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Interpretation of The Eagle and the Lion dream
Various
Sep 19, 2002
Sep 17,2002
Dear List,
Last week I asked the Storm-Harvest List community to please pray and contribute towards the interpretation of Brian Grewal’s "The Eagle of Vengeance" dream.
I am happy to report that I am absolutely overwhelmed by the responses.
I received more than fifty replies. Among those who have written are many of our friends whom Robert Holmes and I can put faces to. Robert will be traveling extensively over the next few months, and today Robert happens to be at home and I spent some time chatting with him. We would like to say a big ‘hello’ to all our friends out there: you are loved and fondly remembered. We also want to express our gratitude to all the others who have taken the time to write and whom we have yet to meet. Your contributions are appreciated. Thank you.
About the dream: Robert and I feel that a soaring eagle with outspread wings represents a prophet functioning with anointing. The rabbit represents a Christian or ministry that the prophet intends to misuse or exploit as meat. The wounded rabbit runs to hide under the Rock (Christ). The Lord later appears as the Lion of Judah to discipline His servant (mauled off one wing). It is a prophetic variation to Ezek chapter 34.
I include below a selection of other versions of interpretation of the dream. Although there is only one God we sometimes seem to hear differently. And God may intend to have more than one valid interpretation. God’s way certainly is higher than ours.
May the Lord bless you.
Mario Liu
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From: "Brian & Angela Grewal" briangela@...> Date sent: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 21:08:00 +1000
I believe the Lord is giving a graphic picture of what will happen if the USA attacks the nation of Iraq! The eagle speaks of America, the rabbit of Saddam Hussein.
The breaking of the eagles feet? To me this is referring to the inability of the United States to foresee the eventual fallout. In this dream, the eagle was wounded, but instead of waiting to be healed, it allowed vengeance to be its guide.
The tragic events of (9/11) ought to have been a profound wake up call to the heart of the nation. Without repentance and humility, the Lord will allow the eagle to be brought down.
The group of rocks are the surrounding Arab nations to which Saddam and Iraq will run. The initial attacks will stir up these nations and the rabbit will become the lion.
The significance of the lion tearing off the right wing? It will be a slap in the face for those who believe that God will defend you for who you are politically and morally, regardless of what you've become.
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From: judahl@... (Lisa Dean) Date sent: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 18:28:52 -0500 (CDT)
It seems to me the eagle represents America going to war. The rabbit(terrorist) appeared to be an easy prey but in reality it was bait, and ran to its stronghold in the rocks. The eagle was so intent on the chase, it did not look up to see the danger it was in. It broke its feet, or the ability to wage war and defend itself(military) on the stronghold. Still it did not learn from its mistake-it was too full of emotion to think clearly. It returned to go after the rabbit which emerged as the true nature it had--the lion. The eagle had only its strength and its beak--the media, speaking forth--to attack the lion.The lion, or king, the spirit behind the terrorist organization, only needed one strike to bring the bird down, even though it was injured and bleeding. It ripped the right wing off--the right wing of American government--the conservative, Christian side-the party of President Bush. However, it did not finish the kill. I believe that was the mercy of God allowing the eagle to live though unable to fly and gravely injured. Thanks. Lisa Dean
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From: "Rich Elliott" wahoo@...> Date sent: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 13:19:02 -0500
It is interesting that this message has a practical application in my own life at this time. Let me relate it to you.
I see a couple things … God is calling for close partnership, for a covenant relationship to be modeled between foundational ministers at this time. Particularly between the embryonic apostolic and prophetic gifts He is growing up. The Lord has been emphasizing this to me for some time, but attempts to see this come about are few and far between. Recently a good friend has broken off relationship due to some non-sense opinions. This prophet friend had expressed both the need and the existence of covenant in our relationship. I valued this relationship and supported her in every way. Still, a non-essential, a variable of no consequence [at least to me] was what caused this person to break off association and our long-standing friendship. Accusations began to flow from her, rather than trying to understand. Then, it seemed everything she said and did was to defend her position in the whole matter. She said she received counsel, but I never heard from any of these people. Nobody cared to hear the whole story. I have been and continue to be shocked. Recently, this has become more troublesome. Now, it appears this person not only wants to break off relationship, but is trying to hurt me, my reputation, and the ministry by making unfounded accusations. It is really sad.
