David searles wrote:.......... ... David, I for one, dont think what you are saying is in the least 'crazy'. It is similar to my own original thoughts, to-wit,...
In a message dated 30/09/07 19:29:36 GMT Daylight Time, erm4you@... ... McD: No. . ... McD: I think there usually is a disutility of labour but it does...
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Well thanks for the vote of support. I am not at all synincal about "politicians" I don't think that politicians cause the basic problem at all. If they...
... The remedy is to end the privilege to capital which is brought about because of the instability of the free market as price is driven to cost (no profits)...
Bill green wrote: No Bill. It is not instability that drives process to the exchange value level of a commodity. Supply and demand makes prices swing back and...
dave very quickly wrote: that drives process to the exchange value level of a commodity when he should have written: that drives prices to the exchange value...
Dave Searles wrote:........... ... Dave, Since you are "not at all cynical about politicians" behaviour, then it is best for me to now withdraw from this...
I think the point that Dave was making was that it does not matter what the calibre or character of politicians may; it makes no significant material...
Ray wrote: It seems to me undoubted, that it is because those such as politicians thus attain personal wealth, money, personal power, or gold-plated pensions...
Robin wrote: To be cynical about politicans implies the suggestion that what is faulty is their motives and that all would be hunky dory if their motives were...
Robbo wrote............ 1a. proposed amendment to US Constitution ... Robbo, I find it hard to believe that you could seriously say such a thing. You agree...
... matter ... lives ... thing. ... signifigance ... this to be so ... politicians. ... have "made no ... in ... grounds that it was ... actually ... power and...
But Robin, don't you see the difference? See how different things would have been for the workers if The Mahatma was able to take over the Fuhrers body during...
Robin: You might recall that Ray was the one who prattled on about the SPGB wanting to repress its membership. You explained to him that during your days...
Robbo wrote.............. ... Robbo, Firstly, it is ME that rejects the "great man" theory......... not you! Also, you cannot use the word SIGNIFICANTLY as a...
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Ray quoted Robin: "...it does not matter what the calibre or character of politicians may [be]; it makes no significant material difference to the outcome as...
Dave Searles says................ ... No, Dave, I "demand" nothing. You are thus proven to be unreliable before we even start!. Nevertheless, lets perservere...
Ray quoted Robin: "...it does not matter what the calibre or character of politicians may [be]; it makes no significant material difference to the outcome as...
... far ... historical ... role ... this ... you! Evidently not because you reject my view that the calibre and character of politicians makles no significant...
Dave Searles wrote........ ... Dave, I'm making a perhaps premature comment about this above particular quote of yours just for now (more later, I'm sure) but,...
... workers to comply. ... production ... met by the ... Police/Army ... always has done, ... This is clearly and unequivocally the great man theory. It is ...
Ray wrote: That is simply the way this society works in practical reality, always has done, still does, and is set to continue. Dave writes: And this is why...
Robin: Bingo! You struck the nail on the head! The Great Man theory is a necessity in the classical sense of paranoia, for one cannot maintain being plotted...
don't normally post on here, as not educated enuf, and i ain't been following this debate. But i agree that the power of politicians does not just come out of ...
Byron wrote:.......... ... Byron, So, all you again offer is yet more of your made-up 'quotes' in respect of my "prattling" - which I never actually voiced -...
Robbo writes.... ... Oh, is it, Robbo? What does that mean, exactly, then? The same "great man" theory which you claim that you are admirably suited to hold...