gay opinions

 

Dear friends,

 

I sympathize with Dr. Ghazala Anwar, however, I also wish that she should have been sensitive to the operating levels of the political and social culture. I suppose that she would also agree with my position. We may be living abroad, but back home in Pakistan is a  different situation operating at very different levels of sociopolitical culture, which despite international pressure, simply cannot be resolved to our liberal desire, because such situations are cross-generational and are bound to take many more years to be resolved. Obviously, the International Islamic University and HEC in Islamabad were helpless to the demands of the operating levels of sociopolitical cultural levels amid eveidence through student protests against Dr. Ghazala's intellectual position on sexual freedom. Given the geographical location of Pakistan (Unfortunately, geographical loocationj is often discounted in social and cultual relationship, despite its greatest influence) it may take years, before before Pakistanis would open up to social as well as political freedoms that Dr. Ghazala has tried to preach.  Many friends seem to describe democracy in GENERALIZED terms, when . legitimate democracy ought o be juxtaposed against the operatig levels of the sociopolitical culture.  Even in United States or EU, such culture took years to develop. States like Pakistan or Uzbekistan or other developing countries need cross-generatioal years to reach the present day socioplitical democracy that we are trying to impose on newly born post-colonial countries, something which is absurd, because we cannot expect newly borm to act like evolved societies within this democratic ideology.  The mesmerization of democratization appears to be another ideological eutopia, which is not likely to succeed, until societies themsleves grow up graduallu in an evolutionary manner.  I guess that Dr. Ghazala may have to waint to preach her ideas until the locally operating sociopolitical culture is ready to listen and resipocrate to her views.  

 

I apologize to friends on Writers Forum, who may not agree with me, but everything that I have said is my opinion.  Perhaps, I would also  learn something new on the subject from the constructive criticism, If constructively so, I will respond. Otherwise I won't. I know that we at Writers Forum follow mutually respected exchanges and I respect that.

 

With kind regards.

 

Aftab

 


Moid Alam <moidalam@hotmail.com> wrote:

 
Munir sahab and Farzana sahiba
 
We should issue some statements for her support. therefore, her contract with the commission had been cancelled.

“Due to unsatisfactory progress report received from the host institution, her contract with the HEC has been terminated,” the statement said.

The statement cited her inadequate expertise in Arabic as another reason for her removal from service.According to her bio-data, Dr Ghazala did her PhD in philosophy and religious studies from the Temple University (USA), with teaching and research interests in Islamic jurisprudence, gender issues, Sufism and sexuality. Before coming to Pakistan she worked as a lecturer at the University of Canterbury (UC) in Christchurch, New Zealand.

It is learnt that some of her students and a section of the print media recently criticised her for saying that homosexuality was a normal sexual orientation.

According to FFHP rules, an institution prepares progress report after six months of service, but in Dr Ghazala’s case the IIU assessed her performance after three months. Besides, none of her degrees showed her proficiency in Arabic language, but her expertise in the language has been questioned by the university.

Talking to Dawn, an HEC official said on condition of anonymity that Dr Ghazala, who has already left the country, had informed the commission that she felt she was not safe at the IIU and, therefore, she should be posted to institutions like the GIK or Karachi University.

 

Aftab Kazi,PhD 

"Free men maintain n possessions  nor ethnicity "  Poetry page URL: www.aftabkazi.com

 

 


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