However, what I see in this dream, is how this prophet is going for some kind of vengeance, even trying to kill or destroy me. The eagle, often symbolic of the prophetic, and the rabbit/wild game symbolic of doing God’s Word and work, are really clear on this personal level. I see how it is a matter of protection to stop the attack, but it is not in my heart to do that. I would prefer to see some kind of reconciliation occur, but that is not an option with this prophet friend. We should be getting along, but it appears there is only one solution and that is to turn this over to the Lord, who I know will rise up as the Lion of the Tribe of Judah and put an end to the attack. God help us.
I don’t know if this makes any sense, but hope it does. Apostles and prophets need to get along. We have got to grow up and part of the growing up will involve relationships of trust characterized by commitment to one another. Definitely we should not be attacking one another. Yet on a personal level, I have seen that happen a lot in the Body of Christ. More than I can even hope to explain. I pray the eagle will get its eyes off of vengeance and onto Jesus.
This isn’t an interpretation of the dream, but I can see how this is playing out before me, in my own life and ministry. Perhaps others will be able to articulate the meaning of it in more detail.
Keep radically following Jesus!!
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Date sent: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 09:29:11 -0400 From: Peggy Bridges greatprophecies@...>
This is what I heard while reading the dream...
I felt the dream was more a communication the Lord was trying to give to Brian. I felt it was for Brian to intercede in prayer for the events he was seeing in his dream...the eagle and the lion represented people or ministries or even a relationship that was under attack. I believe Brian will know exactly who the eagle represented and who the lion represented...the lion appeared to look like a rabbit at first, which I believe was a Christian moving in his own strength, but then when it appeared like a lion, he had decreased in his strength and allowed Christ to become strong in him.
God did provide a "hiding place" and yes there was a wound to the back...which I believe represented a very deep wound this person has received from the attacking person...the eagle was partially disabled, but it's intent was to attack again....this is what I believe the dream was for....to pray for the defeat of this next attack and to "bind up" this spirit that wants to kill and destroy.
God Bless
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From: "The Stubbs" astubbs@...> Date sent: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 07:20:17 -0400
Consider this, as I asked and sought an answer to your dream, the Lord asked me to imagine the Eagle as the Church and the Rabbit as a Prophet, the Church is so hungry for a word from God that it has broken its feet and has nowhere , noway to stand, yet the Church enraged at the prophet, has a little road rage, and as the Church comes in for the kill, the rabbit/prophet reveals his true identity, Jesus, the Lion of Judah. That's it, sorry its a bit basic. I asked why the right wing, and I felt that with one wing we don't go anywhere, and any flight would be in a clockwise direction in circles, don't understand, soon, the King is coming soon. Your friend and brother Andrew.
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From: "TerrySuttles" t.suttles@...> Date sent: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 21:51:34 -0400
I would not be to quick to identify the eagle with the USA since Saddam too has as his symbol the eagle. The eagle is often displayed in the background of pictures of Saddam. The obvious is often not the true message. The eagle was the symbol of both Rome and the Third Reich.
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From: "We Vines" speak_it_4th@...> Date sent: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 10:11:11 -0500
Two things immediately struck me about this dream: 1) Although many may feel (and rightly so?) the eagle symbolizes the U.S., I share the following: The "eagle" is a symbol used by Iraq of their country. When you see video's of Hussein speaking formally, you will notice an eagle symbol behind him. 2) The "lion" is a symbol of Israel, and on the Jerusalem flag. Dual interpretation: Physically, I believe Iraq is intend upon trying to attack Israel. It will appear as though Israel is incapable of defending itself. First Israel will wait, and duck attempt to entrap her. Iraq will be stunned at the wisdom used to avoid entrapment, then, will go after Israel full force. But before they can fully touch Israel, she will, with the help of G-d, give Iraq a blow from which the country cannot fully recover. Spiritually, I believe the forces of strongholds in the spirit will be battling as well. Yet, it will be the Lion of the Tribe of Judah who will roar and silence all the evil rhetoric of the spiritual enemies of Israel, and of G-d.
Could it also be the U.S. will underestimate the need we have for Israel and will sell her out? Which will remove totally the hand of protection of G-d upon the U.S., our ecomomy will plummet further, and we will be impotent ourselves in the end because we cursed Israel instead of blessed her? This, too, is a possibility. But I feel strongly this will have to do with Iraq and Israel. Prayerfully, Delta Vines
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From: "Ueli Surbeck" USurbeck@...> Date sent: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 18:35:35 +0200
This looks very much like the relationship between the prophets and the coming apostles! Both need a heart circumcision to work together and this maybe the way it is going to happen.
