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... PETER: Plenty. For starters, how do you calculate which goods and services to produce and in what quantities? If people would like more of both A and B,...
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Oct 1, 2004
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Robin: "A penniless person who is hungry has, according to the logic of the market, no "demand" for food.... The pricing mechanisms does not reflect this...
Mike Lepore
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Oct 2, 2004
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Robin: A penniless person who is hungry has, according to the logic of the market, no "demand" for food.... The pricing mechanisms does not reflect this...
Peter Kidson
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Oct 2, 2004
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Mike In my model [of socialism], individuals need to be limited in obtaining products based on their personal incomes, with those incomes determined both by...
Peter Kidson
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Oct 2, 2004
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... I don't recall that, but ... Under capitalism, people frequently don't buy what they "want." People survey the limited menu of what's currently available,...
Mike Lepore
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Oct 3, 2004
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... The "same end-result as capitalism" except for the long list of differences between capitalism and socialism :o) ... I support a system of individual...
Mike Lepore
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MIKE: Under capitalism, people frequently don't buy what they "want." => All systems will be like this. Since everyone may have their own specific...
Peter Kidson
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MIKE: Under capitalism, people frequently don't buy what they "want." => ... Furthermore people invariably want more than is possible. And that is the engine...
Peter Kidson
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Oct 3, 2004
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... That's true at the point of an individual going shopping, but the charter or premise of socialist industry (production directly for social use, instead of...
Mike Lepore
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Oct 4, 2004
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... Democratic election of industrial management, one person one vote, would do a better job than aristocratic election of management, one share one vote, in...
Mike Lepore
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Oct 4, 2004
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MIKE: In my model [of socialism], individuals need to be limited in obtaining products based on their personal incomes, with those incomes determined both...
Peter Kidson
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Oct 4, 2004
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... McD: This is complete hubris. Read _Political Parties (1911)Robert Michels on democracy. Another book to read in _The Pure Theory of Democracy (1918) W.H. ...
David McDonagh
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Oct 4, 2004
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Robin: A penniless person who is hungry has, according to the logic of the market, no "demand" for food.... The pricing mechanisms does not reflect this...
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Oct 5, 2004
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McD: Moreover, democracy is government. ipso facto. That is a very plain fact that many on the WSM list want to overlook. ROBIN: depends what you mean by...
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Oct 5, 2004
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... CJ: Democracy is government ipso Oceana....
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Oct 5, 2004
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Peter ... If you found yourself in a world where the industries were operated nonprofit, and your income was X number of labor time vouchers, I'm sure, when...
Mike Lepore
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Oct 6, 2004
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Peter K. ... You're confusing an action itself with one possible motivation for the action. Profit is the business's motivation. The action then taken is to...
Mike Lepore
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Oct 6, 2004
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<mcdonagh10@y...> wrote: [Lepore] ... Nice thing about democracy -- we don't have to go to all those boring committee meetings. We can elect delegates to...
Mike Lepore
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Robin: A penniless person who is hungry has, according to the logic of the market, no "demand" for food.... The pricing mechanisms does not reflect this...
Peter Kidson
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Oct 6, 2004
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... McD: There is not much nice about democracy, Mike. You may well get to realise that if you continue to think about it. I was an enthusiastic democrat when...
David McDonagh
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... McD: No, motivation is not even germane to the point he made. The eca is very distinct from the argument relating to incentives, but the SPGBers do not do...
David McDonagh
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... McD: Maybe, but there is not likely to be ever such a world. It lacks an economic theory. ... Access ... McD: Do you think labour hours stand a chance...
David McDonagh
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Oct 6, 2004
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... McD: Yes, he has no demand. Robin's idea of no economic system canot correct that set up but it can be coreected on the market if he gets a job. ... McD:...
David McDonagh
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... McD: I do not think so but that is not to rule out some semantics. I think any idea of democracy will mean coercive government. But we can see if semantics...
David McDonagh
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... Adjectival "democracy" notwithstanding, electing rulers is the aristocratic side of a polity. ... The enthusiastic oligarch is someone who has yet to...
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Oct 6, 2004
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... Paine argued for the Republic and representation. Burke argued for arbitrary rule. CJ ... Democracy has existed in the Gray League far longer than the...
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Oct 6, 2004
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... Incorrect. Socialism/communism is an economic system which economises by differentiating between and acting upon factors on the basis of their relative...
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Oct 7, 2004
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Anyone from the WiC list is welcome to come to any LA meeting. We meet for the last time this year at the Plough but there will be meetings at the London...
David McDonagh
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Oct 7, 2004
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... McD: Nope, it is not incorrect, Robin. You have yet to comprehend the economic problem. You see it as a sham. ... McD: False. It is a wishing away meme...
David McDonagh
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... McD: I think that is not really apt, CJ. Burke argued for a division of labour qwhere politicians were experts ready to serve the public in the way that we...
David McDonagh
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