... ============================================ Robbo, So, you admit your belief that there should be elites - even at branch level- who are to be endowed...
= ... branch level- who are to be ... mere membership of what ... No I dont admit anything of the sort. Sceening applicants for membership is NOT elitist. You...
Ray: As mentioned before, any group has the right and privilege of making its own rules of membership. If they didn't, any group could be destroyed by its...
The customary terminology misrepresents these things entirely. The philosophy commonly called individualism is a philosophy of social cooperation and the...
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May 9, 2007 12:28 am
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The Folly of Collectivism By Ludwig von Mises a.. Introduction b.. Praxeology and Liberalism a.. Liberalism and Religion b.. Notes According to the doctrines...
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May 9, 2007 12:28 am
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... Byron, I dont know what you mean by ........ "as mentioned before".. and so, can't comment here. You are almost correct in saying that any group has a...
... Yes, you do, Robbo. Although you attempt to mask it, elitism includes when one minority group imposes it's will. That is no more 'waffle' than is your...
Ray: We have had this discussion in the last year which explains my "as mentioned before." Anyone who agrees with the principles of either WIC, or for that...
Ray: I forgot to mention one additional important point, namely that socialist parties are NOT socialist societies. As noted, socialism has never existed. If...
... means ... in ... you ... but ... party. ... includes when one ... This is utter tripe. "Minority group" in relation to what? The applicant? Because this...
Ray: "I'd vest exclusionary power within a group vote." ME: Wonderful. That's exactly what we do! But in your world you first admit anybody that wants to...
It seems this exchange with Rays1 is giving rise to comment in SPOPEN (internal forum of the SPGB): Such as ... I don't think any of it deserves a reply. I'm...
Robin and Arminius: Let me suggest if a view refers to something that is on a different forum or other venue; perhaps it shouldn't be removed from the list...
Byron wrote.............. ... Byron, No, that isn't, "exactly what you do". If it is, then simply answer the original and relevant question which was and...
As usual Ray can't see the forest for the trees! The 500 "bogey men" are an example Ray, that shows the paucity of your reasoning. Using your own words...
... The only thing you have "demonstrated" Byron, is the paucity of your fear about, '500 boogey-men' - whom you clearly, believe to be hell bent upon...
Ray: So you are actually telling us that the enemies of socialism would be gentlemanly enough not to WANT to scuttle a socialist organization? You are not...
The Socialist Standard SPGB May 2007 ... capitalism ... does ... McD: No, the anarcho-liberals are right to see that the state has nothing to do with the...
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May 27, 2007 8:27 pm
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Interesting article from the libcom site http://libcom.org/thought/anarcho-primitivism-anti-civilisation- criticism Robin ...
In a message dated 01/06/07 18:16:21 GMT Daylight Time, ... McD: Yes, maybe the basic concept of economics is opportunity cost that is free of money but simply...
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Jun 2, 2007 1:12 am
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We meet now on the second Monday of the month, at 7pm. Our meeting place is the London Center College, Pride Court (Unit 1), third floor, 80/82 White Lion...
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Jun 3, 2007 10:52 am
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Hi all Here's something that may be of interest to some on this list - its about the freecycle network http://www.freecycle.org/ Cheers Robin THE COUNTER: ...
Economics is not liberalism, despite all the major liberals being economists. Economics claims to be value free or positive economics that just looks at the...
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Jun 4, 2007 10:30 pm
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Byron wrote................. ... Byron, No, I am not, "actually telling you" any such thing - as you well know!. I simply asked you a question which I believe,...
McD wrote.......... 1. Re: Liberalism & War Posted by: "McD1st@..." McD1st@... Date: Sun May 27, 2007 1:27 pm ((PDT)) McD: No, the anarcho-liberals are...
Ray: As you may well know the CPUSA example had nothing to do with my support of the CP which was always the mouthpiece of the Soviet Union. It was an example...
... RAYS1: I remind you - again - that my question was, and remains.......... ... but, you know as well as I do ... by simply asking you to ... group? Did...
Robin: By now, those of us that have read Ray's posts the past year know that they show a fear of any organization. He constantly refers to elites that are...
The State is a Predator By David Gordon Review of The Rise and Fall of Society. By Frank Chodorov. New York: Devin-Adair, 1959. Xxiv + 168 pgs. Frank...
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Jun 6, 2007 11:47 pm
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