Shalom
Ueli Surbeck, Nyon, Switzerland
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From: "adeptess" adeptess@...> Date sent: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 08:42:03 +0800
I really believe the rabbit/lion is ISRAEL. I had this really weird dream the other night myself. The whole thing was about me reading a date. October 23. That was it. Just the date.
Deborah
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Date sent: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 23:25:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Cindy Allen harpplayer2000@...>
When I read this, I thought of Matt 24:28 - For wheresoever the carcass is, there will the eagles be gathered together. Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
This reference to the eagle is in contrast to Isaiah 40:31 - but those who hope in the Lord will renew their strength. They will soar on wings like eagles; they will run and not grow weary, they will walk and not be faint.
I think about the order of creation and how God created man to have dominion over the earth which includes the animal kingdom as well and this scripture comes to mind: Rom 1:23-24 23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. 24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
I see the eagle who flies the airways in God's Kingdom as the Apostle who gives his testimony, knowledge and revelation of Jesus to the very least so that they may rise up to soar in the same heights. The motives of an Apostle's heart will cause him to pour himself out when his eagle's eye discerns a need. When a true Apostle sees a weakness, he strengthens. When he sees a wound, he binds it up. He is able to meet needs with provision.
The eagle who traded truth for lie must prey on the weak to feed the hunger of his own flesh. He rose to the heights dominating others without ever conquering the lusts of his own flesh. His authority only reaches the limits of flesh.
When the small abased rabbit received the revelation of transformation, the least became the greatest. Fear transformed into courage and strength and the rabbit exceeded the heights of flesh and through faith became a lion. The rabbit received revelation of who he was in Christ.
Blessings
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From: "Judith Carson" genesisfactor@...> Date sent: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 02:57:44 -0700
I often have very clear and direct interpretations of dreams/visions. However, this one could have individual application, as well as a larger application. So, I will choose the larger application, for your consideration.
One thing that is clear to me, is that seeing the eagle in the same pursuit twice, indicates this is established in the Kingdom of God. The first occurance being a vision, is established "in the Heavens". The second occurance being a dream, is "in the Earth." The first occurance, being in the Heavens, is higher than the second one; therefore, it takes precedence over the second one.
The first occurance (vision) does not show the injury of the prey or eagle, while the second one (dream) does. This means we have the option of "changing" the outcome of this revelation. The only thing that is set at this point, is the eagle's (natural) obsession with its prey.
Now, on to one of it's possible applications: The eagle is the United States, intent on (destroying terrorism/going to war with Iraq). The rocks are The Rock - our Lord, and the rabbit once torn, becomes the Lion of Judah, who brings forth judgement on the United States, because the U.S. has forgotten to look to The Creator of all things for guidance, in it's pursuit of "justice".
But, the Father has a better way, if we will but seek His will and purpose for this situation. We do not have to stand by; we can avert this desolation through intercession, through the prayer of faith, once we know His will. We must be willing to stand fast in His will and in His path, continually seeing and confessing it, in the face of all opposition.
As I write, I see a second application. (I pray that the readers will seek the Lord, that they may have ears to hear.) I see the prophets who are so intent on calling forth judgement on this nation, to bring forth repentance from it's wickedness, flying smack dab into the Rock, and having both their feet broken, and then still not getting the message, flying straight into the Lion of Judah, and bringing the judgement they have been calling for on themselves, becoming vulnerable to the enemy, because they have been speaking from their own fear and frustration, and not from the throne and heart of God. Again, through prayer for these siblings, this disaster can still be averted, or at least softened.
The third one I see, is for any individual of like obsession, who is praying out of his own heart. May he repent, before destruction comes upon him.
Judgement has come upon this nation; it will continue to come upon this nation. It has also entered into the House of the Lord. But Father does not mean this judgement for our destruction; He means it to expose the wickedness in high places, and in our hearts. He means to bring the affairs of men, the hearts of men, to His standard of righteousness, thus provoking "Satan's Last Stand", before He sets foot on this earth again.
So, enough said. May we look to Him, the Author and Finisher of our faith.
Shalom
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